Model M keyboard from 1986. I got it working on my modern PC!

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    My new keyboard is nearly as old as I am!
    In this exciting episode of Veronica Explains, I share my most recent vintage computing find, an actual factual IBM Model M keyboard!
    This keyboard - an IBM Model M 1390131 to be precise - is a legend for excellent feel and longevity- this one is from 1986 and feels (and sounds) like a dream. The retro computing community loves this keyboard for good reason!
    It's not just show-and-tell in today's episode, though- I'll be going into how I got it set up with my modern USB-only computer using a Soarer's Converter- an excellent adapter which lets me remap keys, program macros, and other fun stuff.
    With this awesome adapter, you can easily remap keys on your Model M, and it works on Linux, macOS, and Windows.
    It's super neat and I hope you enjoy it!
    Links referenced in the video:
    🛍️ eBay store where I bought the converter: www.ebay.com/str/barcodemaverick
    📌 Very helpful website which explains how the Soarer's Converter works: sharktastica.co.uk/guides/soa...
    ✈️ Geekhack with Soarer: geekhack.org/index.php?topic=...
    🔩 GeekHack wiki bolt mod: wiki.geekhack.org/index.php?t...
    🦐 PJRC's Teensy adapter: www.pjrc.com/store/teensy.html
    👂 PJRC's HID Listen: www.pjrc.com/teensy/hid_liste...
    ⭐ Adafruit pinout for AT connector: learn.adafruit.com/convert-yo...
    Commands:
    Packages needed for Linux users:
    Fedora: `sudo dnf install libstdc++.i686 libusb-compat-0.1.i686`
    Ubuntu: `sudo apt install libusb-1.1-4:i386`
    Soarer's Converter tools format:
    First, create a binary with `./scas [layout file] [target binary]`
    Second, flash the binary with `./scwr [binary created with scas]`
    Chapters:
    00:00 Introducing my Model M
    00:46 History of the Model M
    04:34 Price and comparison with Unicomp
    05:54 How'd I get my Model M?
    09:48 Cleanup Montage
    11:12 Why use a Soarer's Converter?
    14:41 Remapping keys with the Soarer's Converter
    21:06 Is the Soarer's Converter worth it?
    22:32 Ask Veronica
    #ibm #retrocomputing #keyboard
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  • @sharktastica
    @sharktastica Рік тому +185

    Admiral Shark here! Thank you for your kind words, I'm glad my site's content was helpful! It always means a lot to hear my work has helped someone.

    • @VeronicaExplains
      @VeronicaExplains  Рік тому +30

      Oh my wow, thank you for the awesome site! It really is helpful and I highly recommend it!!

    • @FernandoFischer6048
      @FernandoFischer6048 Рік тому +1

      ​@@VeronicaExplains my apologies I was zapping on the 24 minute video, I guess I mised those three seconds you were typing! :)

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Рік тому +3

      Your site has been an invaluable repository of information for me as well, and it's aesthetically pleasing to boot. I don't know of another with such an exhaustive catalogue of models. Thanks.

    • @sharktastica
      @sharktastica Рік тому +2

      @@VeronicaExplains Thank you! :)

    • @sharktastica
      @sharktastica Рік тому +3

      @@bsadewitz Thank you for your kind words, glad you liked it!

  • @mxg75
    @mxg75 Рік тому +7

    The “Open Apple” terminology comes from the Apple II line, where there were “open apple” (an outline of the logo) and “closed apple” (filled in logo) modifier keys. Some early ADB keyboard are used on both Macs and the IIGS, so had both symbols.
    The Apple key got replaced with the knot Command symbol on the Mac 128k. Steve Jobs saw an Apple logo as part of every keyboard shortcut listed in the menu, declared “We’re using the Apple logo in vain,” and had Susan Kare come up with an alternative. She found the ⌘ symbol in an international symbol dictionary. It comes from Sweden, where it’s used on road signs and maps to mark a point of interest or a campground.

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 6 місяців тому +1

      I did not know that. I never knew what the heck that ⌘ glyph was for. I mean I know it means "Command" but it's a dumb/unexplained bit of Mac cult.

    • @blufudgecrispyrice8528
      @blufudgecrispyrice8528 3 місяці тому

      That's pretty cool.

  • @kc7klz
    @kc7klz 16 днів тому

    Now this video brings me back memories from one of my past lives. I was a desktop support technician in the mid-90's. I made side money picking up old keyboards from the thrift shops, rebuilding them and reselling them. I could buy them for about $5.00, and after doing a full refurbish, I would sell them for between $30 to 60. I did a lot of the old IBM spring keyboards. I loved typing on them.

  • @kdietz65
    @kdietz65 10 місяців тому +5

    The ironic thing about this is back in the day, when I owned and used an IBM XT, PC magazines of the time had numerous advertisements and reviews of alternate keyboards. Not everyone liked the original keyboard at the time. Now they are nostalgic and in demand. It's a little bit like old camera lenses that had various optical flaws, reviled by their owners at the time, but now sought after to recreate and remember the "character" of the old lenses.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 7 місяців тому

      I never was much of a fan of the Model M, tho I had at one time accumulated a hefty stash of 'em from dumpster-diving at work. I like a bit less resistance when I type, and my wife hated the noise (an issue when you're up half the night trying to fix stuff at work from your desk at home!) I've managed to build up a healthy stock of later membrane IBM 'boards, some ps/2 and some USB, which should last me 'til I run down the curtain and join the Choir Invisible.

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 6 місяців тому +1

      Back in the day PC Magazine and PC Shopper gushed over the NorthGate keyboard which took the IBM PC and AT keyboard layouts and basically combined them giving you a bunch of keys where the XT function keys were (far left) as well as the row of function keys at the top. They gushed over it's utility and the fact that it had just MORE keys. I think they had Macro capability on these extra keys. There are gaming keyboards in the modern era that to me seem like descendants of the Northgate OmniKey keyboard. If I could find a nice working OmniKey at a good price, I'd jump on it, for the pure nostalgia. I had one back in the day.

  • @ringo8410
    @ringo8410 Рік тому +8

    I don't have any words of wisdom about your keyboard; I just want to say how cool it is that you found a Model M! My Dad had an IBM computer (not an AT) in the mid '80s and we had a keyboard just like that. Awesome channel!

  • @mccuba48
    @mccuba48 Рік тому +3

    Bought one back in the nineties in CompUSA for 99 dollars... and rescued some from my old job that were going to the trash. Still in use today daily.

  • @ThatOneGirlThatPlays
    @ThatOneGirlThatPlays 3 дні тому

    286 was my first pc too! Even in the school pc lab. I’m watching this to get to know my old keyboard better.

  • @livvy94
    @livvy94 Рік тому +9

    Hearing someone refer to the command key as the Open-Apple key unlocked a whole bunch of memories! I remember teaching my fourth grade friends what copy and paste was, and them chanting "Open-Apple X, Open-Apple C, Open-Apple V, V, V!" like a rap song 😂 must have been around 2004. The school had a room crammed with Bondi blue iMacs loaded up with the At Ease launcher (to stop people like me from missing with the settings... I used to get around it anyway 😅) and a bunch of edutainment games!

    • @VeronicaExplains
      @VeronicaExplains  Рік тому +2

      I always snap back to computer lab with the Apple II, learning how to type on some Word Processor, and the teacher talking repeatedly saying "Open-Apple-S will save to disk" to all of the kids. In my mind it'll just always be "Open-Apple" and not Command. :)

  • @solomonthatcher7247
    @solomonthatcher7247 Рік тому +3

    Just found your channel recently, and I love the videos! I just bought a Unicomp Model M a few days ago, and am so excited to see it arrive. Can't wait to see more videos in the near future!

  • @boo_1096
    @boo_1096 Рік тому +11

    Love the editing in this video, the new intro rocks aswell!

  • @ranman1959
    @ranman1959 Рік тому +7

    I worked on IBM mainframes for decades. I had a few of these over the years; I think I finally got rid of the last one a few years ago. I believe these keyboards were very similar to the ones supplied with the old 3278 and 3279 terminals, at least as regards to the actual build quality. I wrote a lot of COBOL code back in the '70s & '80s!

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 7 місяців тому

      I dunno about the comparison to the 327x keyboards. I never had to do the "pick it up a foot or so and drop it" repair (keys on the 327x keyboards would get stuck if the keyboard got dirty or had something spilled on it, and picking it up and dropping it would invariably unstick the stuck keys) with a Model M.

  • @ericcacciatoribellini7772
    @ericcacciatoribellini7772 Рік тому

    your content arrived in Brazil and hit me hard. thank you so much for these wonderful videos.

  • @TradieTrev
    @TradieTrev Рік тому

    You're so agnostic, potent and to the point! Probably one of my favorite linux channels, hat's off my dear.

  • @clark-r
    @clark-r Рік тому

    Really huge thanks for going through this. Finally got to prodding around on this project for my Model M, and you REALLLY helped. Much appreciated! (:

  • @NachtmahrNebenan
    @NachtmahrNebenan Рік тому +16

    The classic keyboard really brings a satisfying experience of its own. But it also could test the relationship with your partner 😄

    • @captainpondscum
      @captainpondscum Рік тому +1

      Oh yes. That's why I have two keyboards at my desk! 😂

  • @lonewolf31337
    @lonewolf31337 Рік тому

    I always enjoy your videos so much. Very informative for the enthusiasts. Thank you

  • @wmgreenleaf5671
    @wmgreenleaf5671 Рік тому

    Great video, go ahead with the modifications when you rebuild this keyboard ! Always enjoy your content.

  • @moriendus
    @moriendus Рік тому

    I had one of these keyboards growing up and your channel makes me nostalgic.

  • @brianhonaker
    @brianhonaker Місяць тому

    I also have a Model M and retired it because the active adapter I was using needed to be unplugged and re-plugged every time I rebooted the PC. Thanks for the new adapter. Time to drag it back out for my Raspberry Pi!!

  • @TomasGregovich
    @TomasGregovich Рік тому

    How did I not find this channel earlier, this is my favorite kind of content. Awesome stuff!

  • @bringyourownbrilliance4353
    @bringyourownbrilliance4353 Рік тому +1

    I discovered your channel today. I love your content! Best wishes to You, for continued success! From London, Ontario, Canada.

  • @hackersarchangel
    @hackersarchangel Рік тому +6

    I love how you cite your sources in the correct format by including the date and stuff. Very cool.
    I happen to have two PS/2 models M’s. One made in May 1987 and the other made in 1992/1993.
    I use one and have been keeping the other as spare parts, but now I may try and offload one so I can spring (punny) for a Unicomp version. I can’t imagine it would be substantially different.

    • @VeronicaExplains
      @VeronicaExplains  Рік тому +2

      That's a great pun. And some folks say the Unicomp ones are very different, others disagree. Totally depends on your perspective and comparison, I suppose. I'm no expert, but my understanding (could be wrong) is that Unicomp's designs are based around the later models, which are different from the early ones. Lighter, different key feel, etc. Again, I might be wrong- sources are *highly opinionated* and I tend to just say "use what you like".
      What I like about my Unicomp is the super/menu keys and the USB. Keyfeel is similar, although this IBM Model M certainly feels like I'm pushing "less hard" to actuate a keystroke (although not significantly less).

    • @captainpondscum
      @captainpondscum Рік тому +2

      @@VeronicaExplains I have both. The Unicomp ones have an all-in-one keycap/stem. You can't swap the keycaps the way you demoed in the video, and I don't think the sound is quite the same, but the feel is nice!
      P.S. This was the first video of yours I found, and I very much enjoyed it! So cool that you're doing COBOL. Very few people know where the 80 column limit came from-one Python job I had enforced the PEP-8 style, which limits line length to 80 characters, and when I joked that we were writing punchcard-compliant code, I just got blank stares!

    • @mgsp5871
      @mgsp5871 Рік тому

      The Unicomp i bought is now dead after 3 years. Some of the scanlines seem to be broken.
      It had the same feeling but the mechanical quality is not the same as the original.
      So i am back on the original M without extra keys.
      I have 2 M's and i hope i can use at least one of them until my retirement.

    • @xb0xisbetter
      @xb0xisbetter Рік тому

      I hope the 87 one is the daily driver. There's no reason to sell an original to get a Unicomp if there's nothing wrong with it.
      They are most like the later Model Ms because Unicomp was founded by former IBM employees and were manufacturing Model Ms for IBM after they stopped making them themselves and sold their tooling to Unicomp.

  • @vitajazz
    @vitajazz Рік тому +10

    I actually have a Lexmark model M buckling spring keyboard with the two Windows keys on a PS/2 connector. It has always been my favourite keyboard. Only a few weeks ago I discovered that this was a collectible item, even though I'd picked it up at Goodwill for $2. Thank you for telling us the fascinating background to this classic.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Рік тому +1

      Believe it or not, those are the *worst* of all the IBM buckling spring keyboards in terms of build quality. And by that I mean, of course, that they're excellent. 😂

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Рік тому +1

      Pretty sweet that you got like a 98% discount, haha.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Рік тому

      The model Ms from the 1980s are significantly more robust--some have steel backplates, IIRC, or at least considerably thicker plastic. The IBM 4704 banking terminal keyboard's body is thick CAST ZINC.

    • @xb0xisbetter
      @xb0xisbetter Рік тому

      @@bsadewitz I don't think anything held together with plastic rivets has good build quality.
      I have a few 4704s, mostly repros.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Рік тому

      @@xb0xisbetter Why not? They don't become a point of failure until they start disintegrating. Plus, you're comparing them to a keyboard made of cast zinc alloy. How many of those are there, one? Not everyone has $500 per keyboard to spend. My father ran a business with a large warehouse years ago, and they had all model M keyboards at every terminal as well as their desktop PCs. He never mentioned the slightest bit of trouble with them.

  • @dylan.t180
    @dylan.t180 Рік тому

    Lovely keyboard thanks for the video really enjoying your uploads

  • @jaycincinnati
    @jaycincinnati Рік тому

    very good, as always. Thank You

  • @ArthurDent75
    @ArthurDent75 Рік тому

    Your t-shirt is absolutely brilliant! Love it!

  • @Rothkeen
    @Rothkeen Рік тому

    Just found your channel. I love your delivery and video editing. You got another sub.

  • @Phil_Goodman
    @Phil_Goodman Рік тому

    thank you so much for making this video

  • @tvsmed
    @tvsmed Рік тому +1

    Finally you're back! This is not just about the writing experience. But also that look! and that clicky sound. Sure the Unicomp is a good keyboard, it just doesn't sound right. The model M was the first keyboard I ever used, on THE AT and then ps2. I still miss that keyboard. It was is the definition of the PC keyboard. I wonder how much impact the IBM typewriters had on the design. Those typewriters had marvelous keyboards. Thank you for another great video. ❤️

  • @kevinchastain727
    @kevinchastain727 Рік тому +2

    Love this channel, have learned some things I never heard on other sites.
    I will now have to do this with my old IBM key board just because it can be done.
    I was told that COBOL and Fortran was still used because of the accuracy of the mathematical computation that is necessary
    in things like aerospace and banking, where even a small rounding of numbers will become a big problem.

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 7 місяців тому

      The bean-counters love having their software in COBOL on IBM mainframes because the S/360 and its descendants have BCD math capabilities in hardware, so you didn't suffer the uncertainties of converting your dollars and cents into floating point binary.

  • @rudelchw
    @rudelchw Рік тому +3

    I first used one of these keyboards back on 1989, when the company I worked for got me a new PS/2 Model 70 (top of the line, with an 8514/A graphics card for a whooping 1024 x 768 resolution :) ... I kept that keyboard for many many years, carrying it on to the newer PCs that the company used over the years, no newere keyboard was better and the windows key didn't meant much to me. When I retired, I did so with that keeyboard among my stuff, and used it for many more years on my home PC, until recently, when motherboards dispensed with the PS/2 interface .. it was really durable, lasting in constant use for over 25 years. Love your channel btw. Cheers!

  • @srmillsap
    @srmillsap Рік тому

    Love this video, it has all the snark and I am here for it!

  • @meowcula
    @meowcula Рік тому

    Your videos just keep getting better.

  • @danielho5635
    @danielho5635 Рік тому +1

    I've used many many keyboards over the years including: original IBM PC, PC/AT (Model M), Northgate OmniKey, Gateway AnyKey, Dell's SK-8135, etc. etc. My biggest gripe against the Model M is that the spring is way too stiff. Your fingers will get tired in an hour or two of typing ( I type 110 wpm). For me, ergonomics and comfort are my top priorities. I currently like the Kinesis Freestyle2 (rubber dome) and Kinesis Freestyle Pro (Cherry Red Silent). I also switched from QWERTY to Colemak about 10 yrs ago and love it. My all-time favorite keyboard is the one on the IBM 3178-2 terminal. OMG!!! What a dream!!! If you imagine having a keyboard with the lightness and quietness of a rubber dome w/ the tactile feel of a MX-Brown, that would be the keyboard of an IBM 3278-2 terminal. Oh yeah .. my other BIG GRIPE w/ the IBM Model M is how IBM moved the left Control key from above the left shift key to below the shift key. STUPID!!! Curse you IBM.

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 6 місяців тому

      I have very strong fingers and I can type 110-120 wpm for hours without tiring on most buckling spring keyboards. I don't mind rubber dome keyboards if they are well built rubber dome keyboards with a stronger backplate and less flex than the cheap crap.

  • @esaedvik
    @esaedvik Рік тому

    Never had one of these myself, IIRC, but a bit before I moved to PCs from a C-64, friend of mine had an IBM XT and the moments we spent smashing that keyboard definitely still bring a tear to my eye. Just seeing the keyb fills me with joy. Remembering games like Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego, alllll the Sierra games, Eye of the Beholder etc. A+ memories.

  • @ty2k
    @ty2k Рік тому

    This is the best Model M video. Love it!

  • @jeddak
    @jeddak 4 місяці тому

    Great video. Thank you!

  • @rwl0323
    @rwl0323 Рік тому

    Love the history lesson here! Please do more!

  • @jikissgamer
    @jikissgamer Рік тому +1

    This video was excellent, I really enjoyed watching it. You have some very extensive knowledge about these keyboards.
    On the subject of bolt modding, I would only recommend it if the plastic rivets have broken off. Otherwise I wouldn't worry about it since a bolt mod doesn't really affect keyfeel, it's more of a repair.

  • @TheShannonagains
    @TheShannonagains Рік тому +1

    Awesome video; the first Christmas present my wife got me back when we were dating was an old model m that was sitting in a run down shack on her property. It was disgustingly corroded but she knew that I had wanted it. It was unfortunately not functioning, but after some tinkering and exploration, I managed to use some parts from a rubber dome model m to repair it and then bolt mod them together. I love it so much! Can't say how a bolt mod feels in comparison, but it helped in the teardown.

  • @oleurgast730
    @oleurgast730 Рік тому +5

    Actual the best feature of the soarers converter is supporting the terminal keyboards (layer 3 protocol). For normal model M it is a bit of overkill, as the DIN->PS/2 adaper and a PS/2->USB adaper work quite well and are extremly cheap (or still flying around anyways). So if you do not need makros or remapping, that might be the way to go (esp. if not changing the keyboard between different OS or computers).
    But terminal keyboards are a totaly other world - and sometimes a lot cheaper. I spend about 40€ a few years ago in good condition, while the normal model M already passed the 150€ mark. Soarer's converter was not available as "ready 2 use" solution back than. I had to solder it myself using a Teensy. But it worked perfectly. As I am from germany, many symbols often used are not available on normal keyboards - like the typographicly correct quotation marks. While using word, you can set an option to automaticly replace normal quotation marks by typographicly correct ones for the german language. But sadly, it becomes hard to use the normal quotation marks than (for code f.e.). So with all those extra keys, it was easy to set them to macros, to simply send the alt+keyboard number unicode. So no need to remap anything, as there are a lot of extra function keys. Of course, if you do not have this specific problem, I would still recomend to use terminal keyboards for example for OBS. Just use the extra function keys for switching scenes. Pretty usefull, as you do not need fancy combinations as hotkey, still can use the keybord for normal typing but call scenes without problems by one keystroke. As I used an old version I do not know if there is a function to make use of the unused I/Os, but it would actualy nice to trigger a KMV-switch by the capslock key, to use the keyboard on two computers....

    • @thanismurugathas2929
      @thanismurugathas2929 10 місяців тому

      Wow thank you so much! I was thinking about getting a terminal/RJ45 connector Model M but I was unsure if it works with modern computers. Hopefully a Soarer converter would work as you say!

  • @Adiusza
    @Adiusza Рік тому

    Great work, very nice video :D

  • @jonaskeepauthor1935
    @jonaskeepauthor1935 Рік тому

    I had one of those, I loved that thing!

  • @strange67x
    @strange67x Рік тому

    Thanks for the video ! 🙂

  • @justineraagas2217
    @justineraagas2217 Рік тому

    thank you straight to the point

  • @Halb_Wert_Zeit
    @Halb_Wert_Zeit Рік тому

    I just stumbled over your channel. Somuch fun! Thanks.

  • @robertobissanti
    @robertobissanti Рік тому

    Awesome t-shirt!!! The Ethernet colors cables mapping for me is like as a nursery rhyme.

  • @esra_erimez
    @esra_erimez Рік тому +5

    My dad bought 2 Model M keyboards in the early 2000s before they were cool. He put APL keycaps on one of them. It is a geeky coolness at a whole other level.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Рік тому +1

      And Model M keyboards were ALWAYS cool. ;-) My dad was in charge of a branch office of a company that used all IBM hardware (like the desktops, and also an AS/400 with terminals all over the place). They had a huge bin in their warehouse with PILES of extra model M keyboards in it (because they just don't die). Everyone in our house had one. That bin would probably be worth easily $10,000 now.
      Believe it or not, the model M was actually IBM going all "cheapo" back in the day. Seriously. They were designed with cost savings in mind over the model F. The IBM 4704 banking terminal keyboard from the 80s had a body of CAST ZINC. And the buckling spring mechanism was itself designed as a less costly substitute for "beam springs", which is what they used in the 70s into the early 80s prior to the introduction of the PC for their mainframe terminals, etc.
      deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=16725
      www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/vintage/images/overlay/4506VV4024.jpg
      LOOK AT THAT BEAST!

    • @booboo699254
      @booboo699254 Рік тому

      You can still order the APL keycap set from Unicomp :)

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 7 місяців тому +1

      Lord does that take me back! My dad was compulsive about APL, to the point of equipping one of his early PCs with the STSC APL interpreter that came with a character set ROM for the MDA.

  • @mikebrophy
    @mikebrophy Рік тому +2

    Yellow card - minus 10 points for not using the phrase "kitty wampus" once in the video! 😉 Seriously though, great video. I used the Model M for years and a few years ago got the Unicomp as a holiday gift and love it, except my aging fingers and arthritis didn't like the keyforce required after a while and I've settled on shallow Cherry Blues which are fantastic. But I'll always have fond memories of the Model M. Also, the Model M is not open work environment friendly, but perfect for a private office/at home alone.

  • @Dokkalfar-eh3sk
    @Dokkalfar-eh3sk Рік тому

    definitively, I love this video, I came here because I had the curiosity on whay if I use a model m, or any classic ibm keyboard without a power key, not the answer I waited, but Much better on what I thought

  • @TechnicalTrap
    @TechnicalTrap Рік тому

    Thanks for more excellent content.

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 7 місяців тому

    It is the mid 90s, I'm from the UK and in college. I eventually, in about 1994, get onto a computer course. A year later eventually get a 386sx. Some how we end up with a keyboard like this, a clicky one but feels nice. I think nothing of it as I know no better. Years go by and it gets shelved and, sadly, eventually binned. I then have memories of that nice keyboard I had that was a bit clicky. Little did I know it was a sort after keyboard and I'd skipped it :(

  • @mauriciorosales1259
    @mauriciorosales1259 Рік тому

    I have two similar ones in my office, one with a PS2 connector and one with an AT connector. This makes me want to get it working. It feels so satisfying!!!

  • @notation254
    @notation254 Рік тому

    This channel is awesome.

  • @nickchristopoulos9613
    @nickchristopoulos9613 Рік тому

    Good one Ronnie! Many thanks, N.C. from sunny Oz land'

  • @spiffyleek5220
    @spiffyleek5220 2 місяці тому +1

    That intro was sooo sick let alone the entire editing on the vid

  • @tibbydudeza
    @tibbydudeza Рік тому +2

    I once worked on the original IBM PC AT with Model M keyboard - now use a Logitech G series mechanical keyboard - love the clack but at work for courtesy to my colleagues is a MS Keyboard.

  • @kaeptnkrunch9212
    @kaeptnkrunch9212 Рік тому

    My personal choice, Model M for PC and Extended Keyboard I for Mac. I'm happy with this combo 😊

  • @rsmrsm2000
    @rsmrsm2000 Рік тому +1

    Amazing!!!

  • @soldiersvejk2053
    @soldiersvejk2053 Рік тому +1

    I bought a Unicomp New Model M in early 2021. Had some issue with its USB controller, but was able to get a replacement. Overall a very good keyboard. The only thing is I wish they would have offered a beige color scheme.

  • @eduardpopescu9109
    @eduardpopescu9109 Рік тому +1

    yes, this bring back memories indeed...

  • @mcosta3810
    @mcosta3810 Рік тому

    This made me want my old model M keyboard back, even more than I already did! It's easily the best keyboard I've ever typed on.

  • @eplazai
    @eplazai Рік тому

    I was so lucky to use that Keyboard on an Aptiva 486. I missed so much "that" keystroke sound with the spring totally releasing at the end, is a part of my childhood.
    Nowadays I have a Keychron K2 with blue-switches (the clicky ones) but It is not the same.

  • @billcahill4218
    @billcahill4218 Рік тому

    Love the shirt!

  • @johncrunk8038
    @johncrunk8038 Рік тому

    How nostalgic. I have my model m from a boat anchor ps/2 server that I rescued from a company I worked at. They were closing down a building and I took a truckload of good stuff. My model m has been diligently serving on my HP Z800 for several years. We shoiuld all work so well after 35 years.

  • @W1ldTangent
    @W1ldTangent Рік тому +1

    I have a ThinkPad T430 that I've modded with the Tx00/Tx10/Tx20 keyboard, including reflashing the EC firmware to properly map it. Best mod ever, nothing beats a 7-row keyboard!

  • @rhysholdaway
    @rhysholdaway Рік тому

    Ohh. Love the old keyboard. I still use an early PS/2 IBM Model M on my machine.

  • @mjscheinberg
    @mjscheinberg Рік тому +1

    The ASMR of this video alone -- LOVE IT! I remember learning BASIC on the original PC, and the clickety goodness was just so wonderful.
    I suppose you're not going to cover the original PC jr. keyboard -- which was the evil stepsibling to the Model M? :)

    • @VeronicaExplains
      @VeronicaExplains  Рік тому

      Thank you! I don't have a PC jr. around, but I could imagine having some fun with one at some point!

  • @WalterKnox
    @WalterKnox Рік тому

    I work on a lot of older computers, and a while back some guy gave me an old IBM Aptiva computer from the Windows 98 era. He gave me an old keyboard with it as well, which he said was nasty and he was just going to throw it away. Low and behold it was a (dirty, but in good shape) Model M. It is branded as Ambra, which was supposedly one of IBMs lower end PC brands from back in the day. it is one of the later ones made by Lexmark, but it is still buckling springs, and it is before they got really light and cheap. I still use it on my main system, which is from around 2010, and I don't require any adapters of any sort, it just works.

  • @fedoraguy5252
    @fedoraguy5252 11 місяців тому

    I use to work at a UPMC hospital and we had a storage area with old model m keyboards with stickers just like that on the keys. It was used with some old word processing software that they used to check people into the ER.

  • @IrrationalExuberance
    @IrrationalExuberance Рік тому

    Very cool video... I've been thinking about getting my mom a mechanical keyboard because she is an old-school typist (trained in the 1960s on a typewriter as a proper keyboard Jedi, unlike me: a crude, self-taught barbarian who somehow has managed to internalize a vaguely efficient convulsion haphazardly since the 90s...)
    I was trying to convey to her how some online now allege that keyboard technology has actually degraded / gone backwards and lately there is the whole mechanical revival (such as the cherry switch ones that are trendy now...)
    I will definitely consider this alternative which you have proposed! She still spends a lot of time inputting bytes and I think it would be cool if she had a moment that was like "awww, yeah, this really was better back in the day... now I remember!" When older people listen to their favorite music, adjacent memories become more accessible, etc.

  • @jorgemv1
    @jorgemv1 Рік тому

    Nice video, good memories from those long gone days (age 51 here). Thank you!

  • @SixOThree
    @SixOThree Рік тому +18

    I don't have experience with the bolt mod but this keyboard has a "history of use", so in my book it's a candidate for modding. Great video, fun stuff. There are enough of these keyboards in museums. Letting this thing sit unused would be more of a travesty.

    • @geografiainfinitului
      @geografiainfinitului 11 місяців тому

      I know my comment is too old but I modded 8 Model Ms and I had one model like Veronica's and the barrel plate cracked
      I found a way to mod that will not crack the barrel plate.

  • @DanielAfonso-IT_Consultant
    @DanielAfonso-IT_Consultant Рік тому

    I do love the feel of model M but your sound test reminded me how much better modern, high-end mechanical boards are at controlling for all the noises that drive everyone around the typist nuts.
    But, wow, great job cleaning it up. They still look great after all these years.

  • @peachgrush
    @peachgrush Рік тому

    Congratulations on getting the Model M! It's an outstanding keyboard. I'm using one myself to type this comment as well :)
    As far as bolt modding is concerned - I was forced to do it, as my keyboard's membrane got dirty inside and I had to take it apart and clean it thoroughly. And once you open the membrane assembly, there's no way to get it assembled together other than bolt-modding it. However, if all you want is use your keyboard, you'll be completely fine with leaving the original plastic rivets in place.
    Anyway, you may want to take the outer cover off anyway, as it makes cleaning the keyboard much easier. And really, the Model M sounds and types A LOT better when it's absolutely clean.

  • @blevenzon
    @blevenzon Рік тому

    Yep I’m getting emotional looking at it, I was 14 programming QBasic on for schools PS/2 my passion for IT was sparked.

  • @billmiller4800
    @billmiller4800 Рік тому

    My Model M (built like a tank) came with an RJ45 connector and both a PC (*not AT as you mention) DIN connector cable and a separate PS/2 cable to be able to plug into both style of connectors. Both cables are wonderfully long too! Hardware mapping is also awesome when using Synergy or a KVM switch, so much better than software.
    Sitting beside a 250+ word-per-minute typist on a model M is like sitting in a bunker with a machine gun (or so my coworkers told me).
    COBOL rocks! Shared memory with some JCL FTW!!

  • @catherineholloway5550
    @catherineholloway5550 Рік тому +1

    I am a 90s kid and used a hand-me-down model m keyboard with a hand-me-down 386. I had no idea that the hardware I thought was lame because it was old had so much cachet until I showed photos of my childhood bedroom to my keyboard enthusiast coworkers.

  • @MikeWood
    @MikeWood Рік тому

    Your disclaimers made me chuckle several times here. One of those Grail keyboards. But as a tool it's a bit steep $$$ to get. I did wonder about the remapping of keys 👍

  • @Thankz4sharing
    @Thankz4sharing Рік тому

    I have an unforgettable memory of sliding the back plate off of a first generation IBM Model 5150 PC keyboard and having all eighty-something springs fly away randomly. No UA-cam how-tos in those days. Two hours later the last spring was found and I could proceed with repairing the broken circuit trace that brought the beast to my shop.
    I'll look for bolt mod videos to remind me what the inside of those keyboards look like when a more prudent person opens one.

  • @silvestroroberto9412
    @silvestroroberto9412 Рік тому

    About the spring under the key "End": you can swap it with the spring under a less used key like "Scroll Lock". I have a similar keybord from 1996 with PS/2 connector, (P/N 1393395, italian layout) in perfect working order, it's a true tank indeed.

  • @rweaver90
    @rweaver90 Рік тому

    I love your music 🤩

  • @Magicrat39
    @Magicrat39 Рік тому +1

    Been using a unicomp one for 2 years and really like it

  • @ZachStein
    @ZachStein Рік тому +4

    Great video! I use a model m as my daily driver (as a developer) and it's really helped with wrist and finger pain over a membrane keyboard. I think a better keyboard has yet to be invented.
    On the bolt mod question: Once the rivets deteriorate, which they eventually will, maybe it'll be years (the '92 I use at home has been in service for years without), maybe soon, the keys will get less reliable. The bolt mod permanently fixes this. I don't think it changes the feel much if at all from a properly riveted keyboard that has no broken rivets.
    You can get new springs on eBay or from unicomp for your end key.

    • @jimbrown5518
      @jimbrown5518 Рік тому +1

      Just what I came here to say, There is no reason to do a bolt and nut on a Model M unless the keys become mushy. I have one Model M that needs it and another that doesn't, the difference is unmistakable your Model M will feel unresponsive and the key feel will be like a rubber dome. It is caused by the plastic fasteners breaking and the backplate not being solidly held against the membrane/key assembly.

  • @richard-hawley
    @richard-hawley Рік тому

    Thank you. I have an old original IBM Model M keyboard but has a missing key-cap I hope to replace thanks to the information in your video. I compiled COBOL on this keyboard, a long time ago. Possibly just after skateboards, and John Travolta.

    • @BoredInNW6
      @BoredInNW6 Рік тому

      As well as new keycaps from Unicomp, you'll find that model M keycaps are frequently available on ebay, which may be cheaper (particularly outside the US).

  • @matthouben4242
    @matthouben4242 Рік тому

    Your statements at the end about legacy software is spot on. Programmers of Cobol, Fortran and even Assembly language will not be out of work soon.

  • @madmike178
    @madmike178 Рік тому

    That is a fine keyboard. Good luck with the bolt mod... Only you can say if it feels better for you, subjectivity is a thing. Good luck.

  • @Wandering_Horse
    @Wandering_Horse Рік тому

    Love the newly refurbished model M, it turned out beautiful! As a fellow Vim user here. I encourage a remap caps lock to Cntrl key. As a vim user I use control far more than esc. In addition c^[ is equivalent to esc. This is also historically correct as control was originally in the caps lock location.

  • @floycewhite6991
    @floycewhite6991 6 місяців тому

    IBM Selectric. Pure pleasure. Every key feels different, so you know if your hands are too far left or right.

  • @IncendiarySolution
    @IncendiarySolution Рік тому

    I did an ergogen project where i designed and printed my own keyboard based on my hand shape. It was neat!

  • @tbonedude12
    @tbonedude12 Рік тому +1

    You said it yourself, the model M is very much a capacitive MECHANICAL keyboard with the switch on the bottom and a buckling spring. Unique design for a switch but it does make it mechanical rather than membrane or optical.

  • @JarrodMcKitterick
    @JarrodMcKitterick Рік тому

    When I think about tabs and spaces my brain short circuits and I just start chanting 'always blue! always blue!' Thank you for another great video!

  • @billv4987
    @billv4987 Рік тому

    This video really delivered. In uni in the 90s we had an IBM AIX terminal lab with buckling spring keyboards. I cherish the memory of the exquisite keyboard racket caused by a bunch of nerds chatting on IRC.

    • @VeronicaExplains
      @VeronicaExplains  Рік тому +1

      I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

    • @mrz80
      @mrz80 7 місяців тому +1

      What kind of terminals, do you remember? 3151s or 3161s? Or the really ancient 3101s?

    • @billv4987
      @billv4987 7 місяців тому

      @@mrz80 I believe they were Xstation 120. In retrospect, a workstation as opposed to a terminal.

  • @__mader__
    @__mader__ Рік тому

    love the shirt with the rj-45 wiring!

    • @VeronicaExplains
      @VeronicaExplains  Рік тому

      Thanks! I sell them on my merch store: vkc.sh/merch. It's how I fund the channel fun!

  • @ACRPC-dot-NET
    @ACRPC-dot-NET Рік тому

    Love my Model M's, have them on my PCs at work and home. I've not bolt modded any of mine yet, though one might need it, it's not quite as "tight" as the others I have, I suspect some of the plastic rivets might have failed. I have been using mine with just cheap USB adapters, but I really want to get Soarers adapters for at least the 2 I use daily.

  • @shaurz
    @shaurz Рік тому

    I've had both an IBM Model M (UK PS/2) and Unicomp Model M. I managed to damage both with liquid spillage which corroded the key matrix layers, causing repeated/missed keys. I used a Filco Majestouch 2 for about 10 years and now use a Keychron K8.

  • @fubaralakbar6800
    @fubaralakbar6800 7 місяців тому

    My preferred way to test keyboards is by typing the sentence "How do you go to the bathroom in space?" (Without the question mark)
    It makes for a good mix of keys from both sides of the keyboard, and is long enough to give you a good analysis.
    Note: that's for testing out display models in stores, to see how they sound and feel. For actually testing out new-old keyboards to make sure they work, you would want "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" for obvious reasons, followed by long strings of numbers and other characters.

  • @AndrewErwin73
    @AndrewErwin73 Рік тому

    I am also a vim user. I used to remap caps lock to esc... nowadays, I have the keymaps "kj" and "jk" which = ... so much easier than even caps lock!

  • @waynebagger643
    @waynebagger643 Рік тому

    Hi. Thanks for this. I started out on mainframes back in the late 80s and I loved those keyboards. Then I got an IBM PS/2 with the same keyboard in the 90s. Kept it for years until someone nicked it 😢
    Might have a look at the Unicomp keyboards.

  • @markbooth3066
    @markbooth3066 5 місяців тому

    My other half used to love her Model M keyboard. Sadly her Mum threw it out when her (then very obsolete) PS/2 Model 80 was replaced with a newer, more modern PC. I don't think she ever forgave her Mum. *8')
    We now have dozens of dead and discarded keyboards in our garage, from trying to recapture that long lost dream. These days however, practicality has edged out nostalgia, and we've settled on Keychron Q6's as our daily drivers. After finally finding a keyboard that she both loved and lasted more than six months, she bought me one for my birthday this year. The Q6 has the same sturdy feel I remember of those early IBM keyboards (being a viable weapon for self-defence), with all the modern bells and whistles, while also being completely configurable (with QMK) and eminently hackable. Neither of us are keyboard snobs, I use my Q6 stock, and I'm very happy with it, but she's played with all sorts of upgrades, getting it into a state better than her memories of her Model M, while being a *lot* quieter.
    I never had a model M. My first PC was an original IBM PC, that I scavenged from an office fire. I ended replacing everything but the case, PSU (which amazingly survived) and keyboard, stripping the Model F keyboard down to the PCB to clean up all of the soot clogged contacts. It was only after I bought a new motherboard for that system that I discovered that with newer 8 slot motherboards, only two of the slots lined up with the old 5-slot IBM case. *8')
    Oh, and I'm going to steal your idea of remapping Capslock to ESC, I already use QMK to remap Caps lock functionality to fn+caps lock, to avoid accidentally SHOUTING, but re-using it for ESC makes a lot of sense. Also, TIA/EIA-568B for the win, just say no to T568A!