True bro.. is SGA breaking any historical records -NO- All world knows who is the best, except those who pretend to be smart and like to complicate the obvious things
This is done for views. There are lots of personas amongst spokesman/show hosts... Try to debate with ur friends about who's the right MVP. It is much more healthier of interaction. Otherwise it's waste of time... Cheers
I don’t get Lou’s point. Jok played in the 4th quarter for the first time in 5 games, only because Kings were catching up. He plays just as much as they need him to win, and nothing more. He’s just THAT good of a player. Now SGA can’t do anything about it, he’s a fantastic player with a fantastic coach and a great team around him, he’s also not a show off type of player. But greatness is greatness, we’re just seeing the best offensive engine this game has ever seen
Dude had zero logic or reasoning. Like there are so many logical points you could make for sga and he just yelled some unreasonable shit that made zero sense
LOL, wtf is going on, now its an argument against Jokic that he have these numbers, cause, is it neccessery? 😅 Like wtf is going on, dude is having the single Best individual season in the history of the nba and this is what they Come up with? Any american player with these numbers would be labelled the goat.
You can tell Lou doesn’t watch the nuggets. The last five games the nuggets have basically won the game by the third quarter. The only reason jokic stats aren’t better than they already are is because he’s been sitting in the fourth quarter.
There is no honest statistical comparison between the two players, one is that much better than the other. To put this into perspective, Jokic now has 5 triple-doubles in a row, ALL before the 4th quarter started. This is more than twice as many triple-doubles as Shai has put up IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER (2). That Jokic has been sitting out most 4th quarters drives down his usage rate, but drives up his efficiency when he's on the court. Jokic resurrected Russell Westbrook and deserves credit for making every player on his team better. This all said, the NBA will find a way to screw Jokic out of another MVP, because they simply fail to appreciate true greatness in every facet of the game. Jokic won't care, but his fans will.
Is MVP a team award or an individual player award? Dude is averaging a triple double with 30+ points at halfway through the season. He's getting his tripple doubles in the 3rd quarter. There's no way bro just said what he said.
What a mind boggling argument. Just last night, Jokic ends the 3Q with the nuggets up 25pts. something like 22/20/15. Kings proceed to go on an 11-0 run and pull within 5. Jokic had to come back on and proceeded to collect 2 more assists, and 13 pts in the 4th. They *absolutely* needed him to put up those stats. Clear he is not watching the games. All love to Shai too, hes putting in work. But lets not start throwing strawman arguments out because you want the other guy to win.
We are witnessing greatness right now-greatness that hasn't been seen since the MJ era, or it may even date back to Wilt's basketball dinosaur era. Could you imagine seeing a dinosaur walking down the street? How would that feel? Joker is that dinosaur!
Lou, go play basketball and leave the thinking part for people who can actually string an argument together. You don't even make sense. If someone just listened to your argument without knowing you're trying to defend SGA winning the MVP award they would have no idea if you're actually supporting SGA or Jokic. That's how senseless it was.
Lou what are you talking about. Nuggets have won 5 games when he doesn't play the 4th quarter. Some games he's didn't score more than 25pts. You don't see the score. All the starters had double digits pts
Lou what are you talking about, Jokic went out in the last 4 games before 4th quoter. This game against Sacramento, they made 15-1 run in the 4th quoter, so Malone get back Jokic! Denver will be second on the west, close 2nd
His reasoning supports Jokic more. They is no more in the flow of the game player than him. He goes for 35-20-15 and the rest of the starters have 20 points. SGA goes for 54 on what, 35-40 shots? How is that in the flow of the game?
Are these numbers necessary for them to be competitive team? Are you f-ing kidding me? That's your argument? When you think they can't get any dumber with the excuses for not saying Jokic. Just ridiculous.
Here's the reality. Jokic's conventional and advanced numbers are flat out better than SGA's. When you look at impact in terms of plus minus and on off measures it's not particularly close. W/out SGA OKC is a playoff team. W/out Jokic the Nuggets are deep in the lottery. Jokic is having one of if not the best offensive seasons ever. He's top 3 in scoring, rebounding and assists. This recent rush to crown SGA the front runner makes no sense in terms of actual facts. I understand he's the shiny new object and OKC is killing it so it's about narrative, not facts. People continue to say it's not about voter fatigue or concern for crowning Jokic one of the greatest players of all time (if he gets a fourth very hard not to have him top 10 all time), but it's very obviously those two things. Otherwise Jokic is a no brainer.
Lou, come on man! Putting up those numbers count against Joker? This is the most valuable player, right? It is necessary, and he doesn't have help, so that means a whole lot more than what SGA is doing with all his help. 🤡 People are just looking for a reason to rob this man, again. Haters.
Lou can't admit that Jokic have another season of life that his stats are even better than MVP season and all that he can say is "but SGA deserve". It's not about who deserves it is about most valuable player not only in his team ,in entire Ligue man...
Lou is a jackass. The fact that he says it hurt jokic that he has to do what he's doing to win is the most idiotic argument I've ever heard. Just a month ago he had to come out and back track his statements in regards to jokic. Soy boy lou arguments against jokic Makes no sense
My question...Do they recieve some benefits for this kind of talks from "someone"or this is just regular racist thing from lot of guys...both are insane c'mon.When we gonna put the differences behind and just watch basketball.
SGA is not even close to being in the realm of Jokic, Joker is a top 5 player of all time, SGA ain't even close to the top 100. That being said can you really give 10+ MVP to Joker even though he is the most valuable player in the league?
big fan of a Lou, but this argument against joker makes my nose bleed... wth was that? lmao sometimes i don't know how does those people even tie their own shoelaces? jaiks
I truly believe that Joker is the best player in the league. I can't get past the thought that the only year in the last 4 that Joker didn't win the MVP he got a ring. Let him have it (SGA). Joker is playing for championships.
Lou more biased than that impossible. Jokic put those numbers because if he doesn’t Denver will basically fall to play in positions. What a garbage argument to start off his biased defense for SGA
HOW is SGA in front??? By what standards? All three of them are making stupid comments, even when they try to stand in Jokic's corner they don't put up the facts. He is taking as much as the game gives him. If he wanted he could bully everyone and score 60 a game, but he is facilitating and finishing games before the 4th quarter. The fact that he won 4 out of the last 5 awards does not mean that someone who is having by far an inferior season but in a better team should win it. You keep bringing up team stats in an individual player award, Jokic is by far the best player in the world and this should have been his 5th straight award had it not been for stupid narratives from the media. Shaq is scared shitless for his legacy of the most dominant big man ever so he is pushing for SGA, this lot are just in the narrative flow and repeating what they hear around. A demigod comes to your midst to teach you humility and true values of team play and you are blind to see him for what he is. Mr. BASKETBALL!
If Jokic ends with the best season since NBA merger and they finish top 3 seeds and the NBA denys history it will delegitamize the award. 31, 14, 10 on epic efficiency . The NBA would fail itself trying to be to cute.
Totaly stupid argument for SGA, stop with racism. The media will not let Jokić win 4th mvp because he is Serbian and white. He already should have won his 4th when Embiid got his mvp.
Wow did Williams just say does Jokic have to put up these numbers for Denver to Win!!!! What a Stupid Take do these People even watch the Nuggets play.... Great with Jokic on the Floor/ Nuggets are Hopeless when Jokic sits for a Breather... I can't take People like this Seriously, definitely lost me... Not listening to these Guy's again.... I'm out
All that has been done before. No one but Giannis has ever averaged over 30ppg at over 60FG percentage. The nba has had no 3 point shot for the majority of its existence. Giannis is the best offense player ever!!! He is also a defensive player of the year.
@jenshansen773Giannis is top 5 in mid-rang makes and percentage. You lies make no sense. Giannis is making history. Jokic is doing something that was done before. That is significant to the MVP conversation. Westbrook done what Jokic is doing twice.
Lou is delusional, he is obv not aware that Jokic is not playing when he don't need to to win the game, he is on the bench when they have a big lead all the time. Jokic is true MVP, probably GOAT.
They forgot to mention that Jokic did not play in the fourth quarters in the previous 3-4 games, yet he had tripple-doubles...
The Agenda against Jokic is wild. Did this dude say he has to get those numbers so it’s not as good? What you talking about bruh??
True bro.. is SGA breaking any historical records -NO- All world knows who is the best, except those who pretend to be smart and like to complicate the obvious things
This is done for views. There are lots of personas amongst spokesman/show hosts... Try to debate with ur friends about who's the right MVP. It is much more healthier of interaction. Otherwise it's waste of time... Cheers
I don’t get Lou’s point. Jok played in the 4th quarter for the first time in 5 games, only because Kings were catching up. He plays just as much as they need him to win, and nothing more. He’s just THAT good of a player. Now SGA can’t do anything about it, he’s a fantastic player with a fantastic coach and a great team around him, he’s also not a show off type of player. But greatness is greatness, we’re just seeing the best offensive engine this game has ever seen
FACTS!!!
Lou: i love what he's doing?
Allow Lou: I hate Jokic
Just admit that u hate Jokic it's ok
Jokič is THE EVOLUTION OF THE GAME.
There would be 30 players dominating the box score and 10x that amount being forced into a specific role.
Allow Lou : Jokic is too white .
Dude had zero logic or reasoning. Like there are so many logical points you could make for sga and he just yelled some unreasonable shit that made zero sense
So SGA is better than Jokic because SGA has more help😂?
Dumbest argument I’ve ever heard lol. He doesn’t realize that he’s making the opposite point
😂😂lous logic
He has more free throws in his scores!
Holy crap, Lou's comments are dumb
Lou's a "hooper"
Some extremely low bbiq
Lou is bl@ck therefore he has to diminish joker
The Narrative for Best Team...SGA wins MVP but if the Narrative goes for the Best Player....Joker wins MVP
LOL, wtf is going on, now its an argument against Jokic that he have these numbers, cause, is it neccessery? 😅 Like wtf is going on, dude is having the single Best individual season in the history of the nba and this is what they Come up with? Any american player with these numbers would be labelled the goat.
Ja , hes not american. Everithink is good enough yust to take him mwp away. But hes the best player who EVER play the game.
You can tell Lou doesn’t watch the nuggets. The last five games the nuggets have basically won the game by the third quarter. The only reason jokic stats aren’t better than they already are is because he’s been sitting in the fourth quarter.
No he is not. Giannis is
@@kawakami789they are not playing better than the Bucks.
@@kalinwang1 did you ever figure out when the three point line started? I know basic math is hard.😂
The crazy thing is that Jokic does not care about the MVP, he cares a lot more about getting Westbrook a ring! That is how unselfish he is!!
There is no honest statistical comparison between the two players, one is that much better than the other. To put this into perspective, Jokic now has 5 triple-doubles in a row, ALL before the 4th quarter started. This is more than twice as many triple-doubles as Shai has put up IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER (2). That Jokic has been sitting out most 4th quarters drives down his usage rate, but drives up his efficiency when he's on the court. Jokic resurrected Russell Westbrook and deserves credit for making every player on his team better. This all said, the NBA will find a way to screw Jokic out of another MVP, because they simply fail to appreciate true greatness in every facet of the game. Jokic won't care, but his fans will.
Is MVP a team award or an individual player award? Dude is averaging a triple double with 30+ points at halfway through the season. He's getting his tripple doubles in the 3rd quarter. There's no way bro just said what he said.
I'm not a native speaker so correct me, so he recognizes that SGA has more help, and says that's why it's more valuable.
What a mind boggling argument. Just last night, Jokic ends the 3Q with the nuggets up 25pts. something like 22/20/15. Kings proceed to go on an 11-0 run and pull within 5. Jokic had to come back on and proceeded to collect 2 more assists, and 13 pts in the 4th. They *absolutely* needed him to put up those stats. Clear he is not watching the games.
All love to Shai too, hes putting in work. But lets not start throwing strawman arguments out because you want the other guy to win.
jokic hasn't started the 4th quarter last night and nuggets almost lost the game..
yes, what's he's doing is absolutely necessary
Was Lou on Dancing with the Stars?
Cause the moves hes making to not give Jokic his flowers is crazy.
We are witnessing greatness right now-greatness that hasn't been seen since the MJ era, or it may even date back to Wilt's basketball dinosaur era. Could you imagine seeing a dinosaur walking down the street? How would that feel? Joker is that dinosaur!
😄👌
Nice analogy!
Lou doesn't really watch Denver obviously
Let’s be honest… we all know why he likes SGA instead…
Lou, go play basketball and leave the thinking part for people who can actually string an argument together. You don't even make sense. If someone just listened to your argument without knowing you're trying to defend SGA winning the MVP award they would have no idea if you're actually supporting SGA or Jokic. That's how senseless it was.
It's called Most Valuable PLAYER, not Most Valuable TEAM. SGA is the pity vote for MVP. Joker is the one and only MVP!
First time jokic has played a 4th quarter in over a week
Genuine question, is Lou a moron?
😂
So Lou is saying Jokic is stat padding? This clown is Perkins 2.0
Lou is totally not biased 😂
Jokic got the last 5 triple doubles by end of 3rd quarter!!!! If he played in d 4rth, he would average 30+ numbers
Lou what are you talking about. Nuggets have won 5 games when he doesn't play the 4th quarter. Some games he's didn't score more than 25pts. You don't see the score. All the starters had double digits pts
Lou what are you talking about, Jokic went out in the last 4 games before 4th quoter. This game against Sacramento, they made 15-1 run in the 4th quoter, so Malone get back Jokic!
Denver will be second on the west, close 2nd
Jokic just plays what the defense gives him. Not his fault he can read defenses lmao.
damn this mf lou tryna be kendrick perkins lol
I don't know what it is, but the drug Lou is on is dangerous, could really make you think you can fly
Jokic doesn't play 4th Quarters, what do you mean Lou??
Lou is a Jokic hater, even last year
Lou makes no sense
(1:20) Plenty of reasons SGA wins over Joker... Lou's reasoning is stupid, tho, lmao
His reasoning supports Jokic more. They is no more in the flow of the game player than him. He goes for 35-20-15 and the rest of the starters have 20 points. SGA goes for 54 on what, 35-40 shots? How is that in the flow of the game?
Completely agree.
All lou did was state he has a bias, and no objective facts are gonna change his mind. Over and over, he says shay's his guy, and that's it. CLOWN 🤡
Are these numbers necessary for them to be competitive team?
Are you f-ing kidding me? That's your argument? When you think they can't get any dumber with the excuses for not saying Jokic. Just ridiculous.
Nikola is THE ONE AND ONLY REAL MVP!!!!
Here's the reality. Jokic's conventional and advanced numbers are flat out better than SGA's. When you look at impact in terms of plus minus and on off measures it's not particularly close. W/out SGA OKC is a playoff team. W/out Jokic the Nuggets are deep in the lottery. Jokic is having one of if not the best offensive seasons ever. He's top 3 in scoring, rebounding and assists. This recent rush to crown SGA the front runner makes no sense in terms of actual facts. I understand he's the shiny new object and OKC is killing it so it's about narrative, not facts. People continue to say it's not about voter fatigue or concern for crowning Jokic one of the greatest players of all time (if he gets a fourth very hard not to have him top 10 all time), but it's very obviously those two things. Otherwise Jokic is a no brainer.
LOU IS THE SHAQ FROM LAST YEAR PUSHING THEIR DELUSION NARRATIVE. Also, he believes the earth is flat.
Lou williams said the dumbest cr*p ive ever heard
Lou, come on man! Putting up those numbers count against Joker? This is the most valuable player, right? It is necessary, and he doesn't have help, so that means a whole lot more than what SGA is doing with all his help. 🤡 People are just looking for a reason to rob this man, again. Haters.
Llu williams does not watch the nuggets. This all came within the flow of the game.
Lou can't admit that Jokic have another season of life that his stats are even better than MVP season and all that he can say is "but SGA deserve". It's not about who deserves it is about most valuable player not only in his team ,in entire Ligue man...
Lou is a jackass. The fact that he says it hurt jokic that he has to do what he's doing to win is the most idiotic argument I've ever heard. Just a month ago he had to come out and back track his statements in regards to jokic. Soy boy lou arguments against jokic Makes no sense
LOU, IT’S JANUARY! 😂 Keep talking your ignorant crap, he’s out for everyone and everything…
Compared to Jokic, SGA is just a good player
People wanna push out Nikola so hard their getting delusional...
Please don't start this BS stat padding crap again.
My question...Do they recieve some benefits for this kind of talks from "someone"or this is just regular racist thing from lot of guys...both are insane c'mon.When we gonna put the differences behind and just watch basketball.
WTF?! No Lakers vs Celtics talk?! The greatest rivalry of all time in the NBA and they don’t talk about it?! 😂😂😂😂😂
Lou is delusional! This is for you…“My back on the wall, now you gon’ see. Better watch how you talk when you talk about me”
Soo sad...
Jokic is breaking civil rights movement era records almost weekly bases while averaging 30 point tripoe double. He is the clear mvp
I am cool with either winning, it is just a regular season award. Jokic has the highest peak i have personally seen.
SGA is not even close to being in the realm of Jokic, Joker is a top 5 player of all time, SGA ain't even close to the top 100. That being said can you really give 10+ MVP to Joker even though he is the most valuable player in the league?
big fan of a Lou, but this argument against joker makes my nose bleed... wth was that? lmao sometimes i don't know how does those people even tie their own shoelaces? jaiks
Lou is freaking nuts with his take.
What kinda argument against Jokic is that? That was moronic.
Lou argument is 😂😂😂
I truly believe that Joker is the best player in the league. I can't get past the thought that the only year in the last 4 that Joker didn't win the MVP he got a ring. Let him have it (SGA). Joker is playing for championships.
Allow Lou: I hate Jokic
Just admit that u hate Jokic it's ok ( he stupid)
SGA will probably win mvp and deserve it. But lou's argument doesn't make any sense here
Lou more biased than that impossible. Jokic put those numbers because if he doesn’t Denver will basically fall to play in positions. What a garbage argument to start off his biased defense for SGA
Have you noticed how few commenters defend SGA?
How is Jokić exhausted when 4 or 3 out of the 5 triple doubles he got without playing in the 4th 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Cmom Lou,Joker had 3-4 triple doubles without playing 4th quarter
NGL, that argument is not one of Lou's best.
HOW is SGA in front??? By what standards? All three of them are making stupid comments, even when they try to stand in Jokic's corner they don't put up the facts. He is taking as much as the game gives him. If he wanted he could bully everyone and score 60 a game, but he is facilitating and finishing games before the 4th quarter.
The fact that he won 4 out of the last 5 awards does not mean that someone who is having by far an inferior season but in a better team should win it. You keep bringing up team stats in an individual player award, Jokic is by far the best player in the world and this should have been his 5th straight award had it not been for stupid narratives from the media. Shaq is scared shitless for his legacy of the most dominant big man ever so he is pushing for SGA, this lot are just in the narrative flow and repeating what they hear around.
A demigod comes to your midst to teach you humility and true values of team play and you are blind to see him for what he is. Mr. BASKETBALL!
Lou but doesn’t that make Jokic the most valuable player to his team ??🤣🤣
If Jokic ends with the best season since NBA merger and they finish top 3 seeds and the NBA denys history it will delegitamize the award. 31, 14, 10 on epic efficiency . The NBA would fail itself trying to be to cute.
the nuggets better acquire Dwight Howard or KCP or perimeter defender from pistons
Gotta do mental gymnastics to not give it to Jokic
Totaly stupid argument for SGA, stop with racism. The media will not let Jokić win 4th mvp because he is Serbian and white. He already should have won his 4th when Embiid got his mvp.
Lou has to watch nuggets games before spouting nonsense. 😂
Wtf
Out of necessity? The only necessity is to win, he doesn't enter the game saying I need a triple double or does he say we need to win.
Also Nikola isn't chasing anyone, he cares nothing about anyone but his team.
Lou? didn't get your point
MVP is irrelevant. Give it to SGA. Jokic gunning for championship. Them meeting in playoffs would be unreal.
Lebron James is officially ejected from the top 10 all time.
edit : i'm joking he never was in the top 10 to begin with.
Wow did Williams just say does Jokic have to put up these numbers for Denver to Win!!!! What a Stupid Take do these People even watch the Nuggets play.... Great with Jokic on the Floor/ Nuggets are Hopeless when Jokic sits for a Breather... I can't take People like this Seriously, definitely lost me... Not listening to these Guy's again.... I'm out
I'll subscribe to only analysis who always make Denver Nuggets on there video❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Good, good, let the butthurt flow
The Nuggets have better players and the Thunder have better defenders
Lou 🤮
All that has been done before. No one but Giannis has ever averaged over 30ppg at over 60FG percentage. The nba has had no 3 point shot for the majority of its existence. Giannis is the best offense player ever!!! He is also a defensive player of the year.
He only dunks, 😅 jokic is 10x better, dude just had 35 22 17 ffs.
Your math is off… NBA was founded in 1949 3 point line has been in existence for 46 years. Don’t know what that has to do with this years MVP race.
@kawakami789 your math is off. When did Wilt drop 100? Larry Bird would be the all-time 3 point shot leader if the 3 was around. Do the numbers again.
@jenshansen773Giannis is top 5 in mid-rang makes and percentage. You lies make no sense. Giannis is making history. Jokic is doing something that was done before. That is significant to the MVP conversation. Westbrook done what Jokic is doing twice.
Jokic is more efficient lol. Jokic his true shooting % is higher than Giannis casual
Lou is delusional, he is obv not aware that Jokic is not playing when he don't need to to win the game, he is on the bench when they have a big lead all the time. Jokic is true MVP, probably GOAT.
hm lou's arguments are weak.. remove jokic's statline from that game and they lose lmao