The River Medlock Episode X. The disappearing River

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2019
  • You join me on a journey following Manchester's River Medlock through the city centre on an urbex , urban exploring mission. This is episode X and we follow the river to Knott Mill in Manchester where the river disappears underneath the Castlefield area. Diverted away from the Bridgewater canal. The Medlock in the Victorian era became too polluted to supply water to the Canal so the Rochdale canal supplied water to the Bridgewater canal. We start off in a river culvert exploring and wading along the river. We finish off in the rain loooking at the swollen river and admiring the canal architecture and James Brindley's engineering in particular the River Weir at Knott Mill.
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  • @28YorkshireRose12
    @28YorkshireRose12 4 роки тому +150

    I wonder when was the last time the waterman came down those steps and turned that mechanism. . . I wonder how his redundancy was announced, and what was the justification for terminating a job that had been so important for so long.
    It's utterly amazing just how much history is hidden, even lost, beneath our streets, or for that matter, on the surface. It's also very sad to think of the workmanship and expertise that went into making these places, and even sadder, the inevitable loss of life that was so commonplace in centuries passed, only for all that effort to be abandoned and left to wrack and ruin. . . I wonder what those men would think of it now, if they could see what became of their efforts.
    Thought provoking videos, Martin. Very well done, thank you.

    • @Stop..carry-on
      @Stop..carry-on 4 роки тому +6

      28YorkshireRose12 I thought exactly the same when you see the difference, what would the old boys say? Regarding the manned station I think they just removed all restrictions in the river at the station and said good enough

    • @updy
      @updy 4 роки тому +9

      28YorkshireRose12 you couldn’t have said it better

    • @pollyfoofoo8703
      @pollyfoofoo8703 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed

    • @knowlesy3915
      @knowlesy3915 4 роки тому +9

      It is very sad but also many things are just not needed to be manned anymore. Its also sad though when you see an old photo of say a train stn & its clean, with flowers & now, graffiti weeds & p*ss.

    • @TheFjmtb
      @TheFjmtb 4 роки тому +7

      So my office is on the right, just before the syphon. Have worked there 11 years and have seen people down on the gate quite frequently. Admittedly they don’t sit in that little hut anymore, and probably haven’t since we developed modern methods of river monitoring. However when the medlock is in flood is still needs regulating

  • @hullhistorynerd
    @hullhistorynerd 4 роки тому +46

    One of the things that gives me that weird feeling of the hairs raising on the back of my neck is seeing those long buried bridges still there, under the city, still crossing the river. Another fantastic video! I can see you really suffered for your art in this one!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +6

      I suffered in those last two Culverts 😃 Yes those bridges are a wow

  • @Tobeshadow
    @Tobeshadow 4 роки тому +62

    Fascinating stuff...That siphon is bloody terrifying at full flow!

    • @derek-press
      @derek-press 4 роки тому +4

      @Xtra Spice Mikey I would think you would definitely be dragged under

    • @Tobeshadow
      @Tobeshadow 4 роки тому +4

      @Xtra Spice Mikey One hundred percent!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +5

      Yeah, it would suck you in

    • @harrisonread133
      @harrisonread133 4 роки тому +7

      It would be interesting to see a camera take the ride and see how long it takes to come back up and where.

    • @bryan3550
      @bryan3550 4 роки тому +5

      I'm intrigued by how the siphon would have been built - under the basin! Rather spooky that the basin retaining wall holds that body of still water under the building... Not exactly a sanitary idea.
      The stone siphon portal is a gem of masonry. Have you checked out the outfall where it resumes the river's path?

  • @semajdis
    @semajdis 4 роки тому +50

    Like something Granada would have made once upon a time. This is turning out to be a great body of work. Thanks for all the effort you are putting in (and risk, schlepping through all that crud).

    • @Davethehedgehog
      @Davethehedgehog 4 роки тому +8

      Martin's videos are superb. I've been a fan for ages now, since the Standedge Canal videos and before. These are the kinds of videos they should be showing in local schools to kids to get them excited

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +3

      Cheers, yeah its been an epic journey

    • @megagarrym6318
      @megagarrym6318 4 роки тому

      @@Davethehedgehog I was thinking the same thing whilst watching the video. Martin really should be on the TV with a decent budget and a crew.

    • @kollusion1
      @kollusion1 3 роки тому

      You'll have to change your name to, Martin "The Medi" Zero!

  • @johnvickers5750
    @johnvickers5750 4 роки тому +26

    Excellent vid Martin. The people in the gasworks photo are more likely to be carrying coke which was a by-product left over from the gas production & was much cheaper, usually backed up with cheap coal slack, often used on fires with cast iron ranges in backroom terraced houses. At least thats what I remember from my childhood experience.

    • @spex357
      @spex357 4 роки тому +9

      I remember my Grandma being told to stop using coal for cooking on the range and in the room fires, and use coke instead as we had the 62/3? clean air act.
      You must remember the endless line of smoking terraced house chimneys, the horse and cart bring it in huge sacks. The dung as no one had a garden laid in the road to rot or feed the tufts of grass that grew out from the joints in the sets, which soon went when the car took over. The stench of horse manure as you turned into your street on a summer's day would make your eyes smart. As Coal and pop both came via horse along with the vegman and the rag and bone man it could be like walking through a manure processing plant at times with endless mounds up the road, and now they moan about CO2, Greta says she can taste it but I bet it's not as tasty as a three year old cobs early morning deposit.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks John I realise now it was probably coke

    • @johnvickers5750
      @johnvickers5750 4 роки тому +4

      Martin I can tell you as a child we used to scrabble for coal chucked down the railway embankment from steam locos by firemen who were from our street! In them days neighbors had open door friendships which is sadly missed today.

    • @LittleCarol
      @LittleCarol 4 роки тому +2

      @@johnvickers5750 When you start off with nowt, you don't forget to appreciate what we have now!

  • @b4mouse
    @b4mouse 4 роки тому +13

    Thanks for persevering Martin. The whole Medlock thing has been great viewing, even for a Brummie. Nice to see James Brindley get a mention, a real icon around my parts.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks John yeah he was a very special man Mr Brindley

  • @t0m541
    @t0m541 4 роки тому +29

    Amazing the difference in the river when it's in flood, when you were under the culvert in all the debris I did think that it was surprising that there was such a lot from a small river, in fact the photo from when the syphon was built does show a huge full flood river behind the workers.
    Such a shame that the water and rivers companies let the rivers get so contaminated with rubbish, eventually that syphon will block then the fun will start, especially for those in the apartments just above the water level in the basin.
    Great video Martin, rounds off a rainy Sunday in style...

    • @normathomas8276
      @normathomas8276 4 роки тому +4

      Should never have built those sky scrapers they look awful and totally out of caracter

    • @Pob76
      @Pob76 4 роки тому +2

      Wish the city of Manchester could clean all these kinds of places up . I know they’ve done great work to date, but still a ways to go!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Tom, yes I dont fancy living in a ground floor in those appartments

    • @LittleCarol
      @LittleCarol 4 роки тому +3

      @@MartinZero Why do people think it is ok to keep throwing rubbish into waterways? Where do they expect it to go? My parents played hell with me for dropping a sweet wrapper on the floor outside, even when I meekly picked it up and put it in my pocket, I still got a clout!

  • @Zentron
    @Zentron 4 роки тому +17

    Manchester City Council really needs to sort out the Manchester waterways!
    Also, the history that Manchester has lost is staggering!

    • @extrude22
      @extrude22 4 роки тому +2

      They are not the councils responsibility. Canals are managed by the Canal and Rivers trust and rivers by the Environment agency.

    • @Zentron
      @Zentron 4 роки тому +3

      @@extrude22 Well I guess we need to give them a kick up their collective arses!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah some of these places have changed beyond belief

  • @huddd001
    @huddd001 4 роки тому +18

    There is a lot of general rubbish in the Medlock, (plastic, old tyres and the like) but the water itself is so clean. All thanks to The Clean Water Act.

    • @glengraham7080
      @glengraham7080 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, the litter is quite shameful really. As you say, the water is so much cleaner than no doubt it was a few years ago.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I was very surprised at the cleanliness

  • @Nathan.Manchester
    @Nathan.Manchester 4 роки тому +21

    I'm loving the videos they are well researched and I learn things I didn't know about Manchester 😁

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks very much Nathan. hope your well

  • @harrisonread133
    @harrisonread133 4 роки тому +8

    Great video. Watching you from valley forge Pennsylvania. Keep up the good work.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Harrison many thanks and regards to Valley Forge Pennsylvania 👍

    • @harrisonread133
      @harrisonread133 4 роки тому

      @@MartinZero I have an idea. If you can send a camera in the drainage pit. Maybe interesting to see and maybe you might find something.

  • @bobingram6912
    @bobingram6912 4 роки тому +1

    Please let there be more!!!! Once again you've given us a history filled vid c/w old pics to tie it all in, magic. That siphon stonework just great to see, glad you made it before the floods. As I've said before, 200 years of history at river level and look up 45° and there's a b****y great modern skyscraper being built on that history - amazing. Thanks for your enthusiasm in bringing this to all of us Sunday Medlock followers. 👍👌❤🐝

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks Bob, yes there is more to come

  • @JenniferEKirk
    @JenniferEKirk 4 роки тому +7

    I always look forward to your videos. This one has not disappointed!

  • @ianlainchbury
    @ianlainchbury 4 роки тому +3

    What a shame that siphon mechanism is in such a bad state. A clean up, and copy of the newspaper article would bring history alive at that point! Fascinating video again Martin.

    • @2H80vids
      @2H80vids 4 роки тому +2

      Compared to the many £billions being spent in the area, that would cost pennies to put together. When it comes to the development of that actual bit, they should build that into the agreement. The stonework all looks pretty good; a tidy-up would be a really good start, followed by rebuilding all the machinery. Add a viewing area and a few noticeboards and you'd have an educational visitor attraction. Get Martin on the case.

    • @ianlainchbury
      @ianlainchbury 4 роки тому +1

      @@2H80vids Indeed. Small fry compared to what theyre spending on that building!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you Ian

  • @bendavies8303
    @bendavies8303 4 роки тому +1

    Another brilliant video Martin. It always amazes me the number of times I've driven and walked down these streets without ever knowing what was under my feet.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks Ben. Yeah that lower end of Deansgate hides the Medlock very well

  • @tommelo4270
    @tommelo4270 4 роки тому +6

    Martin, I have never seen anyone who loves their city as much as you love Manchester. This series is truly remarkable. I hope that it will shine for you and give you the accolades that you deserve. It is much more than a documentary, it is a thrilling adventure that is punctuated with your marvelous music. Thank you for taking us on such a beautiful journey.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Tom, yes its turned out to be quite an epic adventure for me. 👍

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 4 роки тому +9

    Ahhh! Yes, just what I need right now. Great music, great explores and the history all with Marks personality. Always caps off my Sunday night, thank you for the upload.

  • @richardbourne7360
    @richardbourne7360 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the great videos Martin. I have really enjoyed the River Medlock series.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks Richard, More Medlock to come

  • @swampthing20
    @swampthing20 4 роки тому +2

    Hearing the Medlock music in a new Sunday night Martin video is just the best thing. Brilliant again mate - thank you. That syphon at full pelt looks scary as hell.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks. Yes it was very scary, certain death

  • @stevegalvin9122
    @stevegalvin9122 4 роки тому +11

    Really enjoyed watching the medlock series. I work in and around Manchester and often peer down to the rivers and wonder, so thanks for shedding some light on the subject. I am really happy there are fish thriving, it just goes to show what assets to the city our rivers would be if they were cleaned up and opened up a bit so you can see them. I live in Stockport and they have opened a small section of river up near little Egerton Street where it flows under the shopping precinct. I also think you should invest in a couple of walkers poles for the next time you are knee deep! Good work.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Steve, We had our brush handles with us 😃Is it the Mersey thats been opened up in Stockport ?

    • @stevegalvin9122
      @stevegalvin9122 4 роки тому +1

      @@MartinZero Yes it is, they have tried to make a feature out of it. It's a lot cleaner than it used to be!

  • @neilvincent5524
    @neilvincent5524 4 роки тому +14

    Yes! Sunday night is Medlock night

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +3

      Oh yes Neil

    • @thecornerplot
      @thecornerplot 4 роки тому +2

      My fellaa just come in said exact same lol .......excited just put it on cant wait martin your bloomin amazing 👍👍😍

    • @jeffreyquinn3820
      @jeffreyquinn3820 4 роки тому +1

      Martin Zero: Walking through Manchester's yuck areas, so we don't have to.

    • @neilvincent5524
      @neilvincent5524 4 роки тому

      Jeffrey Quinn - staring into the jaws of hell so we can do it from the comfort of our own homes!

  • @spex357
    @spex357 4 роки тому +4

    I get to the end and suddenly think, "the sound", I forget your a massager of tones, great work again.

  • @RiojaRoj
    @RiojaRoj 4 роки тому +2

    Another thought provoking and interesting look into our northwest industrial past. Most of it lost to the masses.
    Your work Martin really needs to reach the wider population because you're bringing the industrial revolution to the people who haven't got a clue as the importance of what Manchester and it's people gave this country and the world ! Thanks Roj

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks Roj yeah we certainly find some hidden Gems

  • @Tony-xx2vs
    @Tony-xx2vs 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks Charlie and Martin loved it and learnt a lot without having to get my own feet wet. 😃

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Cheers Tony, we get wet so you dont have to 😆

  • @EveinEden301
    @EveinEden301 4 роки тому +6

    Brilliant as always, have loved this series Martin. 😃

  • @tonymartin1119
    @tonymartin1119 4 роки тому +4

    Well, what an end to this fascinating series about the River Medlock! Great work you guys.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you Tony, not quite the end, we arent at the River Irwell yet. possibly 2 more to come

  • @kollusion1
    @kollusion1 3 роки тому +1

    0:25 Hey, where's all the water gone?
    4:05 Great references on the old aerial pic!
    5:28 We really don't realise how good we have it nowadays.
    8:31 Makes you wonder about the foundations of them things?
    9:37 I'm really impressed with them old photos you find, that tie in with your findings. Must be very time consuming, & at times frustrating.
    It's a real shame, that with all our many, rich & diverse histories, that Cottonopolis isn't better refurbished, maintained, respected, & taught in schools. I don't remember learning any of these great stories in school.
    Great vid as always Mart, love the ladder too! Cheers.

  • @Shrimpmann
    @Shrimpmann 4 роки тому +6

    Me and my friend tried following the river chelt however when we got to the under ground section we both realised we didn’t have torches and had to turn back, but following the river we went passed Waitrose where there is a small waterfall which my friend jumped down just to realise it was above his head shame I hadn’t filmed it.
    Thanks for your videos as they inspire me and my friends to go places we never would have gone before :)

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks very much. Be careful out there 😃👍

  • @alanhunter2051
    @alanhunter2051 4 роки тому +3

    The effort you have put in to the whole river is just amazing. The history under out feet that is hidden from the public is just incredible.

  • @suecordingley538
    @suecordingley538 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks Martin, I’ve enjoyed the River Medlock series 🙂

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you Sue, one or two more to come

  • @richardbidinger2577
    @richardbidinger2577 4 роки тому +1

    One thing I have noticed that the British and Japanese seem to have in common, is epic construction projects that last for generations and are so well constructed, that they can still be used as foundations for more modern things. You guys don't mess around when you build things, and here in the US, we haven't built anything that epic since the turn of last century. Great video, great series, can't wait to see what you do next.

    • @MarkJT1000
      @MarkJT1000 4 роки тому

      We have the Victorians to thank for all this kind of stuff. They had the money and the vision to make these things happen. And everything was really over engineered and stronger more durable than anything we build today.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you Richard. Yes its incredible what they built back then. More Medlock

  • @DawsonsMemes
    @DawsonsMemes 4 роки тому +38

    You don’t realise how many secrets Manchester has of its industrial past

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Incredible isnt it

    • @totherarf
      @totherarf 4 роки тому +1

      The more you know thee more you realise there is to know! A Knowledge Fractal ;0)

  • @stevenholden9520
    @stevenholden9520 4 роки тому +3

    brilliant! thanks Martin. I look forward to every episode.

  • @colin5021
    @colin5021 4 роки тому +20

    Really nicely done Martin - good on ya! Are you going to show us the other end of the siphon?

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +7

      Yes we will be going there Colin

    • @colin5021
      @colin5021 4 роки тому +2

      Excellent! Have fun.

  • @missmerrily4830
    @missmerrily4830 3 роки тому

    What an interesting and nail-biting episode of the Medlock's story! It was so good to be able to see the river in full flow at the end there, by contrast with its mellower mood earlier in the video. On the topic of that photograph of the women with prams, kids and coal sacks, there was an awful coal shortage from the end of WW2 through towards the end of the 1950s. Women and kids often went out scavenging for coal, and the gas works probably provided rich pickings. With almost everyone's home only heated by coal fires, we were all perpetually cold. I have an early memory of being in a phone box with my mum and her crying and begging a coal merchant to spare her 100cwt (hundred-weight) of coal as we were frozen, and she'd often take us outside for a walk, just so it would seem warmer when we came back in. And Dad routinely carried a big bucket on his perambulations around the town, picking up any stray nugget of coal which had been dropped by the lorries that were delivering coal to those lucky enough to get some! A great video. Thank you and thanks for the whole series on the Medlock which has been so fascinating.

  • @catharineholton49
    @catharineholton49 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing engineering.. and amazing and intrepid exploration. Fantastic video. Totally engrossing.. and the difference in the water flow of that siphon was actually scary.!! So well done as usual Martin.

  • @KarlHamilton
    @KarlHamilton 4 роки тому +4

    Always good to see The Haçienda getting a mention ;)

    • @4X4-RADIO
      @4X4-RADIO 4 роки тому

      Top Tune: ua-cam.com/video/dnvf0mwiioY/v-deo.html

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Oh yes. Fac 51

  • @michaelbattman2971
    @michaelbattman2971 4 роки тому +9

    My Dad who is now 89 was at Manchester Grammar during the war. He tells of a day he 'wagged' school to go and watch the gas works burn after they'd been hit by German bombs - probably around 1942/3.

    • @richardbidinger2577
      @richardbidinger2577 4 роки тому +1

      Odd, that I should wonder during the video how Manchester did during WW2, and you gave me the answer right here. I'm from the US, so I wouldn't know right off, but given all the old photos Martin shows us, I was curious. Thank you.

    • @totherarf
      @totherarf 4 роки тому +1

      Well we have the Germans to thank for Piccadilly Gardens ...... Bombs sometimes bring benefits (although I am sure it was not seen that way at the time)!

    • @anneforster510
      @anneforster510 4 роки тому

      @@totherarf Is that right ?? I have seen photos of air raid shelters during the war by the side of what became Piccadilly Gardens . The gardens were built on the site of the old Manchester Infirmary, the sunken part of the gardens was where the basement of the building was. I can't remember reading that it took direct bombing but I stand corrected if this was so.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Wow, that would have been something to see

  • @avaatkinson14
    @avaatkinson14 4 роки тому +1

    Great video Martin, really interesting seeing and hearing the local history of the Medlock and the canals.

  • @BrianReeves2
    @BrianReeves2 3 роки тому

    Martin your excitement is contagious.

  • @delphius1
    @delphius1 4 роки тому +8

    Martin, this was really interesting. Now I can understand the link between the Medlock and the canal. When Castle field flooded back in the Summer I now understand how the Medlock has a direct link to the canal. The river must have been a good 2-3 ft higher even than this video. Hope no Geese were harmed in the making of the video. :-)

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      I would never harm a goose. Wow that would be good to see the river even higher as you say

  • @brianatkin7302
    @brianatkin7302 4 роки тому +3

    Another wonderful and interesting video. That old picture of the women and kids with the prams reminds me of going to Bradford gasworks with my dad in the mid fifties to get sacks of coke to help with the coal for our fire at home, happy days? Not too sure about that as it was blooming cold hence the need for the coke.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks Brian, hard times but good memories

  • @lescampbell4196
    @lescampbell4196 Рік тому

    Got diverted tonight picking the Mrs up from Oxford Rd and passed the syphon and Hotspur Press. You would have no idea all that was next to you, another hidden gem that you have shown us. Well done for finding your holy grail of rivers too

  • @Dazzy84
    @Dazzy84 4 роки тому +2

    Its amazing how rivers and waterways work. Great upload martin. 👌

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Yes fascinating and thanks very much

  • @carlmayne3519
    @carlmayne3519 4 роки тому +4

    You look at those huge towerblocks built right on the banks of the rivers and just wonder how the hell it all doesnt collapse into the river .. some real feats of engineering there, just the river walls themselves ... Your videos are always great to watch - Keep it up!! :D

    • @ronniebiggs4026
      @ronniebiggs4026 4 роки тому +1

      You can bet that the new piled foundation go down another 20foot plus past the old foundations .

    • @Stop..carry-on
      @Stop..carry-on 4 роки тому +2

      Very deep Piled foundations - I believe they keep going till they hit something hard ie bedrock or until the piles are going in so slow they time the amount going in and reference it to inch’s per minute and that would mean it’s ok

    • @ronniebiggs4026
      @ronniebiggs4026 4 роки тому

      Do one Correct dude ,and of course it depends on the type of piling works requested by the Engineers 👍

    • @ronniebiggs4026
      @ronniebiggs4026 4 роки тому

      Wombley Womberly ..I was thinking that myself when I saw all that stinking water just feet from the underside of the steel supporting structures..I have to say I haven’t seen any Rats in Martins videos ,maybe he scares them away with the Manc accent 😂😂👍🐀🐀🐀

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks Carl, yeah thats what I was thinking, right on the bloody edge

  • @robmez
    @robmez 4 роки тому +4

    Saved the best to last Martin, just like that naughty pud at the end of a meal you cant resist, fantastic filming of the river in flood, think you be in big trouble if you fell in their, and again the quality of workmanship used on the weir was incredible , many of these skills are lost forever ,thanks again Martin, keep well

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you Robin, yes that culvert in flood is scary. More Medlock to come

    • @markvanharen9413
      @markvanharen9413 2 роки тому

      @@MartinZero hope so am dying to see where that siphon ends up to or (if its possible ) how it looks from the inside) seen all ur medlock footage

  • @martinjames9250
    @martinjames9250 2 роки тому

    The film of the River Medlock in full flood...... "Oi! Zero! Get down there, ya tart! Give us an action shot!!"
    In all seriousness, Martin. A wonderful series of videos. Keep on keeping on Matey!

  • @danehardinge8801
    @danehardinge8801 3 роки тому

    The entrance to that syphon is beautiful, it should be listed. Great video again.

  • @SuperEmpirical
    @SuperEmpirical 4 роки тому +8

    According to some the first Bessemer ingots were produced at Knott mill, loads of history around there.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      I dont know what they are but it sounds good. Was it a prestigious Iron works then ?

    • @SuperEmpirical
      @SuperEmpirical 4 роки тому

      @@MartinZero The Bessemer process was the first inexpensive method of mass producing steel, A major breakthrough and catalyst in the industrial revolution.
      Here's the wiki link.... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessemer_process

  • @yorkiepudd7404
    @yorkiepudd7404 4 роки тому +6

    Hot damn Martin that was an unexpected end, it just leaves me with more questions. At some point canal side will have been blocked off to build the wall that holds the basin water level up. ignoring all the crap n debris with our northern weather, there has to be times the river does not cope and waters rise to the point, that it must at some rise high enough to overcome the wall and flood the basin. i wonder when that last happened and consequence it has on the basin, i would love to see that flash flooding happen, but more so the whole bug bare i think about is get some teams in and clear out the crap lol
    oh on a different note from a previous cheers for posting the back ground music info - Artist: Aurora B.Polaris Title: Forgotten - downloaded and is a great chillout piece
    As always MARTIN THANKS for your time making & posting great content of History past & present,
    cheers ken

    • @English_Dawn
      @English_Dawn 4 роки тому

      Great video Martin very brave and well-researched and edited again.
      The social dimension was well-illustrated. The women and children with the coal. Churchill to his surprise lost the "Soldiers Election" after the War to Clement Attlee who started Nationalising industries including coal. Rationing was still in force when Churchill returned to power in '50.
      The Brazil Mill with it's belt-driven apparatus was illustrative. ☺
      James Brindley was a self-taught Mill-hand so it's all the more impressive to see his innovations.
      I think the transfer of water from one canal system to another i.e. from the Rochdale Canal to the Bridgwater Canal is by way of a "sough".
      But what do you do with the river? As you saw, it can change into a torrent rapidly and the logistics of the siphon has to cope.
      That very southern tip of Deansgate, beyond Knott Mill and the railway, over the Bridgewater Viaduct is not very well traversed by pedestrians and a lot of the water-engineering hidden. There are not many trendy-bars yet that far south.
      The Council have big plans to redevelop that area what they call the "Southern Gateway" so I hope careful curation takes place of these historic yet practical day-to-day assets takes place.👍
      The

    • @stevenchaloner162
      @stevenchaloner162 4 роки тому +4

      @yorkie pudd it happened this year. i recall the medlock/irwell were overflowing and in turn the canal also broke and flooded the streets of castlefield. and its hapened a few times that i recall. I wouldnt be surprised if it was close to breaching the wall again now with the rain we have had recently.
      edit, i just looked it up and the manchester evening news report was on 29 JUL 2019. guess they didnt make that siphon quite big enough to deal with serious rainfall. it would be interesting to know if the last part of the video where the river was high was the start of the flood that ended up breaching the banks

    • @kazman500
      @kazman500 4 роки тому

      yorkie pudd I’m
      Sure curious where the blue arrow is and where it comes out!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Ken glad you found the music. More to come the journey hasnt finished yet

  • @Gazz_R
    @Gazz_R 4 роки тому

    Another fantastic vid Martin, loved every minute. Take care and have fun.

  • @chriscoalbran1829
    @chriscoalbran1829 4 роки тому

    I have watched them all very interesting keep them coming.

  • @debbiepitcher9806
    @debbiepitcher9806 4 роки тому +4

    The medlock finished? Feel rather sad ☹️. Hopefully for a different part of Manchester or something that links into one of the rivers? Thank you again for yet another great video. 😁😁

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you Debbie, not over yet. We havent quite got to the end

  • @2H80vids
    @2H80vids 4 роки тому +44

    Another brilliant episode Martin. When you finish the final episode, (is there one more to come?) would you consider editing them all together into one documentary-length episode? Certainly keep all the individual pieces, but a full-length one would surely be the definitive work on the subject of the Medlock. The quality and content is done to a really high standard and your editing skills are certainly good enough.
    Just a thought.☺
    Cheers for now,
    Dougie.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +2

      Thank you Dougie. Have you looked at the playlist section on my Channel. They are all there lined up in order

    • @2H80vids
      @2H80vids 4 роки тому +2

      @@MartinZero Yep, I've watched every one of them Martin. I was just thinking that re-editing them into one documentary episode would make sense. As I said, certainly leave all the individual episodes in place, but you could remove the intros and outros from them and tinker with them just enough to make the one full-length programme.
      Taking it a stage farther, put the documentary on a DVD and, combined with the "lost rivers" book, you would have a definitive history of the Medlock. I'm not suggesting it would become a bestseller, but anyone interested in the subject would love it.
      As usual, just a thought.☺
      I'm off to watch the latest upload.
      All the Best,
      Dougie.

    • @brucej9575
      @brucej9575 3 роки тому

      @@2H80vids Taking that idea further, I think it would make a great series on Discovery channel or something similar.

  • @daniel-1976
    @daniel-1976 4 роки тому

    Love the music, and this series so much. thanks for all your efforts, I salute your dedication and passion.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you very much Daniel

  • @danieltoth-nagy5097
    @danieltoth-nagy5097 4 роки тому

    A few days ago I couldn't image how quickly I will watch all of these videos in a short turn. But you can't just stop watching them. Thanks, Martin!

  • @albiondave7312
    @albiondave7312 4 роки тому +6

    those people were probably fetching coke in the prams when i was a lad i used to go to the gas works for coke and fetch it home on the crossbar of my bike the gas works rendered coal into coke and gas and other products like coal tar etc thanks for the memory it was in the late 50s in crewe

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks, yes I realise now. Hard times

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 4 роки тому +3

    I was about to run to the store then this vid popped up. The store can wait for half an hour

  • @MancunianDrummer4hire
    @MancunianDrummer4hire 2 роки тому

    I’m a Clayton lad, and the Medlock has always been a mystical water course in my heart. You have exceeded all my questions regarding its journey. Your videos are superb, martin. The music really adds to the ambience of yoyr discoveries, seeing places joe public will never see. Love your channel. Would be great to go upstream from phillips park and find its source. You are a Manchester legend, mate.

  • @LittleCarol
    @LittleCarol 4 роки тому

    Thank you for this Medlock Series, Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for taking me on a journey I could have never made on my own. I am truly thankful for all your efforts.

  • @maggiefleuriot4427
    @maggiefleuriot4427 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks so much for this fantastic vid. I got scared for you a couple of times, and I want to say you are a couple of star gents for doing this for us. Looking forward to seeing more of Manchester soon. Those Owen Street skyscrapers look very glam, actually. Here in Pretoria they are developing an area in the east called Menlyn where we live and I actually enjoyed watching the buildings go up.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Maggie, wow Pretoria, am very impressed your watching so far away

  • @drowningcows7631
    @drowningcows7631 4 роки тому +5

    Is that hearing protection sign on your safety helmet from the hacienda? am I misremembering that? Where did you get it from?

    • @stevenchaloner162
      @stevenchaloner162 4 роки тому +2

      its definitely the hacienda/factory records version you can get the sticker from a site called redbubble. com. Search "factory" under stickers section comes in 3 sizes and probably others also sell it but thats the place i got mine.

    • @drowningcows7631
      @drowningcows7631 4 роки тому +1

      @@stevenchaloner162 Thanks!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Yes it is a sticker from Redbubble 👍

  • @neilwilliams2409
    @neilwilliams2409 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent job again Martin. Great series of videos.👍

  • @sputumtube
    @sputumtube 4 роки тому

    Abso-f**king-lutely awesome. Wouldn't it be wonderful if some eccentric millionaire were to assemble a team to clear these places of overgrowth, fallen woodwork, old tyres and so on. I've said it befor and I'll say it again.... this stuff is priceless. Thanks for bringing us along Martin. Much appreciated.

  • @juliegreenhalgh8321
    @juliegreenhalgh8321 4 роки тому

    Absolutely wonderful

  • @UKAbandonedMineExplores
    @UKAbandonedMineExplores 4 роки тому

    A river I'll probably never visit but I find these videos absolutely fascinating.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thanks very much. Some of those mines you go in. OMG !!!

  • @alexdreamer9950
    @alexdreamer9950 4 роки тому

    Excellent video and some really interesting facts about the river and surrounding infrastructure. Love the videos.

  • @joybeasley5363
    @joybeasley5363 4 роки тому

    Well done Martin. Super video. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed every part of this Medlock series. Thanks so much for being entertaining and enthusiastic about sharing the history of Manchester and it’s surroundings.

  • @Isabellaacapella
    @Isabellaacapella Рік тому

    Absolutely fascinating!

  • @richcampoverde
    @richcampoverde 4 роки тому

    Your vids are an utter joy martin

  • @throughtheeyesofachild61_45
    @throughtheeyesofachild61_45 4 роки тому

    Another awesome video thank you 😊

  • @stephengiles2873
    @stephengiles2873 4 роки тому +1

    Another cracking video the time and effort that you invest in these videos is incredible. Again thanks for sharing the unseen bits of Manchester

  • @howarddavies4384
    @howarddavies4384 4 роки тому

    Only just come across this amazing series of videos and for me it was a journey back to my early working years. I started work with what was then North West Gas back in 1976 and my office was at Gaythorn and the office window can be clearly seen on one of the old photos. Around 1978 / 79 the culvert through Gaythorn was found to be in need of replacement and I observed for from my window the removal of probably around 80m of the old culvert and for a period the Medlock ran as an open river and you could identify many remains of previous buildings along it's run together with the River Tib and yes I've actually seen a short length of it run free for a while where it joined the Medlock through an arched culvert from under Whitworth Street.
    The video that covers the Bradford Road Gas Works also brought back many memories as my office moved there in 1979 and I was very familiar with the Medlock's course as there were large gas mains running in the vicinity and over the Medlock itself. The large gas holder shown in this video was a 10 million cubic foot one which I had extensive involvement in automating in the 1980's, although now decommissioned it's now largest in the UK and was previously surpassed only by 12 million sized one at Greenwich where what is now the O2 arena. Off to view the Gould Street Gas Works video now where I was based for 4 years from 1982 and where I was present when they broke into the old retort house there. Thanks Martin for your excellent videos.

  • @heathhealey7049
    @heathhealey7049 4 роки тому

    Another great video again Martin well done

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn 4 роки тому

    Absolutely fascinating, love the research and time you spend on the back stories of these places .

  • @robertcaves3797
    @robertcaves3797 Рік тому

    So fascinating to watch. Thank you..

  • @MrGebbo1
    @MrGebbo1 4 роки тому

    What a contrast. One minute the meandering and calming Medlock and the next a raging torrent. That wall holding the canal back was scary. Another fabulous video Martin.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Geoff yeah one hell of a contrast

  • @craigwarby2188
    @craigwarby2188 4 роки тому

    Another fantastic video Martin. Love your insight and enthusiasm! ❤️

  • @irvinehornby2142
    @irvinehornby2142 Рік тому

    thats was a fabuous journey Martin , my 2x gt grandparents lived in chorlton on medlock in 1850, ludlow street which i believe is now a universiry. again thank you you made an old man very happy to see old familuar places .

  • @andyhill242
    @andyhill242 4 роки тому

    A fascinating and epic series on the Medlock. Thank You Martin.

  • @clarkpowell8000
    @clarkpowell8000 4 роки тому

    Absolutely fantastic! Thank you sir!

  • @darkstatehk
    @darkstatehk 4 роки тому

    I didn't want this series to end! What I love about these videos are the excursions into history, the map comparisons, seeing remnants of old Manchester built on older Manchester. I work in a textile related industry and it's amazing to see those old mills that would have been churning out fabrics, metalwares being forged, cloth being dyed, yarns being woven, and so much more....250 years ago. The River Medlock flows near where I used to live and somewhere on Medlock Vale when I was a kid, I found a construction buried in the undergrowth on the opposite of what was Unimetal Scrap yard (some of you may know it as the airplane works). We dug out the outline and it appeared to be some kind of water diversion device. To this day I still want to revisit that location and dig it out. Fascinating!

  • @AdmiralJT
    @AdmiralJT 4 роки тому +1

    I love that you actually run over to places instead of cutting, makes it feel as if we are there with you even more. Amazing learning about these places with your passion for them.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you, I like a bit of run and gun 😃

  • @phildavis4878
    @phildavis4878 4 роки тому

    Another brilliant video lots of information I always appreciate it thank you do your time that you spend doing it look forward to your next one keep up the good work Indiana Jones

  • @rickmarsden9101
    @rickmarsden9101 4 роки тому

    Fascinating as usual Martin, thanks.

  • @bigladjonnyboy397
    @bigladjonnyboy397 4 роки тому

    Fascinating stuff as always and I love the old photos as well. Cheers Martin.

  • @RolandMillward
    @RolandMillward 4 роки тому

    Another superb video. Thanks for all the time and effort you put it and sharing this with your viewers. Keep up the good work!

  • @floor993
    @floor993 4 роки тому

    Fascinating video it is! Also amazing the new buildings that are build over these very old structures!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you Flo. Yeah makes you wonder

  • @WickerMan73
    @WickerMan73 4 роки тому

    Just wonderful, thanks for all your danger work martin on the medlock series. Brilliant our kid

  • @pollyfoofoo8703
    @pollyfoofoo8703 4 роки тому

    Always enjoy spending time with you, martin! Another great video. Ty!

  • @woolwarths
    @woolwarths 4 роки тому

    Amazing! Theres so much beautiful, hidden history in our city 🙌🏼

  • @lawrence5117
    @lawrence5117 4 роки тому

    Great stuff Martin. Probably the best of the Medlock episodes. Thanks

  • @neilthomas9244
    @neilthomas9244 4 роки тому

    What can I say! Yet another great vid. Well researched, great documentation and of course, well traversed.

  • @JasonAllenUK
    @JasonAllenUK 4 роки тому

    Great series Martin. Really enjoyed the journey. Thanks for putting in the effort. Much appreciated here.

  • @fac51nh
    @fac51nh 4 роки тому

    Looked dodgy in that culvert well done. Love your work and looking forward to the next one 👍👍👍

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah those last two culverts were dodgy to be honest. Thanks very much

  • @dchalkie
    @dchalkie 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video Martin, when the last one on the Medlock finishes you’ll have to start on the Manchester ship canal as this will keep you going with history from start to finish and the use of both drones 👍 Thank you

  • @navigator902
    @navigator902 4 роки тому

    Martin absolutely fascinating historical pictures and walking in reality... some of the best video seen so far.Give Charley a hand shake for me, thank him too.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому

      Thank you Frank. I will pass it on

  • @johnrooney1860
    @johnrooney1860 4 роки тому

    Once again brilliant video Martin so many secrets your undoing great job.john Rooney

  • @johnkelly2422
    @johnkelly2422 4 роки тому

    Fascinating as always.

  • @DogSerious
    @DogSerious 4 роки тому +1

    I love your enthusiasm for this, its even rubbing off on me.
    I'm finding myself getting into this Manchester water ways stuff!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  4 роки тому +1

      Ha, thank you. Yeah it is all quite fascinating 👍