Tuning a bench grinder

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2016
  • Walking through the steps in tuning a new Metabo DS 200 bench grinder.

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  • @garychandler4296
    @garychandler4296 6 років тому +74

    All my years as a fabricator, remodeler, repairman, mechanic and many other hats I wear, and all I've ever known or thought about was a dressing wheel! This was informative and well enough done to make me want to improve my 3 shop grinders, and don't you worry about the language police my friend; they can probably barely spell their own names.
    Go with God, always!

    • @Wood_And_Tools
      @Wood_And_Tools  6 років тому +4

      Thanks. My channel has other videos mostly on wood stuff. May the Lord bless you this season.

    • @SlayerofFiction
      @SlayerofFiction 4 роки тому

      yea, son of a Pipe Fitter/Welder so I have done a shitload of Fabrication, I am more than a little embarrassed myself :P

    • @mjremy2605
      @mjremy2605 Рік тому

      English is the Lingua Franca (common language) of the world. Curiously, the ones who speak English the worst are Americans. There are too many grammatical and punctuation errors in your comment to bother correcting.
      As for god, you are better off with a dog.

  • @TrapShooter68
    @TrapShooter68 5 років тому +9

    Best bench grinder tuneup video on UA-cam! And I've watched over 2 dozen. Thanks!

  • @gilbus4989
    @gilbus4989 6 років тому +10

    I never imagined having to balance a bench grinder. I learned something today-Thanks

  • @kjamison5951
    @kjamison5951 5 років тому +2

    I have a bench grinder to refurbish and I will be applying your tips to help me. Using self adhesive labels as balancing shins is inspiring!
    Thank you!

  • @knucklehead0980
    @knucklehead0980 2 роки тому

    Nice job, Thx from Austin TX!

  • @Labearski44
    @Labearski44 6 років тому +1

    Great video, I'm definitely in the market for a bench grinder after watching. Thank you for sharing!

  • @madhubhosale7243
    @madhubhosale7243 5 років тому

    How truly enlightening, I was about to open my Stanley bench grinder package and set it up in my small DIY small workshop. Thanks .

  • @ODNWUK
    @ODNWUK 4 роки тому +1

    The clearest video I have seen on this subject, many thanks. I'm tuning an old Ferm FSM-200 which was my Dad's. This grinder is poorly designed as the inner pressed steel clamp washer is located by a circlip in an oversized groove that the clamp washer rocks in.

  • @plasmarc9
    @plasmarc9 4 роки тому

    Man, that sticker balancing is very, very clever and a cheap way to true a wobbly grinding stone on any grinder. I just tried it on my big 25cm diameter grinding discs, and it works like a charm! Thank you very much! You are a genious! Davor

  • @mjremy2605
    @mjremy2605 Рік тому

    This was an extremely useful video for me. I am new to bench grinding, bought a cheap grinder 8" from Harbor Freight and this thing bucks like a wild horse at a rodeo! I researched so many 6" bench grinders - Palmgren, Dewalt, Rikon, Baldor ( way too pricey), Sears Craftsman, Ryobi, Porter Cable.... etc! Exhausting job. They are all built cheaply in China with bad QC. Even though Metabo is built in China, it is German engineered and QC is probably better. The first thing I noticed was that the wheel guard housing was heavy duty, no sharp edges and flimsy steel, and easy to remove. This is a huge plus. It looks solidly built. Your wheel truing and balancing was very informative but I also got to see how the Metabo works. The 6" grinder is affordable at under $200 USD. Not bad. Dewalt 6" is only $100 currently on Amazon, but the hand rests don't even line up to the wheel and you cannot put a 1" thick wheel on it, as the spindle is too short, sheesh! Terrible design! Someone on Amazon reviewed the Palmgren 6^ and said he liked it better than Dewalt and gave the reasons why, but Palmgren still has 2 pages of 1 star reviews - not good! I think Metabo is the one for me! Very grateful for the wheel balancing and a demo of Metabo as well.
    fyi - Your audio is sub par and hard to hear. To remove background noise add a 'wind sock' fluffy cover on your microphone. It will reduce background noise. Another way is to get a shirt microphone to attach on your collar for clear audio track. Speak up loudly.

  • @FantaMongo
    @FantaMongo 6 років тому +2

    Hi, great video. I bought this bench grinder and it vibrates also. I will use your instructions to make it run smoother. Thank you :)

  • @halmomani
    @halmomani 6 років тому

    Great video, and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us

  • @jason4547
    @jason4547 3 роки тому

    I've done the coin test on my Table Saw, never thought to apply the same test to my Bench Grinder tell now. And for that I Thank You :)
    "The Only True Source Of Knowledge Is Experience"

  • @TotoGuy-Original
    @TotoGuy-Original 5 років тому

    Thank you very much this is an extremely useful video! i will be using this information to balance my new 8 inch grinder. this is the best video i found

  • @BeauSeverson
    @BeauSeverson Рік тому

    Fantastic video. Just got a new grinder because it was so cheap, and with it being so cheap came a lot of vibration out of the box. Glad to see how to start solving this and just ordered a truing tool as well. Thanks!

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 2 роки тому

    Interesting & informative, especially as I have my first bench grinder ordered to use for applying primary bevels to worn chisels & plane blades.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @andrewbieger5004
    @andrewbieger5004 4 роки тому +2

    Awesome video, my friend. Using the tape trick, you have shown an alternate method of handling the runout from the wheel flanges, which are usually stamped steel and rarely true. Much better option than trying to true the flanges.
    This is great news for all of us with cheaper grinders that need some help. As long as the motor shaft runout is minimal, you have it covered.

  • @tobyw9573
    @tobyw9573 7 років тому +11

    Good video, but need to check wheels for out of true very low speeds - essentially static true of wheel. Check for side and face runout first. If there is a problem. Remove wheels and check motor under power for balance and turning by hand for true. Ok? Then check for runout in wheel washers - common problem - I think washers may be getting bent in shipment with wheels mounted. Checking with pencil for high speed is a good idea. You can check slow speed with marker pen. Then remove washers and spin wheel on stationary shaft to check for loose fit on shaft. New bushing or shimming with tape may be needed. Once the wheels are properly mounted, then start where the gentleman started. Note the the grinder was still a little buzzy after he was finished.

  • @Spurioushamster
    @Spurioushamster 6 років тому

    Good video. I bought a 8" bench grinder today and the runout on one of the wheels was around 2mm. After a bit of messing around I got it pretty good, but I'm going to use your method to fine tune it.

  • @ashmanra1922
    @ashmanra1922 6 років тому

    Excellent video with useful info. Many thanks!

  • @banditrider613
    @banditrider613 6 років тому +1

    Very well done, clear and easy to follow.

  • @johnmav8309
    @johnmav8309 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much. I have exactly the same grinding machine from metabo. But I didn't know how to eliminate the vibrations. I am very happy to have found your video and that you taught me how to fix the shake! I am very grateful to you! : ) ; )

  • @JohnSmith-fw2et
    @JohnSmith-fw2et 6 років тому

    Thank you, my brand new grinder has improved greatly

  • @snoopu2601
    @snoopu2601 6 років тому

    Thank for education didn't know how to adjust a bench grinder until now

  • @lloydprunier4415
    @lloydprunier4415 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the tips, I knew I had to grind the face of the wheels, but was puzzled with what to do about the lateral wobbling. I need better flange washers for sure, but the tape for shims might be my best solution for now.

  • @cosakti
    @cosakti 6 років тому

    nice info, i never thought before that using expensive bench grinder still will have to tune it first before use

  • @DL-lf2vd
    @DL-lf2vd 3 роки тому

    Very well done. Thanks for these tips!!

  • @user-io9ln1or7c
    @user-io9ln1or7c 3 дні тому

    Thank you Sir.🎉

  • @frankkent4049
    @frankkent4049 6 років тому +5

    Great video, I'm sure this guy is Filipino and unlike some I don't have any problem understanding him unlike some people who say his English is terrible, at least he knows how to speak two languages, the reason I say he's Filipino is because of the sound in the background at around 7:30 gave it away, the roar of a jeep net passing.

  • @patw3980
    @patw3980 6 років тому +1

    Great Video very informative Thanks very much.
    To all the people claiming the "left wheel" is on the wrong way, it was not! @ 7:51 you can see the presenter turning the motor side of the wheel towards the camera. This is necessary to high lite the pencil markings he has been using to indicate running errors.
    I too would like it done at a slower speed as others have commented. But the owner of a new grinder who wants to sharpen a chisel etc isn't going to buy / make a static balancer ;)
    This is an excellent example of educating a broad audience on an issue they were unaware of :D

  • @MrRichard57000
    @MrRichard57000 4 роки тому

    Good tip with that coin!! I ordered a wheel dresser like yours a few days ago... Busy with a 150mm and one 200mm grinder so I will use that coin to see if there will be a vibration in it... Thanks for posting....

  • @ballstank3904
    @ballstank3904 Рік тому

    hey bro, thanks for the video. legend 👍

  • @rabelingoodstanding2628
    @rabelingoodstanding2628 6 років тому

    thank you my friend for this very informative video.

  • @sfbadger45
    @sfbadger45 6 років тому +1

    Excellent video. Thanks

  • @marknagy5892
    @marknagy5892 5 років тому

    Great info ! Thanks Toby !

  • @blipco5
    @blipco5 7 років тому +5

    Good job. My grinder vibrates so much everything walks off the tool bench.

    • @asulondawn
      @asulondawn 6 років тому

      Bolt it down!

    • @tassiedevil4729
      @tassiedevil4729 6 років тому +12

      mine too... so I bolted it down... now the bloody bench walks off....

    • @iridios6127
      @iridios6127 6 років тому +2

      +Tassie Devil
      add some vibrodampening material under grinder , and not tighten the bolts .
      I put 5 layer worn denim (old pants).

    • @shreddder999
      @shreddder999 4 роки тому +1

      @@tassiedevil4729 I bolted my bench down and now the garage...

  • @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
    @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc 2 роки тому

    The dressing diamont tools is good for reforming the worn disks.The brand new disks after some grinding will take their perfectly round shape without any special tool needed.

  • @jacquespoirier9071
    @jacquespoirier9071 25 днів тому

    you started with a very good bench grinder, most of then are not of that quality and need a modification at the level of wheel retaining washers.

  • @nightsaber2272
    @nightsaber2272 6 років тому +12

    Compared to my cheap grinder this has no vibration at all... Mine tried to run away from my shop at first start XD

  • @scroungasworkshop4663
    @scroungasworkshop4663 4 роки тому +1

    Great job. Easy to understand and good editing. I would also suggest a cheap lapel mic as then your voice won’t be so affected by background noise. I’ve have been balancing grinding wheels and wire wheels for years but I have never see stickers used. Very clever. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺

  • @neogeo8267
    @neogeo8267 6 років тому

    excellent video - thank you

  • @eagleswingswood8979
    @eagleswingswood8979 6 років тому +1

    I maraming salamat po I enjoyed this very much my grinder is having little little little vibration and it's fairly new I like your English it's better than my Tagalog even though I lived in Bataan for many years doing missionary work thank you my friend

  • @dragan3290
    @dragan3290 2 роки тому

    Excellent tutorial! 🙂👍👍👍

  • @marB84
    @marB84 3 роки тому

    Very good explanation. Thank you.

  • @d.e.b.b5788
    @d.e.b.b5788 2 роки тому

    The first bench grinder I ever owned, I purchased new, at a flea market, for $10. No brand name, no stickers, just a nice, new appearing, 8" grinder. I put it on my bench, plugged it in, turned it on, and it bounced and danced right off the edge of the bench. Hey, I was 18, and stupid. Now I'm 66...... and still do stupid things occasionally. But at least I never bought a no brand power tool again, and got a cheap lesson on power tool safety. In retrospect, watching a new device so out of balance, bounce and dance around was pretty funny.

  • @Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
    @Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this video, my good man.

  • @moonolyth
    @moonolyth 4 роки тому

    Excellent, I was wondering if you would address the wobble and how to tune.
    Simply foolish not to invest some time into shimming out the side wobble. I end up with wheels on my machines for years... have three. I have three that vibrate like old washing machines. That's a great tip using small labels. I often shim with aluminum cans and foil but aluminum won't stick as labels will. Soon as I get some time I'll do the same. A really good tip for a tool that is always running. Thanks Much.

  • @celtichongy
    @celtichongy 6 років тому +3

    Interesting video. I would say the presenter is Malaysian or Singaporean Chinese. Was waiting to hear him say " ok lah" or boleh-lah to be fully sure.! Both great places btw.

  • @Rich32262
    @Rich32262 5 років тому

    Lived with vibration for years. It was out of round and wobbled side to side. I tried the tape for the side to side and it didn't work. I did something that is probably a huge no no. I used my diamond dresser on the sides of the wheel. Almost all vibration gone.

  • @rodwinratuiste1377
    @rodwinratuiste1377 5 років тому

    Sir where did you buy the metabo ds200 and how much many thanks.

  • @MrShobar
    @MrShobar 2 роки тому

    I seem to recall that a 1G vibrational level is just sufficient to cause a penny to bounce on a vibrating surface.

  • @jimmycav369
    @jimmycav369 3 роки тому

    Great Video. Like other people I'd never knew this was necessary but evidently it'll cut down on noise and give the bearings an easier life so worth doing. Does the dressing tool come included with the grinder?

    • @johnchung6900
      @johnchung6900 3 роки тому +1

      Need to buy separately. Not that expensive.

    • @jimmycav369
      @jimmycav369 3 роки тому

      @@johnchung6900 thank you

  • @mikespain8655
    @mikespain8655 5 років тому

    Thanks for the video on bench grinder. Need to dress my wheels.

  • @dannysuykens1295
    @dannysuykens1295 5 років тому

    Why is the direction arrow on the grinding stone and the machine in the opposit direction ????

  • @michaelnobibux2886
    @michaelnobibux2886 6 років тому +2

    Good video.Your english is fine!

  • @tech270154
    @tech270154 6 років тому

    from wich country may i ask you to have beautiful trees like that . i wish i have a yard like that .this is a very good grinder ,i should say the best

  • @user-hb8be5wb4q
    @user-hb8be5wb4q 6 років тому

    You Frank, reckon it be a jeepney? Sure would like a ride again.

  • @IloveYou-zh3ob
    @IloveYou-zh3ob 10 місяців тому

    First one showed missing parts. Second one was complete. It's a working bench grinder ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxxC8HPnl24fu0XhMU_nbmWNEUoK1RMHXk . One thing I like alot is that it's surprisingly quiet. I don't feel like I'm sacrificing any rpms or power for the quietness either. All in all it's a very nice machine. No vibration whatsoever.

  • @gbuggy440
    @gbuggy440 4 роки тому

    Good video although I did notice the wheel was mounted backwards from the rotation arrows on its label. Still good job cutting down vibration.

    • @robsmith1921
      @robsmith1921 4 роки тому

      The wheel is turned over , the stickers where on the inside, so the direction was right.

  • @neilfrasersmith
    @neilfrasersmith 8 місяців тому

    The wheel has been put on the wrong way around. At 2:28 look at the direction arrow on the side of the grindstone wheel. That probably had something to do with the problem.

  • @emiller9426
    @emiller9426 2 роки тому

    Did you use ordinary tape for shims? Did they have weights?

  • @toortechnical4685
    @toortechnical4685 2 роки тому

    Verry nice

  • @iridios6127
    @iridios6127 6 років тому

    What i need to do , if i change the right stone 6-17 times in a day ?? And i won`t to spend any minute everytime to balanc those wheels ???

    • @Wood_And_Tools
      @Wood_And_Tools  6 років тому +1

      I suggest that a belt grinder would be a better choice in this application. It is very fast to change the belt of various grits.

    • @iridios6127
      @iridios6127 6 років тому

      +WoodAndTools
      thanks for answer , but i not only use stone wheels , it also ribbon , wool , textile and other wheels .
      *BTW* it was mostly rhetorical question . (*____-)
      Down below i answer to my question myself.

  • @staspustovit6835
    @staspustovit6835 Рік тому

    Man, we need to check how good the balance of each abrasive wheel is. Moreover, each circle must be checked separately. The abrasive material is not uniform, so even if the disc is perfect in geometry, one edge will still be a little heavier, which means there will be vibration. There are many videos on UA-cam on balancing abrasive wheels.

  • @sidtonic2427
    @sidtonic2427 5 років тому

    Am I missing something? The arrow on the left wheel is pointing opposite to the arrow on the guard.

    • @frankw8876
      @frankw8876 5 років тому

      Maybe just show the direction to tighten the nut.

  • @paulyates2548
    @paulyates2548 6 років тому

    Which motorway did he film this at the side off.good useful vid but Waite till the rush hour as finished next time.

  • @joro3108
    @joro3108 3 роки тому

    The left wheel's label suggests that you mounted it spinning in the wrong direction. I didn't think that grinding wheels were directional, but apparently the manufacturer did. They probably know best.

  • @dawsoncanfield5386
    @dawsoncanfield5386 5 років тому

    This is only partial. A bit dangerous to do on a bench grinder, but you can true the sides of the wheel also. I have done it on surface grinders more than once. Simple process, clamp a diamond to the bench in some way, and just touch the side of the wheel. Inside and outside.
    Also, it looked like his wheel bushing was too short for the wheel. It should go through the wheel far enough to stabilize the wheel completely, instead of just holding it with the nut and washers.

  • @Plasmo20
    @Plasmo20 4 роки тому

    Nice video. Like others I had not considered this necessary. Why make the effort to tune it? Also I am pretty disappointed with my BOSCH BG guard removal by comparison to this Metabo. I thought the Bosch were better than the Ryobis etc, however the Metabo makes my Bosch look cheap and ill conceived. cheers

  • @SolarMillUSA
    @SolarMillUSA 2 роки тому

    Instead of using a coin to measure vibration, there are a number of free apps you can use on any cell phone. That way you have actual numbers to go by instead of an estimation.

  • @CosgroveNotts
    @CosgroveNotts 6 років тому

    That looks a really shifty wheel

  • @iradukundajeandedieu6903
    @iradukundajeandedieu6903 7 років тому

    wht is the main part of grinding machine

  • @stevebrodie7777
    @stevebrodie7777 6 років тому +1

    Set your grinders running clockwise . Dress worn stone with washers that rotate on a bolt , small washer large washer alternately

  • @krisachar
    @krisachar Рік тому

    👍

  • @TVBASICINFO
    @TVBASICINFO 6 років тому

    Great job, but personally, I'd take the damn thing back to the seller and demand an upgraded version at no extra cost. Companies like Metabo definetly dont want or need the bad publicity. :)

    • @brucea550
      @brucea550 3 роки тому +1

      It’s not the grinder, it’s the wheels. $1000 grinder running $10 wheels will still have the problem.

  • @di6128
    @di6128 6 років тому +1

    The left wheel is marked to rotate in the opposite direction !!!

  • @rossnoodles1293
    @rossnoodles1293 2 роки тому

    7:35 the wheel is on the wrong way, you can see by the arrows on the sticker.

  • @boltonky
    @boltonky 3 роки тому

    I have never done it and should of a long time ago but think its probably cheaper just to buy new wheels and then dress them going forward

  • @henrikhv5084
    @henrikhv5084 5 років тому

    I liked that, great video :-) I got work to do...

  • @pieterbotes8938
    @pieterbotes8938 5 років тому

    Very important to dress a grinding wheel to get rid of imbalance. It's like balancing a car's wheels. Fit a fixed shoulder piece on top of tool rest and you will be able to move dressing tool in a straight line across edge of wheel to remove imbalance and have a flat surface for sharpening your drills. Never grind on the side of a grinding wheel - EVER.

  • @garyg1254
    @garyg1254 6 років тому

    I think that you may have the wheel on reversed. But great video anyways.

  • @aldwingaskin3049
    @aldwingaskin3049 4 роки тому

    Mercedes to.

  • @_Shengur_
    @_Shengur_ 2 роки тому

    Мне кажется, что из коробки это никогда не работало гладко. Шлифовальный круг нужно выровнять алмазным карандашом, а в идеальном случае - он должен сидеть на специальных шайбах с грузами + исправленный алмазным карандашом.
    ua-cam.com/video/U5AyqcW8bwQ/v-deo.html
    Только тогда это будет работать чисто.

  • @shrisuyash6714
    @shrisuyash6714 3 роки тому

    after some usage it will again needs calibration --- i think it is better to use it without tuning cause nothing is perfect in this world some errors always occurs .....!

  • @eagleswingswood8979
    @eagleswingswood8979 6 років тому

    Only one thing you must be by a road or Machinery is running in the background I'm a little hard of hearing and it was very noisy sometimes hard to hear you but your accent is just fine thank you

  • @stevebrodie7777
    @stevebrodie7777 6 років тому

    Your wheel is running in the wrong direction. Left side

  • @oltovac
    @oltovac 4 роки тому

    At one point you can see that wheel is mounted in wrong rotation

  • @brucea550
    @brucea550 3 роки тому +1

    To everyone saying the rotation of the wheel is backwards- grinding wheels are not directional! They are a cast product, it would make no difference which way it rotates.

  • @user-ll1qt4jn2v
    @user-ll1qt4jn2v 4 роки тому

    На стол поклади там не упадет, не пойму чистокровный ариец рекламирует точило!?

  • @user-lp5tk7uc6y
    @user-lp5tk7uc6y 6 років тому +1

    It will came back after useing it to much

  • @carlmason983
    @carlmason983 3 роки тому

    (7:30) arrow on wheel is pointing the wrong way.

    • @brucea550
      @brucea550 3 роки тому +1

      I saw that too, which puzzles me, since grinding wheels are not directional.

  • @s.gautamd.jtatekasayadav6683
    @s.gautamd.jtatekasayadav6683 5 років тому

    Mujhe chahiye grinder

  • @yezok01
    @yezok01 Місяць тому

    Talk to your doctor trudeau
    maid will be approved two weeks.😢

  • @marcinszelest
    @marcinszelest 6 років тому

    1:58 - The left shield is badly attached
    wrong direction of rotation

  • @Tome4kkkk
    @Tome4kkkk Рік тому

    All those videos about tuning $200 bench grinders are telling me it's a waste of time. I'll make myself a collar, put it perfectly on any shaft, 2 bearings and I'll drive it with a belt with almost any motor. I need it balanced and quiet, not for making anvils out of rails. Companies make them 500 Watts because it's cheaper than actually balancing the rotating assembly.

  • @luisalbertotorresaguirre2754
    @luisalbertotorresaguirre2754 7 років тому

    The disk is in wrong direction.

    • @johnchung6900
      @johnchung6900 7 років тому

      Good observation. I checked Norton site and the wheels from the manual does not mention the rotation direction. Should be good as it is since it is the same kind of wheel.

  • @rabie4x4
    @rabie4x4 6 років тому

    those are expensive

  • @habiks
    @habiks 7 років тому

    Dressing a wheel is not the same as balancing it.. You have equipment to dress the wheel, but not to balance it..

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      @tedmarten2069 7 років тому

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  • @nineteen-sixty-nine9373
    @nineteen-sixty-nine9373 4 роки тому +2

    You did not show us how you positioned the stickers on the side of the wheel.Not very clear video,Even the pencil tecnique you are not telling us what your looking for.To a person who does not have a clue this video does no help much!

  • @davidmdomingo
    @davidmdomingo 6 років тому

    Nice video. But you need not insert your face into the camera in order to teach. If you showcase too much in the video, it looses its sense of purpose.