Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a Mauser 98 style rifle!! They will last literally several lifetimes and the caliber can take anything on the planet. After all, that is what it was designed to do!! Great rifle sir!
I have an LKM70 in 8x57 mm Mauser and their mini Mauser in 7.62 x 39 mm and they are just amazing rifles. I own bolt actions from all the best manufacturers and Zastava rifles are every single bit the quality and have the accuracy as any other great rifle maker. They are top shelf rifles at a very fair and affordable price. I'll buy a 3rd when one falls under my eye in the future.
Nice to see a different caliber being shown here on UA-cam. Thanks for sharing your loads and results. Kindly keep us updated on your loads as you develop them.
I'm glad to see yours is a good one. I bought the M70 full stock 9.3x62mm and it turned out to be a bit of a nightmare. Paid $909.95CDN for the rifle brand new, It would not load if there was more than 2 cartridges in the magazine, bolt would ride overtop the rounds. My gunsmith / gun dealer, who sold me the rifle, tried it himself, and it was the same for him. We shipped it back to Zastava's Canadian distributor for repair or replacement. After all, this rifle was brand new and under warranty. Four weeks later I got a call from my gunsmith saying that it was in and that the supplier told him that it was fixed. We took it down to the range, and to our dismay it was exactly the same. My gunsmith called the distributor on the spot and told him that the rifle was going back again, and that it was staying there. It was obvious that the distributor never tested the rifle, even though he was told of the problem when we first returned it. Needless to say, I was rather upset with the situation, and rather pissed with the customer service received from the national distributor. So now I am the proud owner of a CZ550 Medium Lux in 9.3x62mm. It runs absolutely flawlessly, though it was quite a bit more expensive. I'll admit the M70 especially the full stocks are beautiful rifles, and being a 98 Mauser pattern rifle I'm sure that lemons are few and far between. But Zastava's lack of proper warranty service leaves me unwilling to give them another try.
i bought m70 too and had the same problem it simply wont load with more than one round in it.But i fixed it myslef it was steel spring that was not corectly balanced.Action is a litle bit rough but i think its great rifle that can take more punishemnt then any other on market
Just got my own in .270 after a neighbour passed away. I refinished the stock fully. Totally cleaned out the action. New vortex scope. Ready for another 35 years of dropping deer and moose
This would be an awesome rifle for hunting in Alaska. That caliber would hammer a bull moose and I'd feel pretty safe knowing it's a controlled round feed in case I encounter an angry grizzly bear.
Another good review G42. Ive been looking at the Z M70 in 6.5 swede...been looking for a 6.5 swede CZ550 American for over a year now. Its as close as i can get.
Check out tradeexcanada.com/produits/108. $695 for 6.5x55 in stock. The CZ is a little bit smoother and polished and has set triggers, nicer wood, but it's what, $1000?
Just bought an Interarms Mark X Continental, with Mannlicher stock, in .270 Winchester. It had sat in the shop for a few months, a very good looking older Zastava from 1977. Zastava does a wonderful job on their commercial rifles, at least the metal work, mine is near flawless. It has a double set trigger, butterknife bolt handle, and came with a Leupold 2-5-8 scope. The stock finish is pretty good, decent skip line checkering, not pre-64 Winchester but not bad. Zastava's .22 rifles are a great value, the same attention to metal finish, stocks usually need refinishing but that's a good winter project. The triggers are adjustable and can be made to be quite nice. I think they are great value compared to CZ .22s, no plastic or stamped sheet metal, all milled steel and wood.
I spoke to the guys at Tradex several months ago about ordering M70 actions. Turns out buying the whole rifle was the same price. They said what they had in stock was the cheapest they would ever be, due to the Trudollar falling, and a factory price increase. So I took the plunge & bought three, in 6.5, .375, and .458, all left hand. They are real diamonds in the rough. Ordered three position safeties, & will install express sights. The stocks suck, but can be cut down and bondo-ed up to be sent off to be duplicated. Brownell's sells a tool to slick up the bolt slides to as good as a '98 ever gets. These are a huge bang for the buck, and can be turned into something better than rifles costing twice as much.
+zazale1 No experience with the Cow town stocks. Back when I worked with D. Henry Gunmakers I converted three Wildcat stocks to left hand. it's a pretty simple fix. Something to ponder.
With 58-60 grains of Varget (assuming safe for your rifle) you can get impressive groups and good velocity with 250gr Woodleigh or Barnes TSX projectiles. The triggers on these Zastava's are excellent and lend themselves to be adjusted for creep, weight of pull and back lash. A bargain of a rifle.
interesting to see you guys across the pond dont have a set trigger behind the actual trigger. It makes a world of difference when you are hunting in a blind. You can put the safety on, set the trigger and wait for a deer to cross paths with you. And when you are ready to shoot, you just disangage the safety and tuch the trigger (you really just have to tuch it)
Hey Glockster42 I see you have an Edmonton Oilers hat on in the beginning, I was thinking of buying a rifle in this caliber and was wondering if you know where I can find loaded ammo and reloading components for it in or around Edmonton. Thanks,
Bought one of these in about 2010 in 6.5 swede. Found it difficut to line up the iron sights; turned out the front sights was installed out of alignment with the back sights and it is loose as there is movement to it when pushing against it.
Recently purchased one I found at a gunshop. Its in 7x57, love that caliber. I'm looking to scope it and I had a question: I like to use 30mm sized scopes with rings, will the weaver mounts wheather its the 2 piece setup or a single rail, will it take/fit a 30mm scope ring setup?
They do import them here in the states k-var and century arms brings them in. I am looking to go to Maine for moose hunting and Montana for elk. For large game bear,moose and elk hell even bison it's hard to beat the 9.3x62mm. I am going to look into this round some more. Worst case scenario I could buy a 30-06. M-70 and ending up re-barreling it.
I own a centurion 123 in 30.06 springfield. Made in pasadena california. Exact same rifle as yours. I checked and doubled checked and they are the same. Must be a good one.
Great review. I absolutely love my m70 .22-250 1" groups at 200 yards. I personally zero 1" high at 100 yards and that gives me practically point and shoot out to 300 yards on Charlie fox.
Also, the 9.3x62 is a thumper, as i'm sure you know. If i were gonna shoot it a lot I'd throw a CZ style crossbolt in the stock in the front of the action.
Zastava has a custom shop where one may commission a rifle bespoke. Their stock rifles are built to maximise value for the money. They're not as refined as the Rigbys. The custom built Zastava rifles are stocked to measure, furnished bespoke, and their metal work and finish are world class. Zastava builds sniper rifles chambered in .50 BMG based on its proprietary Mauser M98 action. Their Mauser actions are world class. Their sniper rifles are highly esteemed by operators. Their hunting rifles should be highly esteemed by hunters. The sort of hunter who hunts in Africa can afford rifles from Rigby, Holland & Holland, Purdey, William Evans, Westley Richards etc., but the Zastavas, Winchesters, Sakos, and CZs, are mechanically reliable.
joelopezjl28 Well if the suggestion is one was copied from the other based on chronology, that may be. However, there was a lot more separation between everything back then, so it isn't as though folks in Germany couldn't wait to copy the latest US invention. If anything, the fact it was some other country, or company, or armoury's invention was probably a negative. Not to mention that the purpose for the 9.3 could hardly have been more different. And one of those purposes was to avoid any overlap with military cartridges that often blocked civilian adoption back then. This cartridge was a purely for civilians effort. One can make 9.3s out of '06 brass, though one probably shouldn't as the base is slightly smaller in diameter.
That huge extractor on which Mauser became famous, was invented in Serbia, by Serbian engineers in 19th century When Serbia bought first batch of Mauser single bullet bolt action rifles for the army, army had compalins for extraction mailfunction. So Serbian officers/engineers invented (upgraded) extraction, and asked from Mauser for the next deliveries of rifles to be modified. Mauser regonize good idea, so they introduced in all their next rifles (singl of 5 bullets bolt action later) that modification, which became their trade mark.
What do you think about the Swedish Mauser M96 Used they have at Tradex Canada in 30-06 or the Husquevarna 1600s The M96 action is just missing the rear bolt lug correct? Its basically the less perfected M98 Action.
Old video but still one of the few and the good. You don't need to try and make it a magnum. It does everything at a comfortable recoil impulse standard.
The closest American cartridge to this 9.3x62 is the .35 Whelen. Both are pretty potent cartridges with similar ballistics. I too a used Savage 110 and rebarreled it to .35 Whelen, a new laminated Stock, free floated barrel. Bedded action and it shoots sub MOA with green box Remington 250 gr. bullets. The barrel is an Adams and Bennett
Been looking at a m70 in 6.5x55 at the local gunstore, wanting to rebarrel to 8x57/30.06/9.3x62 perhaps, if i go and buy it, but is it the same action used for 9.3x62 as in 6.5x55? Can it handle the upgrade?
Not an expert but 6.5x55 usually use a standard action so it would be fine for a 9.3. Just back from an early season elk hunt nailed a 4x5 at 45 yards. 250 grain Barnes TTSX blew through both shoulders smashed the large shoulder bone on the off side and exited. The 9.3x62 is very underrated in North America.
its close but works just tested on mine. took my rings off but left the bases could see the sight. if had those flip rings were the scope can me fliped to the side it would work. it be really close with see though rings. like real close. quick detach rings be the way to go.
I heard the same thing about those K98 bolts it can take force of some of the hottest calibers and not breakdown, wby mags and and 458 mag, I saw one in 375 h&h
I have seen the stainless version of this rifle, and I like it a lot. I don't agree that the synthetic stock is poor... Well it is certainly "cheap". But they got whatever glop they used in it to come out as surprisingly stiff. Even muscling a sling the foreend preserves the barrel relief. For the intended use as a large game and stopping rifle, the SS is outstanding for the NA environment that is often wet, and uses a different manual of arms than Africa. For Africa, and Zastavas are locally available there, there are a lot of things that are not so great: 1) It needs to see a competent gunsmith to ensure DG levels of smooth feeding; 2) I should really have a heavier barrel taper, it sorta has an 06 light taper with a far larger hole. 19-20mm is not out of the question 3) Needs an upgrade to some real express sights, and a forward mount for an aimpoint would be good. 4) Needs a different placement for the forward sling swivel; 5) Stock could be improved, it is as good as a lot of stock stocks, which is to say bad. 6) A real killer is the lack of a quality safety. Of all of these, the safety is the biggest problem. Personally, I wish all clients came with decocking safeties. The 3 position safety is great also, but probably a bigger training hurdle. Overall the Ruger is probably a better deal at the cheap end. Finally the Zastava in SS is kinda a dirty looking rifle, they flattened the stainless really well, and it kinda looks dirty. I like it a lot, but some might not.
Liban Jatani The company I bought it from Tradex had it listed as Turkish Walnut. But it could be just advertising copy. At least it’s not Chinese Chu wood. 🤪
Have two....one in .243 and one for bigger critters in .270.....have a Borom quick detatach scope mount on both....with one 3-9x40 trijicon accupoint....needless to say nothing gets away......
Great review mate. Does the bolt sleeve have a bolt sleeve lock like the military actions? It looks pretty standard Mauser from the back, but it is obvious that it has a side mounted trigger safety and "bald" bolt sleeve that looks military Mauser but has no provision for the military swing safety. Wonder if it would be easy to retrofit an aftermarket Winchester style bolt sleeve mounted safety?
Weston Eshelman late response, but I did get it, and put a Nikon 3x9x40mm scope on it. You don’t need to remove iron sights with a normal commercial mauser scope mount kit 1 inch. Also, you can’t remove the front sight
@@andyy361 It is possible to remove front sight on that rifle. You just need to spread a sight cover a little bit and then slide it off. After that, there is a small bolt to unscrew in order to take off the rail .Then to tap the sight out off the groove on the barell.
I get sub moa groups with barnes 250 gr ttsx and rl-15 powder out of a Tikka Battue. I love 9.3x62. I plan on getting another rifle in the same caiber, just a little nicer.
So if I'm correct, the purpose of the button on the trigger guard is just so the magazine unhinges and spring/follower fly out? Why the fuck would ANYONE want that?
Hello , i have a remington 798 in 30-06 must say very accurate and reliable rifle,my gunsmith adjusted the trigger down to 3.5 pounds......the only down side i see to this firearm is the weight....if you can handle that, then no issues...they sell a detach scope mount on e-bay for this rifle,it's made in Canada very good quality ...it's a clone of the EAW they go for about $ 200.00 plus shipping but as i said great quality...
Put a Timney in. I shoot. Mark X 98 and it very accurate an totally reliable. Trigger set at 1.5# o problem with drop fire or slam fire. Very good value and tuff as nails
I'm here to comment on your "garage sale treasures" video, on which you had comments disabled. Normally I wouldn't go to such lengths, but in this instance, such lengths are warranted. A girl's grandfather had died, and she was selling his toolbox full of tools at a garage sale. It was a snap on six drawer top chest atop a snap on four drawer bottom chest, and almost every drawer was chock full of tools. While the minority of the tools were snap on, they all appeared to be American-made and in good condition. While the tools could probably have been pieced out over time for considerably more, as a lot, a fair price for the tools and boxes would've been in the $500-$800 range. What was the girl asking? $100. Now there are plenty of guys out there who would've paid her more than her $100 asking price. After all, she just lost her grandfather, obviously had no idea what his tools were worth, and had them grossly undervalued. And there are plenty of others, myself included, who would've just given her her hundred dollars and walked away, feeling that that any transaction in which both buyer and seller were satisfied was a good one. But is that what you did? No. You then bragged about how you negotiated the price down to $40. The fact that you weren't satisfied picking up those tools for less than 20% of their value, AND felt you needed to screw her out of another $60… I found that deplorable. I'm sure you'll delete this comment as soon as you see it, but consider yourself lucky that I don't post my own video about how you took advantage of that poor girl.
There's a marvelous thing out there called Google Search. Anyone at any time can access it and search the value of just about any item. Failure to do so is that person's responsibility. It's called due diligence. Also known as adult responsibility. I offered what cash I had in my pocket, simple as that. She could have just as easily said no.
Try RL17....up to 61 grains of RL17 will give you right at 2500 fps....a little below/above 2500 fps..with the 286 gr bullets. I owned a a 9.3 x 62 and it killed with one shot a elephant, three cape buffalo and some warthogs. Back off 10% on this load AND WORK YOUR WAY SLOWLY UP. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.No pressure signs in the rifle that I owned,
@@hennieoelofse1365 The 2500 fps range is what the .375H&H performs at. No one has ever been able to notice any difference in the killing power of the 9.3 x 63 vs the .375...even though the 9.3 was 150-300 fps slower. The .375 had bullet failure problems due to American increased factory velocities. Still, to this day, there are bullet problems with the .375. Not so the 9.3. Lower velocity gave total dependable performance from the 9.3. Have fun on your hunt. glenn
@@glennrcampbell5431 the .375 also has some bullet stabilization issues at short ranges, which causes tumbling and penetration issue. The performance issues the. 375 had due to higher valocities was more in the early days before premium bullets where invented. This was due to bullets breaking up at higher valocities. Nowadays premium bullets hold up fantastic at 2500fps+. Thanks much appreciated.. 3 months to go!
Yep, the Zastava is a cheap rifle. Even when compared to the venerable CZ 550. Still no comparison to the pre 64 model 70: The TRUE Rifleman's rifle...
I bought the M-85 7.62x39 and was disappointed from the moment I got it. The rifle looked good overall, but as soon as I pulled the bolt back I knew it was junk. My first instinct was to send it back, but I'm a moron. The bolt has a very sloppy fit. Pull it all the back and there is 1/2 to 3/4" play up and down, side to side. I had to to wiggle it so it wouldn't hang up when pushing it forward. It wouldn't eject 75-50% of the shells. Some parts looked like they were finished on a bench grinder. One reviewer wrote "Also the bolt was really hard to pull up after each shot ... Like really really hard ..." Hours of work and paying a gunsmith won't help. Spent hours polishing parts trying to make it work, sent it to a gunsmith. Nothing works. Stay away from the gun and I would say any bolt gun made by Zastava. Traded it for a Yugo SKS and now have a dependable rifle that seems to be as accurate. But, because of what I paid for the M-85, shipping, gun smith, etc; it's the most expensive SKS on earth.
Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a Mauser 98 style rifle!! They will last literally several lifetimes and the caliber can take anything on the planet. After all, that is what it was designed to do!! Great rifle sir!
I have an LKM70 in 8x57 mm Mauser and their mini Mauser in 7.62 x 39 mm and they are just amazing rifles. I own bolt actions from all the best manufacturers and Zastava rifles are every single bit the quality and have the accuracy as any other great rifle maker. They are top shelf rifles at a very fair and affordable price. I'll buy a 3rd when one falls under my eye in the future.
Nice to see a different caliber being shown here on UA-cam. Thanks for sharing your loads and results. Kindly keep us updated on your loads as you develop them.
I'm glad to see yours is a good one. I bought the M70 full stock 9.3x62mm and it turned out to be a bit of a nightmare. Paid $909.95CDN for the rifle brand new, It would not load if there was more than 2 cartridges in the magazine, bolt would ride overtop the rounds. My gunsmith / gun dealer, who sold me the rifle, tried it himself, and it was the same for him. We shipped it back to Zastava's Canadian distributor for repair or replacement. After all, this rifle was brand new and under warranty. Four weeks later I got a call from my gunsmith saying that it was in and that the supplier told him that it was fixed. We took it down to the range, and to our dismay it was exactly the same. My gunsmith called the distributor on the spot and told him that the rifle was going back again, and that it was staying there. It was obvious that the distributor never tested the rifle, even though he was told of the problem when we first returned it.
Needless to say, I was rather upset with the situation, and rather pissed with the customer service received from the national distributor.
So now I am the proud owner of a CZ550 Medium Lux in 9.3x62mm. It runs absolutely flawlessly, though it was quite a bit more expensive.
I'll admit the M70 especially the full stocks are beautiful rifles, and being a 98 Mauser pattern rifle I'm sure that lemons are few and far between. But Zastava's lack of proper warranty service leaves me unwilling to give them another try.
i bought m70 too and had the same problem it simply wont load with more than one round in it.But i fixed it myslef it was steel spring that was not corectly balanced.Action is a litle bit rough but i think its great rifle that can take more punishemnt then any other on market
That is not a real big problem. It is either too weak of a spring, but more likely that the follower of the magazine is too tight against the wall.
Yes finally someone put up a video about this :)
I have 30-06 full stock. Best thing that ever happened to me :)
Where do I get one??? Supposedly... zastava USA still has everything in stock?
I just picked up one of these rifles. it's amazing. im developing a load for the 300grain flat nose.
Just got my own in .270 after a neighbour passed away. I refinished the stock fully. Totally cleaned out the action. New vortex scope. Ready for another 35 years of dropping deer and moose
Also mine is stamped as Interarms from England. Got mine for 350$ with 4 boxes of core lokt
This would be an awesome rifle for hunting in Alaska. That caliber would hammer a bull moose and I'd feel pretty safe knowing it's a controlled round feed in case I encounter an angry grizzly bear.
James Franco My thoughts exactly for the Alberta Rockies.
I bought one in .30-06 in 1984 when they were called "Whitworth Mark X" rifles "American Safari series".
Robert Schmidt I have a couple when they were labeled interarms mark x.
Another good review G42. Ive been looking at the Z M70 in 6.5 swede...been looking for a 6.5 swede CZ550 American for over a year now. Its as close as i can get.
Check out tradeexcanada.com/produits/108. $695 for 6.5x55 in stock.
The CZ is a little bit smoother and polished and has set triggers, nicer wood, but it's what, $1000?
Just bought an Interarms Mark X Continental, with Mannlicher stock, in .270 Winchester. It had sat in the shop for a few months, a very good looking older Zastava from 1977. Zastava does a wonderful job on their commercial rifles, at least the metal work, mine is near flawless. It has a double set trigger, butterknife bolt handle, and came with a Leupold 2-5-8 scope. The stock finish is pretty good, decent skip line checkering, not pre-64 Winchester but not bad.
Zastava's .22 rifles are a great value, the same attention to metal finish, stocks usually need refinishing but that's a good winter project. The triggers are adjustable and can be made to be quite nice. I think they are great value compared to CZ .22s, no plastic or stamped sheet metal, all milled steel and wood.
I spoke to the guys at Tradex several months ago about ordering M70 actions. Turns out buying the whole rifle was the same price. They said what they had in stock was the cheapest they would ever be, due to the Trudollar falling, and a factory price increase. So I took the plunge & bought three, in 6.5, .375, and .458, all left hand. They are real diamonds in the rough. Ordered three position safeties, & will install express sights. The stocks suck, but can be cut down and bondo-ed up to be sent off to be duplicated. Brownell's sells a tool to slick up the bolt slides to as good as a '98 ever gets. These are a huge bang for the buck, and can be turned into something better than rifles costing twice as much.
Wildcat composite stocks from Edmonton make a M98 stock that with some work would be awesome.
Doesn't look like Wildcat does lefties, have you heard anything about MCRS gunstocks from Calgary?
+zazale1 No experience with the Cow town stocks. Back when I worked with D. Henry Gunmakers I converted three Wildcat stocks to left hand. it's a pretty simple fix. Something to ponder.
does it feed ammo smoothly? I want a 6.5. Thank you.
With 58-60 grains of Varget (assuming safe for your rifle) you can get impressive groups and good velocity with 250gr Woodleigh or Barnes TSX projectiles. The triggers on these Zastava's are excellent and lend themselves to be adjusted for creep, weight of pull and back lash. A bargain of a rifle.
interesting to see you guys across the pond dont have a set trigger behind the actual trigger. It makes a world of difference when you are hunting in a blind. You can put the safety on, set the trigger and wait for a deer to cross paths with you. And when you are ready to shoot, you just disangage the safety and tuch the trigger (you really just have to tuch it)
Hey Glockster42 I see you have an Edmonton Oilers hat on in the beginning, I was thinking of buying a rifle in this caliber and was wondering if you know where I can find loaded ammo and reloading components for it in or around Edmonton. Thanks,
Tradex for brass and bullets.
These are good rifles. I like them.
Bought one of these in about 2010 in 6.5 swede. Found it difficut to line up the iron sights; turned out the front sights was installed out of alignment with the back sights and it is loose as there is movement to it when pushing against it.
Have you seen the movie into the wild? I totally agree with the ending phrase, "real happiness is on how many mauser you have in your home"
I have used it for 50 years excellent cartridge
Recently purchased one I found at a gunshop. Its in 7x57, love that caliber. I'm looking to scope it and I had a question: I like to use 30mm sized scopes with rings, will the weaver mounts wheather its the 2 piece setup or a single rail, will it take/fit a 30mm scope ring setup?
They do import them here in the states k-var and century arms brings them in. I am looking to go to Maine for moose hunting and Montana for elk. For large game bear,moose and elk hell even bison it's hard to beat the 9.3x62mm. I am going to look into this round some more. Worst case scenario I could buy a 30-06. M-70 and ending up re-barreling it.
Eggomania86 have you considered rebarreling in 375 ruger
That’s what I did
I own a centurion 123 in 30.06 springfield. Made in pasadena california. Exact same rifle as yours. I checked and doubled checked and they are the same. Must be a good one.
Hey great video. That rifle is beautiful and looks potent as all hell.
I just got a parcel of 8x56r from Tradeex today, they are a great company
Great review. I absolutely love my m70 .22-250 1" groups at 200 yards. I personally zero 1" high at 100 yards and that gives me practically point and shoot out to 300 yards on Charlie fox.
The M70 is a solid hard working rifle.
Interarms - Mark X is what they were originally being sold as, prior to becoming Zastava.
Also, the 9.3x62 is a thumper, as i'm sure you know. If i were gonna shoot it a lot I'd throw a CZ style crossbolt in the stock in the front of the action.
Zastava has a custom shop where one may commission a rifle bespoke. Their stock rifles are built to maximise value for the money. They're not as refined as the Rigbys. The custom built Zastava rifles are stocked to measure, furnished bespoke, and their metal work and finish are world class. Zastava builds sniper rifles chambered in .50 BMG based on its proprietary Mauser M98 action. Their Mauser actions are world class. Their sniper rifles are highly esteemed by operators. Their hunting rifles should be highly esteemed by hunters. The sort of hunter who hunts in Africa can afford rifles from Rigby, Holland & Holland, Purdey, William Evans, Westley Richards etc., but the Zastavas, Winchesters, Sakos, and CZs, are mechanically reliable.
Anyone have this in 270 Winchester. Wondering if you like it.
Also, if the bolt is control feed?
9,3x62 is not a neck up 30 06. it was invented 1905.......
Robert Petersson well 30-03 came out first it was 30-06 but it had a 220gr round nose bullet 30-06 is an updated version
joelopezjl28 Well if the suggestion is one was copied from the other based on chronology, that may be. However, there was a lot more separation between everything back then, so it isn't as though folks in Germany couldn't wait to copy the latest US invention. If anything, the fact it was some other country, or company, or armoury's invention was probably a negative. Not to mention that the purpose for the 9.3 could hardly have been more different. And one of those purposes was to avoid any overlap with military cartridges that often blocked civilian adoption back then. This cartridge was a purely for civilians effort.
One can make 9.3s out of '06 brass, though one probably shouldn't as the base is slightly smaller in diameter.
Robert Petersson But you can use the ‘06 case to make a 9.3 x 62 as Finn Aagaard showed in one if his articles.
That huge extractor on which Mauser became famous, was invented in Serbia, by Serbian engineers in 19th century
When Serbia bought first batch of Mauser single bullet bolt action rifles for the army, army had compalins for extraction mailfunction. So Serbian officers/engineers invented (upgraded) extraction, and asked from Mauser for the next deliveries of rifles to be modified. Mauser regonize good idea, so they introduced in all their next rifles (singl of 5 bullets bolt action later) that modification, which became their trade mark.
I am thinking of buying one, as per recommendation from a friend. A cheaper, but more or less equal quality alternative to your German mausers.
How’s it compared to the CZ550 or the Ruger m77/Hawkeye? I have a few 550s and have owned a few Rugers over the years.
What do you think about the Swedish Mauser M96 Used they have at Tradex Canada in 30-06 or the Husquevarna 1600s The M96 action is just missing the rear bolt lug correct? Its basically the less perfected M98 Action.
M96 also cocks the striker on closing the bolt. similar to the Lee-Enfield rifles.
Can the sights be remove and plugged?
Old video but still one of the few and the good. You don't need to try and make it a magnum. It does everything at a comfortable recoil impulse standard.
The closest American cartridge to this 9.3x62 is the .35 Whelen. Both are pretty potent cartridges with similar ballistics. I too a used Savage 110 and rebarreled it to .35 Whelen, a new laminated Stock, free floated barrel. Bedded action and it shoots sub MOA with green box Remington 250 gr. bullets. The barrel is an Adams and Bennett
Do you know what kind of scope mounts you have on there? thanks
Been looking at a m70 in 6.5x55 at the local gunstore, wanting to rebarrel to 8x57/30.06/9.3x62 perhaps, if i go and buy it, but is it the same action used for 9.3x62 as in 6.5x55? Can it handle the upgrade?
Not an expert but 6.5x55 usually use a standard action so it would be fine for a 9.3. Just back from an early season elk hunt nailed a 4x5 at 45 yards. 250 grain Barnes TTSX blew through both shoulders smashed the large shoulder bone on the off side and exited. The 9.3x62 is very underrated in North America.
Are the iron sights high enough to see over the scope mount bases if a person had quick detach rings, or do they only work on a bare receiver?
its close but works just tested on mine. took my rings off but left the bases could see the sight. if had those flip rings were the scope can me fliped to the side it would work. it be really close with see though rings. like real close. quick detach rings be the way to go.
Взял заставу м 70 в 308 win. Карабин вообще огонь. Расстояние 100 и 200 метров а то и больше по падению пули не чувствует. Карабином рад очень.
I heard the same thing about those K98 bolts it can take force of some of the hottest calibers and not breakdown, wby mags
and and 458 mag, I saw one in 375 h&h
What type of scope rail/mount did you use for your Zastava? I am trying to find the correct one(s).
same as yugo or mark x
How's the recoil pad? I sort of want one in .375 H&H, maybe .458 Win Mag.
Hard as hell. A Limbsaver pad would be a huge upgrade.
+Glockster42 I thought you'd say that. thanks
Elwood Epps has a great selection of these.
Hello. How tall are your scope rings?
Medium
I have seen the stainless version of this rifle, and I like it a lot. I don't agree that the synthetic stock is poor... Well it is certainly "cheap". But they got whatever glop they used in it to come out as surprisingly stiff. Even muscling a sling the foreend preserves the barrel relief. For the intended use as a large game and stopping rifle, the SS is outstanding for the NA environment that is often wet, and uses a different manual of arms than Africa.
For Africa, and Zastavas are locally available there, there are a lot of things that are not so great:
1) It needs to see a competent gunsmith to ensure DG levels of smooth feeding;
2) I should really have a heavier barrel taper, it sorta has an 06 light taper with a far larger hole. 19-20mm is not out of the question
3) Needs an upgrade to some real express sights, and a forward mount for an aimpoint would be good.
4) Needs a different placement for the forward sling swivel;
5) Stock could be improved, it is as good as a lot of stock stocks, which is to say bad.
6) A real killer is the lack of a quality safety.
Of all of these, the safety is the biggest problem. Personally, I wish all clients came with decocking safeties. The 3 position safety is great also, but probably a bigger training hurdle.
Overall the Ruger is probably a better deal at the cheap end.
Finally the Zastava in SS is kinda a dirty looking rifle, they flattened the stainless really well, and it kinda looks dirty. I like it a lot, but some might not.
Sont think you can use 30 06 vrass to reload the 9.3 is a little larger diameter a really good caliber
how is your fnar coming along, and have you seen the t-97 flattop?
Sold the FNAR. Too heavy for a 5 shot .308. And yes I love the flat top, except for the price. T97 vs Tavor coming up this weekend.
hey just curious, where have you seen them list them as turkish walnut, Cheers!
Liban Jatani The company I bought it from Tradex had it listed as Turkish Walnut. But it could be just advertising copy. At least it’s not Chinese Chu wood. 🤪
where do you stock your 9.3x62 ammo from in canada?
On line from Trade Ex and surprisingly from my local Canadian Tire.
Have two....one in .243 and one for bigger critters in .270.....have a Borom quick detatach scope mount on both....with one 3-9x40 trijicon accupoint....needless to say nothing gets away......
Where'd you pick-up yours from?
where can you purchase this rifle? Looks like a great rifle.
I purchased this from Tradex.
See you reply to Heavyhitter below for website.
Great review mate.
Does the bolt sleeve have a bolt sleeve lock like the military actions? It looks pretty standard Mauser from the back, but it is obvious that it has a side mounted trigger safety and "bald" bolt sleeve that looks military Mauser but has no provision for the military swing safety. Wonder if it would be easy to retrofit an aftermarket Winchester style bolt sleeve mounted safety?
where did u buy it?
Are you sure it's a walnut stock? Seems too light in a video
Andrey Voitishin It’s advertised as such other than that...
Found one for 370 shipping included chambered in .270 win. Gonna pull the lever and try it out as my first bolt gun.
Did you get it? I am also looking at one in .270 win. Can the iron sights be removed for scope mounting?
Weston Eshelman late response, but I did get it, and put a Nikon 3x9x40mm scope on it. You don’t need to remove iron sights with a normal commercial mauser scope mount kit 1 inch. Also, you can’t remove the front sight
@@andyy361 It is possible to remove front sight on that rifle. You just need to spread a sight cover a little bit and then slide it off. After that, there is a small bolt to unscrew in order to take off the rail
.Then to tap the sight out off the groove on the barell.
Very nice rifle you got there, I would add a little tung oil to bring out some gloss.
Thanks for watching. Yes the stock does need some extra TLC.
Nice looking rifle.
I looked at their M85 7.62x39 version of this but was scared off by reviews indicating poor reliability.
Hey Nick. Not sure about the M85 but the M70 is very nice. 60 rounds downrange and no problems.
My M85 in 7.62x39 has been flawless. I've only fired brass through it. Read negative reviews and wondered myself. Accurate and dependable.
how much do they go for
I get sub moa groups with barnes 250 gr ttsx and rl-15 powder out of a Tikka Battue. I love 9.3x62. I plan on getting another rifle in the same caiber, just a little nicer.
How is the recoil?for 9.3*62
Muzzle velocity?
@@陶思成-n6z , recoil is similar to a heavy 30-06 load, but without the sharp jolt.
@@calynutzu93, approx, 2500fps.
Man u gotta crank that load up u should be able to do 2600 fps with 260 grain bullets
So if I'm correct, the purpose of the button on the trigger guard is just so the magazine unhinges and spring/follower fly out? Why the fuck would ANYONE want that?
To unload the cartridges quickly. That's pretty standard.
I ordered mine yesterday for $360
Where did you order it?
In Serbia you can find them for 200-250 $ :D Factory new of course
You can probably find a Bofors for around 550 as well.
buy all you can my friend, and then sell the kidney you use less and buy more
Good call!!
is it aveleble in the USA?
Glockster42 nice Monty python reference there I can dig it!!!
Hello , i have a remington 798 in 30-06 must say very accurate and reliable rifle,my gunsmith adjusted the trigger down to 3.5 pounds......the only down side i see to this firearm is the weight....if you can handle that, then no issues...they sell a detach scope mount on e-bay for this rifle,it's made in Canada very good quality ...it's a clone of the EAW they go for about $ 200.00 plus shipping but as i said great quality...
1:38 Best gun review on UA-cam. Bar none. "Weak Ejaculation"
got same rifle with syn stock in 300 win mag bought in canada about 10 years ago 550 $ where i bought mine tradex
Put a Timney in. I shoot. Mark X 98 and it very accurate an totally reliable. Trigger set at 1.5# o problem with drop fire or slam fire. Very good value and tuff as nails
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The most used basic action for custom gunsmiths.Middle Europe s top makers have copied this for decades . So it is Good gun....
That 9.3 x62 would be a damn good moose cartridge but way too much for whitetail
I'm here to comment on your "garage sale treasures" video, on which you had comments disabled. Normally I wouldn't go to such lengths, but in this instance, such lengths are warranted. A girl's grandfather had died, and she was selling his toolbox full of tools at a garage sale. It was a snap on six drawer top chest atop a snap on four drawer bottom chest, and almost every drawer was chock full of tools. While the minority of the tools were snap on, they all appeared to be American-made and in good condition. While the tools could probably have been pieced out over time for considerably more, as a lot, a fair price for the tools and boxes would've been in the $500-$800 range. What was the girl asking? $100. Now there are plenty of guys out there who would've paid her more than her $100 asking price. After all, she just lost her grandfather, obviously had no idea what his tools were worth, and had them grossly undervalued. And there are plenty of others, myself included, who would've just given her her hundred dollars and walked away, feeling that that any transaction in which both buyer and seller were satisfied was a good one. But is that what you did? No. You then bragged about how you negotiated the price down to $40. The fact that you weren't satisfied picking up those tools for less than 20% of their value, AND felt you needed to screw her out of another $60… I found that deplorable. I'm sure you'll delete this comment as soon as you see it, but consider yourself lucky that I don't post my own video about how you took advantage of that poor girl.
There's a marvelous thing out there called Google Search. Anyone at any time can access it and search the value of just about any item. Failure to do so is that person's responsibility. It's called due diligence. Also known as adult responsibility. I offered what cash I had in my pocket, simple as that. She could have just as easily said no.
Poor girl? She was a 50 year old woman with a Range Rover and Mercedes parked in front of a million dollar house...
I want one
Got this for 250 new from a guy who won it in a NRA auction.
Zastava, means Flag!
Try RL17....up to 61 grains of RL17 will give you right at 2500 fps....a little below/above 2500 fps..with the 286 gr bullets. I owned a a 9.3 x 62 and it killed with one shot a elephant, three cape buffalo and some warthogs. Back off 10% on this load AND WORK YOUR WAY SLOWLY UP. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.No pressure signs in the rifle that I owned,
My load is 64gr RL-17 for 286gr A-Frame's. 2539fps. Using it for Cape buff hunt next year June.
@@hennieoelofse1365 The 2500 fps range is what the .375H&H performs at. No one has ever been able to notice any difference in the killing power of the 9.3 x 63 vs the .375...even though the 9.3 was 150-300 fps slower. The .375 had bullet failure problems due to American increased factory velocities. Still, to this day, there are bullet problems with the .375. Not so the 9.3. Lower velocity gave total dependable performance from the 9.3. Have fun on your hunt. glenn
@@glennrcampbell5431 the .375 also has some bullet stabilization issues at short ranges, which causes tumbling and penetration issue. The performance issues the. 375 had due to higher valocities was more in the early days before premium bullets where invented. This was due to bullets breaking up at higher valocities. Nowadays premium bullets hold up fantastic at 2500fps+. Thanks much appreciated.. 3 months to go!
CFE 223 will get you to 2500 FPS with 286 grain slugs too. Just another option to try.
Pre 64 win M70 is the best.
Show me a Pre 64 Winchester for $695....
They are out there if you keep your eyes out. I know someone who just bought one off of armslist for 450. I got mine for free lol.
Yep, the Zastava is a cheap rifle. Even when compared to the venerable CZ 550. Still no comparison to the pre 64 model 70: The TRUE Rifleman's rifle...
@@ScaleModelAlbertaI bought 2 last year! One for $400. And one almost like new for $800. So they are out there just keep looking
Serbian gun
heavyhitter
All's I can say is you get what you pay for.
Euro equivalent of American 35 Whelen>
Weak “ejection” and it “comes out as hard” as you pull. 🤣
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9.3x62 is not funky at all.
I bought the M-85 7.62x39 and was disappointed from the moment I got it. The rifle looked good overall, but as soon as I pulled the bolt back I knew it was junk. My first instinct was to send it back, but I'm a moron.
The bolt has a very sloppy fit. Pull it all the back and there is 1/2 to 3/4" play up and down, side to side. I had to to wiggle it so it wouldn't hang up when pushing it forward. It wouldn't eject 75-50% of the shells. Some parts looked like they were finished on a bench grinder.
One reviewer wrote "Also the bolt was really hard to pull up after each shot ... Like really really hard ..." Hours of work and paying a gunsmith won't help.
Spent hours polishing parts trying to make it work, sent it to a gunsmith. Nothing works. Stay away from the gun and I would say any bolt gun made by Zastava. Traded it for a Yugo SKS and now have a dependable rifle that seems to be as accurate. But, because of what I paid for the M-85, shipping, gun smith, etc; it's the most expensive SKS on earth.