Bad Cycling Habits to Avoid | How to Stay Comfortable on the Bike
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
- Good technique on the bike is important for comfort, performance and injury prevention while cycling. Bad habits can develop over time, stemming from poor position, incorrect bike fit and imbalances in the body. Conor and Manon talk to specialist cycling physio Bryan McCullough about some of the most common bad habits picked up by cyclists and how to avoid them in your own riding!
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What bad habits do you see out on the road? Let us know in the comments!
#GCN I'll confess my bad habit is not stretching nearly enough.
Well, today I ate Meatballs. Now I'm hungry 😐
I'm not surprised Cranky Goblinitis is first on your list and it's an ailment I suffer from occasionally. 😅
I tend to use the drops against strong headwinds, otherwise I use the tops.
My bad habit number one: eating ever 5 minutes a cookie... (they add up fast)
Alot of people have a really high seat (I used to have one too)
"Cranky Goblin": Froome's normal climbing style.
Thought that exact thing!
Beat me to it.
Isn't this the position GCN bang on about as being more aero?
I was just thinking she was doing a Froome imitation!
Some people don't like him, but I think Durianrider said it best... "Like a praying mantis attacking a coat hanger." 😆
You are cycling my commuting roads, it is so weird seeing them on telly! Good vid guys.
UA-cam being called the “telly” - hehe.
@@thehandleiwantedwasntavailable i have my laptop connected to my tv too though, so actually it´s "on tv" :P
Bad habit: loose helmet straps, Conor!
My straps are soooo loose, the helmet is not even on my head....it is on the shelf at the store...LOL
He's got to account for that cone head.
To be fair as a guy, when i stick my knee out it's because i need to get myself out of 'sticky situations'..
The ole sitting on the sack problem hehe
That sounds like you enjoy your cycling a little *too* much...
😂
One tip that works quite well for me to reduce hunching is to move my elbows closer to my body instead of assuming my standard mtb position :)
good tip!
Training for a 4,000 km ride across Australia. Thank you for these tips
"I BEG YOUR PARDONN?!?!? "
- Manon Lloyd
keep begging
lol , if we don't see Connor for a few videos , we can assume he had ' an unfortunate riding accident '
@william nguyen 11:34
I am wondering. Did the film crew know Manon was going to sit on Conor's bike? What size of ladder did they need to bring to the shoot if they did?
They took a cherry picker 😉
😂
GCN presenters should try tall bikes, that's probably the only type of bike that has never tested in GCN show.
@@fredrik-c Incredible!
I can't believe we didn't get a blooper shot of her trying to get up there.
Bobbing up and down (The Chicken) is a good one. Normaly when climbing hills you seee this
Yes but we can see some of the last twenty years of cycling greats in the pack doing the chick move. Who was the one who stuck his tongue .... Thomas Voeckler
I’m not sure Alberto Contador would consider his climbing style to be a bad habit.
@@zzhughesd but they're pushing 500w+ if it helps them hold that power, they do it.
It's fine while hill climbing.
Loved Mannon styling it up to over emphasise all the faults 😂
I love these videos, GCN Team! Keep rolling them out, I always go to you for cycling advice!
Great to see Bryan on the channel thanks for the great insights and tips. Keep these types of video coming - so useful .
Manon sitting on Connors bike is just the type of adorable that can turn a bad day around.
That's sexist.
@@wyattchoia2473 nah its sizist
@@wyattchoia2473 what?
@@wyattchoia2473 how is that sexist?
@@dtrjones Manon is Sexy as AF
Always on point with the content! Literally have a questions after a ride, and GCN has the answers! Much thanks!
Great video guys! Really useful tips on problems to look out for and I thought Bryan's explanations were excellent - more from him please!
My bike is currently at the bike shop getting tuned, I am starting again after 2.5 years. Till I get my bike back , watching and learning as much as possible . Thanks for soooooo many tips guys, you guys are phenomenal ......
Great video! Need more like this, paired with the scientific expertise of Bryan
I have always found the knee flick at the top of the stroke is caused by the "cake to mouth" ratio....
Looking at this just list off all my bad habbits just made me want to get out there and actively fix them. Great video! Thanks for pointing out the not so obvious, really does help allot.
A good one. Very informative and good advise. Thank you
Thanks guys I love you all it's always a pleasure to watch your videos ☺️☺️☺️
Love your channel and learning a lot. I bought a new bike for the first time in over 30 years last Thursday and this channel was the one I watched the most to get advice. The timing of this subject was well timed as I’m lying on my back with a very sore very sore neck and upper back. Going to give it some rest, consult my bike shop about my seat position, strengthen my arms/shoulders and go back out there! Thank you and keep it up!
yeah they have so much good stuff. I also recommend subscribing to their MTB & EMTB channels even if you don't DO those types of riding because it gives you a broader knowledge pool... for example, many of the techniques used for MTB to maintain traction on a loose trail or in a climb can be used by a road cyclist in the winter or when riding a dirt bike path. also most of the mechanical tips apply to any bike but the MTB crowd sees a bit more extreme issues. Probably my best advice if you ride where it snows and plan to cyclo-commute in it, is to invest in 45Nrth gear. they won't talk about that company's products on these channels, because that company isn't a sponsor, but it's the only company that I know of that actually makes gear for Sub-0°F cycling. Most of the gear that you see from other companies that's rated for zero degrees is rated for zero degrees CELSIUS -which is of course only 32°F, that said I've taken 0°C rated cycling shoes down to 19°F (-7°C) before my toes started getting numb, but still better to have the right tool for the job, and 45Nrth sells boots that are warm down to -20°F (-30°C) and fast rolling studded snow tires (although the studs only help on ice not so much on churned up driven over snow)
Loving the raunchy background jazz music 😂🎺🎺🎶
Especially at the wonky saddle part 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻
Hand numbness from holding on too tight
Perfect riding background music😄
When I had my bike fit done, they raised my saddle by about 3". Afterwards, it was like I was walking up climbs. But a couple of days in and entire new groups of muscles were hurting!
Thanks fir another great tips, it really helps.
Great job guys! Well said.
Great video, not just a "you're doing it all wrong video", gives an idea how to fix it properly
such a great video idea! I'm worried I'm going to fall into some bad habits from training mostly indoors.
I battle flicking my right knee out to avoid arthritis pain. To avoid aero drag and pick up more speed I have to tolerate the pain to keep that leg pedaling in the verticle position. This started happening in 50s. I'm half way around the claendar to my 69th birthday. When I can get across the pond again, I'll be looking to barrow one of Conner's bikes! :)
Great to see support for heavy lifting. Deadlift is awesome and it's what winter is for
Thank you, good job.
My issue it was problem numer 1. I have big pains on the shoulder,etc . Now its me clear why :-) , and how to prevent it. Thank you ...
Love your awesome video. GCN
Ollie when sprinting out of the saddle looks like he is flossing on the bike! Really helpful video, it’s pointed out a few of mine that I didn’t realise I had!
Jayzus! I see all of those bad habits in myself. Especially when on a perticularly long ride.
When I’m exhausted, my body starts shifting side to side like I’m about to win a TdF stage
Every time
same
Great Tips!
New to cycling (other than commuting) and loving the videos. Is there a video for what rotation someone's pelvis should be (i.e. back arched or curved) in order to cycle efficiently and maintain comfort. Thanks
Great advise
I sit "wonky" intentionally sometimes, trading cheeks if you will. I find it relieves fatigue.
Very helpful.👍👍👍👏👏
Awesome video I ride on the tops a lot I will fix that
As soon as I hear Manons voice I know I'm in for the whole video!
Mannon's all black Dogma F12 🤩🤩🤩
Manon, your bike looks great👍
Nice video. Feel sorry for the cameraman that has to keep Manon and Conor in the same frame!
I'm certainly guilty of riding on the hoods a lot. I find it easier to relax my elbows and absorb some of the road shocks this way.
I wish the roads around where I live were as smooth as the ones you were filming on.
Get rowing to strengthen posterior chain muscles......good alternative when weather / winter makes cycling iffy.
that’s my house right there..love you guys
If you find it hard to ride on the drops, rotate the pelvis forward so as to maintain the lower back relatively flat. It may feel like you are in a but of lumbar extension at first (back arched backwards), but it will open up the upper chest and give you a more relaxed upper body. This newer position may require a saddle adjustment, namely saddle angle and setback. Hamstring flexibility is very important!
True on all accounts.
Excellent ❤😊
Love Manon's BoB Dogma F12!
Manon has a new bike and it looks fabulous
I like the voice and accent of Manon so much.
Thanks for the video, but an arm supported row won't work your posterior chain much, I imagine he meant a barbell row: where your back extensors, hamstrings, and glutes work together to support you rather than a bench.
yeh bent over row with bar or dumbbells definitely a better option for full posterior chain work
@@thebikethebody thanks for the clarification!
@@thebikethebody You seem to know your stuff just by having my seat. I have a sensitive behind and I am not claiming to have the child producing department of an ox but that Selle SMP seat even without any padding on the carbon other than the leather cover is the comfiest I have ever had. Being normal in the nutty department I do not need to ride my TT bike to feel a flat tipped saddle seat level on marathon rides or heaven forbid any nose up tilt on anything more than a few kms. The great thing about the Selle SMP seats is the saddle rail extending way farther than most. Having multiple arm injuries i need my Redshift damped stem and they make them too long for my comfort. Helping aero though. Adding a seat that goes more forward than any other created a comfy yet quite good compromise in aero position for me increasing my leg power output. Even though I have ridden a TT bike for years two of them as my primary bike. Ask me how I know about pain in the balls sitting on the seat tip of a used bike that is slightly too large for me but I got it cheap. The same goes for the road bike that got perfect with the Redshift/Selle SMP combo. I cannot complain about the size since I got a great fit eventually with money considering the bike is a steal (No I bought it in a shop that bought it from Ridley factory). And the bike in the previous 10 gear version took 4th in GC at the TDF. So I got a non abused by a pro bike built for a world tour team cheap and had the money and options to make it suitable for an injured rider... Hooray Ridley, Redshift and Selle SMP. But also physios, doctors, GCN and other sources of information that helped me learn how to make my fit great with good shock absorption with 28 mm tires that is the maximum the frame takes. Pushing on break the tire clearance ahem. Oh well you cannot have everything.
@@JanneRasanen2 yeh i'm a huge fan of the Selle SMP saddle range. They are one of the only saddle manufacturers who seem open to considering that not everyone has a flat shaped ischiopubic ramus (the bit of your pelvis most of us sit on in front of the sit bones) and as a result they are often the eureka saddle moment for many who have gone through many flat / kicked saddles with little success. my full carbon / no cover SMP is on my turbo and about the most comfortable seat I have - just not great out on rough UK roads!!
@@thebikethebody Finnish asphalt cracks and bumps and occasionally creates pot holes from the freezing and thawing cycle. Which is a result of the harsher winter than in the UK. One needs a good chamois to help and a dense one at that with some thickness. No way I could ride here without a good chamois. My best results are with Castelli Kiss Air chamois.
Manon riding blackout F12, niceeeee!
So nice video i love cycling
When I'm tired I definitely use to hunch my shoulders on my bike (and start to grip the handlebar tightly).
Love the colour scheme on Conors bike. Irish flag from front view!
You're expecting me to believe that my routine of dancing about like an invisible fencer is trying to stab me, is not helping get to the top of hills?
The Saddle height will depends of course of the bicycle. In my case, I have a Trail double suspension and is tall, really tall, including me (6'2).
The thumbnail is hilarious 😆
riding snake lines when off the saddle...
Manon’s bike in this video is gorgeous. What make/model is it?
great video by GCN again, one area of concern is your presenters are wearing all black in this video, this does not promote cyclist to wear bright colours for better visibility to other road users....
Best way to stay comfortable in the winter is to stay in.
Today I found out that I have all of the bad habits. Excellent ☺️
I’m peepin that F12 Manon 👍🏽 that shit is badass.
Hiya thanks for the great video.
Very helpful I am in a great need of a bike fit.
For example my saddle is literally bend. I can see it from the back of it.
I don't think though it has to do anything with the saddle length but my body imbalance.
Is there please a way of getting a professional support?
Like booking a bike fitting session?
hunching is the result of curving the spine on the bike , yoga helps a lot like doing sun salutation .It bring body awareness on the spine . Mobilizing and strengthening the spine is the key for a more fluid and dynamic pedaling.
So “myself and Manon actually called it the angry goblin look” means Conor called Manon an angry goblin. Got it. 😂
I am 14yrs and I ride in sunday 5miles in the street and montains its so fun
I get Angry Goblin on a flat bar but not on a drop bar, which is why I find the hoods and the drops more comfortable that a flat bar bike.
I could use some help with being at a stop and then having to get up an incline when using clip in (clipless). A video on helpful tips and strategies would appreciated.
I am guilty of this but trying to change this, having all black cycling kit, looks good when it is bright outside but, in the mornings, or evenings you are hard to see. I know you can get reflective material but choose light coloured cloth!
to be honest, I consciously flick my knees as a sort of banking maneuver to avoid gnarly spots on the road instead of using my hips for the same action.
how about numbness in fingers? great video!
Getting weight off the hands can help or at least alleviate the problem. Higher handle bars and possibly a shorter stem. Using gloves may help or changing gloves. Different density padding may help to some degree. Stiffer or softer padding. Too soft a padding may compress against the handle bar creating a spot in the hands where the pressure increases due to smaller area that supports your weight and squashing the nerves and blood vessels. I read a doctor saying that most often pains come from a lack of oxygen in tissues so squashing blood vessels with too mushy gloves does not help. Maybe changing to a flat top bar would help because it has a larger contact area and they tend to flex some absorbing some of the bumps. Alternatively you can do what I did to a round tube handle bar and apply handle bar tape off round creating a flatter top. Adding a piece damping material in front of and to the back of the handle bar before wrapping the bar tape help a lot. Just make sure that the additional pieces are at the height of the highest part of the handle bar. This works best for in between the grips climbing position. Which shortens your saddle to arms distance making you more upright shifting the weight to the saddle and pedals from the arms so a win ii two ways. Well the torso is less aero even though the arms do make a smaller area. Overall this is a less aero position but the same is true of hands on the hoods with a shorter higher stem except your arms catch more wind than by holding the arms narrower together in the bar.
riding on the hoods is more aero since you reduce the frontal area of your arms. Riding on the drops will only give an advantage if it results in dropping your torso. But you don't need to ride on the drops to assume a more downward position per se, you can do the same on the hoods,
the first few seconds when someone rides out the saddle and they slow up causing someone on their wheel to swerve
Agreed. Its a bunch ride killer and certainly the cause of a few arguments over the years
Do a poll on how much your bike costs, see how many people have top end bikes or whether the majority of us have ‘normal’ ones
Early!!!! Great choices
That wahoo beep at 9:14!!! Gosh, I thought mine had woke up out of nowhere!!
removing rounded bolts can be done with a bolt remover bit with a drill. the bit cuts into the bolt gripping it and can be then removed. done this with my top cap bolt twice now where i have i rounded it :(
Merxx was all over the bike climbing seated. He also was famous for fiddling with saddle height constantly. This didn't make him slow.
0:37 aka the Chris Froome Position
word
I used to be too lazy to use the drops even when going hown hill until i slammed hard against a pole. I was going down a steep descent (about -19%) when i got the the bottom, i wasnt able to make the turn because i was riding down too fast and i could not pull the breaks efficiently with my hands on the hoods. So i lost control and instead of going right i went staight on a curve toward a pole. Most stupid 10 seconds of my life.
You are lucky to have more seconds after that!
There are a lot of them but my obvious bad habit is the Cranky Goblin when I do climbs or when I push hard on flats , Im too lazy on the drops honestly LOL! >: )
How ironic the first one is shoulders.... Saw an ortho 2 weeks ago for shoulder impingement caused by my shoulder position, now in PT for 6 weeks
The thing about the knee flip that many thin riders don't get is that sometimes a rider's weight affects this. If a rider has a large belly, this can make it uncomfortable to have your knee come straight up into your belly.
Great video. I have a question... my friends pick on me because i DO NOT RIDE ON THE HOODS. Is it bad to ride mostly on the drops?
What's a saddle-knee angle? Please provide a picture with lines and the angle in question. Only a side on shot is too confusing
Genuinely the most informative video I think you’ve done. Can you go deeper into this to look at other issues such as numb toes and how different shoes and even different shorts can affect fit and efficiency...
Numb toes can come from a variety of reasons. Too cold, too tight shoe/sock combo or squashing of nerves and blood vessels. No blood circulating>lack of oxygen=pains according to a doctor. Cleats forward especially on flexy bottom shoes tend to press nerves and blood vessels between the balls of the feet so some may get help from moving the cleats back as far as possible. Some ultra endurance riders make new cleat attachment points in the middle of the soles. Very stiff soles such as some carbon soles do reduce the cleat pushing up into the foot because the pressure divides into a larger area and by preventing the cleat tilting so no edges dig into to foot. Too tight shoes/socks constrict blood vessels again depriving tissues of oxygen and nutrients minimizing flushing of waste products that occur normally and heightened by physical exertion.
I have hand issues. Gripping too tight or sitting too far forward. Will try some of these suggestions.
Try and not grip so hard, double wrap bars with bar tape and wear gloves, try sitting further back or if that's not possible at moment move saddle further back on rails.
I've been having similar issues, and it turned out that, as well as what Ricky recommended, that I was putting too much weight on my hands from leaning on the handlebars. It turns out that handlebars are just to steer the bike, and you shouldn't be leaning on them at all. I'm working on building my core strength so that i can balance and pedal without needing to lean forward. I never had these issues with my old retro style cruiser (and I went bike packing with it for a week once) so it might help to raise the handlebars so that you're in a bit more upright position too.
If you find yourself sliding forward all the time, take a look at your saddle tilt angle. If it points downward, gravity will always be forcing you forward onto the bars, increasing pressure on your hands. I had this problem for a while and finally solved it by getting a better saddle (with a cut-out) and leveling it off.
Half wheeling someone on a group ride and mashing too big of a gear...guilty on both as bad habits I am trying to break.
I wish someone had mentioned the pectoral muscles (chest) when talking about hunched shoulders!
The pectorals are really strong, and a lot of our daily activities (like hunching over a computer or phone) allow them to overpower our back muscles. Building the muscles of the upper back is good, but stretching the pectorals is crucial and easily done.
I’ve had clients greatly reduce hunched back by doing this exercise: stand in the center of a doorway with arms raised & bent like a goal post (think American football) or a trident. Placing the lower arms (the goal uprights) on the door jamb, lean forward just until there’s a stretch across the chest. Hold for 20 seconds, then repeat. The best thing is that this could be done whenever you’re going through a doorway (as long as no one’s behind you)
As a disc golfer that needs maximum mobility of the pecs for all throwing lines I would like to add that it helps a ton to do this stretch having the arm at all heights lot to high. You get much better results than holding the upper arm horizontal only.
That’s true; I didn’t want to put too much into one post, but that’s a good point and is what I have clients do (and do myself).
@@llamasugar5478 yep a nice bit of pec mobility is a lovely one to throw in there, especially post ride!
I've subscribed to your channel after UA-cam kept feeding me your videos - I promise it's not because of the lovely Manon! Crumbs I don't even own a real bike.
Still, I do have a Wattbike on order. What bike you say... Wattbike... yeah so what bike... WATTBIKE..., I know WHAT BIKE. That's what I said WATTBIKE!!!
Having come to road cycling from enduro biking (adding it, not replacing), I don't experience most of the bad movement habits. My bet is that it's because I keep riding on flat pedals (call me inefficient if you like), which unlike the clipless ones won't hold you to the bike so you need to get used to staying in line with it. Won't that be a good start? (please don't kill me)
You forget straight or locked arms. I see it all the time when I'm out riding. Bend you elbows, nomatter if it's a road, an urban cruiser, or a mtn bike.
My left leg is absolutely longer. I'm currently trying to dial in a new set of cleats/bike shoes and it is so apparent
Wrong cadence. My wife wondered why her knees were hurting, until I saw that she was grinding out a much too low cadence.
Good to know..
Can you please tell my wife also because she never listen to me...🙄
Ive seen same thing and its mostly with women for some reason. Once saw such big grinding that legs literally were bending outward and inward, no linear circular motion at all.
which probably means she's applying the right amount of power but in the "wrong gear"