All black supporter here,that was one hell of a game,both sides gave it their all 36 degree heat both teams left nothing on the field,hard fought win by the pumas,thank you to both sides for a amazing game.
High quality. As a saffa I'll say the argentina team have a great style. They so dangerous on attack they are brilliant almost like French flair . Awsome stuff. They have to come to us now and we will have a party for sure it makes this exciting
@@PietM749 looking to blame someone for a lose it would have been some way or another the ref or these to players let them comback to the franchise and you will see results
I really think Rassie isn't bothered to much, he gambled with captaincy and certain positions because he knows where he's going with the Boks, I can't see anything to cry about
@@Rugby-union-and-league nothing to cry about,SA never thought they will be undefeated,maybe you are just living in your own world of hatred and despising other people,I as a Saffa will not lose sleep over rugby,I hope the best for you,Rugby is clearly your God
Oh a level headed response. Sure to be unpopular but I agree. We have to gamble a bit to build depth. And boy was it close. But yes we need answers in some key positions. In all the boys didn't show up today for a full 80. Vengeance in Nelspruit
Rassie is right, it should not have come down to the kick. But it did. And he missed. And he should not have. No excuses, manie is done!! Moerat is done! Cobus is done. This press conference is such a good exampe. Almost no questions for moerat. No one cares what he thinks because no one rates him.
@@henkstols9326 his overall game not good enough. Makes lots of mistakes and takes stupid options. Also, he is at the end of his career, we need the next gen of players to play as much as possible to start having settled combinations at 9 & 10
@@Hugo-pj1eo yeah okay he is not as done as the other 2, but I still think we need to move on. He probably wont be at the next world cup so we need to give the younger players more chances
We started well, underestimated Argentina in the middle, and was out defended in the last 20min. Well played Argentina, well deserved they looked better than us.... no excuse better team won. But on the positive.... Makes next week very exciting!!!
Rassie made bad choices... Moerat is his biggest blunder. Followed by Libbok. Kicking duties shoild be removed from Libbok. He needs for Sacha or Handre to lead kicks if he is to survive being in team, but... Libbok seems to me to be a goner from here. BUT... Pollard also missed a sitter. So also needs to take blame like Manie. Malcolm Marx useless as starting hooker. Flat game from him and testimony to that Bongi needs to start always. We now see it clearly.
Polly’s kick wasn’t really a sitter out from the sideline… Mannie missed the penalty to the corner and the kick at goal… the touch line kick was much worse than the missed kick in my opinion
Rassie did not make bad choices, he knew what he was doing and got the answers ie that some players are not worth investing in. What he did was right, to keep players fresh back in SA. This will pay dividends next week. I'm more concerned that Pollard is not match fit and now has to fly back home and perform again next game because Manie is useless and Sacha is unavailable. We all knew Rassie's way of thinking when he selected this team, so should not be surprised.
The South Africa jersey is really too big for Libbok, he always fails in important moments (also in the Stormers). Moerat very slow and without attitude, they should give young Connor Evans a chance. PS: It's time to call Tyrone Green. 🇿🇦
Finally a home final for our boys and the fans we waited very long for this we are humbled ❤thank you Argentina you beat the IRB it's a long time coming
Yes, not many people seeing it like this. I made it clear that I wanted a home final last week - not a dead rubber game. Pumas will have to produce magic to avoid the Boks from winning the cup - but that would make it so much more special if they did produce magic!!!
Libbok is a liability, Moerat useless and I don't see any leadership in him. Lukhanyo missing tackles, Mapimpi useless in defense and one dimensional in attack. A sh*t game all around.
Couldn't agree more... also, replacement scrummi also had a shocker...but that Pumas attack was brutal. They zip through our centres and wings like fokol.
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦it is what it is … well done too Argentina 🇦🇷 ! Massive mistakes was made and an unfortunate miss Kick by Mane on the end .. but don’t forget we are the champions! - Brush this game off and come back stronger! Next week 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪🏻💪🏻🔥 GO BOKKE!
Bok fan, congrats to los pumas. Enjoy the celebrations tonight. I wouldn’t be mad if Argentina wins the RC. They have been the team to have played consistently well this tournament, putting all the traditional rugby heavy weights to the sword. It’s not a bad thing for the Boks and fans alike to be humbled. The pumas better bring their A game next week or else they may face a severe Bok backlash. May the best team win 🏆
I'm not an expert Rassie tried something but the players let him down. Time to admit you failed Rassie drop the vrot appels they are not too bad but not fit for this level send them back to their respective provinces they must start all over. Moenie gatkruip nie hulle doen dit in die politiek jy hoef dit nie in sport te doen nie.
@@japiesas6517that's why he doesn't adhere to policy given to him by previous Minister. I urge him to try anything funny,you long for an all white team,you can't stand the fact that non-whites are possibly the best in the world.
Im a Springbok Fan . Its good that Bokke lost so that we can know our weaknesses. Winning every game we blind us into thinking that we are perfect even though there things to fix in our game
I really hope so.. He is pathetic... Can't handle any pressure... If rassie hasn't figured out by now that libbok is not springbok material, he never will...
If we're going back to favourites or politics, we are doomed. There is so much talent, why stick with someone who has proven his dismal failures to place kick. Just look at the accuracy of out other flyhalves and other teams. Even the womens teams kick better. That is a fact!
In the second half Boks reverted to their endless kick and chase for attack strategy. Then in the last 5 minutes tried to run in a try - much too late. Coaching staff need to take the responsibility for this loss.
Why, with ten minutes to play, did Hendrikse and Libbok kick away so much possession, giving Argi the edge, I will never know. It has become very evident, that Libbok has to go, everyone but Rassie can see that it seems. The truth is, Handre should be kept on the field for 80 minutes, we have seen that time and time again.
Because the kicking game is how we win. Manie's tactical kicking was fantastic(his missed two misses on the penalties were costly, but his ball in hand was good). They put Argentina on the back foot, forced errors and knock ons with a slippery ball. After 6 plus years of Rassie as coach surely by now you have figured out why we kick?..
@@ProfreegolferPlease read what I said, again, with reference to the "LAST TEN MINUTES". The kicking game you refer to effectively lost the Boks the game in the space of ten minutes, when they could have and should have retained possession of the ball. The kicking undertaken handed possession to the Pumas, who wrecked any chance of an effective end game by the Boks. I will say nothing of the poor choice and performance of the Bok Captain, I am still scratching my head.
@@myfairworld I did read like you should read now. It was the kicking game that set up the set pieces that allowed us to have the opportunity to win that game. That was mostly off of Manie's boot....
Jordan in manie out. Naas Botha always said you cant win test matches with a goal kicker that cant kick under pressure. If Nanie missed one or two a game here and there, its still ok, everyone miss goalkicks, but after his goalkicking in the worldcup and now again today under pressure. Pumas played well and they came back with a bang. But lets be real for a change at this level of rugby , in the best team in the world, you should be able to slot goal kicks over consistantly, not other way around.
And when i saw that number 3 of ours not even try to tackle the guy past the try line but instead just walk past as if he had already dived for the try just broke my spirit. I hope he gets punishment for that too
The ranking isn't the goal. Next week the Boks will be no 1 again and cup winners, more important still, is Rassie's planning and managing for the 2027 RWC progresses another several steps.
We were humble before and after the game, so dont know what you are on about, it's like we are not allowed to celebrate wins and be dissapointed with losses like other teams. At least we dont blame everyone else when we lose ❤ Compliments to the Los Pumas, they played with passion and determination.
0:30 Salmaan Moerat + Manie Libok cost us the game. Moerat is not a good enough player and not worthy of being captain - and the other players know it.
Well at least now we know who we don't want as captain and who we should sell to China as a flyhalf. Congratulations to Argentina. Being the one team that really showed growth over time since their participation in this competition.
Not one question for Moerat says alot and No Rassie even if we won(not all smiles)we did not always deserve to win. This reminds me of the pre-2018 days where we missed tackle upon tackle and kick upon kick, and it was always only tears. When we play crap and lift 2 world cups I really wanted us to prove our worth by being unbeaten for the whole test season so now we already lost twice and still have a whole end of year tour...France missed a few kicks so did the All blacks. We need to be much better we were not exceptional yet...I await patiently for the boks to shine❤❤❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦❤❤❤
OMG Yes! The Pumas finally beat and suffocated the RWC2023 Champions the Springboks! Now it's everyone's game now. Fair play to the Springboks for bringing the heat right to the 80 min, but just felt short. Also they should had given the goal kick to Handre Pollard, instead of Manie Libbok. The Pumas 100% deserve this win!
@@petes9524 Yes, because didn't Argentina came back from being 0-17 down...To then pressuring the Springboks to making silly errors to win by 29-28. They even pressured Springbok No.23 Manie Lebbok during the crucial last kick (which he luckley missed!)
@@ryansimms31 Unfortunately Manie Libbok has proven costly under pressure even in the world cup. They know he can't handle pressure and should never have put him in that position. Not fair to him either.
Bad performance all round. Ox had a great game though but that game looked done after we got a yellow card. Boys never came back after that. Hopefully next week we do better
Rassie Moert is not a captain material and weakens the team, and Manny Libok should not be the number 10 on the side. He can not kick straight. We should never have lost. Players should be picked on their performance. Stop feeling sorry for these weeak guys. 😢💔
Rassie Gambled beyond logic with some C - rated players in the squad which he has proven does not make the grade. There are man players in provincial teams ready to show what they can do!
Rassie it’s okay! We’ve got you! Boys we are right behind you and will always be! This is a tough one to swallow but this is big picture time 😊 Let’s stay strong!
Remember manie and moerat both did not have much game time,rassie is making them use to the international test and the pressure they are playing on hes giving them a feel so that when its world cup time there will be no stopping the bokke.Rassie this is a great strategie that you are using, you are playing with the minds of the whole world,Well played to you and keep them geussing our next step❤Lots of love to the whole squad.
Let's be honest yes yellow card helped them score tries but our defence didn't shift out when we were 14 down we where narrow in defence and players where slow.Rassie should say sorry to SA as we started so well we should have put the pedal down.Poor team picking that's why you have a bench to bleed in player not change 10 players
I don't agree. He has had more than enough time to get his act together. Either he spends his summer place kicking or he must be replaced. In my humble opinion, he does not have what it takes. A near miss means absolutely nothing. Sorry, he ain't the guy.
@@subbie5498 Manies, was right in front of the posts, poor kicking to the corner, and kicking possession away, absolutely useless effort from Manie today.
I remember quite vividly when Siya was handed the captaincy. In fact some till this day still think he is not captain material. Rassie is not under any pressure whatsoever to select Moerat let alone make him captain. He must have seen something in him. I just think people are way too emotional at times. This loss to Argentina may just be a blessing in disguise as it reminds us that there is work to be done if we're to retain the world cup for an unprecedented 3 times in a row.
The difference between NZ and SA is the knives are focused on their own team and their shortcomings as opposed to blaming everyone else for a loss. Also, it feels good to congratulate opposition for a win. Well done to Argentina Los Pumas.
Lineouts can’t function Rassie got some answers to questions regarding selection of players and the depth of this squad We need more depth in that forward pack and players can’t be getting too many chances Well deserved win for Argentina 🇦🇷
I agree with Rassie. It shouldn't have come down to just 1 point, but the Bokke was comprehensively outplayed, and Los Pumas deserved this victory. Congratulations Los Pumas. From 🇿🇦
Sanele Nohamba should the the answer to the questions whether they stay with Manie or not. His just in a different class player that are able to adopt to situations. Would be a great asset to the boks style of playing.
Moerat looking like a naughty schoolboy haha guys just not up to scratch right now, maybe needs more gametime post injury, but just doesnt look like the real deal at test level. Great club player though
It mutely was a given by some of us as supporter s that Pumas might knuckle us and win there;then in Nelspruit we smother them with our somewhat full compliment of World Cup okes.Pumas played skillful and deserved to win, so it's also good we loose to shake and shape niggles up for this week 💚🇿🇦💪🖐️
@@Rugby-union-and-leagueWhat nonsense are always talking. You need to put in new guys to see how they going to play. It's not the end if the world. Look how bad it is going for the All Blacks
@@elizehauptfleisch7542 The ABs played Rettalick and Whitelock relentlessly from 2011 to 2023 and now they are experiencing the consequences as Va'ai and Tuipoltou cant fill their boots. Same thing with England playing Youngs and Care relentlessly and then ending up in the 2019RWC final with Ben Spencer on only one or two caps. You have to build depth. I do wonder if Rassie actually threw Moerat in there to be able to justify relegating him down the pecking order - and justify bringing through new locks.
Rassie I hope u learned your lesson with Moerat!I do not see what you see in him but wake-up and please stop winning just!Win big or go home this 1 point difference is bullshut!Still love u but come on.
The Boks are so focused on attack now that they completely forgot to defend. The lack of defense made Argentina look much better than they actually were. I won't even talk about Manie....nothing can be said that hasn't been said several thousand times ~!
You don’t deserve it Ireland beat you again in your own back yard now team 6th in the world beat you, it’s the same old SA set out to dominate but fail to deceive.
Well done to Argentina... love the way they come to play.... The Doc has a plan and people forget that Siya also had a bumpy start ito results... always sad to see the true colors of RSA supporters... only out on sunny days....
Ag nee, these armchair generals calling for heads. Bok fans need to stop getting high on their own supply and realize they are peer competitors with a bunch of really good teams. So quick to tear your players apart. One point in it. Relax
No unbeaten teams in rugby championship is a good sign of competition! All Blacks were too dominant for far too long and good on them - But now it’s a level playing field and we’ll see the next team to rise and become dominant. All teams are on the right track and even Wallabies have shown that they ARE capable!😊
Not only for Manie but also for Moerat. Manie can't handle pressure. Moerat don't demonstrate leadership!
One loss and typical bokke, capt not Sringbok material?
@@GeorgeJames-o5yNot one test...not a test player He must play club rugby
"didn't" or "doesn't"
Agree Moerat has no leadership skills!sorry to say
Moerat isn’t good enough in every department to be a springbok lock. He’s a disgrace to the iconic number 4 jersey
All black supporter here,that was one hell of a game,both sides gave it their all 36 degree heat both teams left nothing on the field,hard fought win by the pumas,thank you to both sides for a amazing game.
As a Saffa it was disappointing to lose but great to watch, congratulations Argentina... Good side.
Well done los pumas.
Games are tight now.
Good for rugby
High quality. As a saffa I'll say the argentina team have a great style. They so dangerous on attack they are brilliant almost like French flair . Awsome stuff. They have to come to us now and we will have a party for sure it makes this exciting
Argentina is the only team that’s beaten all 3 teams in the Rugby Championship thus far.
Well if SA wins next week then SA can also say they beaten everyone in this competition
@@Ebendejongh1 correct, hence, “thus far”
Who know but in a week's time Argentina perhaps can also say they lost to every team in the competition.🤭😉😁😁
@@PietM749 yes, along with Australia. A lot on the line next week but will be hard for Argentina to back it up.
Have to give it to argentina tho , I'm from new zealand lol solid argentine too tuff 💯💪
Ox is the only one who stood out!
I agree... I loved him on the field. He had presence, movement, and soft hands. I'm really loving Ox play.
Nortje too, he played a blinder.
@@Balance-v8xNortje missed 4 tackles. He's no Sous.
@@xavierbrown4250 Nobody said he is Sous
And Mapimpi.
Libbok and Moerat not good enough for the team.
What did Moerat do wrong? Why don’t you immigrate to Australia like all you racers do?
@@PietM749 looking to blame someone for a lose it would have been some way or another the ref or these to players let them comback to the franchise and you will see results
Moerat is a mute captain. Hendrikse doesnt know how to protest guys not leaving the ruck. Mannie should never come near a Springbok jersey again.
There we go. All rainbows when’s we win the World Cup. And then as soon as we lose, it’s the ANC has destroyed the country.
I agree
In your dreams so keep on dreaming,hartseer naai
Soo true!
We played poorly. Having a captain with zero energy doesn’t help. Congrats to Argentina.
Useless captain,I agree
YOU played poorly?
@@Mo-yd8xcuse your brain, bud
I did not even know that Moerat was the captain, well they played rudderless,. I hope this was also the last time we saw Libbok
you didnt play poorly you were beaten by a better side on the day.
These tight results are good for the game. Good to know that any good team can win on their day.
I really think Rassie isn't bothered to much, he gambled with captaincy and certain positions because he knows where he's going with the Boks, I can't see anything to cry about
SA thought they could go through undefeated only the ABs have ever done that also Ireland are number 1 now i can see why saffas are crying.
@@Rugby-union-and-league nothing to cry about,SA never thought they will be undefeated,maybe you are just living in your own world of hatred and despising other people,I as a Saffa will not lose sleep over rugby,I hope the best for you,Rugby is clearly your God
Try WR no.2😂
Oh a level headed response. Sure to be unpopular but I agree. We have to gamble a bit to build depth. And boy was it close. But yes we need answers in some key positions. In all the boys didn't show up today for a full 80. Vengeance in Nelspruit
The Casino is there for gambling.
Moerat is not ready to be a Springbok, period
Moe was a Stooge.
Agreed!! Certainly can’t be captain!
Neither is libbok
@@chadtyersjy praat kak,julle moet net uit SA gemoer word. Ons soek nie julle verkrampte konte hier nie
Rassie is right, it should not have come down to the kick. But it did. And he missed. And he should not have. No excuses, manie is done!! Moerat is done! Cobus is done. This press conference is such a good exampe. Almost no questions for moerat. No one cares what he thinks because no one rates him.
I thought Cobus did ok, scored a crucial try.
Shut up eat humble pie
Cobus is not done
@@henkstols9326 his overall game not good enough. Makes lots of mistakes and takes stupid options. Also, he is at the end of his career, we need the next gen of players to play as much as possible to start having settled combinations at 9 & 10
@@Hugo-pj1eo yeah okay he is not as done as the other 2, but I still think we need to move on. He probably wont be at the next world cup so we need to give the younger players more chances
Argentinian brilliance! They wanted that win just a bit more!!! Like a warrior, Fantastic, respect.
I guess it's quite simple Moerat out as captain and from the team and Manie to be new water boy
We started well, underestimated Argentina in the middle, and was out defended in the last 20min. Well played Argentina, well deserved they looked better than us.... no excuse better team won. But on the positive.... Makes next week very exciting!!!
I live in NZ 2010 and I have always admire Rasyyy since 2019 WC his patience etc.
Rassie made bad choices... Moerat is his biggest blunder. Followed by Libbok. Kicking duties shoild be removed from Libbok. He needs for Sacha or Handre to lead kicks if he is to survive being in team, but... Libbok seems to me to be a goner from here. BUT... Pollard also missed a sitter. So also needs to take blame like Manie. Malcolm Marx useless as starting hooker. Flat game from him and testimony to that Bongi needs to start always. We now see it clearly.
Polly’s kick wasn’t really a sitter out from the sideline… Mannie missed the penalty to the corner and the kick at goal… the touch line kick was much worse than the missed kick in my opinion
Rassie did not make bad choices, he knew what he was doing and got the answers ie that some players are not worth investing in. What he did was right, to keep players fresh back in SA. This will pay dividends next week. I'm more concerned that Pollard is not match fit and now has to fly back home and perform again next game because Manie is useless and Sacha is unavailable. We all knew Rassie's way of thinking when he selected this team, so should not be surprised.
@@andy_oliveagreed, it changes the game at that point.
There are players out there , e.g. Mngomezulu , Nohamba who can be trained for 10 . Manie is out.
Difference is, had Pollard been the one to take the final kick we would have won...BMT is not something that Manie possess 🤷🏼♂️
All Blacks Fan who is a die hard Rassie Fan. Great coach and acts with humility win or lose.
Agree, He's a good man - from NZ
Incredible coach coming from a NZ fan
Well done Argentina played an awesome game, from Australia 🦘
RG and Mostert needs to come back, Salman doesn't deserve the bok jersey
The South Africa jersey is really too big for Libbok, he always fails in important moments (also in the Stormers). Moerat very slow and without attitude, they should give young Connor Evans a chance. PS: It's time to call Tyrone Green. 🇿🇦
Drop Salmat and libbock now. We have seen enough
Moerat shouldn’t be anywhere near a bok setup
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That will never happen so cry louder jou masepoes
Finally a home final for our boys and the fans we waited very long for this we are humbled ❤thank you Argentina you beat the IRB it's a long time coming
Yes, not many people seeing it like this. I made it clear that I wanted a home final last week - not a dead rubber game. Pumas will have to produce magic to avoid the Boks from winning the cup - but that would make it so much more special if they did produce magic!!!
How Moerat is Springbok Material, let alone bok captaincy Material??
To please Gayton Mackenzie is the only reason.
😂😂😂How when Moerat has been the Springbok captain since under 18 squad@@mapleridge466
Why us that guy captian. Absolutely not springbok material.
Why is he playing?
DEI
Geniet jou Kafferbokke!😂😂😂
@@1of4Thatsthescorejy moet vrek gemaak word jys 'n stuk kak wat nie hier hoort naai
Libbok is a liability, Moerat useless and I don't see any leadership in him. Lukhanyo missing tackles, Mapimpi useless in defense and one dimensional in attack. A sh*t game all around.
Couldn't agree more... also, replacement scrummi also had a shocker...but that Pumas attack was brutal. They zip through our centres and wings like fokol.
I see now that Mapimpi is less picked.
Blaming just the BLACK players for that kak performance? Ben Jason-Dixon sucked and Rassie took a stupid risk for not playing his best team.
Rassie thought he is smart for that game, aMapimpi Libbok OMG 🤦🏾♂️…..
@@rogue_lukoIf we kicked the penalty it would have been a "fantastic" effort.
I love SA rugby, however a very spirited young Argentinian team beat the the current world number 1. Well done Argentina.
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦it is what it is … well done too Argentina 🇦🇷 ! Massive mistakes was made and an unfortunate miss Kick by Mane on the end .. but don’t forget we are the champions! - Brush this game off and come back stronger! Next week 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦💪🏻💪🏻🔥 GO BOKKE!
Big mistake to replace Pollard... could have move him to centre,
He wanted Mannie to feel the pressure.
Bok fan, congrats to los pumas. Enjoy the celebrations tonight.
I wouldn’t be mad if Argentina wins the RC. They have been the team to have played consistently well this tournament, putting all the traditional rugby heavy weights to the sword.
It’s not a bad thing for the Boks and fans alike to be humbled.
The pumas better bring their A game next week or else they may face a severe Bok backlash. May the best team win 🏆
Congratulations Argentine from springbok fan 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
If u rewatch the last 2 minutes Jessie Kriel clearly comes in from side blatantly...should never have been penalty to boks!!
I WONDER WHEN THEY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT MANIE CANNOT SEE THE POLES ....
Cuz the pressure blinds him
@@Ebendejongh1we gave him enough chances now. Sasha is newer but can already handle the pressure much better than misbok
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I'm not an expert Rassie tried something but the players let him down. Time to admit you failed Rassie drop the vrot appels they are not too bad but not fit for this level send them back to their respective provinces they must start all over. Moenie gatkruip nie hulle doen dit in die politiek jy hoef dit nie in sport te doen nie.
@@japiesas6517that's why he doesn't adhere to policy given to him by previous Minister. I urge him to try anything funny,you long for an all white team,you can't stand the fact that non-whites are possibly the best in the world.
Im a Springbok Fan . Its good that Bokke lost so that we can know our weaknesses. Winning every game we blind us into thinking that we are perfect even though there things to fix in our game
I believe Manie just played his last game for the Boks 😢😢
Not with Gayton Mackenzie as Minister of Sport.
Hopefully!!
I really hope so.. He is pathetic... Can't handle any pressure... If rassie hasn't figured out by now that libbok is not springbok material, he never will...
@@mapleridge466gayton is not above rassie. Rassie decides. This is rassies team. Not Gayton
If we're going back to favourites or politics, we are doomed. There is so much talent, why stick with someone who has proven his dismal failures to place kick. Just look at the accuracy of out other flyhalves and other teams. Even the womens teams kick better. That is a fact!
In the second half Boks reverted to their endless kick and chase for attack strategy. Then in the last 5 minutes tried to run in a try - much too late. Coaching staff need to take the responsibility for this loss.
Must say that the Argentinian backline moves are truly entertaining - if only the Boks could get up to that standard of smoothness and accuracy!
Only Ox, Nortje and Pollard played well 😭
Why, with ten minutes to play, did Hendrikse and Libbok kick away so much possession, giving Argi the edge, I will never know. It has become very evident, that Libbok has to go, everyone but Rassie can see that it seems. The truth is, Handre should be kept on the field for 80 minutes, we have seen that time and time again.
Because the kicking game is how we win. Manie's tactical kicking was fantastic(his missed two misses on the penalties were costly, but his ball in hand was good). They put Argentina on the back foot, forced errors and knock ons with a slippery ball. After 6 plus years of Rassie as coach surely by now you have figured out why we kick?..
@@ProfreegolferPlease read what I said, again, with reference to the "LAST TEN MINUTES". The kicking game you refer to effectively lost the Boks the game in the space of ten minutes, when they could have and should have retained possession of the ball. The kicking undertaken handed possession to the Pumas, who wrecked any chance of an effective end game by the Boks. I will say nothing of the poor choice and performance of the Bok Captain, I am still scratching my head.
@@myfairworld I did read like you should read now. It was the kicking game that set up the set pieces that allowed us to have the opportunity to win that game. That was mostly off of Manie's boot....
The game was not won though, was it?
Salman should not be captain! We played poorly! Can’t blame a single person. Our defence was extremely poor and unstructured.
Thanks Rassie I admire for what U did say Manie was not the only problem they make lots of mistakes fair talk I like it❤❤❤
What a game 👌 as Boks supporter not too sissy with this loss actually great for a awesome final game let’s go Bokke 💪👍👊🇿🇦
Jordan in manie out. Naas Botha always said you cant win test matches with a goal kicker that cant kick under pressure. If Nanie missed one or two a game here and there, its still ok, everyone miss goalkicks, but after his goalkicking in the worldcup and now again today under pressure. Pumas played well and they came back with a bang. But lets be real for a change at this level of rugby , in the best team in the world, you should be able to slot goal kicks over consistantly, not other way around.
And when i saw that number 3 of ours not even try to tackle the guy past the try line but instead just walk past as if he had already dived for the try just broke my spirit. I hope he gets punishment for that too
The Moerat Manie experiment must be put to bed now..
Did this hurt enough Rassie? Your die hard fans are hurting, that just lost us the nr 1 ranking.
😂😂😂😂
Who cares 😂😂
The ranking isn't the goal. Next week the Boks will be no 1 again and cup winners, more important still, is Rassie's planning and managing for the 2027 RWC progresses another several steps.
@@petes9524Only a saffa is content with a loss. This is why the 2015 all blacks are the greatest.
@@mutafelaphiri4338 relevance, logic and coherence not your strong points.
Jayden made some poor decisions - situational awareness.
No. 9s is Faf and Grant
The same energy you use to badmouth, Jaden and Libbok please use it to point out Pollards poor defence that resulted in 2 tries
I sorry for the translation, I did it with google... "Hierdie ouens is so arrogant dat hulle dink hulle kan nie meer verloor nie" Well done Argentina!
We were humble before and after the game, so dont know what you are on about, it's like we are not allowed to celebrate wins and be dissapointed with losses like other teams. At least we dont blame everyone else when we lose ❤ Compliments to the Los Pumas, they played with passion and determination.
0:30 Salmaan Moerat + Manie Libok cost us the game. Moerat is not a good enough player and not worthy of being captain - and the other players know it.
No amount of your salty tears will keep them from the Springboks jersey so keep on crybaby
Well done Los Pumas - safe travels and welcome to SA.
Well at least now we know who we don't want as captain and who we should sell to China as a flyhalf. Congratulations to Argentina. Being the one team that really showed growth over time since their participation in this competition.
Not one question for Moerat says alot and No Rassie even if we won(not all smiles)we did not always deserve to win. This reminds me of the pre-2018 days where we missed tackle upon tackle and kick upon kick, and it was always only tears. When we play crap and lift 2 world cups I really wanted us to prove our worth by being unbeaten for the whole test season so now we already lost twice and still have a whole end of year tour...France missed a few kicks so did the All blacks. We need to be much better we were not exceptional yet...I await patiently for the boks to shine❤❤❤🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦❤❤❤
OMG Yes! The Pumas finally beat and suffocated the RWC2023 Champions the Springboks! Now it's everyone's game now. Fair play to the Springboks for bringing the heat right to the 80 min, but just felt short. Also they should had given the goal kick to Handre Pollard, instead of Manie Libbok. The Pumas 100% deserve this win!
"Suffocated"?
@@petes9524 Yes, because didn't Argentina came back from being 0-17 down...To then pressuring the Springboks to making silly errors to win by 29-28. They even pressured Springbok No.23 Manie Lebbok during the crucial last kick (which he luckley missed!)
@@ryansimms31 Unfortunately Manie Libbok has proven costly under pressure even in the world cup. They know he can't handle pressure and should never have put him in that position. Not fair to him either.
@@ryansimms31 Don't go into the pundit profession.😄
@@ryansimms31didn't the wallabies (weakest wallabies side of all time) almost do that to your team yesterday? Also suffocated your all blacks
Bad performance all round. Ox had a great game though but that game looked done after we got a yellow card. Boys never came back after that.
Hopefully next week we do better
Springboks did a great job still proud of them
Rassie Moert is not a captain material and weakens the team, and Manny Libok should not be the number 10 on the side. He can not kick straight. We should never have lost. Players should be picked on their performance. Stop feeling sorry for these weeak guys. 😢💔
The same problem in line-out, mistakes, defence.
I would like to see Handré’s tackle success vs Tackles missed.
Rassie Gambled beyond logic with some C - rated players in the squad which he has proven does not make the grade. There are man players in provincial teams ready to show what they can do!
obviously your depth isnt as great as SA make out.
Well, now he knows so the gamble paid off - if not in the exact direction intended.
Rassie it’s okay! We’ve got you!
Boys we are right behind you and will always be!
This is a tough one to swallow but this is big picture time 😊
Let’s stay strong!
Manie the JOKER.
Pollard would have kicked that with eyes closed.
😂😂When Pollard miss 2 tackles that resulted in tries and he missed a penalty 😂😂are you okay
If the boks lose next one this will take rugby into a new arena. Might be good for the game. I think the boks can now win anywhere with any team.
Moerat is not ready to be captain, period.
Manie sunk our game not our captain but he will get better ❤🇿🇦💯
@@awiesterkste4473"he will get better" hahahaha a year ago you people also said that. No. His time is over
@@avrilfortuin5280 Moerat not ready to put on a Bok jersey.......period
Remember manie and moerat both did not have much game time,rassie is making them use to the international test and the pressure they are playing on hes giving them a feel so that when its world cup time there will be no stopping the bokke.Rassie this is a great strategie that you are using, you are playing with the minds of the whole world,Well played to you and keep them geussing our next step❤Lots of love to the whole squad.
That is no excuse to underperform. Other teams have new players too, but they perform. There is too much talent in SA to stick with underperformers.
Let's be honest yes yellow card helped them score tries but our defence didn't shift out when we were 14 down we where narrow in defence and players where slow.Rassie should say sorry to SA as we started so well we should have put the pedal down.Poor team picking that's why you have a bench to bleed in player not change 10 players
Nice one Argentina. Deserved. See you in Nelspruit. MANIE... need to relax bud. You can kick just chill a little upstairs.. the ball will follow ;-)
I don't agree. He has had more than enough time to get his act together. Either he spends his summer place kicking or he must be replaced. In my humble opinion, he does not have what it takes. A near miss means absolutely nothing. Sorry, he ain't the guy.
Manie's kicking 😢
pollards missed kick
Malcolm Marx Line outs also
@@subbie5498 Manies, was right in front of the posts, poor kicking to the corner, and kicking possession away, absolutely useless effort from Manie today.
@@subbie5498 Pollard missed a conversion from the touchline that was a tough kick
You can't lay this defeat just at Manies' feet. Los Pumas outplayed Die Bokke, as simple as that. All credit to them.
I remember quite vividly when Siya was handed the captaincy. In fact some till this day still think he is not captain material. Rassie is not under any pressure whatsoever to select Moerat let alone make him captain. He must have seen something in him. I just think people are way too emotional at times. This loss to Argentina may just be a blessing in disguise as it reminds us that there is work to be done if we're to retain the world cup for an unprecedented 3 times in a row.
Lol. Moerat is like: what I am even doing here?
I just don't understand why that guy from the sharks is not in Jordan hendrikse. The guy that slotted the win for sharks inches curry cup..
Manie cant kick. Pollard cant tackle. We need Sasha back.
Laughing my head off!!! Amazing how the knives come out with a loss, same thing happens here in NZ!
The difference between NZ and SA is the knives are focused on their own team and their shortcomings as opposed to blaming everyone else for a loss. Also, it feels good to congratulate opposition for a win. Well done to Argentina Los Pumas.
This is on Rassie choosing Libbok
I guess this was probably mannie's last chance to prove himself
I sincerely hope that this was the last straw. He is not a professional place kicker!
Lineouts can’t function
Rassie got some answers to questions regarding selection of players and the depth of this squad
We need more depth in that forward pack and players can’t be getting too many chances
Well deserved win for Argentina 🇦🇷
I agree with Rassie. It shouldn't have come down to just 1 point, but the Bokke was comprehensively outplayed, and Los Pumas deserved this victory. Congratulations Los Pumas. From 🇿🇦
If u rewatch the last 2 minutes Jessie Kriel clearly comes in from side...should never been a Bok penalty. Bad decision!!
All we hear is blah blah blah. We want to know what actions you are going to take after such an embarrassing and disappointing defeat
Not my captain, should not be a bokke
Could the sound quality be a bit crapper please
Poor Libbok - will he ever live that one down? If SA lose by a bonus point next week he'll be cursing himself....
This is a test no excuse
Sanele Nohamba should the the answer to the questions whether they stay with Manie or not. His just in a different class player that are able to adopt to situations. Would be a great asset to the boks style of playing.
Moerat looking like a naughty schoolboy haha guys just not up to scratch right now, maybe needs more gametime post injury, but just doesnt look like the real deal at test level. Great club player though
Pumas was the better team on the day. Well done. Boks were overconfident that they gonna win the Pumas.
It mutely was a given by some of us as supporter s that Pumas might knuckle us and win there;then in Nelspruit we smother them with our somewhat full compliment of World Cup okes.Pumas played skillful and deserved to win, so it's also good we loose to shake and shape niggles up for this week 💚🇿🇦💪🖐️
Rassie took a risk and lost!
True
Obviously your depth isnt as great as you make out lol.
Jip
@@Rugby-union-and-leagueWhat nonsense are always talking. You need to put in new guys to see how they going to play. It's not the end if the world. Look how bad it is going for the All Blacks
@@elizehauptfleisch7542 The ABs played Rettalick and Whitelock relentlessly from 2011 to 2023 and now they are experiencing the consequences as Va'ai and Tuipoltou cant fill their boots. Same thing with England playing Youngs and Care relentlessly and then ending up in the 2019RWC final with Ben Spencer on only one or two caps. You have to build depth. I do wonder if Rassie actually threw Moerat in there to be able to justify relegating him down the pecking order - and justify bringing through new locks.
Always be humble ❤
Lift your head Moerat, Kolisi never drops his head, win or lose.
Shouldve started libbok and brought pollard on to close off
How to unmute moerat Montoya was so vocal
Well spoken Rassie
Why are these press conferences recorded with a potato?
Rassie I hope u learned your lesson with Moerat!I do not see what you see in him but wake-up and please stop winning just!Win big or go home this 1 point difference is bullshut!Still love u but come on.
The Boks are so focused on attack now that they completely forgot to defend.
The lack of defense made Argentina look much better than they actually were.
I won't even talk about Manie....nothing can be said that hasn't been said several thousand times ~!
Can jordan hendrikse be called up instead of Manie... hes got BMT
Watch SA vs Wales when he debuted. Not that great in the green and gold.
Congrats argentina
A lot of people here talking smack. It's a team effort and this young bok side gave their best. Well done boys. Ek bly n bok
We lose WORLD NOS 1 Ranking and cant regain on our own steam. We are now dependent of Ireland Losing since we not facing them end of year.
Well, we are playing the All Blacks and Argentina in the Autumn. You might be in luck, lol 😂
Who cares about rankings?
You don’t deserve it Ireland beat you again in your own back yard now team 6th in the world beat you, it’s the same old SA set out to dominate but fail to deceive.
@@Mo-yd8xc True 👍
@davidwalker2402 ☹️ David, it's not that deep mate. South Africa are world champions. Come on now.
Well done to Argentina... love the way they come to play.... The Doc has a plan and people forget that Siya also had a bumpy start ito results... always sad to see the true colors of RSA supporters... only out on sunny days....
Ag nee, these armchair generals calling for heads.
Bok fans need to stop getting high on their own supply and realize they are peer competitors with a bunch of really good teams. So quick to tear your players apart. One point in it. Relax
I’m on the same page as you…
No unbeaten teams in rugby championship is a good sign of competition! All Blacks were too dominant for far too long and good on them - But now it’s a level playing field and we’ll see the next team to rise and become dominant. All teams are on the right track and even Wallabies have shown that they ARE capable!😊
Now Rassie knows his B team can’t do the job.
Congrats Argentina 🇿🇦