Karlie Redd & Spice 💔 Who Should Be Held Accountable? 👀 Love & Hip Hop: Atlanta
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- The breakdown of Spice & Karlie Redd's friendship impacts a group outing once again.
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Spice has a point even Joseline attacked her tried fighting her several times and she still never acted like she was scared of Joseline....
Cause she guilty
Joseline *apologized* for those incidents (even though I think those apologies were fake). So did Sierra. Spice, on the other hand, has *NOT* apologized for threatening and trying to attack Karlie; she won't even admit that she did it. If Karlie doesn't feel safe around Spice, that's why.
@@WestIndianAK the point was even before Joseline apologized she never acted scared to be around Joseline or Seira
@@WestIndianAKbut Sierra apologized way after & so did joseline
@@WestIndianAK I think what ur missing even prior to Joseline ever apologizing she still never at any point acted like she was scared and Joseline wouldn't let her talk either until Joseline got ready to speak and this is just a fact!!!!
Karlie throws rocks and hides her hands. And the fact that yall don’t see that is insane. Also stop lying that Spice attacked you
She's *NOT* lying. Spice *did* attack Karlie. She tried to run up on her in the Bahamas; she just couldn't get hands on her because *Shekinah held her back* and the *security blocked her* from getting to Karlie. Watch the damn footage, FFS 🙄
Facts Spice already explained what happened on her live between her and Karlie
Wys
PLEASE CLOCK IT
Clock it
Lets do a break down here...
1. Karlie went behind Spice's back and submitted a song they did together without Spice's knowledge & when confronted about the situation, Karlie tried to pin it on Meda as if Meda should've told Spice.
2. When Spice had the listening party & Karlie invited that producer lady to hear an UNFINISHED song which Karlie knew was unfinished & she still played it even tho Spice told her it wasn't ready.
3. The house situation, Spice & Karlie had a conversation a year prior to that, Spice told Karlie she didn't feel comfortable with Karlie moving next door to her, Karlie went behind Spice's back AGAIN & got the house & made the neighbors sign NDA'S, & now she's renting out the house to strange ppl who could do anything.
4. When Spice & her old man broke up, Karlie started inviting the dudes side chick out to events knowing the woman was messing with Spice's man... Karlie has overstepped her boundaries with Spice on SOOO many occasions & nobody calls her out for it... But when Spice has had enough & decides to snap, she's playing "victim", she doesn't want to take accountability... For what?? Karlie is messy, she's a user, & she's crossed too many lines. (Sorry for this long ssa post 😂, but I'm just sick of this riding for Karlie bandwagon, she is not innocent!)
This is the one!
Right!!! it's funny how Karlie threw the words like " that's my sister" and family etc. Karlie even had her daughter at one point calling her auntie Spice. When she was in any relationship and her friends found out about cheating, they informed her, but now she doesn't have the decency to inform her " sister". No one was taking Karlie seriously with her music career they laughed did she remember that. Who helped her?
This post rite here was dead on enough said this pretty much sums everything up frfr👏🏾👏🏾
Oh and let's not forget Karlie blocking everyone out of the communication when Spice was having health complications. She told them Spice didn't want them there
Thank you for this post as I was so confused how they even fell out 😂
Bambi is so annoying. Where is Momma Dee.
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🤣🤣 Rrrright! Mama Dee dat azz
Right I see what scrappy mean. Bambi is a horrible person 😂
@@rai2423 she was gaslighting Spice so much.
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Karlie is scared cause she yelling at her but Karlie is always yelling at someone, Bambi is always on the WRONG side.
Because Bambi’s morals are always mad messed up
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@Rudeytabooty be quiet.
Exactly Because Karlie is kissing her 🍑 at the moment, but last season she laughed at Karlie when she was crying at her daughter's baby shower
Bambi don't even act like she has seirra back at all Bambi is always causing drama also
I feel Spice. I hate when people poke the bear and get mad when the bear growls instead of being grateful that the bear didn’t maul you. You knew it was a bear when you poked.
Well, maybe she need to take her ass back to Jamaica
Maybe she thought it was a teddy bear 😂😂😂
😂😂 be grateful the bear didn't mul you😂chile you knew it was a bear😂im rolling laughing
Bruh😂😂😂@@MrsHall38
Karlie already know she don't want a bite from spice..how she scared of spice but she continue to be in the same room with her 🧐 you continually speaking her name ?!
Bambi is annoying and Karlie is a manipulator playing the victim and I’m tired of this spice storyline period
It's not spice fault.
Unpopular opinion- I LOVE the way Kirk treats spice. Doesn’t overstep his boundaries with her while he’s still married but he just shows genuine brotherly love
He loves spice and so does rasheeda. They always gonna step behind her
He had sex with her
He had sex with her numerous times
I feel the same way and I also feel like there way more to it that’s being shown bc Karlie is Shystie
Fr but spice do need to clam down
I noticed that brotherly love he shows her too.
Also over karlie being on my tv. Moving across the street from somebody is a bit much
Karlie is always starting stuff and then playing victim. I can't stand her!
Spice is a problem! Everyone knows how Karlie is but she isn’t a threat.
@@SamsP.O.V-hd7rbstop the excuses, karlie dead ass wrong
@@niyyboutique3704what did Karlie do wrong to spice???
Yeah, she splashed the bomb and « oh I dont understand her, I dont recognize her » Stop that please Karlie, u both karibean you know the way Spice express and now you say she attacks you???! Come on girl!
Girl I think they both Victimize themselves!
They both should be held accountable. Spice can be manipulative when she’s wrong and Karlie’s just flat out messy and extra 😂
i feel for spice she is just really frustrated. she just needs to get off the show for her own mental and karlie needs to stop acting like a mf victim all the time
Cuz she like you need to stop
Spice is full of s*** and she's no victim ..so cut it out with the BS
I agree
No, *Spice* needs to stop playing the victim. Look at what happened in this scene! *KARLIE DIDN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING,* and Spice still flipped out on her!!! *SMDH*
Exactly!
Karlie is not scared or feel threatened. Karlie is trying to get spice kicked off the show with this “she attacked me” and “I’m the victim” ACT. That’s it that’s all.
It seem they all tired of spice on the show dem a hypocrite
THANK YOU!!!
@@sashamarson1762only Karlie redd, jessica and Bambi. No one else they love spice.
If Spice was gonna attack her. Spice would have been off and getting ready leap around the floor to her lol. The HUGE space between them not to mention the people between and Karlie acting scared that Spice " attacked" her.
For one they all need to stop putting their personal lives out in the street telling everybody their personal business about their relationships. What goes on in your household between your husband is nobody’s business reality show or not you tell one person the next person tell that person the next person telling that person and everybody know your business, and then you look around a sleeping with your man
I’m on team Spice. Especially after seeing Karlie be messy after all these years.
Can we get Tokyo or Joseline back to handle karlie reds accordingly ?
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I miss Tokyo!!! 😭
Definitely need Tokyo
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Toyko just whooped her ass and she had to keep it moving. She never demanded accountability.
Karlie and Spice are both Caribbean. Caribbean women usually speak loudly when we get passionate… Karlie knows wassup, she playing victim
Karlie barely Caribbean she was born in America but you’re right she does know she does this a lot she’s gaslighting tf outta Spice knowing she started it
@@Trinityychristine💯
Karlie is a born yank. Loool😂
Any and Everybody can get loud. And so does Karly but she plays victim a lot and get quiet
Wrong. 'm form a Caribbean family too, but this idea that someone's harmless when they say "I'm gonna bust you in your head when the cameras stoop rolling" is for the birds. When a turnt-up Jamaican says something like that to you, they usually mean business.
It's not deflecting when the example actually fits... Sierra bopped TF outta Karlie and aint scared of her!
And many others and she’s not scared. Karlie redd just beat up Mariah Lynn in Jamaica.
Did Sierra keep on being aggressive afterwards? Did Sierra turn everyone else against her. Spice is more aggressive than Sierra, so yes she could be scared that the next time she spazzes out she can actually beat her up. Y’all comparing Sierra to Spice like bfr. Y’all stay acting oblivious and take things way to literal
@@kav1111 you’d be mad at someone you considered a friend/sister who betrayed your trust and never apologized for it but want to play victim like it’s your fault.
Y’all give Karlie too many excuses
@@AdomasAspen it’s not about that. And I agree with you. But Spice never claimed the main reason is cos of the makeup artist situation. So her main issue isn’t about betraying her trust. Spice is just doing way too much, and I’ve been a fan of hers for 10 years. She’s changed and she’s so bitter.
@@kav1111 well it doesn’t matter because they did something I didn’t think would happen, Spice apologized first and I guess it’s squashed!
karlie is the prime example of victim complex. She provokes this woman to anger and then when she gets a reaction she pretends like it's Spice being a bully. Smh grown as hell acting like that
“ that’s how I talk “😂😂😂only us Caribbean people would understand fr
Nah I'm carribean and I don't talk like that so idk why she keep saying that. Not everyone is aggressive
Bulllshit! I'm form a Caribbean family too, but this idea that someone's harmless when they say "I'm gonna bust you in your head when the cameras stoop rolling" is for the birds. When a turnt-up Jamaican says something like that to you, they usually mean business.
so glad it was her Caribbean sister, like how they love to say black Americans don't like them. Spice remember Erica, u used the colorism card, now ur so called friend is using the victim card. Karma!
Well everyone has their own way of talking…..
@@tabiagebre8168😂 What?? Erica called her a monkey off that fact that she’s a dark skinned woman. Insiders said they cut the cameras for Erica and told her to stop calling Spice and monkey, turned the cameras back on and Erica continued to call her a monkey! Let’s stop acting like colorism and racism isn’t the reason why Erica called her that! There are plenty Latinos that have spoken out about the racism and light skinned favoritism in their community
Karlie has been in actual physical altercations. I don’t think she’s actually scared of Spice. Spice however should have just left the show after her number 1 album. When you stay past your peak in love and hip hop you become the villain
Yep
Like guys Spice stays playing victim, remember when she bleached her skin because people were hating on her being dark
@@mtombomagadla8399no she didn't
What actual physical altercations has Karlie ever been a part of??! Because I’ve only ever seen her run her mouth about someone and when that someone confronts her about it she’ll either continue running her mouth while hiding behind security, or, she’ll throw a drink or something while hiding behind security, I’ve never seen her throw hands ever! The only “sort of” physical altercation was in Jamaica with that whole debacle with Paris supposedly attacking Karlie, which they never showed, and then Karlie sneaking Mariah Lynn because Karlie thought Mariah was attacking her when she was on the ground within the Paris debacle. And no one from LHH has explained why Paris was sent home for attacking Karlie, YET Karlie was not sent home for attacking Mariah Lynn and then later on (a couple episodes later, I believe) Lyrica was sent home for attacking Shekinah. Why exactly was Karlie given special treatment!!??! If the rules are the rules and they apply to everyone then Karlie’s butt should’ve been on the next flight, just like Paris, headed back to Atlanta.
You see they didn’t have to tell Cardi twice. She got her deal and bounced 😊
I’d be frustrated too if someone was obviously gaslighting me & everyone else was playing dumb.
I think Karlie crossed the line when she moved next door to her. She did a lot to bring the worst out in spice. And now spice can't hide her anger
That’s exactly what happened and you know what that friendship is not gonna be able to be repaired.
Yandy said it perfectly. Someone you don’t give a f*ck about should not affect you so much. I know Spice has issues pertaining to the color of her skin. I don’t think she wants to be friends with Karlie ever again, but she wants to prove to everyone around that she isn’t someone to be afraid of. With Karlie playing the victim and Bambi telling her she was too loud -triggered her. She’s tired of the loud, aggressive, dark skinned narrative. Spice needs to just walk away and deal with her issues. AND they need to dead this storyline bc we’re all tired. 😴
Exactly. Karlie been this way for years- being on tv definitely didn’t help. Just leave Spice.
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Karlie isn't the only one "playing the victim" here. Who's the one who was in tears in this scene, crying about how people supposedly portray her as a bully? Who's the one who had to have, like, 6 people around her comforting her?? Who's the one who was saying she wanted to leave the trip??? Who's the one who flipped out and started yelling and cussing *without Karlie even saying anything* at the table?!?
Spice does care for Karlie that’s why she’s so hurt
I greatly believe Spice never saw Karlie the same way post what Karlie did with the entire daughter and house situation. Karlie creeped Spice the hell out, that what we seeing now is Spice going through a PTSD triggering moment. And sadly, I think the crew never really understood where Spice was coming from when crying out about how creepy it is for Karlie to have bought her daughter her house opposite Spice's. I swear as a viewer too, i never saw Karlie the same way since then. She needs seek therapy. No normal human clearly without abondonment issues moves like that.😏
Karlie has been slapped in the face with flower, mushed in the face as well, but Spice never touched her, but she was attacked. Let's not forget she is always starting some shat to get her in that position in the first place. Spice should just stop entertaining trash behavior. Karlie knows how to hustle the game.
Spice is right. Karlie acts as if she is scared of her when she had an actual fight with Sierra and isn't scared of her. Karlie is a manipulator and user. Spice was the only person that believed in her and defended her when she had no one. I feel for Spice.
And karlie just hit Mariah Lynn in Jamaica in the head
For Karlie to mention accountability to ANYONE is wild. Furthermore, she steady acting like a victim.
Karlie definitely started this shit...now she wanna be passive. Be as BOLD AS U WERE WHEN U BOUGHT THE HOUSE NEXT TO SPICE KNOWING SHE TOLD U NOT TO!!!!!
How did Karlie start this
Spice needs to take accountability
@@quintinsmth4287she literally moved right next to Spice’s house (not that Spice really had a problem with it until Karlie decided to act shady and make the neighbors sign a NDA) and not only that she’s not even using that house and sold it to people who make her feel like her children can’t even go outside since they’re doing drugs 😭 Karlie needs to be held accountable more than Spice right now, this is the reason why she keeps doing it cause no isn’t holding her accountable
Karlie can buy a home wherever she wants Spice don’t own the street/community
Or control Karlie
@@betterwithwinebetterwithwi2359 😭 it’s not like she couldn’t buy that house, it’s how the way she did was shady?? Like why make the neighbors sign a NDA if it wasn’t that serious and if they were so cool
Spice has acted this SAME WAY when she's gotten into it with anyone Tokyo, Akbar, Shekinah.. etc. No one called her a bully then , but now since it's Karlie she's a bully ? Gtfooh !
You don’t think spice is a bully ? There was no reason for her to keep yelling she been yelling for the last two seasons. She clearly going through something . There is more to this
@@longbranch11207 she's a bully bc she yells ? Does Karlie not yell every 5 minutes? That means that more than half the cast are bullies cause ppl yell on this show every episode. Like I just said she's been this way since the beginning why is she a bully NOW?
Exactly and they seem to forget that Karlie was a bully towards Mariahlyn the moment the girl came
Or any other time Karlie was being inspector gadget or inserting herself into people's business and try to bully folks. Karlie is getting her just desserts and has no one to blame but who she sees in the mirror daily
THIS!!!! THIS!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
Everyone just babies spice 😂 she’s a GROWN WOMAN
I'm so glad these comments are Team #Spice. We have seen and heard all the fights and arguments all these years. You can't tell me that it is part of Karlie's character to pop some shit off. Now, Spice has finished several.
Also, Spice has stated several times why she was upset and why. If the rest of the people on the show wasn't paying attention that's cool too but essentially Karlie poked mama Spice and this is the end result.
Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏 they don’t show the full clips on social media that’s why. Spice has never hit anyone on this show. Karlie just got done beating up Mariah Lynn in Jamaica
Karlee is a professional victim. Imagine being in your 50s and still playing childish games with people like that. Its just pathetic now.
LMBO Professional Victim 😭
Spice needs to take a season off. Her mental health and emotions are all over place. She needs to heal and learn to control that a lot more.
I agree with you
I love me some spice but their were times that she don't take accountability of her actions as well. Could be karma biting her back.
@@JamesJones-zq7pcExactly she does not take accountability and she over talks and doesn’t let people tell their side.
Spice deflects a lot. She is not owning her dark side.. why is she crying? Being hurt doesn't justify that behaviour
If you rushed even if security held you back, you were attempting to get physical.
I know that’s what I saw..She said she trying to talk but she had some steam in her step 🤷🏾♀️
Exactly
I love how renni is so unbothered
Right lol 💅
Why would she be bothered? Nt her fight
LIBRA MOOD 😂
Karlie is a dangerous person… The same Karlie that was shaking tables, hitting girls with purses, getting bopped in the face with flowers by Joseline, and the list goes on… and don’t even get me started on the narrative of trying to make Spice the angry black woman… regardless if the other cast wouldn’t act how she chooses to act none of them can deny she has a reason to be upset with Karlie so if she has a valid reason she’s not a bully… Karlie can always choose to stop trying to speak to her and she won’t feel so victimized
Karlie redd just beat up Mariah Lynn in Jamaica as well.
@@Annarebel99 what???? See and she wanna cry on tv that she’s afraid of Spice attacking her when she goes around attacking ppl. She is sick!
Spice is the kind of person that won’t admit attacking u like that but in a lot of videos shows shown she be at it
I think she sees herself as being aggressive but she didn't swing on her
Spice didn’t touch Karlie redd. You just feel ashamed for being that gulliable. If spice touched her she would’ve just found a reason to justify why she did. Lol she don’t got to lie on no dam Karlie redd 🙄🤣
@@nicoleraheem1195 never said she swang on her tho I’m saying every other videos clips of this chick she always be at it with others like she think all be scared of her like spice of dancehall go bout it in ur own country if u so sick and tired of everyone else. She never admit or hold herself accountable for anything look how she verbally attack Bambi with all the name calling the b word etc yet when someone calls her she said she hate that word and don’t call her it before she sock ur face up. Yet here u go calling others the b word etc but no one can do it to her only she can she’s one sided and annoying Karlie is just as annoying too both clowns .
@@user-ur4iu6oi9xspice didn’t touch Karlie the end. Bambi just tried to hit mama dee. Karlie just punch Mariah Lynn in the head and face in Jamaica.
@@Annarebel99 🙄
Spice is responsible for her own reactions and behavior. Everyone has trauma but not everyone has anger.
Spice needs to leave these ppl alone, Karlie likes to play the victim so much! and these ppl just feed into her b.s.
True, I greatly believe Spice never saw Karlie the same way post what Karlie did with the entire daughter and house situation. Karlie creeped Spice the hell out, that what we seeing now is Spice going through a PTSD triggering moment. And sadly, I think the crew never really understood where Spice was coming from when crying out about how creepy it is for Karlie to have bought her daughter her house opposite Spice's. I swear as a viewer too, i never saw Karlie the same way since then. She needs seek therapy. No normal human clearly without abondonment issues moves like that.😏
Spice always playing victim
@quintinsmth4287 spice is not playing victim. Karlie is just extremely messy. Why tell everyone you're scared of spice but when she directly ask "why are you scared?".. you have no answer? Karlie has gotten into physical altercations before and has had drama with every single person to be casted on love and hiphop. No way around it, Karlie is the is the issue. I've never heard Karlie say she scared of Joseline and she was a true bully. Karlie used Spice for her shine and then turned into a stalker. Spice is one of the only artist who we have seen successfully standing in her music career. When Spice wanted space, Karlie got crazy to a point of buying the house across the street.. who does that?? Karlie should have apologized a very long time ago. Spice need a restraining order for Karlie crazy ass.
Karlie lied on spice saying spice made her spend thousands on her bday in Jamaica. Went around complaining to the cast that she’s now broke. Until the point they had to offer to cash app her money. Spice walks in to her bday party and cast comes up to her telling her Karlie COMPLAINING about money. To confirm this, In one of the scenes Amara says to Karlie. “You’re such a good friend, SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY.” How does she know Karlie red spent money on spice? What kind of friend does that. Spice cuts her off in Jamaica. Next as soon as spice got nominated for the Grammys. Karlie started to smother her and try to transform herself into spice. Hid and submitted their song and had spice looking unprofessional to the recording academy. Telling them she only had one submission. Only to find out she had two because Karlie didn’t tell her about the other one. She then tries to steal all of spice music executive friends. That’s why she took over meda ONE OF the persons who voted for spice to be nominated because now Karlie she wants a Grammy nomination too. Lol
fast forward, Spice gets sick. Recovers, and a year later gets a video on her phone of Karlie and her friend recording spice doctor speaking and details about her hospital stay - sent by mistake. Recorded without spice’s family permission or KNOWLEDGE. Their excuse was they recorded it to send to doctors in the US and because the doctor were speaking Spanish.. Spice says in the video the doctors were speaking ENGLISH. 😢 Mind you…. Spice family was there and could’ve done that plus you didn’t ask them permission to. Anyways, spice confronts them. It comes out that Karlie was behind it and told her to record and was plotting to gather info on spice to send to the blogs. Bear in mind spice and Karlie wasn’t friends at the time. After this Karlie had a friend she introduced to spice and the friend lived with Karlie. Karlie knew her friend was sleeping with spice man. Spice went to tell Karlie Only to find out Karlie knew the whole time. Spice then moves away from them all. Buys a new house.. Karlie does everything in her power to find out where spice was moving to and moves across the street of all places. Lastly, Karlie gaslights spice telling everyone spice hit her. Knowing spice did not touch her.
“You can’t do something to somebody and tell them how mad to get” words from funky dineva 😍 Spice isn’t wrong.
I disagree. There's nothing wrong with pointing out when someone is *OVERREACTING* to some provocation. Karlie can be annoying and as hell and get on people's nerves, but she didn't do anything to Spice out of *malice.*
@WestIndianAK She literally intentionally rented out the house to thugs knowing they'd be shooting a music video with video vixens and alcohol... knowing spice is out of the country and they're 2 feet away from her children.
Tf do you mean?😂
I Agree
@@WestIndianAKYou tried it now go have a Seat
Since watching Karlie, she has always been in the middle of things, she’s very messy. If every friend you have there’s a fall out and betrayal you have to look at yourself. I can tell Spice is hurt, and Karlie is definitely playing victim
Spice ALWAYS plays victim and NEVER takes accountability 🙄
This narrative is played out!!! She took accountability plenty times
@@Annarebel99 how did she take accountability.. she doesn't even want to admit she attacked Karlie whether she did get to hit her or not.. y did BET not sure the interaction in its entirety y do they only show someone holding back spice.. y would the person need to hold back spice if she didnt TRY to attack as Karlie said
@@gabbyandrews1910 it’s in her letter to Karlie. The one Karlie read and pretending that she didn’t. Lol anything else? When does Karlie take accountability for plotting to have spice health information leaked to the blogs 😵💫😵💫😵💫
@@Annarebel99 girl i see u under everybody's comment defending spice.. i hope u getting paid 🤣🤣 hope it's in USD.
Karlie is so provoking!!!
The word is provocative. 📚🤭
Exactly that's why K michelle shut her down
I greatly believe Spice never saw Karlie the same way post what Karlie did with the entire daughter and house situation. Karlie creeped Spice the hell out, that what we seeing now is Spice going through a PTSD triggering moment. And sadly, I think the crew never really understood where Spice was coming from when crying out about how creepy it is for Karlie to have bought her daughter her house opposite Spice's. I swear as a viewer too, i never saw Karlie the same way since then. She needs seek therapy. No normal human clearly without abondonment issues moves like that.😏
Per what was aired Karlie NEVER said anything to Spice it was Yandy. However Karlie did state " I never Sh##ed on her.
I think it is Karlies role to be a shit starter. I feel they take it to far with Spice. Enough is enough. Spice should not try to make up with Karlie.
Karlie is dangerous
frfr
I’m livid for Spice! Bambi (and everyone) telling her to control her self? Do they understand what show they are on? Bambi a few episodes ago, towered over her ex mother in-law when they were just ‘talking’. Karlie has been in worse situations with other cast members and Spice is the problem? Spice should leave.
K Michelle tried to warn ppl
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@MsSamiam2 I believe this will be the last season of Spice. This is the same lie she told about Tokyo. Karlie hates rejection
Spice…byyeeeeee!!!!
That “that’s how I talk” is so irritating. Typical of people who can’t take accountability and change.
True. And not only that, they don't know how to put their pride aside to reach a compromise and maintain a healthy friendship
Girl Shuddup! Take accountability for almost hitting an op? Next. Karlie should answer to why claiming to be hit if she wasn’t. That’s exactly the issue. Gaslighting
Karlie been friends with spice for years and just now scared? 😂😂
@@Annarebel99 so, from everything that happened until now, thats your only argument?
would you be friends with someone like Spice who just explodes because she thinks everything she does and feels is right and accepts nothing???
@@Annarebel99 Have you seen how Spice has been acting??? Are we watching the same show?
Spice doesn’t understand that it’s the intention of getting physical that changed this whole dynamic … doesn’t make it right just because she didn’t touch her
That’s all I’m saying…I don’t think she actually hit her(The cameras were moving too fast) but she was walking up on her like she wanted to box her..She even said I will box u down while the security was holding her back..🤷🏾♀️
Exactly
Karlie mad about a beef she started by buying a house next to Spice after spice said she wouldn’t be comfortable with it and now spice is wrong? SMD
EXACTLY, all these idiots on the comments stupid asf.
Honestly! If Karlie would just admit she hid buying the house because she knew Spice would feel a way, and then you constantly deny until Spice does something in response that's worse in Karlie's eyes
Karlie lied on spice saying spice made her spend thousands on her bday in Jamaica. Went around complaining to the cast that she’s now broke. Until the point they had to offer to cash app her money. Spice walks in to her bday party and cast comes up to her telling her Karlie COMPLAINING about money. To confirm this, In one of the scenes Amara says to Karlie. “You’re such a good friend, SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY.” How does she know Karlie red spent money on spice? What kind of friend does that. Spice cuts her off in Jamaica. Next as soon as spice got nominated for the Grammys. Karlie started to smother her and try to transform herself into spice. Hid and submitted their song and had spice looking unprofessional to the recording academy. Telling them she only had one submission. Only to find out she had two because Karlie didn’t tell her about the other one. She then tries to steal all of spice music executive friends. That’s why she took over meda ONE OF the persons who voted for spice to be nominated because now Karlie she wants a Grammy nomination too. Lol
Fast forward, Spice gets sick. Recovers, and a year later gets a video on her phone of Karlie and her friend recording spice doctor speaking and details about her hospital stay - sent by mistake. Recorded without spice’s family permission or KNOWLEDGE. Their excuse was they recorded it to send to doctors in the US and because the doctor were speaking Spanish.. Spice says in the video the doctors were speaking ENGLISH. 😢 Mind you…. Spice family was there and could’ve done that plus you didn’t ask them permission to. Anyways, spice confronts them. It comes out that Karlie was behind it and told her to record and was plotting to gather info on spice to send to the blogs. Bear in mind spice and Karlie wasn’t friends at the time. After this Karlie had a friend she introduced to spice and the friend lived with Karlie. Karlie knew her friend was sleeping with spice man. Spice went to tell Karlie Only to find out Karlie knew the whole time. Spice then moves away from them all. Buys a new house.. Karlie does everything in her power to find out where spice was moving to and moves across the street of all places. Lastly, Karlie gaslights spice telling everyone spice hit her. Knowing spice did not touch her.
This is literally an episode of Degrassi. But with “adults”.
Not degrassi 😂😂
Like shit 😅😂😂 I'm sick of em
DEAD Not “Degrassi” 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha Degrassi 😂😂
😂😂 " Be the best, the best that I can be"..
Love and Hip Hop must be paying Karlie big time to have all these negative storylines, because it's the same thing with her being the perpetual victim, in almost every storyline with Spice. Karlie need to learn how to grow up and act her age already because it's a constant pattern with her.
I'd never understand folks who know exactly how Karlie is but defend her just because they and her and friends in that moment . Bambi only defending cause karlie on her side in the beef with Erica and mama dee. Karlie is THE PROBLEM. Its always been her as the problem.
Bambi said to Spice "you're being loud. you're scaring her" lmao thank you Sierra for giving her the side eye cause why tf you say something like that?!
Karlie has done this every single person that has tried to be her friend. K Michelle, Joseline, Shekinah, Tommie Lee, Ms Pooh and the list goes on. Why do people keep defending Karlie is beyond me.
They keep defending her because of the *facts.* How you gonna cry about people making you out to be a bully *when you're screaming and cussing and threatening?!?* 🙄
@@WestIndianAK what facts?! Eww if you're defending Karlie's messiness, it only means you're the same as her cause what Karlie's been doing is inserting herself in situations that had nothing to do with her then cry about it when she gets confronted with her bullish. Karlie's a bird and Spice told her not to buy the house next to her but she did anyway and paid some of Spice's neighbors not to say anything because she wanted it to be a "surprise". That's stalker behavior and you defend that?
@@WestIndianAKyour copy and paste comment is TIRED. All your comments on this channel is spice hate driven. Grow up.
@@WestIndianAK Even If So The Main Point Is That Spice Is Literally Not Putting Fear In That Girl Heart. She’s Just Being Manipulative In Trying To Make Her, Her Friend. ( Even Tho She Is Scared Of Her😴 )
@@WestIndianAKSpice did not threaten Karlie. That grown messy woman has had her ass whooped by too many people on that show and she has never said she's scared of them. Now she's scared of Spice cause she is yelling?
I'm not the biggest Spice fan, but Karlie's a malignant narcissist who has found her narcissistic supply in Spice's emotional attachment to her. When narcissists are stalking their victim they first start with the "mirroring" of said victim followed by the "love bombing" and invasion of personal space. We all saw this when Karlie moves across the street from Spice.
When the victim sets boundaries, that offends the narcissist, so they then go cold and distant. It's at THAT point that the victim should leave it alone, but most will feel some kinda way themselves about being "dissed" and THEN blame THEMSELVES for having set healthy boundaries. When they attempt to get back into the narcissist's good graces, that's where they will be emotionally trapped (punished) by the narcissist for their "offense" to their ego in a never-ending loop.
In THIS case, Karlie is the "punisher" PURPOSELY targeting and exploiting Spice's need for emotional approval and abandonment insecurities. She does this by painting Spice as an "attacker" victimizing her. This, of course, sets off Spice into a cycle of angry denial, to which Karlie can then say "See? LOOK at her! Help me! I don't feel safe!!" Then, the narcissist will then surround themselves with the "rescuers" of the group who are more than happy to provide them a shoulder to cry on, advice, pampering and solace.
This the one. To the tee.
Yes and Yes! That’s it!
You hit it on the nail 💯
👏👏👏👏👏
Yesss right on point
Bambi didn't like Karlie in Vegas when she was with Erica and Sierra now her and Karlie besties she needs to get her ass off the show in the hot tub with no neck Benzeeno😂😂😂
Spice wants to yell, pop off, scream, lung at and so on, has to be held back from someone that everyone knows is not a fighter, and then spice wonder why she is being seen as aggressive and a bully.
Exactly
I love spice but this show is definitely taking a toll on her mental she needs to take a break!
She wasn’t scared, Karlie just cannot take accountability for shit, she’s too grown to be “acting scared”
You cant approach someone aggressively and call it "i was coming to talk to you!" Spice has her own ish to take accountability for. If you think her approach wasn't aggressive, then we aint watching the same show!
Right. It comes off as gaslighting
Oh well you can’t lie on someone saying they hit you and they didn’t. Next!!
If Spice wants to leave let her Goooo!!! Period!!!!
Exactly
I don't think Karlie wants to be your friend anymore, Spice.😂🎭
and
I wouldn't either. Spice is losing it!
of course, all she wanted was a song with her
I don't blame karlie Spice weird asf
@@kaskimlevy4507and why is that? Because Karlie is a user and a liar.
Karlie needs to move TF around! If someone doesn't want to be your friend, accept it and move on with life! Spice needs to stop yelling and screaming and acting such a fool at EVERY occasion!!! They should both stop expecting anything from the other and act like the past 5 years didn't happen and they never knew one another! If they do that, there would no longer be a need for them to have any type of conversation with one another!!! Let it go!!!! 💕💚💕
thank you for saying it. no-one telling her the truth. she moved next door to you so what.
@@xoolsurf6282 is that all Karlie did? Karlie lied on spice saying spice made her spend thousands on her bday in Jamaica. Went around complaining to the cast that she’s now broke. Until the point they had to offer to cash app her money. Spice walks in to her bday party and cast comes up to her telling her Karlie COMPLAINING about money. To confirm this, In one of the scenes Amara says to Karlie. “You’re such a good friend, SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY.” How does she know Karlie red spent money on spice? What kind of friend does that. Spice cuts her off in Jamaica. Next as soon as spice got nominated for the Grammys. Karlie started to smother her and try to transform herself into spice. Hid and submitted their song and had spice looking unprofessional to the recording academy. Telling them she only had one submission. Only to find out she had two because Karlie didn’t tell her about the other one. She then tries to steal all of spice music executive friends. That’s why she took over meda ONE OF the persons who voted for spice to be nominated because now Karlie she wants a Grammy nomination too. Lol
Oh hush
She has ptsd they need to take the camera out her face
@@xoolsurf6282It’s not so what. If someone is stalking you then it’s crazy for them to secretly move next door to you! Karlie secretly recorded spice’s doctor while she was in the hospital trying to find out information of her health history and then she secretly tried to submit their song to the Grammy’s without spice’s knowledge. That is not normal behavior and I wouldn’t want to live next door to someone like that.
But spice did take accountability...and spice always speaks her mind and spoke it to Karlie .my opinion..spice don't need friends like Karlie ....
Karlie wasn't scared of Joseline. Cocoalina even bopped her in the head with a dozen roses 🌹 so why is she scared of Spice?
Karlie Redd done got into several fights including one with the tiniest girl on the cast Mariah Lynn. Chile Karlie is not a victim and still lives next door to this woman. Even though her "friend" asked her not too. I get why Spice is mad. She looked out for Karlie no singing/rapping self.
The way they all can’t see that karlie is clearly manipulating the situation is crazyyyy
Spice is starting to get on my nerves. She needs therapy. It can be frustrating but you can’t be defensive every time you hear something you don’t like. Karlie or anyone should not get you this worked up. It’s not healthy. 🤦🏽♂️
I just love how yandy, kirk and resheada always had spices back and always tried to comfort her ❤
Karlie is a narcissist! Never takes accountability. Spice should get as far away from her as possible
Tired of the dis women she never take accountability for their actions and a constant victim
FOREAL!!!
It's *woman not "women". One is singular and the other is plural. Maybe education over reality TV. Your sentence is poorly articulated. And it's *her actions not "their". The grammatical rollercoaster is embarrassing. Only in America and always our own. 🤭📚🤡
Never!
Facts I don't blame karlie
And I’m tired of y’all using this played out narrative about accountability. How about watch the show. Spice apologized and took accountability in the Bahamas with Bambi, Jessica on the bus, and in her 6 page letter to Karlie. So please! Wrap this accountability shxt up. Thanks
If you have to be restrained by people it became physical. And calm down Spice.
Karlie was just in Jamaica punching Mariah Lynn in the head and face. Spice hasn’t touched anyone since season one.
no. it's physical when you actually assault someone. grow up and get an education.
Being scared of a person you're stalking is CRAZY!!
Karlie always needs to stir up trouble to keep a story line going .Karlie is obsessed with spice ....plain and simple.
It’s almost impressive how good Karlie has gotten at this shit. Basically everyone in that room has seen or experienced her do this and no one calls her on it. She’s not scared of Spice, it just fits her narrative
Imo: Spice should leave Karlie alone. Don't speak to her, & don't acknowledge her . Leave the show and move on with her life for her own well-being. If she has to sell her house & move, do that as well. Don't let her know where you live. There is something seriously wrong with Karlie. Who moves so close to their "friend" and mot tell them. WHO⁉️
Karlie always will be exactly who she is, & eveyone knows that. She's not worth the trouble.
Facts! She entertaining her. She better "nothing " her. Their presence does not exist.
Karlie needs to leave Spice alone. Karlie is picking at her and getting a reaction out of Spice so she can have people think she is the bad girl in the situation, but Karlie is the lying, fake bad girl in this situation. Spice focus on your music and your family leave this DRAMA ALONE!!! Love you Spice 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
But why is everyone ignoring the fact that Karlie went “single white female” on Spice???
Why is everyone ignoring the fact that Spice went "angry Black woman" on Karlie???
@WestIndianAK Karlie has had men and women come at her like that on this show. You all are showing your colorism. As spice pointed out, sierra actually hit her and so did Joseline
She did went single white female from trying to do Jamaican freestyle to Stevie way back when to all tha low hand antics with spice she was cyphering that girl energy she wants what spice have she want to be spice everyone that's intune can see
Dat part
Karlie lied on spice saying spice made her spend thousands on her bday in Jamaica. Went around complaining to the cast that she’s now broke. Until the point they had to offer to cash app her money. Spice walks in to her bday party and cast comes up to her telling her Karlie COMPLAINING about money. To confirm this, In one of the scenes Amara says to Karlie. “You’re such a good friend, SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY.” How does she know Karlie red spent money on spice? What kind of friend does that. Spice cuts her off in Jamaica. Next as soon as spice got nominated for the Grammys. Karlie started to smother her and try to transform herself into spice. Hid and submitted their song and had spice looking unprofessional to the recording academy. Telling them she only had one submission. Only to find out she had two because Karlie didn’t tell her about the other one. She then tries to steal all of spice music executive friends. That’s why she took over meda ONE OF the persons who voted for spice to be nominated because now Karlie she wants a Grammy nomination too. Lol
Spice wa right about Sierra situation. Period. Buuut i do believe Spice was taking advantage of her spotlight and was trying to bully Karlie but when Bambi said something and ppl agreed with her she felt played bc for sometime now ppl havent been holding her accountable. You cant be a bully and and a victim!!
Move yuh bloodclaat! How she bully karlie?? Karlie provoking
Facts but people don't see that they see what they want to and that the sad part about it all
@@Annarebel99 bloodclaat my azz. Go on wit that!
I don't like the fact that they making spice look some type of way because she yelling but when karlie yelling it's not a problem it's not an issue like. Gtfoh
This entire show is based on people yelling screaming and getting physical and karlie has been in a lot of fights with women bigger and stronger then Spice but all of a sudden NOW she’s scarred? And why is bambi telling anyone to stop yelling when she’s always getting into screaming matches with people? The double standards they have with Spice is crazy. They are discriminating against her even though they all act much worse then she do.
‘Is she scared of sierra?! sierra boxed her in her face!” When I tell you I had to pause the video just to laugh 😂😂😂
I’ve never cared for Spice ever since she body shamed Tokyo over a man. She’s a bully and loves to start but can’t finish it. Being called a bully is a trigger for Spice because it’s true.
Are you aware that it wasn’t over a man? Karlie went back to spice and told her everything Tokyo said about her. Lol Tokyo called spice paprika, a ITCH, and mocked her accent OVER A MAN. So spice came ready to be at her.
@@Annarebel99 I watched the same show like everyone else. Spice was mentioning Tobias and they went back and forth about that a little bit. Then Spice started talking about her weight and the name calling.
@@Annarebel99but Tokyo clarified what she said about spice and continuously reiterated that she never had a issue with spice , Karlie misconstrued Tokyo’s words and Sierra called her out for doing that
Spice just leave the show
Cause you can't be the bully and victim 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
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what y'all seeing that i don't 😭😭 she ain't acting like no bully
Exactly
How she acting like a bully when Karlie but her kids in danger? The house that Karlie bought she rented it out to an old weird man who Spice said and made it known several times she DIDNT like the man bc he gives creepy vibes, her kids can’t even play outside because the man is watching them. Karlie is the one acting like the victim she does this with all her friends she’s a manipulative narcissist and a piece of shit. What about Tommie and Joseline who tried to PHYSICALLY hurt Karlie?? she wasn’t scared of them, she didn’t act scared of them. So why is she scared of Spice? Then Bambi sitting right their dick eating Karlie like, Bambi didn’t try to fight Karlie either. Damn near everyone at that table TRIED to fight Karlie, but she’s not scared of them? she’s still talking and wants to be friends with them. So why is she scared of Spice or acting scared of Spice? So Spice can look like the bad guy & Karlie is the victim. Y’all falling for Karlie’s manipulative ways. See how every friendship with Karlie ends? So you think about that and tell me who’s actually in the wrong here.
@@tyannaaaaaaaThey reason like Karlie. 💀
In all honesty, im tired of both of them. Them drama queens is made for each other.
Spice clearly going through something. Hopefully she fines peace
At the end Rasheeda say “✌🏾 aight imma head out!”with that quick spin 😂😂
They both using their flaws on each other. Spice is a mad person with people she doesn’t know or like. Karlie is not playing victim. She’s scared to fight and always has been. She she’s not playing victim
What love and hip hop you been watching karlie always acted like she had hands 💀
Girl what? Sdfuuu they all gaslighting spice
@@Annarebel99nah they really aren’t because the original reason Spice is upset at Karlie is dumb af and the take Karlie out of it Spice has always been the bully and trying to fight somebody, granted a lot of ppl on the show try to fight ppl but spice half the time be fighting ppl she doesn’t know or has no beef with she’s always been unhinged
@@roommateuniversity Karlie just punched Mariah Lynn in the head in Jamaica. She’s scared of confrontation? Go sleep
@@Annarebel99 I didn’t say anything about Karlie being scared because I can care less about that, WHAT I DID comment on was spice crying about her being portrayed as a bully when that’s all she’s ever been but spice is your pic so of course your comprehension would be low on this
Karlie plays victim ALL THE DAMN TIME. First with Tokyo Vanity, K Michelle, Sierra, and Now Spice Karlie makes me sick yall
Good point from Spice about Sierra. She mushed Karlie in the face then her and assistant jumped her but she’s scared to be in a room with Spice. 😂😂
All of them on this show is fake if you ask me 🤷🏾♂️😂
This the one cause wtf is this.
I'm with you on this one
I totally feel Spice. And Karlie will never change. Karlie will never take accountability until she is caught up or confronted. Best is to leave a toxic friend where she belongs. Spice don't need to leave the show but leave Karlie. 1 less person to give a rshit.
0:44 that little stutter get me lol
Spice got an image to protect, Karlie be a real stalker.
Spice baby this show ain't for you baby
All I know is I watched this show so much and Spice one of the only people I see cry real tears.
Exactly
The fact that people still defend and don’t see that Karlie is the issue and will always be is wild, have yall forgotten her nature?
Karlie just comes across as so cold-hearted, nothing seems to move her. Everyone's talking about Spice's healing but Karlie needs to heal too, maybe even more!
Bambi has the nerve to speak on someone else situation
BAMBI ALWAYS ON THE PAGE LMAOOOO
I don't know why 😮😮
I'm Renni on the bus "SLEEP" 😁💕
Spice needs to be held accountable for everything she has done
Name everything she did to Karlie. Lol this narrative and saying about spice is played out.
Not talking about karlie
This one cuts deep because Karlie betrayed Spice when she was on her death bed. They can never be friends again.
Lie because is spice family told Karlie not tell ppl . N is spice Rasta f a gal Karlie know so it was his duty to tell spice
Who is here to see Karlie go??
Not before Spice.. let her stick to baddies jamaican that level of ratchet is more her speed
I feel I would be busy snowboarding then doing all this chatting 😂
This storyline is getting out of hand. Spice this show isn't showing you in a positive life. You need to walk away from it.