Mixing with Headphones - Audeze MM-500 by Manny Marroquin

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  • @Gabriel-l2j1r
    @Gabriel-l2j1r 10 місяців тому +4

    This is an advertisement, IMHO.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  10 місяців тому +1

      dang - I hope not. I use them every day. Thanks for watching.

    • @veritas7010
      @veritas7010 7 місяців тому

      Honestly I thought as well until I tried 15 pairs on a day... ffs the sound on mm500 is so perfectly crafted 😭

    • @veritas7010
      @veritas7010 7 місяців тому

      Honestly I thought as well until I tried 15 pairs in a day... ffs the sound on mm500 is so perfectly crafted 😭

  • @hummarstraful
    @hummarstraful 2 місяці тому +1

    Great review. Glad you emphasized several times "translation." I can't believe how many people review these headphones like audiophiles --- "it has a sweet high end and great bass." ARRGGG!! There is so much of that crap on UA-cam and reviews on all the sites that sell audio gear. Translation is priority #1 PERIOD. You get it. Thanks again.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  2 місяці тому +2

      ah - thank you for that nice comment. Cheers mate!

  • @urbanman1516
    @urbanman1516 9 місяців тому +2

    I extensively compared the MM500 with the LCD-X and purchase the latter. The MM500 are lacking in bass/sub bass. Very apparent when listen to electronic music.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  9 місяців тому +1

      Actually no - they don't lack, it's all there - the low end frequency range is complete, and all the way into sub frequencies (you can measure this), but it is turned down. So it's fully there - but reduced. You have to train your ears for it. That's the mixing trick Manny uses. That said, I use Realphones with MM500 (or an Amp with EQ), where you can simulate a stronger SUB - and it gets really thick. They react very well to this, and stay clean while boosting. No distortion at all.

    • @urbanman1516
      @urbanman1516 9 місяців тому +1

      @@massivebeatzz Yeah, I don't really agree. Spent many hours critically comparing the two and it was obvious the LCD-X offers a proper full representation of the low end/subs without the need for EQ software. The 500's felt a bit like a guessing game in that department. Just too subdued. Like I said, I produce mostly electronic.

    • @thepanicroommastering2062
      @thepanicroommastering2062 2 місяці тому

      I think the Problem here is that the MM500 have a proper upper Midrange boost compared to the X. Maybe thats why you can’t hear the Sub Area less good. I think the X are the better choice. (in my humble opinion). Anyway, thanks for the Video.

  • @whichoneisbetter8902
    @whichoneisbetter8902 Рік тому +3

    thanks for this in depth review man! - I ordered a pair based on this. I have a pretty good studio setup, but still not ideal , the MM500 are going to get me closer, and also when traveling.

    • @hummarstraful
      @hummarstraful 2 місяці тому

      A year later how is the translation?

  • @jamesewanchook2276
    @jamesewanchook2276 8 днів тому

    Hello, I mix and master with MM500's straight out of my mac book pro which seems to drive them easily. I need a comparable pair of closed backs that could also help keep things portable. Great channel btw, any suggestions? Cheers from Vancouver!

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  7 днів тому

      ah - you're too kind. yes, I'd say the Neumann NDH-20 - I sue them when I travel, and the new gen Macbook Pros (with built in headphone amp) really pairs well.

  • @HEDDAudioGmbH
    @HEDDAudioGmbH 4 місяці тому +1

    How can one reach you? :)

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  4 місяці тому

      office at massivebeatz dot com (beatz hier mit einem Z). Vielen Dank!

  • @LocaliLLocano
    @LocaliLLocano Рік тому +2

    I bought these with the reveal + plug-in. Really good mixes out of these headphones. I use the little labs monitor to drive the headphones

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +2

      Happy to hear, and MM500/Reveal and Little Labs is quite a great combo!

  • @VST2323
    @VST2323 Рік тому +1

    I JUST GO THOSE HEADPHONE AND I CAN SAY THAT THOSE HEADPHONE ARE THE TRUTH ITS INSANE FOR MIXING SO MUCH DETAIL.

    • @VST2323
      @VST2323 Рік тому

      @@salut9658 yea they are 10x better then the 1990 pro. they are the most smooth and realistic headphone i have worn and very nice to listen to

  • @dingbatjack1234
    @dingbatjack1234 Рік тому +2

    You cant give an honest review when you get them for free.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +5

      With me it is the other way around. If I would have paid, for them I wouldn't be unbiased, because I spent the money, so I'd have to justify to myself.... My Mazda is the best car on the streets, I keep telling myself 😂

  • @minatoaqutansaiko
    @minatoaqutansaiko 4 місяці тому

    I just want to use one earphone and don't want to be tired of switching devices all the time depending on the type of music. I listen to 80% classical and 20% jazz and pop. I have also seen the mm500 so far, and I think the instrument part is quite good, and the vocals are in the front, so the female voice sounds good. Do you recommend other headphones at this level? I think the sound field of the mm500 is okay. For classical music, the instrument tone is not too modified. , the low-frequency dive is enough for jazz. I don’t know if I understand this right?

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  4 місяці тому +1

      Yes - if you are an audiophile, you might like this headphone too, but keep in mind it is designed for mixing and mastering engineers to make our job easier. Reveal flaws, not over accentuate certain areas, or make things sound prettier. At the same time it is not designed to be extremely flat, because we need some help identifying problems. They also react very well to EQ and crossfeed (which is what I sue them with), and the results are stellar. I think you can't go wrong with these headphones - and it will come down to personal taste - with others in that price category. I am currently testing teh Heddphone TWO, so stand by for those results.

  • @veritas7010
    @veritas7010 6 місяців тому

    the weight of these is soo dumb, are they really going for a pro market or a kind of fashion show, so much work they put into making lighter drivers and then they make a fckn steel frame. How do they think you can work on these entire day. It's impossible. Convincing and reassuring feeling. How about for a pro market to focus on having convincing sound and ergonomics. Don't get me wrong it sounds incredible, it's a godsend for m&m. But ffs, why make a fashion piece out of a working horse. So dumb

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  6 місяців тому

      It's not a working horse for an 8 hour session - it's the final 10% stuff - f. ex. I do some mastering work on them, and 1/2 hour is all I need. Then I take a break . No cans should be worn 8 hours a day - unless it's for some commercial application, builders, or radio hosts or such. Ears fatigue well before your neck muscles will.

  • @jodlex_music
    @jodlex_music Рік тому +1

    Hi, what about LCD 5? Am I going to buy LCD 5 together with SPL Phonitor 2, or is Phonitor XE better? How do you think this pair will work for songwriting, mixing, mastering? P.S: Don't offer me MM-500, I want exactly LCD 5

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      Phonitor 2 which is for professional studio use, I recommend that. XE is more for audiophile listening and is also more expensive. Will do well with the LCD5.

    • @jodlex_music
      @jodlex_music Рік тому

      Thanks! @@massivebeatzz

  • @VST2323
    @VST2323 Рік тому +1

    are these the ultimate headphones for mixing?

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому

      for me, yes. But keep in mind, I have tested a lot of headphones, but there are still some out there I haven't had a chance to test. But they are very good, and you hear it immediately.

    • @VST2323
      @VST2323 Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz ok thanks im going to buy them

  • @mauriziomauricone
    @mauriziomauricone Рік тому

    Mr. Marroquin could buy any high end headphone in the world. Why would he bother with a mid tier “$1600” headphone? This is just marketing folks. PS I do own the LCD-X ‘21 and an OG HD600 for what it’s worth…

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +3

      It is $1800 with tax and 2100 Euro - this isn't mid tier - that is pretty expensive. He also designed THIS headphone personally- why would he use a headphone someone else designed if he can do his own. He knows what he needs.The only other headphone from Audeze that is similar is the LCD5, which is more than 2x the price, and not necessarily better for pro mixing engineers. The LCDX and the 600 are great, I know them well, but nowhere near this.

  • @vincecrow4512
    @vincecrow4512 Рік тому

    Does anybody have any experience with using these with the SPL amp’s crossfeed? And that vs Realphones? And both of those vs the headphones by themselves?

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      I use Realphones as you may have seen. It sounds spectacular. I use just a tiny bit - not 100% correction and not 100% ambience - but about 0% to 30% on correction (depending on what I am checking) , and 15-40% ambient (room, so that is your crossfeed). It just extends the low end a bit more , while keeping it super clean, and make it more realistic to speakers. As for the SPL, when we tested at Larrabee, the crossfeed was turned off, but it sounded fantastic still - better than what my headphone amps are doing. On paper these headphones are easy to drive, but that combo is magic. Probably that is why Audeze likes to use them to demo things.

  • @john-martinson
    @john-martinson 10 місяців тому

    Hi! Have you tried to compare them with Sennheiser HD 800s? They have the best sound stage of all the audeze I listened to…

  • @partlysimpson5154
    @partlysimpson5154 9 місяців тому

    I wonder if u can do some mix on these and not checking on monitors at all and to listen back how it sounds haha

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  9 місяців тому

      I think you certainly can once you get used to them. If you check on monitor in the beginning, and realize that results translate consistently for you, then I see no issue with this.

  • @StevInnmusic
    @StevInnmusic Рік тому

    Hello, may I ask you, did Manny Marroquin himself use headphone amp to push mm500? Or was he directly using the interface/console headphone output??
    Thank you!!!!

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +2

      He usually does not , he said. He is using his laptop's output (MacBook pro). We talked about that. He seems pretty happy the way it is.

    • @StevInnmusic
      @StevInnmusic Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz I try plugging to mac directly, wow is amazing!!!! cleaner than plugging to apollo twin,Apollo’s headphone amp was sound some muddy frequencies and limit the dynamics , thanks for your information!!!! 🙏🙏

    • @Lishkabro
      @Lishkabro Рік тому +1

      ​@@StevInnmusicstop the 🧢 😑

  • @djlinusmunich
    @djlinusmunich Рік тому

    Top! I use them every day - together with Subpac i don‘t need a room actually - which i have, but i am free now to work where ever 🎉

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for sharing! Great combo. I had the subpac, and have been waiting for the new model forever.

    • @djlinusmunich
      @djlinusmunich Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz me too, I have the old one, ordered the V2 last year April, but they have major issues withe the transducers - but still, it's worth waiting, as the price has gone up dramatically for any new pre-orders. And we will get the new state of the art body sub ;)))

    • @hummarstraful
      @hummarstraful 2 місяці тому

      Over time have you found the translation to outside systems to be consistent?

  • @Yawsounds
    @Yawsounds Рік тому

    Great video! I have a similar setup minus the headphone amp and dac. What would you recommend for a headphone amp? I’ve been looking at the spl phonitor xe, 2, one d and neve amp as well. Is the phonitor overkill for mixing and mastering? (So many questions 😅) Any input would be a great help. Thanks

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      In theory the MM's are easy to drive. But I must say, the SPL I tried them with sounded absolutely fantastic. Does it sound 5 x more fantastic than my Topping? No - and specs wise it shouldnt be that much better. Hard to put the finger on it, but I'd say the Topping product lines are great also, for a lot less money. Grace and Little Labs Monotor as well as NeveHeadphone amps are all pretty good as well. I'd go: SPL>Grace>Topping>Monotor etc. The RME Headphone amp of my Babyface Pro FS is also very good. Here's a Topping review, along with comparisons. This guy is really good at measuring stuff - www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dx3-pro-review-dac-headphone-amp.27148/

    • @Yawsounds
      @Yawsounds Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz Ok great, I’ll be checking out Topping. Thanks for the information.

  • @ctatrains
    @ctatrains Рік тому

    Just finished my first cue with these. Wa using my Sennheiser 660s but these take it to a whole new level. Running through RME Fireface ICX II and Sonarworks SoundID.Translation is near perfect to my ears.

  • @r2d2romo1
    @r2d2romo1 6 місяців тому

    Hola, he buscado reseñas que hagan algún comparativo entre mm-100 vs lcd-1 vs lcd-2 vs sennheiser HD 600... Probablemente ya hayan pasado por tus manos todos ellos. Tengo un presupuesto limitado, pero me gustaría saber tu opinión al respecto. 😊

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  6 місяців тому +1

      Hola, esa es una buena pregunta. He tenido el HD-600 durante mucho tiempo y son en cierto modo similares al MM-500. Y el MM-100 también ha sido diseñado para ser similar al MM-500, con, por supuesto, algunas limitaciones. No puedes equivocarte con el Sennheiser HD-600, pero como el precio es casi el mismo, probablemente recomendaría el MM-100. - Los probé en la feria NAMM de 2023 y 2024, pero aún no los he probado oficialmente. Con suerte, Audeze me enviará un par pronto para revisar. Además, el HD600 necesita un amplificador más potente, el MM100 no. Recomiendo usar el software llamado "realphones" con ambos auriculares. Excelente para un poco más de frecuencia de graves y tono ambiental.

    • @r2d2romo1
      @r2d2romo1 6 місяців тому

      @@massivebeatzz ¿ayudaría usar EQ en los Sennheiser HD 600 para cubrir todo el registro de 20 Hz a 20 Khz? ¿Pueden llegar a distorsionar si se incrementa su región de graves y subgraves?. He visto en un portal llamado SQUIGLINK que al hacerle EQ al HD 600, usando una curva de Campo difuso o la Harman lineal de 2018, podría tener un muy buen comportamiento ¿realmente se podría lograr o sólo lo empeoraría?

    • @abletonflow4673
      @abletonflow4673 Місяць тому +1

      Ni se te ocurra comprar el MM100, tengo LCD X 2021 y NEUMANN NDH 30. El dia de hoy recibi un MM100 Nuevo. hice las pruebas necesarias y Creo que optaría por el Nuevo Sennheiser HD 490 PRO. Ya que dice por ahi que es muy parecido al NDH 30 y si puedes el NDH 30 mejor. Comprobado

    • @r2d2romo1
      @r2d2romo1 Місяць тому

      @@abletonflow4673 que bárbaro, gracias. Justo hoy estaba nuevamente mirando los beyerdynamic dt 900 pro x jaja, después de 4 meses, me di a la tarea de hacer páneles acústicos (12 en total), aunque aún no estoy convencido de la acústica. Buscaré los Sennheiser que mencionas, tengo mucha curiosidad de cómo suenan inclusive los hd600.

  • @VST2323
    @VST2323 Рік тому

    WHATS THAT LFU PROGRAM YOU USING?

  • @sweetumsll2367
    @sweetumsll2367 Рік тому

    Afternoon

  • @joeyf808
    @joeyf808 Рік тому

    Did you have to break them in ?

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      Physically for sure. Sound wise, not a whole lot.

  • @partlysimpson5154
    @partlysimpson5154 Рік тому

    What about production? If one has no speakers at all?

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      definitely doable, since they are accurate and just sound great. I would maybe EQ them during production with a bit more top end and low end, to feel a bit of that excitement, and therefor you won't overcompensate with sound choices.

    • @partlysimpson5154
      @partlysimpson5154 Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz expensive tooo lol, maybe ill wait some time, price may drop

  • @tommymai3062
    @tommymai3062 Рік тому

    Have you tried focal clear mg pro ? How does it compare to these audeze

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому

      I haven't. As far as I know they are dynamic, not Planar - would be interesting to test drive.

    • @ChrisKeyman
      @ChrisKeyman 11 місяців тому

      ​@@massivebeatzz what about the neumann ndh30?

  • @anatol1204
    @anatol1204 Рік тому

    I saw the graph Isn the 3khz pick too much ?

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому

      That is how he gets his vocal / lead instrument clarity I think.

    • @ChrisKeyman
      @ChrisKeyman 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@massivebeatzz yes but other people who will listen the song will not have this 3khz peak on their systems .
      So it will sound dark to them . Not only the vocals but the whole mix.

    • @anatol1204
      @anatol1204 11 місяців тому

      @@ChrisKeyman Yes but is it a good thing not to be close to what the other people will hear in general ?I have read many threads and there is a constant battle between headphones the " too bright or too dark " thing..At the end my solution I think will be buying a studio headphone and a famous Harman Cardon one

  • @sweetumsll2367
    @sweetumsll2367 Рік тому

    Ardfoyle

  • @jzg7890
    @jzg7890 Рік тому +1

    I love these headphones! Perfect for mixing and mastering.
    I tried to eq them with realphones but i just can’t seem to make them better with it so i use it without now

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +1

      Right on man !Manny doesn't use anything either he told me.

  • @FierceLeo.
    @FierceLeo. Рік тому

    Which one is a better headphone to mix on Hedd Heddphone , Hifiman He 1000se, or Audeze MM 500? Which has the most clarity and better reveals detail across the whole frequency spectrum? I am a music producer.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому

      I have not tested the Hedds when they came out. I would guess the MM500s from what I am hearing from people who tested both, but I'd really like to do a test myself. I really like HEDD speakers.

    • @FierceLeo.
      @FierceLeo. Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz If MM 500s are the best, then why does the Lcd5, CRBN and MX4 still exist as true reference headphonese. Obvisouly MM 500s are mid tier. Marketing gimmicks. If any one had 3k to 4k to spend they would get the top of line an skip the middle right? So Ill weight until my funds are good to get the He1000se as my true reference, they are light and very revealing, . What you think?

    • @FierceLeo.
      @FierceLeo. Рік тому

      @@salut9658 heddphone is to warm and boxy, I heard it recently, it does not suit the music engineering market as it was marketed for, no way . I went and got the focal clear mg pro and Stax l700

  • @levondarratt787
    @levondarratt787 Рік тому +3

    Fantastic unit - thanks for the review!

  • @Macaroni108
    @Macaroni108 Рік тому

    Sorry, but Slate's VSX is on another level from even these headphones.

    • @massivebeatzz
      @massivebeatzz  Рік тому +3

      I don't think a 300 dollar slate would come close to Manny Marroquin and realphones - but if this works best for you - then that counts more than any review.

    • @Macaroni108
      @Macaroni108 Рік тому

      @@massivebeatzz Sorry but you are very wrong, and implying that Slate is perhaps cheap @ $300 is a low blow.
      Realphones, even with Audeze, is absolutely not in the same league as VSX v4. I've got the LCD-1 and Realphones.
      Plus, how many people are going to pay that much for the Audeze? It's a boutique product. Even pros who can afford it are into VSX.