And Ridley Scott is back with Prometheus! Some amazing shots and cinematography with some cool effects made for a fairly enjoyable movie! Thanks for watching! Have a great day! :)
For the record Alien is not Ridley Scott's brain child. Ridely was only the director, he did not produce or write that masterpiece of sci fic horror. He also didn't write this or Covenant either, he choose a guy who gave us the Lost finale for this one. For Covenant he choose the guy who wrote the worst of the TNG films. Trust me, it shows. Just like to clear up that it's wrong for everyone to give Scott kudos for Alien when he did nothing but direct, and direct it well i will give him that, but he was NOT the creator of that series.
Alien Covenant is the successor of Prometheus. I'm still waiting for part 3. By the way, since flat earth is briefly mentioned, I don't believe in it either. I've listened to BOTH sides and flat makes no sense to me. The sun could then not set or rise either, e.g. with measured sun positions at the same time in different places, the constellations also do not match or the far north, where the sun never sets or never rises completely for a long time. In exchange. BUT otherwise NASA ect lies to us, too many things and not only that. The media lies to us 24 Hours a Day, like the politicians. In West and East. I just want to link some of the space lies, but mostly in German (please activate YT subtitles, for other languages) or mixed languages. Sometimes pictures speak for themselves. Nasa ISS fake Aufnahmen | Entgültiger Beweis | Klare Fakten | Riesen Betrug ua-cam.com/video/Q2lxk19vbs8/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/nIshLcNttew/v-deo.html Best of - NASA Betrug / Fraud #1 ua-cam.com/video/6tsU7yWVep0/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/2Vp2vEMDJHU/v-deo.html Best of NASA Betrug / Fraud #2 ua-cam.com/video/Vnvb3oEH0wA/v-deo.html alternativ: ua-cam.com/video/ct_N7FBcScE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/b1d85amL1iA/v-deo.html Ich bin KEIN Flat-Earther Chinese Space Lab is FAKE like NASA ✞ ua-cam.com/video/m5VPxXMvSPI/v-deo.html Tagesschau 03.01.2019 chinesiche Mondlandung + weitere Mondlandungsbeiträge ua-cam.com/video/9McZMaR-Jg8/v-deo.html Sie wollen nicht dass du dies siehst! ua-cam.com/video/tbP-7PiA3l4/v-deo.html The ISS Exposed ua-cam.com/video/DdAg-3GF8rg/v-deo.html Ab Minute 30,30: Star City Moskau Juri Gagarin - Legende oder Lüge? ua-cam.com/video/--gfZZQ5vOk/v-deo.html Und wer hat's gefilmt? 😂 ua-cam.com/video/xIDJETX1tn4/v-deo.html Ison Willis Die Apollo 11 Mondlandung - Wer hat die Kamera gehalten ua-cam.com/video/zbUf07ovstA/v-deo.html Werden wir an der NASA herumgeführt? - Wenn tote Astronauten auferstehen | 15.07.2016 | kla.tv/8628 ua-cam.com/video/VqjxXlvIBRw/v-deo.html Am 28. Januar 1986 stand die ganze Welt unter Schock, es war der Tag einer großen NASA-Katastrophe. ✓ www.kla.tv/8628 73 Sekunden nach dem Start zerbarst das Space Shuttle Challenger 23 in einer gewaltigen Explosion. Alle sieben Besatzungsmitglieder wurden getötet. Heute kommt der Welt Atem in dieser Sache zum zweiten Mal zum Stocken: Mindestens sechs der sieben Challenger-Besatzungsmitglieder sollen noch am Leben sein; vier von ihnen sogar unter gleichem Namen. Werden wir an der NASA herumgeführt? Exklusiv: Kla.TV präsentiert Ihnen in dieser Kurzdokumentation die zu prüfenden Argumente. Unfassbar! „Hubble“ Betriebsleiter hat in 25 Jahren nie das Teleskop live gesehen ua-cam.com/video/qZedo4KZpZU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/7-5mJV72cPM/v-deo.html Reupload: Die Mond(f)lüge - ein Film von Gerhard Wisnewski ua-cam.com/video/QfufobysCIg/v-deo.html Die Mond(f)lüge - Warum Menschen niemals auf dem Mond waren ua-cam.com/video/PN3qKD_P4jA/v-deo.html Die NASA Mond und Marslandungsschwindel / "The NASA Moon and Mars Landing Hoaxes" www.wakenews.tv/watch.php?vid=8b12168ca ua-cam.com/video/O-tog9vNd8k/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/wN12x4T_yDc/v-deo.html Die Lügen der NASA ua-cam.com/video/ApfUVN-P_LE/v-deo.html TrauKeinemPromi
Before ALIEN, artist H.R. Giger designed DUNE, to be directed by Alexander Jodorowsky. The film never happened, but some of Giger's art for that film was used in Prometheus. Including Baron Harkoneens castle. Also, Prometheus was filmed in 3D and released that way theatrically and on disc. If you ever watch it again, try and see it that way. Makes it even better.
Theres and edit of the movie called the chaos edition, adds back in a lot of the cut engineer content. Sadly, they got cold feet with the creation story and cut the movie to be more like a generic monster horror. Then we got covenant. 🤢
The rock, saving her, symbolizes her faith & belief. Hence the lone rock. The worms were an organic alarm to the sanctuary, which when stepped on, ultimately triggered the storm as a defense to intrusion
But does it **deserve** to **be** loved? 🤷♂ It feels like a poor answer in search of a question that never really needed to be asked... It also ignores about 30 years of book / comic book lore to try to give a back-story / origin story that nobody ever really asked to be rewritten.
Actually, this planet (LV-223) and the planet on Alien/Aliens (LV-426 or Acheron) are both moons of the same gas giant (Calpamos in the Zeta Reticuli system).
How the man who brought the drones (pups) to map the damn alien ship/structure, got lost, is beyond me-And how Dr. Holloway was dumb enough to take off his mask in an uncharted untested atmosphere is beyond me. And why wasn’t he quarantined? Why did everyone else follow his example?
In answer to your question at the start of your review, this is not LV426, it's a different planetoid in the same system - the ship the crew found in ALIEN was a different ship.
The engineers were pretty badass, dudes spent a lot of time in the gym to get ripped like that. Some people didn't like this movie because it didn't feature the Aliens but I personally really liked it, it may not be as scary as Alien but it's interesting.
I like that this film takes place in the same universe,while not being an Alien film. It has serious problems,but it's way better than the utter trash hollywood puts out now.
I hated the engineers so much, specially cause I loved how mysterious and really out of this world was felt that giant alien in the first movie. Those f+++ing engineers were the best they could come up with?. To make matters worse, I found the whole story around them uninspired.
@@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 That doesn't matter so much to me, movies have always had ideologies behind them and I'm old enough to have developed my own criteria. But at least they should be well told and well made or at least interesting films.
You're assuming that he was the only living engineer. He was the only one they encountered and woke up on screen, but there were other ships that we didn't see. We only saw a small fraction of the entire installation. Also, it seems there could be another world from which they came. Finally, the derelict ship from Alien was found on an entirely different planet.
On your continuity question, while the donut ship is the same model as the first movie, there's no reason to believe that is the same ship and same engineer. There's another prequel.
I liked the movie but there were definitely some plot holes in there that didn't make sense. Eg: A bunch of scientists/highly skilled professionals go to an alien planet and first thing they do was remove their helmets without any quarantine/containment procedures or air/soil/water sample analysis. And a high tech med pod only for male patients? How does that even make sense on a small space ship where every inch is premium and needs to be highly space-efficient, or even simply from a product design perspective. But I do think that the xenomorphs stemmed from bioengineering, rather than organically evolved. Because if a species can evolve such defense/offense mechanisms, one has to wonder about the world they originated from and what other predators were there that caused them to evolve such mechanisms.
This film was such a relief after fifteen years of silly commercial nonsense from the Alien film franchise. I may still feel a greater affinity for Alien 3 than for Prometheus, but this film was still a welcome return to form courtesy of the person who originated the series.
This movie suffers from a common problem in modern sci-fi productions: characters that are too stupid to live. Bad writing requires the characters to make stupid decisions to achieve dramatic effect. In the original movie, the cast were basically space truckers on a warn out freighter and their decisions were natural and believable. They weren't explorers or specialists. In this movie, the crew of this critical, well-financed exploration ship are literally morons. I saw this movie in theatres on release and there was so much hype for it and hope that it would re-boot the franchise after so many shitty adaptations. It was one of the biggest disappointments in cinema.
Scott's overall plan was to create this and Covenant then I think two more movies to completely connect to the first Alien. He was able to do the first two and there's some pretty cool and interesting "short" films that are part of the story that are available online. But the other two have been on and off as to if they'll be made. I read that there's also some more "action packed - horror - shoot-em-up" Alien movies that are in the works that are supposed to be released in place of the prequel ideas. If that''s the case it would be a shame because I'd love to get a good full backstory. Short version: a lot of what you just saw is a setup for what's to come :)
There were plans to continue it, covenant was the 1st out of 3 films what would tie into the original alien film, ever since Disneys purchase of Fox it's been sadly on and off
I for one do not want a shoot-em-up Alien film. Even Aliens manages to be a little more than that, since the shooting generally accomplishes very little in that film.
I'm so glad you're watching this movie so many people gave it crap and honestly for me this is the first alien movie I liked I didn't mind any of the alien movies but this is the first one I loved I should say not liked I liked all the other ones but I loved this movie I didn't even know it was an alien movie until the very end in which case made me want to go back and rewatch all the old Alien movies this is the movie for me that got me into aliens I feel like people don't appreciate that enough this movie is what got me into aliens like it's good it's not the same as all the other ones but it's still fun to watch it's so interesting to see it all to me I I love the visuals it's just one of the best ones and I really like the sequel that comes after it hope you like it too
It is a completely different planet so a completely different engineer. Prometheus really doesn't connect back to Alien. It started as a prequel but Ridley Scott changed his mind and made a sort of parallel story focusing on creationism instead hence the confusion and dislike of the so-called prequels.
If you really search there is a script out there i read which the Engineers were first discussing their eventual demise due to their inability to procreate, and 1 stayed behind to sacrifice himself for us to inherit their image/hopes and evolve beyond. But humanity disappointed them time and time again so we were scheduled for destruction, but something went wrong. When the Engineer wakes up and sees a human begging for immortality (something even they cannot accomplish) he is disgusted and kills everyone and resumes the mission of human destruction. Again we are not worthy and missed the whole lesson of mortality and evolution.
Same. I was just a very very casual alien fan before this movie. I only thought it was cool/ok but I liked predator much more. This movie made me want to look into the alien franchise more
Saw it in the theater, a couple came in with their 7ish year old daughter? I'm talking young. The self alien abortion scene. I was watching this little kid grab her father's arm. 🤣 They scared this little girl for life!!!
For some inexplicable reason, many key scenes were cut from this movie or poor alternate takes used. A much, much better movie was left on the cutting room floor. Everything cut is fully complete including the first guy infected morphing into a much better creature and attacking.
This is a movie with amazing visuals but with so many characters doing stupid things and making dumb decisions and also weird plot holes (the geologist who MAPPED the alien complex getting lost in it and the ship captain who can see their location via a holographic map couldn't guide them out and treated like it's one big joke) that I found it extremely difficult to maintain the suspension of disbelief. But the sequence of Shaw removing that squid thing from her abdomen was absolutely JAW DROPPING. As for the finale, I always get the impression the engineers created humans just so they can be eventual breeding stock for the xenomorphs.
Ha thats right, he mapped the dam thing and got lost in it? WTF? Every planet has a magnetic north and even if there are magnetic storms, just use markers in the dirt? JHC
Not every planet has a magnetic north, only ones with a dynamic core. However, it's clear that this particular planet does, otherwise there wouldn't be plants and life.
@@THEvagabond29 The computer mapped automatically. He didn’t do it himself personally. If he doesn’t have a screen open he would be blind as anyone else.
This film and *especially* Covenant seem to make the characters stupid for thematic reasons. You can almost sympathize with David, who has to act docile and subservient to these mere mortals who are clearly too dumb to live. (But then again, do we really want to root for the murderous android over the humans?)
Btw; This film is prequel to Alien and aliens etc. Also sadly Ridley scott will not acknowledge the Aliens film and what happened in it . especially the queen. sadly. (back in the day Ridley was asked to make aliens 2 but he was already making blade runner and he was also asked to direct dune who would be directed by david lynch) i don't think ridley liked cameron's style but the fans did. both alien and aliens i feel r great films. there is a fun split to see in fans when you ask people which they prefer. (usually the older generation like alien and the kids born in 80's prefer 2)
Yeah, well, Aliens is pretty much one of the greatest films ever made (and my favorite movie of all time), so I'mma pretty much ignore Ridley's feelings on the matter, if he doesn't like it.
This movie took place on a completely different planet. So this is a different planet (lv-227?) different ship, different set of characters even if they are the same race The engineers kept messing with the bio weapon. One of the, I guess, common side effects of the infection resulted in the facehugger alien combo. So this is the aftermath of a containment breach. Ditto the original alien movie, containment breach on lv426 with a similar ship and engineer. So it's not a direct prequel, just linked by the bio weapon that causes the xenomorph.
Prometheus was a mess, a lot of buildup, questions, plotlines that all go nowhere. It has all the markings of a story written by Damon Lindelof, who also co-created and wrote Lost. If you haven't seen it yet, this is hilarious: ua-cam.com/video/-x1YuvUQFJ0/v-deo.html And this followup: ua-cam.com/video/avXZVgzLP68/v-deo.html
Android David is acting like the character from his favourite film, “Lawrence of Arabia.” Watching LOA after watching Prometheus sheds a different light on David, and Lawrence both, you could say..? Doing some research, I found Ridley Scott had originally planned to do a LOA remake, but plans fell thru and Prometheus happened instead! But Lawrence references remain! 🐪
I saw this in the theater, I liked it. It's my 4th favorite. I was hoping/expecting/wanting to see Xeno's, but when they didn't happen, I was a little disappointed, yet I was happy it was different and refreshing for not being predictable. "Covenant" is my 3rd favorite, if not "Aliens vs Predator". My favorite part of this film is David. That abortion was the scariest part.
Yes but this movie is the set up for the second movie. I actually do like this movie very much when you watch the two in succession. This movie will feel much more connected after watching the second part. The Engineer that you see in the movie Alien is not the same one you see in this movie. This might be the only Engineer on this planet that is alive, but they even said this wasn't their planet but basically a Lab to create their bio weapon. The other Engineer in Alien is simply a different one in a different ship that was likely transporting the bio weapon when it got loose.
But, at the time of Prometheus, it was just "black goo" or a bioweapon, it wasn't a "xenomorph," so how / why would an engineer be carrying a ship with final-form xenomorph eggs, as opposed to just the "black goo." Like, somehow the engineer(s) would have to find out about the finalized/stabilized xenomorph variant, and then get a hold of **that** in order to transport it [as opposed to the "black goo"] and then crash. To me, it seems like there are just too many logical leaps in all this for this origin story to make any sense with the start of Alien. Unless more moviesget made that connect the dots in some plausible non-contrived way that actually makes sense to bridge the gap to the original movie.
@Michael Gmirkin No i don't think they are carrying eggs...I would hypothesize that they were carrying the bio weapon and it got loose and infected members of the crew much like in Prometheus... leading to the creation of a Zenomorph Queen which killed the entire crew and then layed the eggs after, awaiting more victims for hosts.
What really bothered me about this movie is how many stupid decisions the character take at every turn...but then I saw Covenant, OH BOY. Now I kinda respect Prometheus 🤣
Dallas alone in vents & old man searches for cat all alone... yeah those were smart moves. Lol just sayin.. they all have dumb characters usually. Especially 3 & 4
@@torpedoboy4 Ripley gets in escape pod & take pants off, face hugger victim walks directly over giant egg with visual movements. Burke's character makes lots of stupid decisions Lol scientists testing on aliens in 4. Not smart
No you are correct and the alien had a hole in his chest where the alien burst out. I would say that this is not lv426 the planet from alien. If they had made a 3rd movie maybe it would end up there.
The xenomorphs are the perfect biological weapon, gradually honed over generations by the Engineers. If the Engineers decide that all life on a planet should be destroyed, then they drop a couple xenomorph eggs on the planet and every living creature on the planet is doomed.
So much potential... wasted. As for "Alien" being Ridley Scott's brainchild: Let's not forget Dan O'Bannon. Without him, there would be no Alien, no Xenomorph.
Ohh, we gave it a chance, we just didn't like it, overall... 'Cause it felt contrived and tried a bit too hard at "explaining" the xenomorphs' origin, in a way that barely makes any sense. And, frankly, when you over-explain something, it becomes less scary. When you know too much about it, it just becomes kind of ho-hum. Part of the terror of xenomorphs is not knowing what they are, where they're from. They're simply a terrifying unknown unknowable force of nature removes from "what we know" about the universe. Acid for blood? How can that be? Mouths within mouths? How? Surviving in the vacuum of space? Whaa?? Trying to take us step-by-step through their "evolution" from black goo, to infected eel thing, to weird squid thing, to proto-alien ... just kinda' takes the mystery out of it. Even as it also barely makes any sense at all...
There are moments in this movie that I love and others that I hate a lot. It´s almost 50/50 I think. It doesn´t flow as a whole for me. But I have watched it several times, so I must like it. From Covenant I just like to rewatch the flute scene when I need to cheer up and laugh.
I wanted to see this so badly when it first came out, but my gf at the time had no interest and we saw Snow White and the Huntsman just b/c of the actress scandal. Our relationship ended quickly.
I had the same problem with the pilot chair callback to Alien not syncing up and it actually took internet digging to find out it’s not the same Engineer or planet or horseshoe ship which is actually super aggravating. They are even supposed to be thousands of years separated in which case - change the design! If you are going to go that far out of your way to fan service and then deviate it’s just super wonky. I also don’t like the tired old space humanoid seeding the Galaxy trope - it’s a little too easy and narcissistic and (dare I say) religious of a universe explaining device. The reason Alien is so scary is because of how humongous and dark space is (in space no one can hear you scream) - this movie tries to explain and define to the extent that it basically castrates the xenomorph into a factory lapdog which is not really a great addition to the arching story. They strive to make outer space smaller and more defined. No thanks.
Couldn't agree more! When this film was announced, long before it even got the name Prometheus, they PROMISED us that this film was meant to be THE prequel to Alien & we "would get ALL the answers!" Yeah, right! The marketing for the film kept up this lie. I had already bought my ticket when they finally announced that this is not a direct prequel but actually a side-story happening before Alien in the same "universe." Uhm... then why all the promises & direct Alien nostalgia references in the marketing? They wanted us on the hook first, buying the tickets, then telling the truth. That is not how you create a lasting classic. Prometheus does have its following, but just as much those - like me - that not only got highly disappointed because they promised us a direct prequel with answers & there were none. And why, oh why all these stupid characters that absolutely do not behave accordingly to their trade their claim to have. Sure, ever since the first Alien we have had stupid characters but this stupid? Prometheus claims to be a horror movie. Where is the horror? When you wish for the stupid characters to die there is no horror, horror only exists if you care for the character's survival. Then there's the "abortion scene" with Shaw taking out her alien squid baby. Those that love this film praise it, & that scene by itself is interesting besides the fact that there's no way she had stayed awake to do all that & also run away afterwards no matter how much painkiller she injects, the human body can only take so much drugs before you pass out or overdose. But my real problem is that she produced this dangerous alien, right? And NO ONE else, besides David, even ever gets to know of its existence! Which makes that alien almost totally irrelevant. OK, it kills the Engineer, who cares? Imagine the first Alien & the chest burster pops out of Kane but no one is there to witness it & no one ever runs into the Xeno once it has grown up! Gee, what a fun horror story, people = nothing happens & the alien is meaningless. Guess what, that is exactly what happens in Prometheus! They tried to do the same thing again but left out all the horror & plot-driven meaning. Why does this story even exist? Prometheus is a film that is just a pretty surface & contains nothing. It gives nothing of value to the franchise it belongs to, or rather lied itself into. Instead of providing any answer at all it just gave more questions that we, of course, will never get answered since Covenant conveniently avoids doing its job as a story as well. By 2012 the Alien franchise had been around long enough for us to start looking at the origin & meaning of it all. We knew what the Xeno was by then, how it looked like & could do etc. That mystery was already then emptied & it was hard to go forward with new ideas. That was why I was so much looking forward to an origin story. I had watched characters I both love & dislike depending on Alien film die in so many movies, including the AVPs. I was ready to learn of the origin & why all these characters had to die & endure these creatures. They promised us to do precisely that & they got the original director to do the job. Well... Ridley was allowed to play Blade Runner in Alien & wonder about religion & the origin of humanity instead of the Xenomorph. He was permitted to leave the trail. I guess all the mistakes of Alien 3 was totally forgotten, even if the fan base had not. Some still fell for Prometheus. And if this had been an actual original story & movie, not trying or claiming to be part of the Alien franchise or any other sci-fi horror thing then this had been easier to swallow. Nothing excuses the idiotic morons that are the "characters" of this film, though, but still. But they from day 1 tried to sell this as a direct prequel to Alien & nothing less. They had a script that was tying into the first film but they skipped that & brought in Linderloff out of all hacks to give us this. If they had been honest from the start then Prometheus might have been more financial successful. It had reminded of Alien but not been considered Alien canon, far less disappointed Alien fans. I think even more Alien fans had been OK to this as an alternative sci-fi. But this is what happens when you lie to your audience & don't have proper plans & goals & stick to them all the way. Know what you wanna say. Or don't say anything at all.
Michael Fassbender is just superb in everything Film was fine but I think the one huge fk up was to give the aliens a backstory I would preferred this to be a mystery the fact humans made them sucks
31:42 “How did that one rock stop the ship.” And that my friend one the final straw of all the outlandish things that happened in this movie and the moment my mind checked out from this movie. I have tried a couple of times to rewatch it after seeing it in the theater and I can’t do it. This was a really bad movie. So much potential but the ball was dropped.
2 Words: Revisionist History. To me, this is 100 million dollar fan fiction, despite Scotts directing. The Dark Horse "Alien" comics had better "backstories" than this "ancient Aliens" BS.
Yes, Prometheus & Alien: Covenant are prequels that try poorly to explain the origin of the xenomorphs and rewrite the origin story ignoring about 20-30 years of books, comics, etc.
So, yeah, **that** engineer is definitely dead, and this is a different planet from the one the ship is found on in the original Alien / Aliens. Different planetary designation (LV-426 was the original planet from Alien/Aliens, this was somewhere else). So, clearly, the "engineer" in Alien was a different "engineer" from the one in Prometheus. Covenant happens later after Prometheus (direct continuation). Won't say what all happen there. In theory, there were maybe going to be a few more movies by Ridley Scott to "bridge the gap" to the original Alien. Whether or not they'll ever happen, who knows? Given the middling / off-put reception of the first 2 prequels. On the one hand, I kind of hope they eventually get made, just so we have the complete story, if there's one in mind, and Ridley wasn't just completely winging the first two movies with no real final direction or endpoint in mind. On the other hand, I feel like it's a kind of a poor attempt to explain the xenomorph origin story and kind of "rewrite" it as that they weren't actually their own species but some kind of adaptive / evolutionary bio-weapon or bio-experiment gone awry that was then somehow kind of "stabilized" into whatever the xenomorphs became. Which, IMO, kinda' undermines the original movies a bit... So, I dunno... The whole prequel feels a bit forced / contrived somehow...
I like this film, yes there are some annoying bits but overall I like it. Hated the sequel but fine with this one. Love the cinematics, sets, concept etc.. just don't like the ending.
This is Covenant are just.... whatever.... completely disconnected to the original trilogy (no, I don't consider 4 as part of it). These 2 movies were just to try to profit on the previous story. I won't argue on the quality of these movies, but they are "based" on the ORIGINAL movies. Also, I really dislike the need to show where the xenomorphs come from. Completely unnecessary.
The movie really fell flat for me for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. It didn't feel like an Alien film at all. More than that, although the film had some interesting ideas and was very impressive visually, the characters were all really stupid except for David. You had all these people who were supposed to be top experts in their field and they're all super terrible at their jobs, especially at being astronauts. Everyone makes really dumb decisions that get a lot of people killed. More than that, why on Earth would that medical pod only be calibrated for male physiology? That's just insane, a really weird, inept plot contrivance to justify the alien abortion scene. Most of the second half of the movie is like that, just implausible, nonsensical things happen that are barely connected to each other thematically or narratively, all problems that should have been solved at the script stage before a single frame of film was shot. I expected a lot more from Ridley Scott, and that was the most disappointing thing of all. Nice David Bowie shirt, by the way.
Thank you, Oliver! 👾 I saw it in the cinema... I loved it. Watch the deleted scenes, too, if you have access to those. #RolyPolyOllie #RidleyScott #Prometheus
So did, i loved the soundtrack playing through the cinema, I purchased it afterwards. I call Prometheus a new year movie. That was the day I went to see it in the UK. I think that the film does get some flack, the biggest issue is the way that Shaw gets treated after this movie. I think the way they handled her character was ultimately very dissapointing. Something I never thought of the first time I saw the movie. The love scene between Shaw and her partner, she said she couldnt create life. I realised that his desire to procreate with her, might have been more the Alien dna at work here rather than anything else. That thought did not occur to me till I watched your reaction video. Their race's primary purpose seems to be to reproduce? I am guessing the Alien dna seems to be able to work even in hostile conditions. (Shaw being infertile etc). But that I guess would also be consistent with its accelerated development rate as we see it progress (for stories sake), quite quickly to a face hugger.
Thanks for such a long, thoughtful comment, Darren. I believe you were addressing Oliver and not me. You might want to copy and paste it directly to him. 🙂
It's a shame the movie was butchered during editing and they didn't comit to the initial plan of prometheus. The whole creation aspect is far cooler than another generic monster movie. But the plebs whined and we got the theatrical version, and then covenant. Damn plebs.
And somehow, Ridley Scott managed - somehow - to make an even worse Alien film after this steamer. Saying reviews about this were 'mixed' was technically true - Ridley Scott liked this; everyone else hated it.
Ah, the worst sci-fi movie with an incredible cast since Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom menace. This film robbed us all of both a good Alien prequel and the Ancient Aliens movie that Ridley Scott really wanted to make. Thanks, 20th century fox!
Ollie - you should take a 50 minute sidestep to the Star Trek TNG episode "The Chase." Right now before the next Trek movie. You won't regret the recommendation.
This movie is trash and it's direct sequel is even worse. Your enjoyment doesn't negate the stupidity and horrific bad writing of both these movies. Fun Fact: The absolute stupidity of running away like Elizabeth and Meredith did from the Engineer's ship, has been dubbed the "Prometheus School Of Running Away From Things" trope by some cinematic enthusiasts. This troped is defined when a character(s) runs in a straight line away from a giant toppling structure instead of dodging to the side to safer ground. That scene is where a lot of the movie's earned ire comes from and deserved mockery is focused. Smoking Hazard Fact: Charlize Theron found herself struggling during her action scenes, due to her smoking habit, particularly the segments that required her to run through sand in boots weighing thirty pounds (fourteen kilograms). Music Enthusiast Fact: Composer Marc Streitenfeld had the orchestra play his compositions backwards and then digitally reversed the compositions for the final film. This made the music sound unusual and unsettling, which he felt was right for the film.
This isn't the same ship from the first movie, plus this is not the same planet. The Director played with us, also the director makes his character's stupid to build his story. the next movie does the same thing. Dumb people putting there lives above others, I was deeply disappointed by both movies. they need to stop... no more Alien movies please.
The unknown aspect of the monster is part of what makes Alien interesting. Trying to explain everything about it is the worst thing you can do. Plus the origin they came with didn't seem thought out by either intelligent or adult people.
Hi. Have to give you, a DISLIKE. ""Nothing connecting to Alien Series""??OMG you have NO idea what you just watched.!! This shows who Weyland was and how he went to LV 236.There are MANY ENGINEERS. Another Engineer took another ship and was already infected by a xenomorph. It crashed into LV planet that Ripley crew went on. So Weyland Company already knew about the aliens being in that system . When Ripley crew were going by another LV planet, the company set them up with Ash. Ash was the next generation robot. David was the First. David and Shaw went to the Engineers Planet, where Alien Covent movie is based.. The rest of the Alien movies are junk, in my opinion. This wasnt meant to be a horror movie, just Sci-Fi. One thing you never learn in all the movies is where are the xenomorph are from and how a Queen egg is made. The Alien movie, in production last year was going to address this, but Disney and Scott had problems so this movie was never completed. Find the deleted conversation between the Engineer, David and Weyland. It explains much more. Scott said he cut it from this movie because he thought it would confuse fans more, but after hearing it I found the opposite effect. You need to re-watch Alien, Aliens, to get better understanding of the series.
Isn’t it crazy how thin Wong used to be? Lol! And yes, the two finger wake-up slap to the cheek always made me laugh. Anyway, this movie had so much potential but the script just did so many bad things like characters being inconsistent, making dumb decisions, etc.
And Ridley Scott is back with Prometheus! Some amazing shots and cinematography with some cool effects made for a fairly enjoyable movie!
Thanks for watching! Have a great day! :)
Alien Covenant also takes place before the original ALIEN... so you gotta watch it :) And it will clear up your continuity questions.
For the record Alien is not Ridley Scott's brain child. Ridely was only the director, he did not produce or write that masterpiece of sci fic horror. He also didn't write this or Covenant either, he choose a guy who gave us the Lost finale for this one. For Covenant he choose the guy who wrote the worst of the TNG films. Trust me, it shows.
Just like to clear up that it's wrong for everyone to give Scott kudos for Alien when he did nothing but direct, and direct it well i will give him that, but he was NOT the creator of that series.
Alien Covenant is the successor of Prometheus. I'm still waiting for part 3.
By the way, since flat earth is briefly mentioned, I don't believe in it either. I've listened to BOTH sides and flat makes no sense to me. The sun could then not set or rise either, e.g. with measured sun positions at the same time in different places, the constellations also do not match or the far north, where the sun never sets or never rises completely for a long time. In exchange.
BUT otherwise NASA ect lies to us, too many things and not only that. The media lies to us 24 Hours a Day, like the politicians. In West and East.
I just want to link some of the space lies, but mostly in German (please activate YT subtitles, for other languages) or mixed languages. Sometimes pictures speak for themselves.
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Chinese Space Lab is FAKE like NASA ✞
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Before ALIEN, artist H.R. Giger designed DUNE, to be directed by Alexander Jodorowsky. The film never happened, but some of Giger's art for that film was used in Prometheus. Including Baron Harkoneens castle.
Also, Prometheus was filmed in 3D and released that way theatrically and on disc. If you ever watch it again, try and see it that way. Makes it even better.
The engineer at the beginning sacrificed himself to seed life on a young and still barren planet, possibly earth.
I'm part of the group that really likes this one. The sequel to this not so much. I reaally like the backstory of the engineers.
Theres and edit of the movie called the chaos edition, adds back in a lot of the cut engineer content.
Sadly, they got cold feet with the creation story and cut the movie to be more like a generic monster horror. Then we got covenant. 🤢
The rock, saving her, symbolizes her faith & belief.
Hence the lone rock.
The worms were an organic alarm to the sanctuary, which when stepped on, ultimately triggered the storm as a defense to intrusion
Prometheus doesn’t get enough love.
But does it **deserve** to **be** loved? 🤷♂
It feels like a poor answer in search of a question that never really needed to be asked... It also ignores about 30 years of book / comic book lore to try to give a back-story / origin story that nobody ever really asked to be rewritten.
And so you too have discovered the Prometheus School of Running Away from Things.
Actually, this planet (LV-223) and the planet on Alien/Aliens (LV-426 or Acheron) are both moons of the same gas giant (Calpamos in the Zeta Reticuli system).
How the man who brought the drones (pups) to map the damn alien ship/structure, got lost, is beyond me-And how Dr. Holloway was dumb enough to take off his mask in an uncharted untested atmosphere is beyond me. And why wasn’t he quarantined? Why did everyone else follow his example?
In answer to your question at the start of your review, this is not LV426, it's a different planetoid in the same system - the ship the crew found in ALIEN was a different ship.
The engineers were pretty badass, dudes spent a lot of time in the gym to get ripped like that. Some people didn't like this movie because it didn't feature the Aliens but I personally really liked it, it may not be as scary as Alien but it's interesting.
I like that this film takes place in the same universe,while not being an Alien film. It has serious problems,but it's way better than the utter trash hollywood puts out now.
@@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 That is true and speaks very poorly about Hollywood. They don´t produce movies any more, they vomit them.
@@tentsio they produce propaganda instead of entertainment
I hated the engineers so much, specially cause I loved how mysterious and really out of this world was felt that giant alien in the first movie. Those f+++ing engineers were the best they could come up with?. To make matters worse, I found the whole story around them uninspired.
@@promnightdumpsterbaby9553 That doesn't matter so much to me, movies have always had ideologies behind them and I'm old enough to have developed my own criteria. But at least they should be well told and well made or at least interesting films.
You're assuming that he was the only living engineer. He was the only one they encountered and woke up on screen, but there were other ships that we didn't see. We only saw a small fraction of the entire installation. Also, it seems there could be another world from which they came. Finally, the derelict ship from Alien was found on an entirely different planet.
Yes that was not the same engineer from the 1st alien movie
On your continuity question, while the donut ship is the same model as the first movie, there's no reason to believe that is the same ship and same engineer. There's another prequel.
I liked the movie but there were definitely some plot holes in there that didn't make sense. Eg: A bunch of scientists/highly skilled professionals go to an alien planet and first thing they do was remove their helmets without any quarantine/containment procedures or air/soil/water sample analysis.
And a high tech med pod only for male patients? How does that even make sense on a small space ship where every inch is premium and needs to be highly space-efficient, or even simply from a product design perspective.
But I do think that the xenomorphs stemmed from bioengineering, rather than organically evolved. Because if a species can evolve such defense/offense mechanisms, one has to wonder about the world they originated from and what other predators were there that caused them to evolve such mechanisms.
This film was such a relief after fifteen years of silly commercial nonsense from the Alien film franchise. I may still feel a greater affinity for Alien 3 than for Prometheus, but this film was still a welcome return to form courtesy of the person who originated the series.
If you are going to watch Alien Covenant I hope you watch the Star Trek Tng episode DataLore s01e13 first. There’s a good reason I promise!
Good idea! Also, John Logan who wrote Covenant, wrote Star Trek Nemesis, too.
Covenant was a weak film
@@Alex-nk6sy I don’t see why you’re saying that since no one here said otherwise.
This movie suffers from a common problem in modern sci-fi productions: characters that are too stupid to live. Bad writing requires the characters to make stupid decisions to achieve dramatic effect.
In the original movie, the cast were basically space truckers on a warn out freighter and their decisions were natural and believable. They weren't explorers or specialists.
In this movie, the crew of this critical, well-financed exploration ship are literally morons.
I saw this movie in theatres on release and there was so much hype for it and hope that it would re-boot the franchise after so many shitty adaptations. It was one of the biggest disappointments in cinema.
Scott's overall plan was to create this and Covenant then I think two more movies to completely connect to the first Alien. He was able to do the first two and there's some pretty cool and interesting "short" films that are part of the story that are available online. But the other two have been on and off as to if they'll be made. I read that there's also some more "action packed - horror - shoot-em-up" Alien movies that are in the works that are supposed to be released in place of the prequel ideas. If that''s the case it would be a shame because I'd love to get a good full backstory.
Short version: a lot of what you just saw is a setup for what's to come :)
There were plans to continue it, covenant was the 1st out of 3 films what would tie into the original alien film, ever since Disneys purchase of Fox it's been sadly on and off
I for one do not want a shoot-em-up Alien film. Even Aliens manages to be a little more than that, since the shooting generally accomplishes very little in that film.
I'm so glad you're watching this movie so many people gave it crap and honestly for me this is the first alien movie I liked I didn't mind any of the alien movies but this is the first one I loved I should say not liked I liked all the other ones but I loved this movie I didn't even know it was an alien movie until the very end in which case made me want to go back and rewatch all the old Alien movies this is the movie for me that got me into aliens I feel like people don't appreciate that enough this movie is what got me into aliens like it's good it's not the same as all the other ones but it's still fun to watch it's so interesting to see it all to me I I love the visuals it's just one of the best ones and I really like the sequel that comes after it hope you like it too
It is a completely different planet so a completely different engineer. Prometheus really doesn't connect back to Alien. It started as a prequel but Ridley Scott changed his mind and made a sort of parallel story focusing on creationism instead hence the confusion and dislike of the so-called prequels.
look close and you will see this movies takes place on LV223, Alien and ALiens take place on LV426
If you really search there is a script out there i read which the Engineers were first discussing their eventual demise due to their inability to procreate, and 1 stayed behind to sacrifice himself for us to inherit their image/hopes and evolve beyond. But humanity disappointed them time and time again so we were scheduled for destruction, but something went wrong. When the Engineer wakes up and sees a human begging for immortality (something even they cannot accomplish) he is disgusted and kills everyone and resumes the mission of human destruction. Again we are not worthy and missed the whole lesson of mortality and evolution.
The whole engineers concept is dumb and shallow as f..
Evolution is fake and cringe, so were the engineers.
@@piercebrosnan9528 "So [were] made of chimps?!" -Homer Simpson- So its like looking in to a mirror for you huh? "WHOA" -Neo-
It's a prequel to Alien, Scott just George Lucas'ed his way around that after it flopped.
I didn’t know this was a prequel the first time I saw this movie so the reveal was a surprise to me.
Same. I was just a very very casual alien fan before this movie. I only thought it was cool/ok but I liked predator much more. This movie made me want to look into the alien franchise more
Saw it in the theater, a couple came in with their 7ish year old daughter? I'm talking young. The self alien abortion scene. I was watching this little kid grab her father's arm. 🤣 They scared this little girl for life!!!
She will remember the best scene of the movie then 😄
For some inexplicable reason, many key scenes were cut from this movie or poor alternate takes used. A much, much better movie was left on the cutting room floor. Everything cut is fully complete including the first guy infected morphing into a much better creature and attacking.
This is a movie with amazing visuals but with so many characters doing stupid things and making dumb decisions and also weird plot holes (the geologist who MAPPED the alien complex getting lost in it and the ship captain who can see their location via a holographic map couldn't guide them out and treated like it's one big joke) that I found it extremely difficult to maintain the suspension of disbelief. But the sequence of Shaw removing that squid thing from her abdomen was absolutely JAW DROPPING. As for the finale, I always get the impression the engineers created humans just so they can be eventual breeding stock for the xenomorphs.
Ha thats right, he mapped the dam thing and got lost in it? WTF? Every planet has a magnetic north and even if there are magnetic storms, just use markers in the dirt? JHC
Not every planet has a magnetic north, only ones with a dynamic core. However, it's clear that this particular planet does, otherwise there wouldn't be plants and life.
@@THEvagabond29 The computer mapped automatically. He didn’t do it himself personally. If he doesn’t have a screen open he would be blind as anyone else.
This film and *especially* Covenant seem to make the characters stupid for thematic reasons. You can almost sympathize with David, who has to act docile and subservient to these mere mortals who are clearly too dumb to live. (But then again, do we really want to root for the murderous android over the humans?)
Those quotes are from “Lawrence Of Arabia”
If not the most beautiful cinematography of all time, it’s right up there.
It’s stunning.
Btw; This film is prequel to Alien and aliens etc. Also sadly Ridley scott will not acknowledge the Aliens film and what happened in it . especially the queen. sadly. (back in the day Ridley was asked to make aliens 2 but he was already making blade runner and he was also asked to direct dune who would be directed by david lynch) i don't think ridley liked cameron's style but the fans did. both alien and aliens i feel r great films. there is a fun split to see in fans when you ask people which they prefer. (usually the older generation like alien and the kids born in 80's prefer 2)
Yeah, well, Aliens is pretty much one of the greatest films ever made (and my favorite movie of all time), so I'mma pretty much ignore Ridley's feelings on the matter, if he doesn't like it.
Watching this, makes me very happy i didnt know this movie was a prequel before watching the movie
Can't wait for Star Trek 8
38:20 nope, this planet isnt LV-426 (the planet of Alien and Aliens), so unfortunally isnt the same Engineer and Ship
This movie took place on a completely different planet. So this is a different planet (lv-227?) different ship, different set of characters even if they are the same race The engineers kept messing with the bio weapon. One of the, I guess, common side effects of the infection resulted in the facehugger alien combo. So this is the aftermath of a containment breach. Ditto the original alien movie, containment breach on lv426 with a similar ship and engineer. So it's not a direct prequel, just linked by the bio weapon that causes the xenomorph.
Prometheus was a mess, a lot of buildup, questions, plotlines that all go nowhere. It has all the markings of a story written by Damon Lindelof, who also co-created and wrote Lost. If you haven't seen it yet, this is hilarious: ua-cam.com/video/-x1YuvUQFJ0/v-deo.html And this followup: ua-cam.com/video/avXZVgzLP68/v-deo.html
I love Red Letter Media…..
Why do people insist on calling these movies, good? It drives my insane.
@@BigGator5 People call movies from Snyder masterpieces, so the bar must be really low.
Android David is acting like the character from his favourite film, “Lawrence of Arabia.”
Watching LOA after watching Prometheus sheds a different light on David, and Lawrence both, you could say..?
Doing some research, I found Ridley Scott had originally planned to do a LOA remake, but plans fell thru and Prometheus happened instead! But Lawrence references remain! 🐪
The grey waterfall is an actual lake in Iceland
It’s grey from volcanic sediment as I understand it.
It's a bit like in the "Star Trek- The Next Generation" episode "The Chase" from 1993.
This is the parallel to the new starwars films . Who knows what's going on and why ?
I saw this in the theater, I liked it. It's my 4th favorite. I was hoping/expecting/wanting to see Xeno's, but when they didn't happen, I was a little disappointed, yet I was happy it was different and refreshing for not being predictable. "Covenant" is my 3rd favorite, if not "Aliens vs Predator". My favorite part of this film is David. That abortion was the scariest part.
Yes but this movie is the set up for the second movie. I actually do like this movie very much when you watch the two in succession. This movie will feel much more connected after watching the second part. The Engineer that you see in the movie Alien is not the same one you see in this movie. This might be the only Engineer on this planet that is alive, but they even said this wasn't their planet but basically a Lab to create their bio weapon. The other Engineer in Alien is simply a different one in a different ship that was likely transporting the bio weapon when it got loose.
But, at the time of Prometheus, it was just "black goo" or a bioweapon, it wasn't a "xenomorph," so how / why would an engineer be carrying a ship with final-form xenomorph eggs, as opposed to just the "black goo." Like, somehow the engineer(s) would have to find out about the finalized/stabilized xenomorph variant, and then get a hold of **that** in order to transport it [as opposed to the "black goo"] and then crash. To me, it seems like there are just too many logical leaps in all this for this origin story to make any sense with the start of Alien. Unless more moviesget made that connect the dots in some plausible non-contrived way that actually makes sense to bridge the gap to the original movie.
@Michael Gmirkin No i don't think they are carrying eggs...I would hypothesize that they were carrying the bio weapon and it got loose and infected members of the crew much like in Prometheus... leading to the creation of a Zenomorph Queen which killed the entire crew and then layed the eggs after, awaiting more victims for hosts.
What really bothered me about this movie is how many stupid decisions the character take at every turn...but then I saw Covenant, OH BOY. Now I kinda respect Prometheus 🤣
Dallas alone in vents & old man searches for cat all alone... yeah those were smart moves. Lol just sayin.. they all have dumb characters usually. Especially 3 & 4
@@KurticeYZreacts Harry Dean Stanton wasn't an old man in 1979. He was only 53, but I guess it's a matter of perspective.
@@torpedoboy4 Ripley gets in escape pod & take pants off, face hugger victim walks directly over giant egg with visual movements.
Burke's character makes lots of stupid decisions
Lol scientists testing on aliens in 4. Not smart
No you are correct and the alien had a hole in his chest where the alien burst out. I would say that this is not lv426 the planet from alien. If they had made a 3rd movie maybe it would end up there.
The xenomorphs are the perfect biological weapon, gradually honed over generations by the Engineers. If the Engineers decide that all life on a planet should be destroyed, then they drop a couple xenomorph eggs on the planet and every living creature on the planet is doomed.
You clearly haven't seen Alien: Covenant, and have literally no clue what you're talking about...
@@MGmirkin but at least I'm not an asshole to people online like you.
So much potential... wasted.
As for "Alien" being Ridley Scott's brainchild: Let's not forget Dan O'Bannon.
Without him, there would be no Alien, no Xenomorph.
Dan O´bannon is such an interesting figure. His name should be attached to Alien in people´s minds at least as much as Scott or Giger.
The film David is watching and quoting is Lawrence of Arabia. You should do a react video to it.
I love this film people don't give it a chance, nice to see your reaction 😃🏴🎄
Ohh, we gave it a chance, we just didn't like it, overall... 'Cause it felt contrived and tried a bit too hard at "explaining" the xenomorphs' origin, in a way that barely makes any sense.
And, frankly, when you over-explain something, it becomes less scary. When you know too much about it, it just becomes kind of ho-hum. Part of the terror of xenomorphs is not knowing what they are, where they're from. They're simply a terrifying unknown unknowable force of nature removes from "what we know" about the universe. Acid for blood? How can that be? Mouths within mouths? How? Surviving in the vacuum of space? Whaa?? Trying to take us step-by-step through their "evolution" from black goo, to infected eel thing, to weird squid thing, to proto-alien ... just kinda' takes the mystery out of it. Even as it also barely makes any sense at all...
Great reaction my dude 😅👍
ok hes the only one on that planet and theres other enginer worlds with other ships alein covanat will give you more info
There are moments in this movie that I love and others that I hate a lot. It´s almost 50/50 I think. It doesn´t flow as a whole for me. But I have watched it several times, so I must like it. From Covenant I just like to rewatch the flute scene when I need to cheer up and laugh.
I think it's the prequel, it's subtle but there.
Which is worse? Prometheus or Chronicles of Riddick ?
Any reaction by this guy would fit that!
Mad Max : Fury Road clearly.
@@Ny-kelCameron Fury Road is excellent.
Nice.
I wanted to see this so badly when it first came out, but my gf at the time had no interest and we saw Snow White and the Huntsman just b/c of the actress scandal. Our relationship ended quickly.
I had the same problem with the pilot chair callback to Alien not syncing up and it actually took internet digging to find out it’s not the same Engineer or planet or horseshoe ship which is actually super aggravating. They are even supposed to be thousands of years separated in which case - change the design! If you are going to go that far out of your way to fan service and then deviate it’s just super wonky.
I also don’t like the tired old space humanoid seeding the Galaxy trope - it’s a little too easy and narcissistic and (dare I say) religious of a universe explaining device.
The reason Alien is so scary is because of how humongous and dark space is (in space no one can hear you scream) - this movie tries to explain and define to the extent that it basically castrates the xenomorph into a factory lapdog which is not really a great addition to the arching story.
They strive to make outer space smaller and more defined.
No thanks.
Couldn't agree more! When this film was announced, long before it even got the name Prometheus, they PROMISED us that this film was meant to be THE prequel to Alien & we "would get ALL the answers!" Yeah, right! The marketing for the film kept up this lie. I had already bought my ticket when they finally announced that this is not a direct prequel but actually a side-story happening before Alien in the same "universe." Uhm... then why all the promises & direct Alien nostalgia references in the marketing? They wanted us on the hook first, buying the tickets, then telling the truth. That is not how you create a lasting classic. Prometheus does have its following, but just as much those - like me - that not only got highly disappointed because they promised us a direct prequel with answers & there were none. And why, oh why all these stupid characters that absolutely do not behave accordingly to their trade their claim to have. Sure, ever since the first Alien we have had stupid characters but this stupid? Prometheus claims to be a horror movie. Where is the horror? When you wish for the stupid characters to die there is no horror, horror only exists if you care for the character's survival. Then there's the "abortion scene" with Shaw taking out her alien squid baby. Those that love this film praise it, & that scene by itself is interesting besides the fact that there's no way she had stayed awake to do all that & also run away afterwards no matter how much painkiller she injects, the human body can only take so much drugs before you pass out or overdose. But my real problem is that she produced this dangerous alien, right? And NO ONE else, besides David, even ever gets to know of its existence! Which makes that alien almost totally irrelevant. OK, it kills the Engineer, who cares? Imagine the first Alien & the chest burster pops out of Kane but no one is there to witness it & no one ever runs into the Xeno once it has grown up! Gee, what a fun horror story, people = nothing happens & the alien is meaningless. Guess what, that is exactly what happens in Prometheus! They tried to do the same thing again but left out all the horror & plot-driven meaning. Why does this story even exist? Prometheus is a film that is just a pretty surface & contains nothing. It gives nothing of value to the franchise it belongs to, or rather lied itself into. Instead of providing any answer at all it just gave more questions that we, of course, will never get answered since Covenant conveniently avoids doing its job as a story as well.
By 2012 the Alien franchise had been around long enough for us to start looking at the origin & meaning of it all. We knew what the Xeno was by then, how it looked like & could do etc. That mystery was already then emptied & it was hard to go forward with new ideas. That was why I was so much looking forward to an origin story. I had watched characters I both love & dislike depending on Alien film die in so many movies, including the AVPs. I was ready to learn of the origin & why all these characters had to die & endure these creatures. They promised us to do precisely that & they got the original director to do the job. Well... Ridley was allowed to play Blade Runner in Alien & wonder about religion & the origin of humanity instead of the Xenomorph. He was permitted to leave the trail. I guess all the mistakes of Alien 3 was totally forgotten, even if the fan base had not. Some still fell for Prometheus. And if this had been an actual original story & movie, not trying or claiming to be part of the Alien franchise or any other sci-fi horror thing then this had been easier to swallow. Nothing excuses the idiotic morons that are the "characters" of this film, though, but still. But they from day 1 tried to sell this as a direct prequel to Alien & nothing less. They had a script that was tying into the first film but they skipped that & brought in Linderloff out of all hacks to give us this. If they had been honest from the start then Prometheus might have been more financial successful. It had reminded of Alien but not been considered Alien canon, far less disappointed Alien fans. I think even more Alien fans had been OK to this as an alternative sci-fi. But this is what happens when you lie to your audience & don't have proper plans & goals & stick to them all the way. Know what you wanna say. Or don't say anything at all.
Its actually a similar plot to Mission to Mars.
Michael Fassbender is just superb in everything
Film was fine but I think the one huge fk up was to give the aliens a backstory I would preferred this to be a mystery the fact humans made them sucks
You Need to watch 'The Thing'
I went to the Prometheus
School for running away.
So you clearly missed the class on simply running to the side huh????
31:42 “How did that one rock stop the ship.” And that my friend one the final straw of all the outlandish things that happened in this movie and the moment my mind checked out from this movie. I have tried a couple of times to rewatch it after seeing it in the theater and I can’t do it. This was a really bad movie. So much potential but the ball was dropped.
2 Words: Revisionist History. To me, this is 100 million dollar fan fiction, despite Scotts directing. The Dark Horse "Alien" comics had better "backstories" than this "ancient Aliens" BS.
That was very weird to say that I'm just going to say muscular men 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes, Prometheus & Alien: Covenant are prequels that try poorly to explain the origin of the xenomorphs and rewrite the origin story ignoring about 20-30 years of books, comics, etc.
So, yeah, **that** engineer is definitely dead, and this is a different planet from the one the ship is found on in the original Alien / Aliens. Different planetary designation (LV-426 was the original planet from Alien/Aliens, this was somewhere else).
So, clearly, the "engineer" in Alien was a different "engineer" from the one in Prometheus. Covenant happens later after Prometheus (direct continuation). Won't say what all happen there. In theory, there were maybe going to be a few more movies by Ridley Scott to "bridge the gap" to the original Alien. Whether or not they'll ever happen, who knows? Given the middling / off-put reception of the first 2 prequels. On the one hand, I kind of hope they eventually get made, just so we have the complete story, if there's one in mind, and Ridley wasn't just completely winging the first two movies with no real final direction or endpoint in mind. On the other hand, I feel like it's a kind of a poor attempt to explain the xenomorph origin story and kind of "rewrite" it as that they weren't actually their own species but some kind of adaptive / evolutionary bio-weapon or bio-experiment gone awry that was then somehow kind of "stabilized" into whatever the xenomorphs became. Which, IMO, kinda' undermines the original movies a bit... So, I dunno... The whole prequel feels a bit forced / contrived somehow...
I like this film, yes there are some annoying bits but overall I like it. Hated the sequel but fine with this one. Love the cinematics, sets, concept etc.. just don't like the ending.
Now check out Alien Covenant. It ties the story together nicely. I am a huge fan of both films.
NO DONT. That film is terrible.
@@orangewarm1 But the two Fassbenders playing the flute is funny .
This is Covenant are just.... whatever.... completely disconnected to the original trilogy (no, I don't consider 4 as part of it). These 2 movies were just to try to profit on the previous story. I won't argue on the quality of these movies, but they are "based" on the ORIGINAL movies. Also, I really dislike the need to show where the xenomorphs come from. Completely unnecessary.
I think there sort of ghost, of before I'm not sure fill me in guy's 🤔
The movie really fell flat for me for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. It didn't feel like an Alien film at all. More than that, although the film had some interesting ideas and was very impressive visually, the characters were all really stupid except for David. You had all these people who were supposed to be top experts in their field and they're all super terrible at their jobs, especially at being astronauts. Everyone makes really dumb decisions that get a lot of people killed.
More than that, why on Earth would that medical pod only be calibrated for male physiology? That's just insane, a really weird, inept plot contrivance to justify the alien abortion scene. Most of the second half of the movie is like that, just implausible, nonsensical things happen that are barely connected to each other thematically or narratively, all problems that should have been solved at the script stage before a single frame of film was shot. I expected a lot more from Ridley Scott, and that was the most disappointing thing of all.
Nice David Bowie shirt, by the way.
Are the engineers the Anunnakis?
Thank you, Oliver! 👾 I saw it in the cinema... I loved it. Watch the deleted scenes, too, if you have access to those. #RolyPolyOllie #RidleyScott #Prometheus
So did, i loved the soundtrack playing through the cinema, I purchased it afterwards. I call Prometheus a new year movie. That was the day I went to see it in the UK. I think that the film does get some flack, the biggest issue is the way that Shaw gets treated after this movie. I think the way they handled her character was ultimately very dissapointing.
Something I never thought of the first time I saw the movie. The love scene between Shaw and her partner, she said she couldnt create life. I realised that his desire to procreate with her, might have been more the Alien dna at work here rather than anything else. That thought did not occur to me till I watched your reaction video. Their race's primary purpose seems to be to reproduce? I am guessing the Alien dna seems to be able to work even in hostile conditions. (Shaw being infertile etc). But that I guess would also be consistent with its accelerated development rate as we see it progress (for stories sake), quite quickly to a face hugger.
Thanks for such a long, thoughtful comment, Darren. I believe you were addressing Oliver and not me. You might want to copy and paste it directly to him. 🙂
@@auntvesuvi3872 I was addressing both of you. Your comment above. Just loved your comment too.
@@darrenc2721 Extra thanks to you, Darren! Have a good one. 🌿
It's a shame the movie was butchered during editing and they didn't comit to the initial plan of prometheus. The whole creation aspect is far cooler than another generic monster movie.
But the plebs whined and we got the theatrical version, and then covenant.
Damn plebs.
The stupidity by some of the characters in this movie ruined it for me. This movie irritates smart people.
And somehow, Ridley Scott managed - somehow - to make an even worse Alien film after this steamer. Saying reviews about this were 'mixed' was technically true - Ridley Scott liked this; everyone else hated it.
I think film is b+ .. 😂 not too bad .
Ah, the worst sci-fi movie with an incredible cast since Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom menace. This film robbed us all of both a good Alien prequel and the Ancient Aliens movie that Ridley Scott really wanted to make. Thanks, 20th century fox!
In the beginning I think he tested the weapon and by accident he created humans with that
Ollie - you should take a 50 minute sidestep to the Star Trek TNG episode "The Chase." Right now before the next Trek movie. You won't regret the recommendation.
It is amazing how much you don't understand this movie...........
This movie is trash and it's direct sequel is even worse. Your enjoyment doesn't negate the stupidity and horrific bad writing of both these movies.
Fun Fact: The absolute stupidity of running away like Elizabeth and Meredith did from the Engineer's ship, has been dubbed the "Prometheus School Of Running Away From Things" trope by some cinematic enthusiasts. This troped is defined when a character(s) runs in a straight line away from a giant toppling structure instead of dodging to the side to safer ground. That scene is where a lot of the movie's earned ire comes from and deserved mockery is focused.
Smoking Hazard Fact: Charlize Theron found herself struggling during her action scenes, due to her smoking habit, particularly the segments that required her to run through sand in boots weighing thirty pounds (fourteen kilograms).
Music Enthusiast Fact: Composer Marc Streitenfeld had the orchestra play his compositions backwards and then digitally reversed the compositions for the final film. This made the music sound unusual and unsettling, which he felt was right for the film.
This isn't the same ship from the first movie, plus this is not the same planet. The Director played with us, also the director makes his character's stupid to build his story. the next movie does the same thing. Dumb people putting there lives above others, I was deeply disappointed by both movies. they need to stop... no more Alien movies please.
Why couldn’t the Aliens have originated from somewhere in deep space? Why do filmmakers milk every great concept dry? Answer: $$$$
And the concept was shoehorned into Raised By Wolves, somehow.
The unknown aspect of the monster is part of what makes Alien interesting. Trying to explain everything about it is the worst thing you can do. Plus the origin they came with didn't seem thought out by either intelligent or adult people.
@@rdumontdebeque In Raised By Wolves worked better, for a while at least.
Hi. Have to give you, a DISLIKE. ""Nothing connecting to Alien Series""??OMG you have NO idea what you just watched.!! This shows who Weyland was and how he went to LV 236.There are MANY ENGINEERS. Another Engineer took another ship and was already infected by a xenomorph. It crashed into LV planet that Ripley crew went on. So Weyland Company already knew about the aliens being in that system . When Ripley crew were going by another LV planet, the company set them up with Ash. Ash was the next generation robot. David was the First. David and Shaw went to the Engineers Planet, where Alien Covent movie is based.. The rest of the Alien movies are junk, in my opinion. This wasnt meant to be a horror movie, just Sci-Fi. One thing you never learn in all the movies is where are the xenomorph are from and how a Queen egg is made.
The Alien movie, in production last year was going to address this, but Disney and Scott had problems so this movie was never completed. Find the deleted conversation between the Engineer, David and Weyland. It explains much more. Scott said he cut it from this movie because he thought it would confuse fans more, but after hearing it I found the opposite effect. You need to re-watch Alien, Aliens, to get better understanding of the series.
Well there must be more Spaceships and more engineers but we still need the last prequel to see it
Isn’t it crazy how thin Wong used to be? Lol! And yes, the two finger wake-up slap to the cheek always made me laugh. Anyway, this movie had so much potential but the script just did so many bad things like characters being inconsistent, making dumb decisions, etc.
Interrupting the scenes every 5 seconds with watery drivel does not make a good reaction
Prometheus is one of the stupidest movies I have ever seen.
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Thought this movie was great...love the circular ship tie in to alien n everything else....too bad so many ppl don't agree...