Ferrari 458 Italia vs Ducati 1198S - Forza Italia!

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • Which is faster? Motorcycle or car? We take these two Italian speed machines to the drag strip and the race track to find out.
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  • @afletra
    @afletra 3 роки тому +5

    can't believe 10 years has passed since the first time I saw this amazing video!

  • @BucketWheat
    @BucketWheat 10 років тому +42

    I have a bit of an issue with the closing statement...
    YES, it does take someone like Steve Rapp to get those lap times from the Ducati...
    But Mr. Bell is not "your average Joe" either!!
    Of course, the Ferrari has a bunch of stuff that "helps" any driver be 'better' than their natural skill level... but let's see "average Joe" do a full-power 4-wheel drift, and change gears in the middle...or even know that he should change gears at that moment...
    All told, with BOTH vehicles being piloted by top-level professionals... this WAS a "fair fight". The only thing not contested, where the car would have the advantage, was top speed on a long open road. There, the Ferrari would take the Ducati...eventually...if the road was long enough...
    And, of course, I would LOVE to have them BOTH sitting in my garage, waiting for me to "exercise them" on a regular and frequent schedule... (-:

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 4 роки тому +2

      From experince as a avid fan of racing and having both fhe fortune of trackimg supercar and superbike the dfference between a skill is imense for a bike in terms of sheer pace a pro rider to a skiled enthusaist and a noob is night and day a pro can cut about 15seconds of from a skilled enthusaist and a enthusaiat can cut a full min off from the noob while cars are much closer the difference between say chris harris and vetell maybe 5s seconds the differene between a bike presenter/reviewer and rossi maybe 15 seconda a lap for car ita quite easy to get within 90 percent of the best driver but its far harder to get near the same pace as the best rider and bike are very scary and they can cost you dearly if you go beyond your skill limits while car are far more forgiving

    • @An0niem4
      @An0niem4 4 роки тому +1

      We have to repeat this test with both a rider and driver who've had their license for something like a year. I'm convinced that the rider would still stand a fair chance, simply due to the fact that most bikers are often more enthusiastic and skill-oriented

  • @PappaLitto
    @PappaLitto 10 років тому +121

    I'd rather be good at riding and save $270,000 and get the bike

    • @Gitohandro
      @Gitohandro 9 років тому +1

      How much will a new pair of legs cost you?

    • @danzgamingchannel8553
      @danzgamingchannel8553 9 років тому +13

      +Gitonga Mwaniki how much will a new opinion cost u coz u defo need one

    • @gascat100
      @gascat100 9 років тому +3

      +Gitonga Mwaniki In Canada free, free healthcare, get the bike :P

    • @salmanahmed1408
      @salmanahmed1408 7 років тому

      PappaLitto me too!!

    • @The_Superpack
      @The_Superpack 6 років тому

      So true, ferrari is nuts... fast and awesome best car company but still bonkers

  • @DarthStardom
    @DarthStardom 9 років тому +51

    God bless Italians

  • @justinedzard
    @justinedzard 11 років тому +21

    I'm A Biker, And I'm Proud :)

  • @SgtGullett38
    @SgtGullett38 10 років тому +98

    No matter how many times a bike beats a car, car fan boys will always be mad. If a car beats a bike the bike guys will be mad. What you cant argue with is a bike takes way more skill to ride. Anyone who knows how to drive a can go buy a 100,000 dollar sports car if they have the money and drive it fast. If you can drive a car fast doesnt mean you have the skill to drive a bike fast.

    • @SgtGullett38
      @SgtGullett38 10 років тому

      nyuki187 yup. It does depend on what bike you have though for comfort. I rode my dads V-strom 1000 and its like a couch. My Cbr 600 isnt to bad but after 2 or 3 hours your ass hurts

    • @nyuki187
      @nyuki187 10 років тому +1

      bike comfort veries, true, like the shitty sit of a 883 sportster or a king chair of a CBX-750. but i'm talking about the comfort of a hot day and a rainy day (which account for most of year), when you just get into your car, turn the AC accordingly, turn up the music and pick up your girl while it rains heavily with your/her bags in the back seat, all while staying dry, smelling nice, making it possible to go on a date any time, anywhere. i rode bikes all year, nothing comes close to a comfort of a car,

    • @SgtGullett38
      @SgtGullett38 10 років тому

      nyuki187 I never use the AC though lol . And i kinda like riding in the rain. Im gonna fight this lol

    • @nyuki187
      @nyuki187 10 років тому +2

      listen, i like bikes too, but they aren't designed for comfort, they are designed for fun.

    • @SgtGullett38
      @SgtGullett38 10 років тому

      nyuki187 well some are but for the most part yah. They are shit loads of fun though. Cant deny that

  • @chrisearldraws
    @chrisearldraws 10 років тому +59

    Of course the Ferrari would lose in a drag race against the Ducati! But around the racetrack, the 458 will murder...
    Damn it!

    • @MrLillywhite2011
      @MrLillywhite2011 7 років тому +4

      Chris Cummings wrong

    • @afletra
      @afletra 7 років тому +8

      @Alistair Blake he's quoting the video. did you even watch the vid till the end?

    • @lw8249
      @lw8249 6 років тому +2

      Idiot, 1198 run 2 seconds faster in the lap time than the 458.
      Why people are just so stupid?
      Is like watching a video in which they said "sky is blue" and reply "Oh yes the sky is red".

    • @The_Superpack
      @The_Superpack 6 років тому +3

      haha there is no way, motorcycles turn the same ish

    • @consorte6446
      @consorte6446 4 роки тому

      Lmao

  • @lightmobile
    @lightmobile 9 років тому +8

    Cars vs. bikes...they both have their place, we love 'em! Unfortunately most of us will never have the chance to experience a car like the Ferrari, but the Ducati is much more accessible!
    I would prefer the commentary without the tired, chauvinistic "Italian supermodel" analogy

    • @SpyderRios
      @SpyderRios 8 років тому +7

      No car comes close to the sensation of riding a bike.

    • @MrPainfulTruth
      @MrPainfulTruth 8 років тому +6

      +SpyderRios Thats the simple truth. I've done both and while the supercar makes heads turn (not everyone likes that), it isnt close of a sensation to put the pedal to the metal than it is to open the throttle so wide that you feel its going to throw you right off the ride. The brutal acceleration of a liter bike (or above) is something noone can understand from watching videos.

  • @andrewmillwardwatford9410
    @andrewmillwardwatford9410 11 років тому +41

    This argument will rage on for years. Some like bikes some like cars. There both great. Im a bike fan as I ride on the road and hate traffic, but my wife would rather be in a super car going slow so that people can look at her. Ive never been beaten by a car on a ride through london but I wouldnt like to ride in a stock car race either. The moral is you can never compare bikes and cars as they are just not the same. To sumerise girls like cars and men like bikes!

    • @pascalmpower7944
      @pascalmpower7944 11 років тому

      Cars will beat bikes so easier if they have similar power to weight ratio, caterham can defeat ducati by 13 seconds with 50bhp/tone less , the Ducati ran 10s 1/4mile the new Nismo GTR ran 9.3s stock gtr ran 10s. Has u ever herd Supra or Turbo Supra?

    • @andrewmillwardwatford9410
      @andrewmillwardwatford9410 11 років тому +2

      If if if. You cant compare.

    • @pascalmpower7944
      @pascalmpower7944 11 років тому

      What can't I compare, supercars>superbikes. GTR have 600less hp in p/w ratio still the ducati lead only 3 seconds ahead, The caterman have a pretty close power to weight ratio as ducati, then the car lead the bike for 13 seconds. CARS 1 BIKES 0

    • @andrewmillwardwatford9410
      @andrewmillwardwatford9410 11 років тому

      Watford to croyden bike every time car never. Bike to any where any time bike every time. Get real no match if you select the criteria. Some times cars are better some times bikes. There not the same so dont compare.

    • @pascalmpower7944
      @pascalmpower7944 11 років тому

      There is: Who work batter. In race, car get speed at straight lots of grip at corners not easy to die for a connection.
      Road going, car is safer, more efficient. There is many way to compare so just do it.

  • @FloridaCams
    @FloridaCams 9 років тому +10

    No matter how fast or "exciting" a car is, it will never be as exciting as a super bike! Not hating on the car at all!

    • @siran424
      @siran424 8 років тому +1

      +Adders321
      No one buys a car for excitement, you muppet. They either buy it for multi purpose use or comfort/luxury or for it's beauty /show off.
      So lack of excitement is not a negative.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 7 років тому +3

      for and suv or a luxury saloon yes but the whole point of getting a supercar is to feel the rush and excitement and no supercar will ever feel as exciting as bike even if a car is faster 300 kph on a car feels nothing like 300 on a bike

    • @FloridaCams
      @FloridaCams 7 років тому

      You idiot, you clearly didn't understand anything I wrote. So, in all your wisdom you are telling me people don't buy Lamborghini's or Ferrari's for excitement? bullshit.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 7 років тому

      of course a ferrari is exciting just not as exciting or as raw as bike if you want speed and outright adrenaline rush no beating a bike my friend but the those supercar sure pull the girls and get you a parking space in any fancy restaurant cant do that with a bike

    • @weecolski
      @weecolski 5 років тому

      AdLP640 as soon as he resorted to name calling his argument was lost

  • @OrestisKaitsas
    @OrestisKaitsas 11 років тому +22

    Ducati for the win

  • @lw8249
    @lw8249 6 років тому +3

    458 Italia Laptime: 1.22.3
    1198S Laptime: 1.19.3

  • @Miata822
    @Miata822 11 років тому +17

    So, in essence, motorcycles are fast while cars can make you think you are fast. Hmm...
    Just watching some vids this weekend while waiting for my new Ducati Multistrada S to arrive. 0-60 in 2.8 they say.:-)

    • @justinc.7742
      @justinc.7742 4 роки тому

      I've got the base 1198, you crack it more than half throttle from a stop and you're heading straight to loop city. That being said, it is so much fun to ride I wouldn't trade it for anything....maybe a new V4 Superleggera, but thats it lol.

  • @matthewkonopka3012
    @matthewkonopka3012 4 роки тому +1

    that noise from the 1198 testastretta. masterpiece

  • @KPKaccountt
    @KPKaccountt 12 років тому +1

    i like this british guy, his review is always been mature, well organized, and informative

  • @vulturnuszan
    @vulturnuszan 10 років тому +11

    nothing beats the fun and girl pulling power per $ of a Ducati :)

    • @theTenthlife
      @theTenthlife 10 років тому +14

      Haha, I need to replace my Suzuki then, because it only seems to attract men.

    • @viper19735
      @viper19735 10 років тому +2

      theTenthlife Easy trick, go to bars with your helmet, girls don't care what you ride, if you ride a motorcycle, she's probably going to want your D

    • @SplusAV
      @SplusAV 10 років тому

      theTenthlife Gixxers suck! They're great on the track, but that's only when other dudes are all around you, COL (chuckling out loud).

    • @theTenthlife
      @theTenthlife 10 років тому

      Never said Gixxer...

    • @BucketWheat
      @BucketWheat 10 років тому

      There is no question that BOTH of these vehicles are full-on 'chic magnets' ...
      But very few girls know the difference in motorcycles...but they ALL 'know' about Ferrari's!
      And most girls/ladies will be much less likely to ride with you on a sport bike than they will in a Ferrari!

  • @jmichaelmasseur
    @jmichaelmasseur 12 років тому +5

    Italians...thanks for the great art, fast cars, trick bikes & amazing women!

  • @AlexTrubinDesign
    @AlexTrubinDesign 11 років тому +16

    at 10th of a price

  • @oztubes
    @oztubes 13 років тому

    An excellent bike vs. car video - let the next round commence!
    10 seconds flat for the quarter is stunning though.

  • @sriranganferrari
    @sriranganferrari 12 років тому

    DUDE you ROCK!!!...Its amazing how you understand and respect both Cars and Bikes...just like I do, I love both of em...respect both wheels...and also respect you, I was just in cars first...but then, also fell in beauty of bike...so now I'm enjoying my life loving Cars and Bikes!!!...

  • @chevymuscle4life
    @chevymuscle4life 10 років тому +4

    This video made me appreciate the ferrari more. It did great against a super bike

  • @nabiji
    @nabiji 11 років тому +6

    But but but but but I'm butthurt. There's only one sort of car that will own a super/sports motorcycle on a track - super cars - the f1 - f3 types.

    • @ToxicReaper7
      @ToxicReaper7 11 років тому +10

      Yup and they are both illegal to drive on public roads and they cost many millions of dollars ;)

    • @mightylordkuba
      @mightylordkuba 10 років тому +1

      this is not GP bike. At GP Bikes have 250-280 Horse power. This is serial bike you can buy it like a ferrari but you can't buy GP bike like F1. Compare f1 f3 to GP bikes if you want

  • @TheJuliodarian
    @TheJuliodarian 10 років тому +6

    They should do it again with a BMW HP4, like lol where's the Ferrari???

  • @otakucarguyyesweexist8601
    @otakucarguyyesweexist8601 3 роки тому +2

    Is it me or the Ducati's of the 2010s are more beautiful than the current model?

  • @RokyJJ
    @RokyJJ 5 років тому +1

    I have a Ducati 1098 S it is an awesome bike even after she is 13 years old... I love her ❤ but I want to be honest with you... I am working hard because I want to own a Ferrari too! Greetings to every motor passionate!!!!

  • @americancheese
    @americancheese 9 років тому +6

    WOW that is one fast car to come that close to a bike! well done Ferrari

  • @F4Effort
    @F4Effort 9 років тому +8

    BEGIN THE CHANT! DU-CA-TI! DU-CA-TI! DU-CA-TI! :)

  • @thowmaz
    @thowmaz 11 років тому +1

    Shame the ducati's don't sound as great as they look, cause the ferrari does! Great video, thanks for uploading :)

  • @joaomauriciobasiledesouza6204
    @joaomauriciobasiledesouza6204 12 років тому +1

    I'm lucky to have both, so depending on what I'm thinking at the moment, I pick one to ride. Both are completely crazy, simply perfect. Nice video.

  • @Stealthbong
    @Stealthbong 9 років тому +14

    I just bought one of these bikes. Oh. My. Sweet. Baby. Jesus.
    I think I am going to need bigger testicles.

  • @chromaticskent7395
    @chromaticskent7395 8 років тому +4

    They are just trying to make Ferrari look better at the end

  • @tarsan894
    @tarsan894 10 років тому +13

    next up... a ford fiesta vs Ducati 1198S.... makes as much sense as this video

    • @ToxicReaper7
      @ToxicReaper7 10 років тому +5

      The funny thing about it is that the Ford Fiesta is probably still more expensive than the Ducati. When you think about it, its just crazy how much performance these bikes offer for such a low price.

    • @PappaLitto
      @PappaLitto 10 років тому

      TheLastGunfighter Block's fiesta is 500 grand :)

    • @dedelabinouze5110
      @dedelabinouze5110 9 років тому

      ***** Lol, it's already 25000$ VS 280000$
      What do you want ? 25000$ VS 5000000$ ? ^^ Don't you understand that a streetlegal car can't beat a superbike unless it's 5000000$ ?

  • @ehormann238
    @ehormann238 12 років тому

    Both italian, and the bike vs car deal has always made a great show.

  • @johnnyvigilante397
    @johnnyvigilante397 10 років тому +1

    Both are a fantasy, and my favorite of their respective categories.

  • @mmazourov
    @mmazourov 8 років тому +4

    All true.. to ride a bike like that around the track, one has to be pretty special. HOWEVER even I will outdrag a $200K Ferrari on my $6K Gixxer 1000.

    • @scarface5910
      @scarface5910 8 років тому +1

      Yeah it takes guts to drive superbikes.But super bike vs super car or 1299 panigale whatever vs laferrari, i am afraid the bike loses

    • @mmazourov
      @mmazourov 8 років тому +1

      Depends on the track/car - on longer/faster tracks (e.g.: Spa, Nurburgring) an average production 1000cc bike will be faster than most supercars. Either way bikes provide a much bigger bang for the buck, but require much more specialist skill to go at comparable speeds.

    • @paulqui3702
      @paulqui3702 8 років тому +1

      My old 1984 Ninja 900 would do a high 10 second quarter mile, & you can get one of those for $1500.00!!

    • @FallRider-oc3vl
      @FallRider-oc3vl 8 років тому

      SCARFACE if your taking the laferrari against a Ducati then you also have to take the top of the range bike. The 1299 and 1299s are both more street oriented. The 1299r or superleggera are the top of the range 'street legal' track focused bikes. I think it depends on the circuit to be honest. In braking zones the car can make up a lot of time as well as mid corner when the bike is less stable. The bikes speed is in its acceleration and direction changes

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 7 років тому +1

      1299s panigale is at least 3 second a lap quicker then the 1198s im not sure laferrari is 7 second faster then 458 on willow springs that how much it has to be faster to beat a new panigale and anyway the 1299s is not even the fastest one there the 1299 superleggera or a h2r /hp4 race if your gonna bring the most expensive hypercar you better compare it to a hyper bike a 1299 is more or less a 458/488 in the ferrari tree of hierarchy and ducati aren't even the fastest superbike maker to be honest

  • @rdsii64
    @rdsii64 10 років тому +4

    let me see, Lamborghini didn't have the guts to go head to head with the 458 but
    Ferrari had the guts to go head to head with a Ducati 1198S. If I ever hit the lotto I'm buying the Ferrari and the Ducati.

    • @buca9696
      @buca9696 9 років тому +1

      rdsii64 They're still pussies for not racing LaFerrari against the P1 and the 918.

    • @dedelabinouze5110
      @dedelabinouze5110 9 років тому +1

      tavi921 VS Bmw hp4 VS Panigale superleggera VS Aprillia RSV4 VS R1
      That would be a good race

  • @popat997
    @popat997 10 років тому +5

    Fuck it, I'm getting a Kawasaki ZX 14R.

    • @vincentyap2589
      @vincentyap2589 10 років тому +1

      this 4 little word call FUCK, indeed is a powerful word

    • @PappaLitto
      @PappaLitto 10 років тому +2

      How about a 600, if it's the first time you've ridden I don't think you need any faster than 2.9 seconds to 60mph.

  • @bhosterman
    @bhosterman 11 років тому

    I never get tired of these showdowns. :-)

  • @theonlyavonne
    @theonlyavonne 11 років тому +2

    Bell's supermodel reference was perfect lol

  • @DhruvaDevOnline
    @DhruvaDevOnline 11 років тому +7

    comparing a car and bike is as illogical as comparing a corporate jet and a fighter plane. just like the bike and a fighter plane it takes a professional to pilot it at its true potential while a commercial pilot or part time racer can push a business jet or a 458, they aren't the same and are not meant to be! and price comparisons are even more stupid, more technology = more price hence, bike

    • @PickleishBILL
      @PickleishBILL 11 років тому +19

      Your comment = Ferrari fanboy who can't accept defeat

    • @DhruvaDevOnline
      @DhruvaDevOnline 11 років тому +4

      Lol not really ! I love bikes and I have a little r6 myself ! Ferrari fan or not it's not possible for that high power vtwin to loose to any car with a capable rider. My point was just that because they couldn't find a lambo doesn't mean they just get a bike and have a race. It defeats the purpose since everyone would know the results anyway.

  • @PityDaFool
    @PityDaFool 11 років тому +3

    next up..Ford Ranger vs Ducati 1198s

    • @SuperYertleTurtle
      @SuperYertleTurtle 11 років тому +1

      To make it fair they should take the DUCATI 1199 Superleggera which will be released in 2014!

  • @Deviljho69
    @Deviljho69 10 років тому +3

    Bike may be faster down a straight but the car is better in pretty much everyway; looks, sound, practicality and useability. I wouldn't choose the bike anyday, I like to stay dry when it rains.

    • @warner735
      @warner735 10 років тому +25

      To each his own, but after riding bikes all the time, cars are boring.

    • @Pyroguy92
      @Pyroguy92 10 років тому +10

      warner735 so true, I was completely into cars before I ever got on a bike. Had a really nice 300zx that I spent a shit ton of money restoring and modding until it was just how I wanted it. Then got introduced to riding, sold the car, got a bike, and never looked back. Anyone who prefers a car has prolly never felt that feeling of leaning over close to the pavement and catapulting out of a corner

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 10 років тому +6

      Well if you have the money to chose, why not both (chuckle)

    • @warner735
      @warner735 10 років тому +2

      rdsii64 If you have the money more power to you, but even in First World countries very very few people can afford a Ferrari or Lambo.

    • @rdsii64
      @rdsii64 10 років тому

      warner735 I can barely afford the used motorcycle I have now, but If I did have that kind of cash.......................

  • @zx7-rr486
    @zx7-rr486 10 років тому +1

    Lots of comments on here make it obvious to see that a lot of people don't understand the dynamics of 4 and 2 wheel vehicles around a race track. Production performance bikes (like an R1 or Ducati 1198) will always match and usually beat production supercars round a track with a large number of corners. On a fast oval track (like a NASCAR oval), the cars will probably edge it because the car carries a faster corner speed and has better aerodynamics, and a bike can't use it's superior acceleration as much
    Race super bikes will likewise beat race prepped super cars.
    HOWEVER, when you add wings to cars to generate large down-force, they will blow any bike into the weeds.
    An F1 car is some 20 seconds (yes, 20 SECONDS!!) faster a lap than a Moto-GP bike.
    Using wings, you could probably build a car that was much faster round a track than the ferrari in this video (and the bike), for less than half the cost.
    As for which is more fun... definitely bikes! I used to race them ...

  • @munkycox
    @munkycox 11 років тому +1

    That V-twin sounds just sick!

  • @kameelkhaouli3054
    @kameelkhaouli3054 12 років тому +1

    My favorite video of all time (but then again, I'm in love with everything "Ducati")

  • @SDkawi6
    @SDkawi6 12 років тому

    @Paul G the busa is faster is because it has more cylinders than the Ducati. Ducati is a v twin. So needs more cc to have the power of the other 1000cc bikes.. Another example is the 3 Cylinder Triumph 675cc competes with 600cc inline 4s. Hope that answers your question.

  • @xeridea
    @xeridea 11 років тому

    I like this video because it highlights all parts of each side. Some similar videos skew the results, or don't paint an accurate picture. I would say its still slightly biased to car, saying it takes insane skill to enjoy a bike, but not bad overall.

  • @nanonanona7683
    @nanonanona7683 11 років тому

    motorcycles are not for everyone, but it truly feels liberating to drive one

  • @MichaelWBush
    @MichaelWBush 10 років тому +3

    LOL at the Englishman having a moment in the Italian car, funny shit.

  • @JustAnotherDisguise
    @JustAnotherDisguise 13 років тому

    I love cars, I did a Tial Sport Stage 3 Twin-Turbo kit in my 2001 S4. Which is my weekend car since I drive a nice 2500 Dodge 4 door as my daily now.
    Last summer I picked up the regular 1198 (not the S). It almost makes me not care about cars anymore. My brother sold his Lamborghini, since after I got my bike he got one too, and also picked up a 1198S version. We use to ride motocross etc.
    Riding isn't safe like a car but you can't beat the Performance:Price ratio.
    Drive/ride safe guys!

  • @chhandama9139
    @chhandama9139 10 років тому +1

    i love the way this guy talks. U know what your saying dude. Ur awesome

  • @ShadowMKII
    @ShadowMKII 11 років тому

    Very fair review. That was enjoyable to watch.

  • @drewdouglas9053
    @drewdouglas9053 12 років тому

    Both beautiful examples of art and automotive engineering.

  • @minatormyth
    @minatormyth 11 років тому

    It's cool to have one of each Italian in ya garage. Each has it's place, one is not better than the other.

  • @trumpet90909
    @trumpet90909 12 років тому

    You are right, so in that sense I stand corrected. I just sold my Ducati Monster recently, and although they don't make them like they used to, it was still a nice-ish bike. A friend of mine who works at Ducati in their development team said that modern dukes are basically "sushi wrapped in pizza" these days. I thought it quite funny.

  • @Ramsey1623
    @Ramsey1623 11 років тому

    Love this! Never gets old!

  • @D3mander
    @D3mander 13 років тому

    Amazing cinematography

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh 13 років тому

    @54spatula sir, your views are intriguing and i second your notion

  • @youknowimaking
    @youknowimaking 12 років тому

    The music at the beginning was beatiful...

  • @DJaysParadise
    @DJaysParadise 13 років тому

    Good commenting on the video finally explaining those ppl out there why it is nonsense to complain about Bike vs Car comparisons

  • @britishbikes12
    @britishbikes12 12 років тому

    As I and Motor Trend have said, a tight track helps the car. The Streets is a tight track, but the bike won in spite of the advantage.

  • @SDkawi6
    @SDkawi6 13 років тому

    Lap records at willow springs technical track are by Jeremy Toye on an R6 and Cbr 1000rr.
    R6 clocked 1:14.913
    CBR ran a 1:14.271

  • @88Mitsuomi88
    @88Mitsuomi88 10 років тому +1

    The fuck is everyone comparing? Both are absolute monsters. If I could afford the Ferrari, I would certainly afford the Ducati also.
    I believe that any petrol-head would have loads of fun in both regardless which one is faster.
    Whatever you ride, enjoy it and drive safe.

  • @lupo0144
    @lupo0144 12 років тому

    Like you said...This course! Try the Ring!

  • @spidiq8
    @spidiq8 12 років тому

    Why not, just because its unfeasible it's not impossible. You win a competition, the prize is either the Ferrari or a Superbike for example. Maybe you could also tell that to the numerous racing drivers and riders that have had that exact thing happen to them also? You could have a very wealthy family, get you a ferrari for your birthday when you get your license. Whether you think it's obsolete (bad choice of descriptive), doesn't matter, that's clearly what the poster meant.

  • @SDkawi6
    @SDkawi6 13 років тому

    @MrsShadowBroker Yes i do. Look up "650SBK Race - Streets of Willow" he takes third at 1:19.44 or something like that on a dayton 675. Tires were Pirelli Supercorsa Pro's with a 190 rear. Bikes are modified to though.. But nothing to crazy we cant do in our own garage.. I heard the record is 1:15.8 still looking for it though. And this track is the same technical version in this video.. They have a larger track they use these days.. weird if you ask me.. I like the smaller one..

  • @SDkawi6
    @SDkawi6 13 років тому

    @OnInstiinct no worries.lol.. It was the 2009. Google "2009 supersport shootout track."

  • @54spatula
    @54spatula 13 років тому

    @SDkawi6 I know man. I love coming back to this page, it's hilarious.

  • @stoneeh
    @stoneeh 13 років тому

    @loeger1 noise restrictions/regulations require exhaust systems that restrict air flow. engines, especially high reving naturally aspirated ones like the ferrari's, are all about air flow

  • @samp1441
    @samp1441 9 років тому

    I can't believe that damn motorcycle beat the almighty 458 Italia, it is even my favorite Ferrari too. You're gonna make every Ferrari fan furious, but you were right that the Ferrari is better to drive and take less courage to show off its performance.

  • @spidiq8
    @spidiq8 12 років тому

    hmm, no, it's factual, Ducati were the first to succesfully use the layout on a sports machine in the early 70's, they were also responsible for several other innovations in motorcyling history thanks largely to Fabio Taglioni, namely, the Desmodromic valves allowing higher rev limits, the bevel drive, using the motor as a stressed member years before the competition, mass centralisation before the term existed, strong and light trellis frame.

  • @mriegger
    @mriegger 10 років тому

    The real star here is Willow Springs. God I love that track.

  • @250lmjohn
    @250lmjohn 12 років тому

    It really amuses me how every hates on Ferraris and that they have never even seen one in person

  • @ehormann238
    @ehormann238 12 років тому

    no, your english was great. and i agree, everyone knows the power to weight of the a supersport bike will always win in a drag, the power to weight of those things is like that of a balistic missile (i ride a Triumph Speed Triple, and that is no pushover in my opinion, at 138 hp) but a full race would be particularly interesting, id love to see that, like a WSBK race with other high end race cars with them too! (i dont know the car class terms, sorry)

  • @azimuth361
    @azimuth361 12 років тому

    Well... it all depends. The bike can accelerate faster and brake faster and later. But the car has more rubber on the road and can take turns at higher speeds. Overall lap time may be shorter on this course, but the results may be different on a bendier course.

  • @lupo0144
    @lupo0144 12 років тому

    In these conditions with these two people and that's all it really shows!

  • @Trades46
    @Trades46 12 років тому

    Nice vid.
    Now run a F12 Berlinetta against the 1199 Panigale S. Would be interesting to see what happens.

  • @Veyronp87
    @Veyronp87 12 років тому

    they're both works of art

  • @DIgitusSmartas
    @DIgitusSmartas 9 років тому +1

    Whichever you buy one will not get disappointed not even tiny little bit.

  • @sriranganferrari
    @sriranganferrari 12 років тому

    Dude...they can dude, FACT - Car lovers even love bikes...BOTH ROCK!!!...

  • @carlrsxs
    @carlrsxs 12 років тому

    you're right! motorcycle will always loose on top speed vs a car. Even the liter supersport bikes top at about 300km/h vs supercar, which can reach up to 350+km/h. In acceleration, bikes win because of the unbelievable power/weight ratio :)

  • @lordfyrbane3587
    @lordfyrbane3587 11 років тому

    Superbikes always win against supercars. You simply cannot beat the thrill of riding a bike like the Duke.

  • @azimuth361
    @azimuth361 12 років тому

    Bikes can stop faster and begin to brake closer to the apex than a car. A car usually takes longer to stop because they're so much heavier and the driver has to hit the pedal farther from the apex.

  • @axwes
    @axwes 7 років тому

    What's the music at the start? I can't find it from Shazam.

  • @Pwnzistor
    @Pwnzistor 13 років тому +1

    1:22 is 2 seconds faster than the GTR went around Willow

  • @myducatimonster1100
    @myducatimonster1100 11 років тому

    Normally, Ferrari fans are Ducati fans as well... Both are italian masterpieces.

  • @ehormann238
    @ehormann238 12 років тому

    GT1, GT2, GT3 those one, whichever they determine is most congruent with the performance of the bikes, i would love to see as close a match as possible

  • @hanhwimer1079
    @hanhwimer1079 11 років тому

    Jim Gleason/MotorTrend! Could you please tell me the name of the song playing at 0:09! I'm absolutely in love with it!

  • @Marios796
    @Marios796 12 років тому

    Do you remember the order of the fastest bikes ? because i can't seem to find it anywhere

  • @ZoneTelevision
    @ZoneTelevision 12 років тому

    Most of us here will never sit in let alone own 458. I would personally rather have the Ducati it just requires more talent and the fun factor there's no comparison.

  • @nanoeuse4027
    @nanoeuse4027 11 років тому

    even my grandma can drive a ferrari but to drive a superbike? will take a lot of skill and braveness

  • @thecarbonhornet
    @thecarbonhornet 11 років тому

    Thats the thing about people who buy fancy cars. Their more concerned with how other people view them rather than the amazing performance they offer.

  • @SirWadsalot
    @SirWadsalot 11 років тому

    These car vs bike things are all about the rider, Steve Rapp is a "retired" superbike racer and now Ducati development rider. Best of the best. Most anyone else would have lost to the Ferrari, cars usually win these things on the road course. But machine wise? The only things faster than bikes? F1 cars post faster lap times than MotoGP bikes, but even then GP bikes out accelerate the cars and hold the top speed records on the same tracks. F1 has 24in tires vs a credit card sized contact patch...

  • @britishbikes12
    @britishbikes12 12 років тому

    Bikes do not race @ the Ring. This track is not anomalous regarding the lap time disparity. MT chose this track to favor the car, since the tight layout would negate the 1198's accelerative advantage. A faster track like Big Willow would probably give another second to the bike, as it has in the past when it was included in similar tests.

  • @wildbird777
    @wildbird777 12 років тому

    Very nice video.

  • @britishbikes12
    @britishbikes12 12 років тому

    Because motoGP is not a production class, it is a prototype class, like F1. The S1000rr competes in superstock or superbike classes which are production based and is not allowed in MotoGP

  • @Jayeagles03
    @Jayeagles03 9 років тому

    Does anybody know the name of the song playing in the beginning between 0:08-1:24

  • @itskevinnigguh
    @itskevinnigguh 11 років тому +1

    Fact about the Ducati, it is in the top 10 most expensive motorbike's in the world.

    • @Syko3599
      @Syko3599 11 років тому +12

      and yet less than 10% of the price of the ferrari

    • @BooneDogggy
      @BooneDogggy 11 років тому +7

      A Toyota Camry costs more than the Ducati. It's kind of crazy to think a vehicle cheaper than most economy cars can blow away $300k+ sport cars.

  • @Jack118GTR
    @Jack118GTR 12 років тому

    They are both as practical as each other so the bike for me everytime.

  • @DarthVader-eg9jm
    @DarthVader-eg9jm 6 років тому

    Just purchased 458 spider and you can't describe the feeling of this car on a winding road with the top down with the sun in your face. I recommend the Cowiche Canyon in WA state. There is nothing better ....my Lambo Superleggera is not even close.

    • @Mokarney
      @Mokarney 6 років тому

      I own a 458 and a Ducati 1199S Panigale. The two are just simply two different machines. The thrill from the 458 is far different than anything you get on a Ducati.