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Crazy and horrific crimes and disasters happen seemingly every single day in Gotham City, so why would anyone choose to live there? From criminals constantly breaking loose and wreaking havoc, to earthquakes and other natural disasters, Gotham seems like the worst place to live imaginable. But what if it actually isn't THAT bad? What if the reason we think people are stupid for saying and living in Gotham is because we only view the city in it's darkest light? We're getting psychological in today's episode and exploring what may be the cause for people staying in Gotham all this time!
Q: Is Gotham REALLY that bad of a place to live? Let me know what you think in the comments!
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You've convinced me, I shall buy a loft in Gotham City and move in... But if I die to fear gas its your fault
Comicstorian I make no promises of safety. But if you do die, the internet will miss your videos.
Whoa... Crazy world. Two of my favorite Channels in the same shared UA-cam comment Universe (YTCU). Mind blown. Comicstorian vs Nerdysync: Dawn of Capes; date pushed back to 2016.
Comicstorian Very NerdSync
***** What happens if there's a cosmic accident and you and Comicstorian merge into an Amalgam of each other?
God help us.
Actually the better question is why are all the criminals still living in Gotham with The Batman
+InMaTeofDeath I think alot of criminals go there just to make a name for themselves, an "I went up against Batman" kind of thing. He also tends to attract or create the really crazy people also (joker for instance). In the begining of his career when he was fighting just normal criminals he made a significant dent in crime. But now he spend so much time with the outlandish villains regular crime and corruption have time to flourish.
+nahrikira
Every big city has superheroes.
At least they stand a chance against Batman.
Schwarzer Ritter That's what they think.
But one could say, is Batman responsible for the rise in crime in Gotham? Before Batman, all they had were street goons like Joe Chill or Tony Zucco. Before Superman, Metropolis was probably a really safe city.
Alex M Metropolis was safer in the sense that Lex Luthor operated behind the curtains, instead of building killer robots and contracting other supervillains. But that was just a fake sense of safety.
Such a high crime rate in Gotham probably makes housing prices dirt cheap.
So true ;)
but the insurance on the other hand…
@@nathanrowland9775 what do you mean by insurance doesn't cover Joker gas I thought that'll be in standard
Well I'm sorry sir not all of us are rich enough to afford such fancy equipment as the Batman so we have a limited Supply and you know what what economics is
Fine fine how much
1 million
I think the crazy shit that happens in Gotham happens less frequently than we might think. I mean, Joker doesn't attack Gotham EVERYDAY, he plans his schemes and then strikes, so maybe there's weeks, months or even years between stuff that happens. Gotham's also a huge city; not everyone in there has been affected by every known super villain... yet. It's kinda like how people still live in Metropolis despite all the aliens, monsters and gods that show up to rip them a new one: it probably happens less that we think. The same with Marvel; Lord knows Doom ain't got time to fight the F4 24/7. After all, he's got a country to run.
***** Yeah, but that's the game, though. In Arkham City, part of Gotham was turned into a prison. It made it easier to justify all those crooks and killers in one place. Still a great game.
Yeah but you still got two-face, riddler, penguin, killer croc, clock king, and a whole army of thugs, scum, and, psychos.
As far as I'm concerned Gotham city is hell on earth
in one episode of gotham when penguin comes back, he looks around and there is like literally 3 crimes happening at the same time as he turns his head
Tyreek Johnson Gotham city isn't anything on earth. It's not on earth at all. Detroit is hell on earth. Or Juarez, Mexico.
James Barlow
I heard of a city where the police advise you not to STOP at stop light and stop signs because you might get car jacked , but I forgot the name of the city though
You forgot the fact that some also can't afford to move somewhere else
Not everyone can be Bruce Wayne 😏
Might die today but damn this rent is cheap. I cant walk away from this!
They can actually but they just don't want to. The reason is Gotham, surprisingly despite all the bad stuff and all is an easy place to get rich given that it's one of the biggest global trade cities in the DC Universe, and that answer's why crime rates are so high in Gotham. Now I know everyone's asking the same question, "then why the people of Gotham still live below the high class." Well, to answer it, given that the crime rates are so high in Gotham you wouldn't wanna be caught driving a Lambo around the streets or wearing 24K on your neck and wrists wouldn't ya? You're better off NOT being a bait for muggers if you wanna stay alive. And besides, remember what I told you that Gotham is a place where anyone can get rich? But other than marketing and trade of course, majority only do business with the crime ridden city from safe distances. Doing business directly inside of Gotham however is way different. Despite a high risk you can leave home early with more than enough money you can use in 3-6 months. So moving out means losing a great source of income you can't usually get from other cities beside Gotham.
Gotham is probably considered safe in DC's world. I mean Detroit has bang babies from Static Shock, Metroplish has godly aliens beating each other, ect.
Lol I just realized this
Excella1900
yea. maybe racoon wasn't that bad either
Oh no that's where you wrong raccoon city is more dangerous lol come on you got T-103 tyrants walking around and nemesis and lickers 😱
Excella1900
But how many burglaries? >:)
*****
Wait, the Arkham team says the Arkham games are on a Batman only Earth!! Metropolis and Kryptonians shouldn't exist!
Citizens reactions to things in gotham:
- Fear Gas: meh
- Exploding hospitals: meh
- man walking aroudn freezing everybody: meh
- crazed clown sprayign happy gas everywhere
- guy with question marks on his clothes making bad riddles: save us batman!
- Neon paint: *shudders* thank god we have batman
- Batnipples; OH GOD WHY, ABANDON GOTHAM!
But what if they were on batgirl
you just HAD to go there, didn't you
OH LOOK AT HER BOOBS
Ok
Not to mention there is aslo
-a bird man
- a lawyer has half his face butned off
-a plant lady
-a super buff mexican wrestler
- a guy who is made of liquid diarrehea
- and a crocodile mutant loving in the sewers.
my immediate thought was actually "learned helplessness," where negative stimuli happen so often, or unpredictably that you just get used to it, and don't think about it anymore.
Thanks a good point!
This may be old but it does snow in Australia
Where they get used to it? That sounds like what nerd sync said
+Karl Porter my first thought was that there is no other place to go. Maybe because there are no other options in other cities for a good and sustainable job with a safe environment?
Then again, cities in DC universe are huge, of course you will probably find an opportunity to move there somewhere
but yours seems reasonable
wjø
Why do people still live in Gotham City? I don't know, why do people still live in Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, St. Louis, Oakland, Atlanta, and Newark?
Those cities aren't that bad as I recall.....which kinda proves their point about Gotham.
Atomic Robo Tesla Actually, all those cities I mentioned are on the list of the top 10 cities with the highest crime rates in the USA, which kinda proves my point about Gotham.
44excalibur No, I get that. I'm just saying that there's probably a good side that's not really seen in the news that keeps people there.
Atomic Robo Tesla Yeah, and Gotham also has a good side. The Wayne family was part of an elite class in Gotham's society that represented the upper echelons of the city. then there was a middle class that pretty much kept the city functioning, and then the part of Gotham that was corrupt and filled with crime. The crime in Gotham stretched from the street gangs, muggers, pushers, pimps, and murderers, straight up through the ranks of organized mob crime families and corporate criminals, and corrupt city officials and law enforcement.
And then you have the rogue's gallery of psychopaths, sociopaths, and hired killers, all of whom have their own obsessive compulsive fetishes and theatrical methods. Gotham is a city of layers - Victorian era gothic, retro 1940's era film noir, and 21st century art deco, all wrapped up in one city. And let's not forget, it's not like Metropolis, Central City, Star City, and Coast City haven't all been on the verge of annihilation from time to time.
44excalibur I know, that was the point I was trying to get across.
At least we're on the same page now! :)
I lived in Sao Paulo. Everyone kept asking me about the crime and were almost disappointed when I explain to them that I was never robbed, mugged, kidnapped, etc. Bigger cities means more crime simply because of population. Doesn't mean it happens around every corner.
I always assumed it's just dirt cheap. I mean housing prices must be through the floor.
+142doddy gotham would be huge also and its a tech center and the jobs are everywhere and its the headquarters of an american power house wayne enterprises fox industries and more there is gambling and mega concerts its got a square bigger and better than new york random monuments multi century old historic districts multiple esteemed schools its runs 24 hours a day they have movie studios and more sounds like an awesome place to live and anyone can afford to be there
+142doddy I always assumed the same thing. Also, I guess I always thought that Gotham, like other cities, has it's good and bad side (rich and poor side) and through Batman comics, we only see the "bad" side and assume the entire city is like that.
+Mark Foster care ww22&&&"hb
+Mark Foster yeah the Watch OUT WatcH OUT RKO side
Housing prices through the floor when your renting a basement apartment I guess.
People still lives in gotham so they can see batman.... And maybe batnipples
yes that's why they do it because of bat nipples
XD
+G4MING M00S3 obviosly
Those nipples.
Those nipples are the bomb, but you can't get rid of them some days.
I think that we believe that Gotham is so bad because of the selective Bias, but this could be applicable to any other Comic Book series. Why is this one different? Well, it's because of Batman's seclusion. We think that Central City, for example, is better than Gotham because we see the Flash interacting with citizens, working with the cops, and generally being a nice person.He seems cheery and optimistic, so his city does as well. But we don't seem to think of Batman as Optimistic, because- he's not. And we, as humans, make connections between characters and their settings in our minds, so Batman is Gloomy and distant, so Gotham is as well. It's all psychological.
Bob Bluered Excellent point!
Batman was not as distant in the 1966 TV series.
Nah Gotham is just overall a dangerous place
"It's all psychological" he says as Joker kills hundreds of people downtown.
@@randeli7785 just hundreds? Must have been a good day for Batman.
There's also another factor you haven't mentioned and that is the economy. Many people live in dangerous areas but refuse to move because moving to another location, even to another house means saving up money that most times they don't have. It could be as well that the land is theirs and it's either difficult to sell or it's already devaluated because of the danger. There's also the situation of employment, moving out can also mean losing their place of work and that represents even greater challenges, especially to low and middle-income families that don't have the means to save up enough to move and pay for another place while searching for a job. And finally, because the area is a "red zone" the cost of housing must be rather cheap, at least in some areas, there's obviously a wealthy community, but is definitely not all, so in the other areas there's cheaper rent or mortgage so they're actually able to pay it and don't want to move cause they know is expensive in other places.
Here's my take on this -we're talking about the DC universe here, I mean, are other cities any safer? There are super heroes and villains in every major city in the comic universe -so Gotham wouldn't be any more dangerous than the next town over.
Unless it's a _minor_ city! ;)
Nah, I think those are where those crappy heroes and villains live -you know, the ones that occasionally make their way into mainstream cities. Like Hindsight lad -his city has like one stop light, and his arch enemy is some perv who flashes people in the park on the 3rd of every month. He realizes he should have gotten there earlier every month when the perv escapes.
eugene Perry But if it happens to be the next town over it _must_ mean Gotham is incredibly safe!
I can see it now, Knock-off Gotham! Batman is a silly man who runs around in a bat-suit screeching at criminals while his arch enemy is a clown who tells people bad jokes without being asked! It's genius!
+eugene Perry central city is a good city
Gamangabox kaz Isn't that where the Flash is?
"...where other fictional disasters happen like Metropolis or New York City..." Or Doctor Who's London. Every Christmas.
deep-thought42 hahaha! You are absolutely right!
Or in Old Doctor Who, where there were so many alien planets that looked like quarries in Dorset.
***** but in the titanic christmas special people do actually leave london at christmas because they don't want to get attacked by aliens
It's because they KNOW O-O
deep-thought42 i know seriously , Doctor Who's London is very dangerous even compared to Metropolis and Gotham, it has all sorts of weird stuff .
Q: Why Do People STILL Live in Gotham?
A: because without them getting into danger, batman would be unemployed.
u320017 Very true.
Haha, I'm still not sure it's worth it just to be put in mortal danger and hope the bat signal summons Batman in time.
Plus, from what I've read over the years he's routinely late :(
u320017 lol , if he is travelling metropolis and helping other places, thats another but it is pretty much true , and other places ARE MORE DANGEROUS!
I love that theory! I always just assumed that it was because Gotham's economy was so screwed up. It seems like in most incarnations of the city there are only rich people and poor people without much of a working/middle class in between. The rich wouldn't want to move away because they'd lose power, and the poor really wouldn't have a choice.
But actually, the more I think about it, the more I like the idea that there's normal stuff going on elsewhere while Batman's blowing things up.
The only 2 times I've sort of experienced snow where I live is Aus they've told us it was just very fine hail. Kinda ruined my buzz, but hey! It helps to maintain your illusion a bit!
MonarchsFactory Thanks, Dael! The economy in Gotham could be an entire video all on its own. Haha. The apparent absence of a working/middle class raises a few eyebrows to say the least.
And thanks for clarifying on the "snow in Australia" bit!
***** No, it snows down south in 'Victoria' and 'Tasmania'
***** So who are all of the people in the office buildings? Not middle class? And with all of that high technology, you'd think the working class stuff would be done by robots.
I'm not saying there isn't a middle class, I'm just saying that they really don't get much attention. Going back to the video, this could just be my own confirmation bias only seeing lower and upper class citizens portrayed in the comics because to me they get much more spotlight than any middle class citizens. But I'm sure there are normal people living normal lives, like I said in the video. We just don't see them as much.
Maybe it has a great economy and that’s why people stay. It’s like a theory on why some henchmen apply to work for the Joker; he may kill you, or let Batman beat you up, but if you survive, you’ll get a big score and a big rep.
Well, it's also the concept that every character in DC continually talk about how bad it is to live in Gotham, even average citizens who aren't involved in crime. It's not just that we see horrible stuff happen, but that people continually talk about how horrible it is.
Same reason people still live in Chicago and Detroit.
literally the same chicago thought popped into my head when i read the title too!
Least Gothan doesn't have crazy gun control, though pathetically the citizens don't conceal carry almost never in DC interestly enough.
I live in Chicago and I don't feel scared because of it. Then, again, I live in the Northwest side, not the Southside.
Lebron James Own a gun? It helps.
#SouthsideWithMe
There is also the irksome consideration that a lot of people just can't afford to pull up stakes and move away. They can't afford to let it hang until they get a new job and a home they can afford. They don't have any roots outside of Gotham or wherever they are for support. Or what they do is so tied to [where they are] it is literally the ONLY place they can make a living and thus stay.
+DocWolph This was my first thought, honestly. Gotham is often depicted to be a dark place full of corruption and a few rich people who just haven't been killed or taken hostage yet. I assumed everyone else was too poor to pack up and leave.
+DocWolph Same here. Honestly, I'm of the mindset that the whole "save" Gotham thing Batman has is really just another rich man's vanity project. No one's actually getting real help, Batman just thinks that to prop up is own psychological problems.
Janet Gray
To be fair Batman has saved a lot of lives, and he does try to help Gotham with all the money he has. He's the anti-Lex Luthor. But until they get a hero who doesn't have emotional baggage preventing them from killing the bad guys, I'd say Gotham isn't going to get better anytime soon.
@@CreditR01 got to remember they are also schemes involve that some takes weeks or months to happen( at least for the supervillains)
And most of them are in small-scale compared to Giant Mecha robots in Metropolis Ore City busting that is normal Lantern( of any color save blue) could pull off
@@CreditR01facts.
It's kinda like how Europeans see Americans living with such extreme gun violence and wonder, "how can American's live with more people dying by guns than by car crashes?"
Actually just fact checked and that is an incorrect statistic, gun deaths resulted in a bit over 30,000 while car crashes killed approximately 33,580
+kyle06800 okay yes that's true but the point is he was wrong
+Bret W the perception is that there are more gun deaths than crashes cause they're more likely to hear about gun issues than the average car accident...no one over there is actually fact checking that
+Noel Crenshaw Is that a fact? :p
Besides, it's not that we hear more about gun deaths than we do about crashes, because that seems pretty obvious. Car crashes happen every day and just isn't that interesting.
I think the thing is that we hear about gun deaths from waaaaay over the atlantic ocean way more often than we hear about gun deaths in Europe.
And even if we heard about them happening more here than in the wild west where people ride horses and resolve family issues with guns, we always have our confirmation bias to fall back on :p
Except maybe for the horses part...
Another thing to point out is the Extreme majority of those gun deaths are suicides. Generally speaking, those people will usually kill themselves with something else if they don't have access to guns.
For future reference, pay attention to how people distinguish the cause of death. A Extremely common but deceitful tactic used by gun-control activists is to list “gun deaths” rather than “gun murders”. The number of gun murders is EXTREMELY SMALL in comparison to the number of gun deaths.
Also, don't forget: where would you move if you were a Gothamite? Star City? Central City? All the other cities in the DC universe are constantly under attack also, so...think about that. It would have to be the country but some folks don't wanna live in the country...and when they're forced, they end up in Kansas, only to be killed by someone evil who got powers during the meteor shower or something...my 2 cents.
Exactly this. Compared to the real world, Gotham is far more dangerous but in the comic world? This thing happens all the time. Almost every large city seems to have a superhero and supervillains. The entire planet/galaxy/universe is constantly under threat of being destroyed. There really is no good safe place to run.
As you said, MAYBE they can move to the country but as smallville shows, there's likely still problems there. And even then it's probably not a big enough change for people to really notice. Like the murder rate in the US is far higher than other developed countries but no one really uses that as a reason to move away. As was said in other comments, that's where the jobs are as well. And maybe crime isn't actually that much worse in the big cities, it's just more show-y. Instead of random street gangs, you have the joker and the riddler. I'm sure they keep the petty crime relatively low as well in gotham. (like how the yakuza keep other crimes fairly low in japan)
Also, I think this once again goes back into confirmation bias, right? So there are around 2.5 million cities in the world. There's probably more on the DC Earth since it's been said be be a bit larger than our Earth. The number of total cities we've seen in the comics is a tiny fraction of that amount. There are millions of cities that we haven't seen in the comics that could possibly be just normal cities without heroes or villains, but we only see the cities where the action happens.
I rather live in a city with alien invaders than psycho clown.
Clearly they live there for the excellent school system. I'm basing this on how many of Batman's enemies are doctors. There is Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, Man-bat, Scarecrow, and probably a lot of others those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.
Bruce spend multiple times on stuff wouldn't be suprised if he really spend for the schools in gotham so the Kids get Jobs instead of getting kicked in the ass from him he would more than happy if the Creme rate goes to zero
Alot of people can't imagine living in another place. You can find alot of people who aren't even criminals and live in a bad neighborhood but call it home. It all depends on the individual. Some are used to living in certain areas because they grew up in that area and are used to it. Others don't.
It can be said witj many slums in third world countries where the eldest of grandpas and grandmas had lived in a certain slum their whole lives because that is home with family and friends. I imagine that Gotham, although not a slum and certainly a rich city, can be considered that too.
most potential and existing small criminals would be too scared of batman to commit crimes by themselves (which is how the big villains manage to get henchmen!)
Why would anyone want to live in Los Santos is a better question.
miller repin its dangerous but nowhere near superhero cities , but it is DANGEROUS THOUGH!
kingpiccolo colin Lets be honest no superhero would live for very long in los santos
miller repin take out the mods, its just Gotham with more human criminals, its an easy job for batman like superheroes, living is another thing.
kingpiccolo colin Batman would get shot in the head as soon he walked out his mansion not only that but these criminals are armed better than the military, having tanks, fighter jets, every kind of gun 9000 bullets for each one. Even the citizens are batshit crazy I shot one guy and the other beat the bleeding man on the ground, if you have a tank and try to start a roadblock the citizens would try to drive past you anyway and only speed up.
miller repin lmfao , dude, i said without cheat-codes, and even if that is possible, batman fights these sort of guys all the time, thats his freakin job..XD! he could beat them in Bruce Wayne form.
I think Gotham looks like a nice place to live
and if you do run into a villian you probably get saved form Batman
Comic Taco Productions Right, and I still feel like the likelihood of running into a villain isn't as great as you'd think.
Honestly I would say you are more likely to run into a villain than Batman... unless you move Gotham to Hollywood where every A-list actor can be Batman =) in which case you probably will need saving FROM Batman as Comic Taco Productions said LOL.
As a side note though, I know I wouldn't be sticking around there unless I was making big dollars from Wayne Enterprises.
I'd move to Gotham...
Would you Run Up to a villain and say "IM NOT AFRAID OF U" And Risk Your Life cuz batman might not come
Right, you do realise joker has literally killed thousands of people that batman could not save
Gotham is new york or any major city in a nutshell crime and death is always on the news yet the city as a whole is a decent place to live and you got better things to worry about than the chance of being killed like the price of rent for one
haha gotham city
Wait wait wait wait...
It snows in Australia?
Denis Elezovic YES I live in Australia 🇦🇺 but it only snows in the blue mountains
I currently live there and can tell you that at the very least it’s never snowed in or around where I live.
But it’s possible like in Canberra and Victoria are cold so yeah maybe
In 2010 and 2006, it snowed in parts of Australia on Christmas and Boxing Days - remembering that Australia is in the southern hemisphere, so that's smack bang in the middle of _summer_
I would imagine in the southern parts at higher altitudes, but nowhere else.
Kind of like how it snows (or just generally gets cold) in Texas every now and then.
@@a.morphous66 Not only at high altitudes, but much more common, yeah. Much of New South Wales, the ACT and Victoria are more akin to a midwestern American state than Texas. I'm in about the middle of rural Victoria, nowhere near the alpine region, and this past winter I had enough snow to the point I'd have to dig my car out. It also snows all over Tasmania, the state off the mainland, which is closer to Oregon or Washington State; Hobart is the only major city in the country that gets a decent amount of snow, though.
I'd add the additional condition that this is a universe full of crazy threats and catastrophes, and living in a city with vigilante protectors might be safer than that other city with a second rate protector, or none at all...
I'm still wondering why people still choose to live in New York city in the Marvel universe.... or even the real one, for that matter.
Love your comment
bigjonfaulkner you know what ? your comment makes SO MUCH SENSE, fictional or real ,it is one of the most dangerous cities in the world that is fact!
Douglas Bonney i know man , he really nailed it with whats real , i mean with the technology we have , we can easily create or evolve spider-man like villains or something , just a thought. Even without that , we still have a dangerous city if we talk about New York.
I mean if depends what part of ny honestly my neighborhood is very friendly and safe so idk
Guess some people like crowds. Then again they often live in an apartment and don't speak to their neighbors, so maybe they don't actually like crowds.
I really enjoy your show.
***** Thank you very much!
I saw your Daredevil/TMNT video it was weird .-.
Jhoy Garcia Haha. Thanks?
Probably the same reason people still live in Detroit or other places with high crime rates and acts of violence.
Chris McWilliams You know, people don´t really live in Detroit. They just flew from it and that is one of the reasons why parts of the city look completely post-apocalyptic. People leave Detroit everyday. Detroit used to have over 1.8 million people living it, right now it most likely below 700,000 ;-)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit#/media/File:Abandoned_Packard_Automobile_Factory_Detroit_200.jpg
Traumglanz Yeah but I bet there are people who were born and raised there who have the attitude that it's their home and they're not going to leave no matter what.
Of course Detroit also doesn't have a psychotic killer clown who can walk out of the mental hospital anytime he feels like it.
Chris McWilliams yea like the Branks and some outher parts of New York, some parts of LA, and were im from Springfield MA and it's nabering city Holyoke MA
***** Yeah, you consider some place home you don't generally want to leave no matter how dangerous to bad it gets.
Chris McWilliams yeah plus alot of people don't have anywere els to go
I saw a comment on a video similar to this and it actually made a pretty good point. Alot of people live there because the educational system in Gotham is top tier. If you think about it around 90% of the supervillians in gotham are doctors and scientists who most are natives to gotham. Hell the Joker, batmans mortal enemy, his girlfriend/love slave is a doctor and she's considered one of the least intelligent (aside from croc maybe) of gothams villians. Mainly because she fell for the joker but still.
Excellent point. WARNING: I'm gonna get a little deep here. We currently live in a world where bad things happen but we limit the thought to those things happening to us because those bad things happen to those people over there. Like the thought that crime only happens in bad neighbor hoods, or that women are attacked because the women were doing something wrong (i.e. the notion of "she was asking for it). Both statements are wrong but so many people still believe it to be true because it re-enforces the idea that their world is safe and predictable.
Stewdippin : Fun Nerdy Videos Every Week Great points, Ricky. Victim-blaming is fairly common and flexible enough to be used on almost any scenario. "Two-Face killed some cops? Well, they shouldn't have been corrupt in the first place!" and other similar ways of thinking. We tell ourselves that the victim had it coming because of what they were doing, how they were acting, etc. Then we try to convince ourselves that we are better than the victims in some way, and that's why we'll be fine.
Anytime someone says the phrase "I'll be careful" when entering a risky situation in a movie or tv show, it almost always goes wrong. The thought process is that the character knows it's a dangerous scenario, but they are better off and safer because apparently everyone else before them wasn't trying to be careful.
I guess it's just a way for us to comfort ourselves instead of being paranoid that bad things that are out of our control could happen to us at any moment of any day.
well this iz a deeper discussion then i thought i would get on a comic video!
i found your comparison of comics to news papers very accurate , in that conflicted storys are wut brings in readers. that being a reflection of people. we tend to dwell on the bad and negative thnigs in our lives opposed to embracing and cherishing the good things.we take the good things for granted and just spend all our time focused on the negative things.
if you read newspapers and watch the news that really iz how it looks. with that i think this line of thinking "it only happens to other people", iz a way for us to cope with all this crazy negativity screaming at our faces. other wise we would be to afraid to do any thing " wanna catch the bus and go to the bar to night?" " do you have any idea how many people die in bus related accidents or how many people get drugg'd at bars? no thanks. thats crazy talk. i've seen the numbers, it could happen to any one!"
we put things in to lil bite size chucks we can digest such as the " thats place can have crime but not my backyard" as a way of protecting our selves from harsh realities.
...well that was a big ramble... great video! much more thought provoking then the title suggested! keep up the great work!!! also yes ppl in gotham are just plain crazy to still be living there. but that crowd gave birth to some of the craziest villains of all time, so i can't be surprised they are still live there.
hi could you do a video on why the joker hasn't got the death penalty or been put into the pentagon because he has killed so many people
+JAKECAKE21 because he is always found innocent for reasons of insanity. I hear there is a comic were Batman actually defends the Joker in court because he does believe that, as a crazy person, the Joker can't be held responsible for his actions
Nah this guy sux!!!!
Gotham is one thing, but Marvel's New York has a ridiculously high hero and super-villain density.
How many times a week can Time Square be destroyed until nobody wants to work there anymore? lol
+Yourson Isold if your working as a construction worker you wouldnt run out of work
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Construction is only needed if someone lives in the buildings :P
The title of this video reminds me of a problem that I have with New York City in Marvel Comics.
There is a cool short story about Speedball. He tries all day to transform into his super hero identity. His powers are based on kinetic energy, so he tries jumping out of buildings, getting hit by cars, being electrocuted, etc. To Speedball's dismay, each time his tries, a random super hero saves him from harm. At the end of the story, he walks into the New Warriors headquarters and asks, "How many super heroes are in this city?" It is meant as a rhetorical question to express his frustration. However, one of his teammates answers. I don't remember the exact quote or number, but the teammate says a number around 115.
I remember another mini-story in a comic book (or it might have been something akin to Mad Magazine) that showed several super heroes literally running, flying, or swinging into each other. The problems become so bad that the city issue traffic cops on floating platforms to direct the abundant super hero activity.
Just as one might ask, "Why do people still live in (insert super hero city) because of the rampant exotic crime?", I have wondered, "Why are so many people still trying to commit crimes in New York, since the place has so many damn super heroes?"
I understand that Marvel operated (at the time) primarily from New York City. It can be more interesting for both the authors and the readers to explore stories about real world local places. New York is a huge territory, with unique neighborhoods, politics, history, and ethic groups. On the one hand, New York as a lot to offer.
On the other hand, some of the heroes that regularly operate in New York area are Spider-Man, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Punisher, Fantastic Four, Avengers, New Warriors, and the X-Men. There are also the minor teams, like Heroes for Hire, the Mighty Avengers, and Power Pack. Of course, there are still the regular police and FBI forces to contend with.
With all those heroes in and around New York, the biggest crimes should be misdemeanors, like jaywalking and littering, or white collar crimes, like embezzlement and identity theft. What thief believes he can rob a bank or snatch a purse with over 100 heroes running around? LOL
Well... Some of us ride horses everywhere, some guy took one to a car wash.
I don't know about Texans but in Oklahoma we drive cars and we don't fight Indians(but I do lose money to them in their casinos)
Really good analysis and message about society and psychology. Absolutely loved it!
Gotham’s architecture and aesthetic is so interesting that I would choose to move there honestly...
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harlemdeni Awesome! Thanks!
+harlemdeni Me 2 man!
I am an Australian and I live in Queensland (one of the states in the top section, aka the hot place) and Tasmania (a state in the bottom of Australia) snows almost all year round. The stereotype that Australia is a hot place everywhere is completely false. Great video Scott!
I live in Australia. I can confirm that it does snow, I've just never, ever, ever, ever, ever seen it. Okay, perhaps I can't confirm, but I've heard stories from friends and family about it snowing in places like the Blue Mountains.
+DarkTitan you heard the legends.
In Melbourne Mt.Bulla is snow filled. I know I live in Melbourne
If you merge all the comic universes together, Gotham is just another city, and possibly relatively safe.
New York, Avengers
Chicago, Transformers 3
Both were completely destroyed and people were vaporized randomly.
I mean, sure, it would suck to be caught in the building that Scarecrow attacks, but maybe you'll end up with a bad night to forget.
Cool topic all though it could have been answered way quicker. Why do people still live in Detroit ?
best comment, period
Actually that's a really good point
This guy right here....
That's actually a very good question
They are to poor to move out, or if they have enough money they might get shot for having that money in the first place.
Why do people still live in Gotham? A chance to meet the batman of course! Maybe even an autograph?
And go where?
Coast City to be killed by Mongul? Star City to be killed by Prometheus? Central City to die of a heart attack due to the fast pace of life?
I live in Australia and it does snow here. But only in the coldest of Winters, in the south, on top of mountains. Seriously, you have to drive so high to get to snow it's scary.
Most of the people that Batman deals with are more interested in robbing you than leveling several city blocks. Even when the Joker kills 5 or 10 people it makes the evening news and is forgotten by the end of the month in a city of millions, just like in LA or New York today. The average Gothamite doesn't have to deal with the full Batman level craziness very often. The people who live in whatever city the power rangers happen to live in are, in contrast, quite crazy. Their city gets half-leveled once a week in fights between giant robots and monsters that probably leave hundreds dead at best. There is no reasonable expectation of safety there and every reason to expect imminent death or financial ruin unless you are in the construction business and even then the city would run out of money within a month so you wouldn't get paid.
Kevin Wilson Absolutely love this comment!
Also marvels New York is actually fairly safe I mean there must be hundreds of heroes there and they generally get there before you would die so..
This was a really good episode. The cognitive bias section struck home for me; I was a young-earth creationist for way too much of my life.
I ask this question every time I think about Detroit.
You always bring up very interesting and rational points, Scott. As a longtime comic book fan, I love your videos!
I think that you're perfectly right saying that are view of Gotham is altered.
I really enjoy your videos because you don't just tell us your opinion, you research information on something and then you elaborate a theory with it, well done!
Well, Joker taking a joyride through the city and flipping a truck probably doesn't rate very high as an inconvenience for the majority of Gotham's residents, but by the third film the entire city has been cut off from the outside world and taken over by terrorists. That kind of large scale complete societal breakdown is probably not something you can simply shrug off as "not my problem" and keep going about your everyday life.
It'll probably cause some of them to have to take a longer path in there daily commute
Decent people shouldn't live here in Gotham. They'd be happier someplace else-Jack Napier, Batman 1989
I like how citizens of Gotham are introduced as “fighters” or “knights”
Citizens of New York are called “New Yorkers” and Citizens of Gotham are called “Gothamites”
Gotham + knights = Gothamites
Imagine getting used to living in a city that's regularly terrorized by a killer psychopathic clown or a monster that's half man & half crocodile, multiple mob bosses one of which has a bird fetish and actually ran for mayor, and is full of giant ridiculous statues
Actually in most cases it's stated pretty clearly that Gotham City in particular is crime ridden and that it had devolved into a cesspool of crime years before the bat showed up. When the Waynes were alive it was considered a golden age in Gotham and for most it was a somewhat prosperous time. But the crime kept getting worse, eventually culminating in the events that gave crime alley it's name. After that shining light of hope for the city was extinguished, the crime got worse until it pretty much took over and either heavily influenced or dominated most aspects of Gotham life.
Here is another thought, what is Bruce Wayne\Batman is an unreliable narrator. The comics are from Batman's perspective, perhaps he sees the world worse then it really is. In Bruce's mind perhaps everything is exaggerated. The whole concept of his universe makes sense then. There aren't any "super villians" we are just seeing a caricature of the criminals he's fighting in his own mind. A good film example is Sucker Punch. What if in the context of Batman we are getting his Sucker Punch version of Gotham. Otherwise don't you think Superman and every other super hero would have put the Hall of Justice smack in the middle of Gotham? That due to the huge blight that Gotham had become you'd have a dozen+ super heroes working the place? The only thing that makes the status quo possible, is it is mostly in Bruce's head. How else does a 12 year old side kick survive? What if Bruce is in a mental ward, Gordon is the sympathetic orderly, Robin's is another patient, Barbra is another orderly working with her dad. The Joker and the rogue gallery other patients. Even if he isn't he might be exaggerating everything and that is what we see. He may well be part of the Justice League, he might well be as skilled as he is portrayed, but perhaps his vision of Gotham itself is warped.
No
Intercourse Records yes
and superman is a cancer patient that just day dreams everything, wonder woman is actually just a ghost of a little girl that died 2 years ago
Idgarad Lyracant Even if all the comics that follow Batman are from his perspective (which would be really odd with all the scenes he's not in), there are many other characters active in the city that have comics based around them and the atmosphere is generally the same. Even the ones that follow villains.
This is very true but it begs an even bigger problem, if it is as bad, the response from the world and the neglect of Gotham becomes more problematic. It's never really explained why Gotham is more or less abandoned by not only the government, but the Justice League, other super heroes, etc. It's a comic book problem since the status quo must be maintained, the story problem is exacerbated more so then. However, perhaps it is we the reader who get an entire "caricature" perspective of the world. Imagine the DC world is real, but is far more toned down then we see via the comics. Everything is amp'ed up from what it really is but the translation to comic book format, the background citizens are living in the 'real' world of the DV universe but we read the distorted amp'ed up version.
He's got a point. I live in Israel, which in general is a lot safer than the US (murder rate 1.8 vs. 4.7 for the US vs. 6.2 worldwide), although you'd never know it from the news.
mzk1 Thank you for that insight!
I remember my uncle telling me something similar. When he was deployed during the Gulf War( I don't remember where.)there was almost nothing happening most of the time. But some days there might be a few hours of real fighting but then nothing for weeks.
They can easily do it Sherlock Holmes style though---Batman is bored to death because nothing is going on, it is peaceful and stuff. Then something happens. That will establish that Gotham is normally peaceful.
Well, the comics are about Batman, what you're describing is a comic about Bruce Wayne. Think about that.
+Atomic Robo Tesla Doesn't have to be. Batman can just fly around the city, and help old lady cross the road.
Or simply in the Batcave watching porn...or just survelliance for the first 5 min of the comic, quickly mentioning that it's being peaceful for days, hope things stay this way.
Then BAM, things happen!
DarthAlphaTheGreat That last example makes it look like Gotham is _not_ normally calm, but a comic where Bruce is just doing surveillance/relaxing/helping out random people would work.
+Atomic Robo Tesla If you read Sherlock Holmes without going to London. Would you think London is a dangerous place?
No!
Because it is quite explicit in the story that cases happen very far apart and nothing happens in between.
DarthAlphaTheGreat Yes, but it's made clear in the books that case-splving is one of Sherlock's main ways of entertaining himself, so all you need to do is show him bored at the start of the book and/or mention a lack of cases to get that across. However, Batman doesn't find entertainment through crime-fighting the same way Sherlock does (in fact, he would probably be grateful for a few days with no big crimes), so showing him bored because of it is just strange for him. Your first example of how to do it was great (helping people with little things, lazing around, etc.), but the second example just doesn't quite get the message across since it'll just end up like a regular issue.
It makes so much sense what he said in this, in comics, we only see the exciting stuff happen, so if a story has the joker escaping and then being caught, then the very next story has him escaping again, it could of been weeks or a few months since the last story took place but we only see the action, same in tv shows, they live normal lives and only occasionally we see the things that they get into abnormally, like cops shows could of had a bunch of petty crimes between big cases but we only ever get to peer in on the big stuff and never the day to day "boring" stuff
The population one could be a biggie. I often heard about how crime infested real life cities like NYC or LA are. But a huge amount of people live in those cities, and so when that is taken into account, the amount of crime compared to the population is actually lower then many other places.
I still live in Gotham, er I mean Detroit...
Actually it's more of a New Jersey
I'm surprised you don't have giant transforming robots( Transformers Animated Series)
@@anarchomando7707 and Chicago all in one
Why doesn't the Federal government get involved?
Because it isn't a national issue......
Bad guys block the city off and gas everyone. You'd think the State or Federal government would notice this and step in.
Jonathan Petrosky It isn't a federal issue. >_> State would make sense, Federal government would involved then you are asking for big brother to take over.
Would makes sense for the Government to send some agents in to investigate why such crimes are happening.
Jonathan Petrosky Because government Always is the solution to crime yet big government is shown to be failure.
Why do people still live in america in the dc and marvel universe
I live in New Jersey, a state with high gun control and high amounts of shootings in its cities. Trenton, Camden, Newark, Atlantic City etc are known for being violent slums yet people still live there and have pride in their homes. Taxes in this state make it difficult to afford to live here and you are taxed if you try to move out. People still love it here and there is much to see. Coming from NYC I see first hand how people have Jersey Pride.
I just went through all the Joker related comics I either own or remembered and read online and so far the number of on screen Joker kills have racked up to over 200. Furthermore, I barely even touched any comics prior the 1980s. If one criminal could do this I can imagine at least 500 casualties just with the combination of the big leagues like Penguin, Ras, and Dent and with a little imagination, 1000 in total from Batman's entire rogue gallery. Since Gotham's population is speculated to be 10 million, that could mean 1% of Gotham's population. 1% is a crazy number and if I lived in Gotham, I would GTFO as fast as possible.
Honestly, Detroit seems worse than Gotham and people still live there. Why? Probably poverty, it's expensive and risky to move.
Knight fall bane took the city and locked off the city "oh it's long weekend"
liam deering Hahaha
Is this really even a question? People still live in Kuwait, Baghdad, etc... Think about how awful some of the places in the Middle East, and Africa are? Some of these places have been fighting some sort of battle/war for years, and normal people still live there... So the whole "why do people still live in Gotham" question just doesn't really even hold any water.
Another Big question why Can't Batman Ask Superman To wipe out the Crime in Gotham City? Especially Since Superman Saves the Entire world why does he Make an exemption to Gotham?
I belive gotham was a very productive city. Skycraper buildings were always related to extensive economic activity. So it can be a city of job opportunities.
I will like to live were flash lives because the city doesn't get attempted to blow up more then others:) if. I was in a superhero world
I live in Australia and my dad went to the snow in Australia:)
your right it just gets giant black holes and particle accelerator explosions there.
+Zule Zule lmfao
Is that Central City or Star City?
You’ll still have to deal with costumed criminals and villainous speedsters.
In reference to the note about our own cognitive biases it is worth pointing out that we don’t live in a world where super powers are a thing. One has to consider that, in the marvel and DC universes, dangers the likes of which we know nothing are everywhere. No matter where you live, you have probably been exposed to the idea of super villains going on killing sprees because super villains exist here. In our own world, one risks a much higher murder rate if one makes the decision to move to a bigger city but that doesn’t play into most of our decisions to live in places like New York or LA. The same is true in Gotham. It has a high population. It’s a tech hub. It’s an economic hub due to the wayne’s presence there. Gotham has all the hallmarks of a high demand city, and, like all such cities, crime rises as population rises. It’s just that, in comic book universes, the stakes are higher to begin with. I know I’m mixing mythologies here but Asgard, for instance, crashed in Broxton, Oklahoma so one doesn’t escape the cosmic drama of living in a comic book universe by living in a small town. When you are born and live every day on the same planet as a whole class of people who could rip you to shreds with a thought, it will fundamentally change the way that you assess risk. Instead of comparing Gotham to cities on our planet, one should think of comparing it to smaller towns in the DC universe. I’d say that Gotham probably compares to Smallville about the same way that New Jersey compares to Oklahoma, and people probably live there for the same reason people live in New Jersey. They grew up there, or they moved there for the economic opportunity, or they got a job for Wayne Industries and were transferred there, or they were stationed there in the military, or whatever other reason that people move from small, crime free towns, to larger, higher crime cities anywhere.
Norrin Radd I think you're right. There are likely kinds who grew up in a world where superheroes and super villains exist, so it's just a part of normal life for them. Probably a terrible analogy, but I look at my little nephews who are all less than 5 years old and can use smart phones and iPads with ease where my parents have a hard time understanding them. Not sure if that really applies to anything you said, but it made me think about it. Kids are growing up with awesome technology and just accepting it as a part of their world. I hope that makes sense.
Very good line of reasoning. And I think very accurate too.
They stay because the property valuers are insanely low, I don't have to tell you why. As a result, Gotham is full of very poor people who can't afford to move to sunny Metropolis.
+blackburn9 Metropolis most be worst, is constantly attacked by ALIENS
Luppercus Yes, you're probably right, but would you agree that People in Metropolis enjoy a city with higher property values and it has far less slums and its people are generally upper middle-class? In Gotham, WHY they stay is more likely linked to an economic inability to move from where they can afford to a place they cannot.Which is why most stay. That or within Gotham's upper classes its better to stay in a city that is tolerant of corrupt businessmen, politicians, police and corporate bankers, etc...And while its true Metropolis has attacking Aliens, it also has Superman and he's universally appreciated much more than Batman who mostly operates as a vigilante enforcer who uses torture, violence and obtains confessions through beatings and violating every civil rights, property and personal in the book to get results. Don't get me wrong I like Batman, I'm just saying Gotham's rate of poverty probably has more to do with its people staying.
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yes I get what you're saying and agree, but I doubt all Metropolis is from high middle class to high class, probably also has some areas that are very poor, just not shown
+Luppercus It has been mentioned in some Superman titles that there is at least one small slum area. But how often does Metropolis feature anyone that's on skid row. The whole population of Metropolis seems to feature people pulling in 6 figures, everyone's in nice suits, or nice attire, the women all wear the latest fashions and the scientists are all incredibly well funded. Actually Marvel's version of New York would be an insane place to remain living given the constant battles, I mean the accumulated radiation exposure from all the different highly potent energy expenditures from heroes and villains ought to be enough to ramp up cancer rates and infertility should be sky high.
Hi Scott, I am Australian who loves visiting the snow every year. It is honestly my favourite sport. I can send photographic proof as well as link you to ski resorts here. It amazing fun and as beautiful as snow anywhere else!
7:08 Holy, I had no idea that a massive urbanized landscape was THAT close to the great pyramids. I thought there was a lot of desert space between the two, such as like the distance represented by the lower half of the photo. Even then I didn't think a city next to it would be that huge.
simple answer: THE BATMAN WILL KEEP YOU SAFE!!!
Well said...
@@thebatman911 are you batman
@@benbro1518 I am The "one and only" Batman. I'm still here...
@@thebatman911 im a batman fan
@@benbro1518 I appreciate that! Gotham needs more citizens like you.
housing and property rates are cheep in Gotham that is why they live in Gotham
Except insurance rates would be through the roof...
plucas1 Ha Ha yes and they will say we dont cover damage by Clayface
Why do people live in Chicago?
Zsasz, Pyg, Joe Chill, the seemingly thousnds of thugs that do the work of hundreds of villains...
Yeah, it's not JUST the major villains like Bane, Killer Croc, Joker, or Scarecrow.
Gotham Resident: "Oh, look, a dead body! Welp...that's Gotham."
Well look at Detroit practically the same reaction
People live in Gotham coz they can´t handel the stres of live in South Park
Kim Rasmussen True story.
*****:D yaih ... a responce from the Chife
Ok, but lets see you wiggle your way out of this one. Why do parents send their kids to Hogwarts?
+Rob Lena Well, for wizard kids there really isn't any better place to go, unless you want to move to another country. For muggleborn children, really, would you deny your kid a chance to become a wizard for ANY reason? Like, that'd be the most dickish parenting move ever. "Sorry son, I know you've got this extremely rare chance to learn about magic and monsters, but I'd rather you hit the books and become an accountant."
David Provencher Why would they have to move to another country? Don't they have magic that can transport them through time and space? First their was a troll, ok mistakes happen and some times they are very big mistakes that can eat your kids. A year later there is a basilisk. Then an escaped convict makes its way into hogwarts. After a while you find out voldemort was the cause of these problems. So if your kid doesn't get killed by this they will probably die by the tri-wizard tournament. Yeah kid you have to fight a dragon now, good luck. Or quiddich which its a freaking miracle no one has died by that but they are playing russian roulette with that one. Sure I understand the fascination with learning about these other worlds but maybe an accountant isn't that bad of a job if it means your kid is safe.
I typed up this huge response before I decided that it really wasn't worth my time to finish. If you really don't get why people would go to Hogwarts, then nothing I say would convince you.
+Rob Lena Well, maybe the parents don't actually know about the risks of going into hogwarts, or maybe the years depicted are the exception rather than the rule for normal hogwarts years. In fact on books, 1 and 4 the normal hogwart student wouldn't have many risks to their lives, nor would they perceive a great amount of danger.
If you stop to think about it, most of the events (if not all), happen around Harry Potter (which is to expect for a protagonist), you don't find out about ravenclaws adventures, or if some Hufflepuffs get lost in the woods. For all that we know, most of the other students just go to class like any other school, and don't face many dangers.
+Rob Lena Besides, there other more practical reasons, for example: It seems to be the only wizard school on the whole country, which is a Huge monopoly, so, if you want to do anythign magical, well, Even if the place were to be a warzone, it could very much be worth it. And when you think about it, Wizard parents are even more forced to send their children there, sicne every good job depicted on the Harry Potter Universe uses magic. If they didn't learn magic there, they would not get to learn any magic at all, which would mean that they don't get to have any good job. These parents also estudied in Hogwarts from an early age, (11 years old) so they lack much knowledge of more practical things, such as math or biology. For them, being wizard is all that there is in the world, otherwise, you are filthy Muggle.
Yes it snows in Australia, but only in some small places like near Canberra. Most everywhere else it just rains and on occasion (bad weather) it might hail. That's about it. Plus it's lovely here.
One thing I've always thought about too is if Gotham IS really a terrible place to live can you even afford to move? Who is going to buy your house that got scarecrow gassed last month. Can you afford rent in a city that's not regularly getting blown up?
Down in Australia we have these things we sometimes call "mountains". But you might call them oversized hills, but it does snow up there occasionally. I've been up one... took a rock home.... It was not worth the walking.
This reminds me of a short story in Astro City, (vol. 1, I believe) A man moves to Astro City with his young daughters, a weather god attacks on the first night and wreaks his neighbourhood, and he sees the amazing spirit of the comunity and the moral values his daughters can learn, and decides not to turn tail and run away like most of us would.
Great read, by the way, highly recomend the hole series.
i live in australia and to clarify the snowing it usually only occurs in the colder seasons (obvious) in the sou eastern parts of the country where it's cold enough and still enough moister in the air to snow, but the snow usually only envelopes the areas in higher altitudes, so if you want to have a snow day in australia you have to be in the southern easter parts of australia in high altitude areas.hopefully that discredits your disbelief :D
I think they love Gotham. They love their special city their grand fathers had lived in it. They at least used to it and try to use the chaos for themselves and if they coudnt they can be a part of the chaos. I mean the chaos can be a solution for them.
Couple of things mate:
1; Not sure if you got it in the States on your international news, but it was bloody cold recently, and there was snow. I have also snowboarded on real snow at a snow park in NSW.
2; This video has another argument in the "for living in Gotham" column hen relating it to the upcoming Dawn of Justice movie and that Earths ongoing Universe.
At SDCC15, Snyder said that Metropolis and Gotham are "sister cities", separated by a river. People who live in Gotham apparently commute to Metropolis on a daily basis as Metropolis has a lot more of the high end business districts, hence why one of the the Wayne Group towers got destroyed in the events of Zod.
I just thought it was a very interesting concept, as (I never have seen a map of the DC USA) I always envisioned Metropolis on the East Coast and Gotham on the West.
Thoughts?
I think part of the problem is that we don't ever see benefits of Gotham.
Even other superhero series often portray their cities as nice places with the occasional supervillain. Metropolis is usually portrayed as a "City of Tomorrow" with a clean high tech appearance and monorails all over. In between Lexcorp, STAR Labs, and many other companies, it looks like there are lots of places to work, and a vibrant economy. Lex can make enough money to run a war on superman without bankrupting his company. It makes me think of Silicon valley combined with the Golden Age of US manufacturing.
Gotham is portrayed as filled with criminals and corrupt to the core. The GCPD makes Chicago's finest look like paragons of justice, and the crime rate is Detroit level. Consider that Batman is regularly busting crooks and he's not making a dent, and villains regularly break out of prison. To go with this, you have a city that is as run down as NYC under Dinkins. There's just no upside to Gotham vs. another city.
Facts thank you.
I've only been to the snow once in Aus, it does but the snow is quite far from cities and suburbs like Mt Bulla
Australia has a lot of desert. As you would know, a desert can get very hot during the day and very cold during the night. They flood more often than you might think and you can get snow too.
If you get heavy snow during a hot day, then you need top climb up onto the roof and shovel it off, otherwise it can melt so quickly your roof can collapse.
Most years, however, it's just peaceful and normal here.
Also I like to point out where would they move metropolis? Keystones? as far as I am concern Gotham is the most stable place to live in the DC comics
It does actually snow in Australia however, it does so only in high altitude places like on top of mountains. There is a mountian range called the Snowy Mountains and it's called this cause, well it's a mountain where it snows every winter. It also snows in Tasmania as well cause that state is far enough south near the antartic for it but again more so on top of mountains. There are more places dotted about that will get cold enough for frost to appear on the ground over night during winter but this doesn't happen often but it can happen.
At some points in Australia it can get really cold but heating costs a lot, like a bunch so if you're going to live there then bring a jumper