Ranking the ALBUMS of PINK FLOYD
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We live in an age where everyone wants to have an opinion but they don't want to hear anybody elses. Great vid cheers.
I'm currently compiling a worst to best of Andy Edwards videos...
I'm preparing to rant about your ranking video =)
Hahahaha to the comment and to the reply!!!!!!
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Go on then...lets see what you got, you think this is easy dont you ;)
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Hahahahaha…..
The biscuit video better be no. 1. 😂
Pink Floyd are one of a few bands that I bought the albums when they came out, and still listen today.
I am a psychiatrist , your unwillingness to accept the perfection of DSOM speaks to a profound fear of death
DSOTM is a front-running candidate for best album of all time.
It's an incredible album and I'm not really a big fan of Pink Floyd.
DSOM is overrated. Stevie Wonder's albums are the benchmark.
@@joecotter6803bringin up a whole different artist just to put down an album js to put down tdsotm🤦♂️🤦♂️
@PS30-ts2le I first heard DSOTM whilst at university. We were listening to Bitches Brew, Escalator over the Hill, Music of my Mind, Jack Johnson, ......
DSOTM sounded OK but derivative and an example of pretty mundane musicians trying their best, taking over 8 months to record some 40 minutes of music. I quite like Pink Floyd having seen them live from their inception with Sid half a dozen times. In their own terms I prefer 4 other PF albums to DSOTM. In comparison with many other artists , PF are as consequential as say, AC/DC. I can't see what the fuss is all about DSOTM hence my comment.
Takes me back to my youth when all I needed was a block of hash and Obscured By Clouds.
Watching you say that Money by Pink Floyd comes second best in the list of tracks that use a cash till loop to the theme tune to "Are You Being Served" has to be one of the most entertaining things I've watched this week!
Haha. That reminds me of when Paul Morley said Fantasy Island by Tight Fit was better than Led Zep 3. 😁
Pink Floyd are my favourite band and this is a great summery of their work, yes most of it is flawed but when it came together it was more than just music
‘73 tour they opened with Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun, followed by Careful with that Axe Eugene, One of these Days, and Echoes. And then DSOTM in its entirety.
I remember being in Annecy in 1970 when a band was playing by the lake. Set ze controls for ze 'eart of ze sun.
100% agree with your evaluation, I think you have been fair and objective, but also very entertaining
I once saw a stat that said 80% of Pink Floyd’s fans are only familiar with a handful of their most famous albums (Dark Side, Wish, Wall). I had a neighbor who claimed to be a Floyd fan and told me she loved their saxophone player. 😂
Yes, the same old story with most bands that had an interesting and less commercial past and then a hit record comes along: You get all these mainstream, conservative, middle-of-the roaders jumping on the bandwagon and suddenly telling true fans what their band is and what is or isn't good about them. Breakfast in America did the same thing for Supertramp and its fans.
Probably the way it is for most fandoms. I knew a girl that said "I love The Division Bell" when I mentioned Floyd...I doubt she knew more than that.
That would be John Helliwell from Supertramp then?
He's a local from up Todmorden.
@@jelk1188 Good observation. This pattern plays out over and over again .
What is your definition of fan? I would consider myself a fan because I like a lot, but definitely not most, of their music. I fall into that category for a lot of bands. I was introduced by a housemate I had in the late eighties who I would describe as a Pink Floyd Fanatic. I am a small “f” fan. He was a big “F” Fanatic. I assume I heard the whole catalog numerous times while I lived there. I only had an interest in some of it. I’m too picky to like most of anyone’s catalog.
I quite enjoy songs like Free Four, Childhood's End, See Saw, Summer '68.
You would probably also enjoy “Wots… uh the deal” as well
@@RapSnitch911 I definitely do.
Summer'68 is amazing, for some reason it reminds me of A Day In The Life by The Beatles
@@Gabriel-ns2cn That's interesting. I always loved the horn section on the outro to Summer '68.
@@chrismorgan7494 me too
Here's my Pink Floyd album ranking, as a fan of about 6 months:
15. The Endless River. Most of this album feels like background music ineffectively trying to imitate the Floyd's classic 70's sound. Louder than words is the only song with words and even that isn't amazing. Fav track is louder than words. 4/10
14. More. Most of this album is made of unmemorable ballads and instrumentals, but it does have some good moments with the Nile Song and to a lesser extent with Ibiza bar. 5/10
13. A Momentary Lapse Of Reason. This is so 80s it's not even funny. There are some memorable tracks and Gilmour performed some great solos throughout, but the songwriting is a massive downgrade from when Roger was in the band. Fav track is on the turning away. 5.5/10
12. Ummagumma. The live section of this album is compelling and has some great versions of early tracks, but the studio portion is less so. The Narrow Way and Grantchester meadows are alright when you're listening to them but they're very forgettable. Sysyphus has some amazing parts, and I find that people shit on it just because they aren't used to avant garde music. Don't even get me started on The Grand Vizier's Garden Party and Several Species... I think we would all rather forget about those, but I still recommend that you listen to this piece of work. Fav track is careful with that axe Eugene (live). 6/10
11. The Division Bell. A pretty solid piece of work. High Hopes is the highlight, but there are some other good songs like the spacey Marooned and Keep Talking. Dave definitely improved as a songwriter on this album. I don't listen to this one much but when I do I quite like it. Fav track is high hopes. 6/10
10. Atom Heart Mother. I think Summer '68 is a really great orchestral pop song, and the suite is good, if a bit stretched out. Everything else is alright. Fav track is summer '68 6/10
9. The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn. For me, Astronomy Dominé and Interstellar Overdrive are by far the best tracks! There are some good moments on other parts of the album but what I have a problem with are Syd's attempts at making pop songs (Bike, Scarecrow, The Gnome). This is a very enjoyable listening experience for me. Fav track is Astronomy Dominé. 6.5/10
8. The Final Cut. I think this album is massively underrated. It has some brilliant gems like Two Suns in the Sunset and The Gunner's Dream, and some other standout moments with The Post War Dream, Your Possible Pasts, Not Now John (which has a killer groove, by the way) and the title track. I hate Get Yer Filthy Hands off my desert with a passion though. Fav track is the gunner's dream. 7/10
7. Obscured By Clouds. This is such an underrated gem! Free Four had some of the best lyrics Roger ever wrote, David really shines as a guitarist, a singer and as a songwriter on his great piece Childhood's End. Most of the tracks are enjoyable for me. Fav track is free four or childhood's end. 7/10
6. A Saucerful Of Secrets. I don't understand the hate this thing gets! Every track does something for me, especially Syd's Jugband Blues, which I think is one of his best songs. Remember A Day is my favourite Rick song, Let there Be more Light and Set The Controls are amazing too. Fav track is Jugband blues. 8/10
5. The Wall. Everything about this album is brilliant. The concept is relatable for so many people around the world, and every song is enjoyable and brings something to the album. It's definitely an album much greater than the sum of its parts. Fav track is comfortably numb. 8.5/10
4. Meddle. Echoes is one of my favourite Pink Floyd songs and is a sprawling piece about human connection and empathy. Other standout moments are Fearless and One Of These Days. I'm not a fan of Seamus but It's short enough to not make much of a difference to my opinion of the album. Fav track is echoes. 9/10
Tied 1. Wish You Were Here. This is a fitting tribute to the wonderful Syd Barrett, and no song disappoints. The title track is iconic, and Shine On is a masterpiece. Fav track is shine on parts i-v. 10/10
Tied 1. The Dark Side Of The Moon. I can't even begin to express how amazing this album is. Every song details something that causes madness and is so relatable. It sums up human existence in 40 minutes. What more can I say? Fav track is us and them. 10/10
Tied 1. Animals. What a surprise! This was the first Floyd album I heard and I despise politicians (pigs), so maybe I am a little biased towards it, but it truly is fantastic. I love the instrumentation, the singing and of course the songwriting. Everything about this album is just perfect! Fav track is dogs. 10/10
There is a couple good songs on Dark Side - but lots of filler. Just my opinion. Animals - no filler, simply utterly brilliant. Wish you were here not far behind. Dark Side for me really is massively over-rated. Again, like your opinions, just mine, cheers :)
@@junk_rig_sailor1698Interesting take! I appreciate your love of animals and wish you were here!
@@junk_rig_sailor1698 Agreed, but for one thing: No fillers on Animals? Then why did they put on PotW twice? Mind you, Animals my favorite PF album too, because I think it's the only one where the acoustic gimmickery serves a purpose, the rest of their oeuvre is just gimmickery for the sake of gimmickery, look how accomplished we are... That's why IMHO they did not withstand the test of time. Some albums were OK at the time of conception, but once the novelty wore off, not much was left. There are moments of brilliance on many of their albums, but they are always undone by parts that completly put me off. The lonely B- G E F motif on SOYCD is so iconic (even though he obviously nicked it from the track "Im Suden" off the album Cluster II) that it alone would have made WYWH my number one, if it wasn't for the final minute when Richard Wright tries to "improvise", which for me ruins the entier album and always leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
And that's the main issue with PF, they don't know how to end an album on a high. If Animals ended with Sheep it would have been a 9/10, however they just had to add that pointless one and a half minute, and now it's 7/10 at best.
@@acatnameddoerak Yeah but Pigs on the wing is a good piece of music, not so so filler...or am I being too kind to the Floyd..
@@junk_rig_sailor1698 You are :)
Pink Floyd was my favorite band for more than 30 years. But now, after watching this video, all has changed. I hate them. Thanks for showing me the path, Andy.
Lol
Yes I hate them now too
I hope, over time, critics will lower my opinion of all my favorite bands and albums so that I will no longer be tempted to listen to them or be tempted to buy album reissues.
Dark Side is a perfect encapsulation of that period in time. When I play it, I'm back in 1973 with orange wallpaper smoked glass coffee tables and big flares.
@@Fontsman-14/ and onyx table lighters
Animal farm is Orwell's take on how he believed Stalin betrayed the ideals of Communism/socialism/marxism (whatever you wanna call it) and totalitarianism, not a criticism of marxism itself. Not I'm not a marxist.
I’ve been a Floyd fan for 50+ years, Andy. For me, you’ve done a fair summary of their albums and work in general.
Pink Floyd is my favorite band and I love most of their catalog. Andy gets a thumbs up for his apparent, genuine love of music and for being just unbelievably entertaining. Nothing wrong with someone being honest about what they do and don't like especially when giving thoughtful and insightful arguments.
Their hypnotic in their prime. Listening to animals on headphones in the dark is a must have experience!
Andy, you have done it again… Sheer brilliance! I loved the Stardust bit!
I love Pink Floyd and I love this video. It's very objective and it makes me rethink my apreciarion about them albums. Thaks Andy
What I like about this video, and this channel, is that it's exactly the opposite of what those quite awful 'reaction videos' are about. What are they about? They're about some young guy or girl telling old people how 'surprisingly awesome' is their old music. It's all a farce, really -- and a poorly acted one. Rather, here, you've a smart guy telling you like it is. It's challenging, and when he likes something, you'll know he's being honest.
All I think when I see those is "stop lying, everyone knows that song"
I very much agree with you.
Mark my words, "AI reacts" is going to be a thing and put all those channels out of business.
Can't believe I'm saying this, but I basically agree on your ranking as well as the interesting points you're making, though overall I probably look at Floyd more favourable than you do. I don't think every album has to be weighted equally in an evaluation of a band. For example you seem to put Zeppelin on a pedestal, since they have less duds than Floyd, however if you could overlook these duds for a second, Floyd can easily hang with Zep, don't you think? Andy, I've got another question, you've often mentioned your affection for the English aesthetic, highlighting in this video particularly Syd's whimsical songs as an example. But I haven't heard you talk about The Kinks so far. Shouldn't they in this context be among your favourite artists?
i love the Kinks...Waterloo Sunset English Aesthetic personified
As a huge Pink Floyd fan, this is one of the best critiques of Pink Floyd I have ever seen. We Pink Floyd fans are so full of ourselves and them, its great to see an an attempt to bring us back to earth.
Part of what makes Pink Floyd popular is their relatability and Shakespearean story arc.
The opening scene has an enigmatic, talented visionary who self destructs in the first act.
The remaining members hold it together with hard work, Wright/Mason’s talent, and Gilmour’s model looks. There’s some glimpses of great potential in a messy struggle.
In the third act, they hit their stride but the wounds from the first act haven’t healed and destroy the band.
The magic is gone, their most musically gifted dies, but they soldier on and the bitterness amplifies with only Mason appearing to be at peace.
wtf are you talking about
@@nectarinedreams7208 an explanation of Pink Floyd selling 250 million albums worldwide wide. Andy said it well; DSOTM is the best distillation of the human experience put on record. It’s their relatability/their story to all kinds of people that explains their popularity/success.
@apparaoapparao So high sales means artistic greatness? Damn, Justin Bieber must be Dostoevsky
@@Trifixion22 yes; Bieber and Hootie and the Blowfish must be relatable to many people….Bieber especially appeals to females (half of the population). Relatability is far more important than talent for mass sales.
Raging Edward in his rocking chair. Better than watching Cassius Clay.
Great vid Andy… Floyd are great.. really enjoyed listening to your thoughts.. keep it burnin🔥
Yes!! You have convinced me somewhat. It has made me see it in another way!
Yeah not me. They are definitely historically up there with the beatles and ahead of zep. Im not enamoured by virtousity like andy is. In fact are the beatles brilliantly skilled musicians, no they arent. Without new experimental ideas you just end up with the rolling stones over and over.
Take led zep my 2nd favourite, did they do anything original apart from turning amps up and playing like the skilled session musicians that they actually are.No they didnt.
@@doscwolny2221 Virtuosity should serve the music, not the other way around. Prog frequently confused the former for the latter. Pink Floyd did not play Prog.
Obscured By Clouds,... hot summer nights and wine.
well said.
The whole OBC and More albums I like most of all. The others are all ok.
Obscured By Clouds is so underrated
@@RapSnitch911 Agreed!
I'm a floyd fan. I think you got it about right. And yes the beatles were more influential, but no band has ever been more influential than the beatles, and even some of their albums are a bit questionable.
Beatles had a bit of filler for sure … but apologists would just say you don’t understand… fick a yellow submarine, is but one,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Pink Floyd premier Dark Side of the Moon in January 1972, 9 months before "Are you being served", and over a year before it was released?
Once again a great analysis, Andy. You're really giving some new food for thought on your viedoes, including this one. Please ignore all the negative comments and simply do your own thing. You're actually doing these videos for the people who like them. If you found your audience (video-ence?) you're where you want to be, and you can ignore the others.
This is a good point I should remember,,,thanks
I rather liked the cash register loop in "Money". When you heard it ,in the first use of quadrophonic sound at Earls Court in 73, it really was quite exciting. The rest of the DSOTM gig was pretty exciting too. That was live, of course and I am a Pink Floyd fan but my bests are Crimson, The Beach Boys, Stevie Wonder, Return to Forever and XTC.
Definitely gave me a different and enlightening perspective. I did always find the albums from the second to DSOTM rather mixed and without direction. Thanks
Nobody home may be the greatest work of rock and roll poetry I've ever heard!
15: More
14: Ummagumma
13: The Endless River
12: Obscured by Clouds
11: A Momentary Lapse of Reason
10: A Saucerful of Secrets
9: The Final Cut
8: The Division Bell
7: Atom Heart Mother
6: Piper at the Gates of Dawn
5: Meddle
4: The Wall
3: The Dark Side of the Moon
2: Wish You Were Here
1: Animals
Andy, you hit the nail on the top. I am a very big fan of PF and will probably always be. And I know all of there albums pretty well. It's the brilliant few songs on a handful of albums which putting them into the my favourite band and shows their brilliance. Many of there albums are quite ok and some are difficult to listen and to understand. Well done, thanks!
I'll add my mild objection to Andy placing Obscured by Clouds so low. Growing up with it as a teenager in the seventies, this album takes me to my happy place. I'd place it about fourth or fifth favourite
As THE undisputed Floyd Fan in my circles - a "scholar" you might say, who is working on a book about the band - I will be the first to defend your opinions, not that you need to justify them in any way. For one thing, your facts are (mostly) straight; you've done the work to learn the context and track their development. For another, you have a wide musical palate which gives you a rock-solid foundation for deciding what constitutes "good" and "bad" music to your ears. And lastly, in an admittedly self-serving swerve, your list is 70% similar to my own. Here's where you and I seem to diverge: the entire scope of their journey; their triumphs and tragedies from pre-Syd living room gigs to world-weary post-Rick remnant, is absolutely fascinating to me (hence, the book), and the more I dig in to that human interest story and overlay their musical output onto it, the more I appreciate even the garbage. And there IS garbage, Floyd fans...let's keep a foot on the ground, m'kay?
In the end, still a good review of Pink Floyd's legacy.
All I can say is, as a young Irish student, studying in London a lifetime ago now, it feels, buying 'Animals' in Tower Records and taking a walk by Battersea power station and listening to it on my Walkman, was the greatest musical experience of my life! It cemented my love for British art and culture that has lasted all my life.
You could have revealed that David Gilmour eats babies and I'd just say, 'Yeah but what about that second solo in Dogs?'!
On paper, probably not the greatest band in history, but for a lot of us here, Pink Floyd is 'our' greatest band In modern musical history.
Enjoyed your take none the less.
Me too. First time i was listening the album Animals in a cassette that a friend gave me, it was long time ago, maybe i was 15 or something and i had the idea!! to listen the album when i went to sleep on my bed. So i turned off the lights on my room to enjoy my Fav band on my walkman as well...Hahaha!! But during the song Dogs i thought that the barking of dogs came to my ears from outside my house. That was a shock for me when i took off the headphones and relised that were sound effects from the song... lol
@@koszim 👍The barking was equally, eerie for me. Walking past Battersea dogs home!!
Oh, great days! Take care.
Good video. You have kind of charisma with your loudmouthing. Keep on. I'm subscribing now.
I just appreciate how real and down to earth you are, far from snobby..
Animals has been my favourite far and away from the first time I heard it. Agree though that their consistency between albums is all over the map. I do appreciate them for their musicality over virtuosity.
You make a very good point about the age you hear something and the fondness this instils. I was 13 or 14, loved the Stones, Bowie and all the glam rock that was in the charts. I'd just started getting into Zep in 74 along with Sabbath,.Yes and Genesis came a coupl've years later. I remember at the same time in 74 a mate did me a tape of DSOTM. I was absolutely blown away, I'd never heard anyrhing like it. I also loved WYWH and Animals. I investigated the early albums and apart from Meddle (and that only because of One Of These Days and the epic Echoes), was distinctly underwhelmed. Piper never really did it for me. All that psychedelic whimsy got on my wick to be honest, gnomes called crimble crumble or whatever it was. I see Syd almost like a British Wild Man Fischer, and Madcap Laughs and Barrett are quite disturbing, and you wonder about the exploitation of Syd at that time and I get the same feeling about the relationship of Zappa to Wild Man Fischer. Anyway by then I was finding the pyschedelia in American bands like Jefferson Airplane, Country Joe and Quicksilver Messenger Service much more interesting because it was more guitar based. But unlike you I really did love Saucerful Of Secrets. Not so much the title track, but stuff like Remember A Day Set The Controls, and especially the beautiful Seesaw had a sort of evocative, dreamy feel to it, everything I'd expected on Piper. A mate if mine was a huge fan but you could see him struggling to get into albums like More and Obscured By Clouds. I didn't get The Wall at all, my aforementioned mate probably played it to me once and I just found it tedious, and don't think I've listened to it all the way through since. Then you get the Ford Mondeo Man years, insipid bland muzak. Against my better judgement I went to see Roger Water on The pro's and cons of hitchiking tour in 1984. It was quite interesting because he had Clapton in his band. The concert was split into two halves. The first half was the turgid Pro's and cons stuff. The second half though was Floyd songs and Clapton was playing acoustic mostly and it was fascinating to see him play stuff like Set The Controls and the like and absolutely nail it. My respect for Clapton's versatility went yp a notch after that. The most memorable thing though was seeing a vaguely familiar bloke with an extremely glamorous companion, smoking an absolutely huge spliff. At one point he turned around and we slowly realised it was James Hunt. He was probably the most rock n roll person in Earls Court that night.
Well said.
If Syd hadn't gone mad, those earlier albums would have been amazing.
I would say, “better” as opposed to “amazing”. Syd Barrett had a unique style/voice. 🎶
@@david.leikam It was his strange lyricism and unique guitar stylings that made the early singles classics. No one else sounded like him that I know of.
Some of Syd's solo albums he did after are not bad. Very moody though.
@@themetallian2112 Apparently he had already lost it by then. Love some of those songs, but he'd clearly not been in a good place when writing them.
I think he would have left the band. He didn't want to be part of the circus.
Thanks for getting rank here Andy. Pink Floyd deserved your laser focused scrutiny.
I just came up with an idea for you. From 1966 through 1970 (or so) the new long tracks on rock albums often featured obligatory drum solo sections. It would be great to get your take on these early attempts at rock drum exploration.
Here are a few pieces that come to mind.
Toad by Cream, Refried Boogie (41 minutes long!) - Canned Heat, Soul Sacrifice - Santana, In-A-Gadda-Da-vida - Iron Butterfly, Time Has Come Today - The Chambers Brothers, Revelation - Love (seems to be the first) and I'm sure you can think of more. But I'm particularly interested in that period from 1966 to 1970. What do you think?
Keep going!
Great idea! I play the drums (used to be the drummer of a pro band) but I actually often hate most drum solos in bands, especially in live shows. It's like "ok, it's time for the circus, for the drummer to show off his skills". The fact that the other musicians leave the scenario just re-inforces this idea. Exceptions? Things that the Double Trio (King Crimson 90s) did, Mastelotto and Bruford, but then again, those were mostly compositions, not solos per se.
Rick Astley has released 9 albums!!! You should rank them.
Probably less boring than Pink Floyds
😂 you’re a funny fella Andy. Great content. I loved your description of Dark Side and what it means, I found it a bit moving in fact. Some of your criticism of the band seems to be based on them being greater than the sum of their parts, that individually they’re not that great and to an extent this is true. I’d argue that achieving that magic or chemistry on a few albums is more alluring and interesting than just 4 superb musicians making good albums without event or much friction. It’s in their flaws that we find ourselves and relatability. It’s in the humanness of having it all and letting ego destroy it. No one wants a perfect symphony, we want an affecting and memorable one. And you sir, have made a memorable video 👌🏻😂 kudos
My good mate in High School specifically recommended “Summer ‘68” to me, because (correctly) he thought I would appreciate the piano-horn section stylistics of it. It’s come to be something of a very personal song for me. It perfectly describes pretty much every crush I’ve developed from meeting random chicks at parties.
I agree with most of that! Great video. I kind of wish they had split up properly after the Wall instead of fading out. This was almost as good as the ranking of biscuits video - what were the comments like on that!
Their lack of virtuosity is one if the things I liked most about them. Its sophisticated music but it was always achievable to me as a kid. What Pink Floyd do so well for me is atmosphere! I think atmosphere is such a forgotten component of art and music. They take me to another place and I love them for that.
my hot take is that virtuosity only matters to other musicians
@@theshrubberer I like virtuosity and very simple things. I don't think either should be looked down upon.
@@Captain_Rhodesare you a musician? I'm not and I'm am not qualified to distinguish between a good musician and a virtuoso. I just know what I like and that is all that matters to me. My point is I think I am typical in this regard.
@@theshrubberer Yes I am actually. But I dont consider Genesis better than the sex pistols just because they could play harder things. Plus I always liked Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughn before I could play anything so I think many people who dont play music do like virtuosos too. What you like is all that matters 🙂
@@Captain_Rhodesno doubt I like music by some virtuosos , particularly jazz musicians and minimalist classical. im not anti virtuosity ...cheers
Nice outro! Was that the theme from Sorry?
This video is just what i needed, i am about to start my Pink Floyd album week where i listen to an album every night for a full week. This week its Floyd! I am taking the top 7 from this ranking which i shall listen to .
Nice ranking!
I only own One Record and it is a great Psychedelic Record along Electric Music for Body and Mind by Country Joe and the Fish:
Piper at the Gates of Dawn.
Great video.
I came for Pink Flyod but learned about two TV show themes.
Hello, Andy. I like your videos. Great stuff there. What do you make of a band like Radiohead?
He doesn’t like them.
@@justlookingaround9834 I've kind of figured it out since I asked, by watching a few of Andy's videos. I love Radiohead to bits. But hey, that's totally cool if one doesn't. Can't like everything, right? Take care!
@@Bobmacca64 I really like Radiohead too, but I can appreciate that it can be seen as self-indulgent.
I am a fan of Floyd and agree completely with your ranking and most of the commentary. Thanks for the effort.
So... you are not a fan anymore?
Regardless of the rankings Nick Mason’s Saucerful of Secrets was a great concert experience highlighting early PF. Tribute bands are an indication of the band's staying power. All that said, I get your take on PF.
Well said, Andy, but what I really want to know is how much is the rent for that recording studio at the end of your latest video's.
sadly that was a longlong time ago
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Too bad, I was hoping to finaly have found an alternative for Conny's studio!
Speaking of which: will you be doing a ranking of famous producers?
Brilliant idea...where do i put Narada!!! Possibly Tom Wilson no 1...and that would upset everyone whose knee jerk reaction would be George Martin
Thank you Andy for the challenge. I am a PF fan and actually I couldn't care less what anyone think about this band that I love. But...as a fan it is almost impossible for me to look objectively at their catalogue. So thank you again for giving me this objective angle. And putting the rose coloured glasses aside, you made many valid points and I would agree to most of them. They are not the greatest band of all time, but to me out of personal and very emotional reasons they will always be my favourite band. DSOTM was the first rock album that I heard back in 1976 when I was 8 years old and it shaped my perception of music from there on. They had their peak around 1971 to 1977 for me.
Thank you again, great ranking. Always a pleasure watching your videos. And by the way you are a fantastic drummer😊
My favourite band; WYWH is my favourite album. But, I cannot argue with a single thing in your analysis! Spot on. Love your channel.
I loved the video. Even if I love PF, I've thought at some point the criticism you made about these albums. That said, the one thing I'd criticize is that at the beginning you said "I'll make a special mention to Live in Pompeii because it is truly a great album".... but I watched the whole thing but that never happened!
"Dark Side Of The Moon is probably the greatest embodiment of existential angst and its relation to death and the infinite. That's a heavy subject. It's almost like THE subject."
Very well said. Anton Bruckner's 9th, unfinished symphony, is just that to me, and probably one of the most important work of art I know. It's about what we have to live with, no matter what: the understanding that the time we experience is all we have, all there is from our perspective and that our best course is to cherish it. Roger Waters ends his redux with "it's not all dark", correcting what was a good joke but maybe not quite the best choice. I agree with him for once.
Pink Floyd?
😂😂 Perfect
Lol good one 😎
...which one's Pink?! 😂
Pink Flawed
My first Pink Floyd album was "The Wall" on 8-Track tape in January 1980. I couldn't tell which song was which. A friend of mine had the LP. I borrowed it and manually typed the lyrics with my dad's electric typewriter. I brought them to school one day and accidentally left them in the library. Later that day, I went back to the library and had to practically *beg* to get them back from the librarian who'd found them and actually bothered to read them! She said they were written by a sick mind.
Renaissance?
Jethro Tull?
Forget Dorothy and Toto. Someone needs to start a theory that one of the Floyd albums was channelling Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em. 😃
Andy - I agree with your intro, but it really took guts to rank Pink Floyd albums after you just got done telling everybody there overrated. But I love it! I may not agree with your ranking, but you are entitled to your opinion. Your opinion has many valid points. Well done. I am subscribed and I gave you a thumbs up. Please don't hold it against me. LoL.
As for the haters, full sympathy to you for putting out opinions and then being unfairly "labeled". My big complaint about social media is thst people do not discuss they just "label" and call each other "phobic" this and "ist" that ..
its lazy intellectually dishonest cowardly shite. I call it the "tyranny of jargon". All the jargon that i learned as an anthropology student in the 1980s has now become weaponized by the stupid, and i mean that ,by the stupid non reading social media virtue signalers and rage junkies on borh exteme. What a fuggin mess. You have my condolences
Wish You Were Here is Richard Wright's masterpiece and sits very well at #2 on you list sir. Shine On You Crazy Diamond side 2 should be listened to with surf vision to get maximum effect. I had been in Australia for ten years and one day I went into a pub and they had waves crashing on the video and Shine on audio and it was the best pub experience i've ever had.
It's true they were lost without Syd. It's true that the studio album is a clear show off of their absense of a north, which was Syd. Still, they managed to make a huge random-multi-styled studio album. Apart from Nick Mason's contribuion (which is REALLY only rubbish), the others' parts on the studio record are valuable personal free experimentions in composing. Love Wright's, Gilmour's, Water's parts - man, I even enjoy listening to "Several species of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict"! I sincerely do. When I first met it - I was 14 - I felt astounded for months; couldn't get its music out of my head, had so many trips alone in my room listening to it on the loudest volume - and sober trips, I didn't take anything! The fascination slowly decreased with time, but I still find it an excelent exemple of free improvisation. Boy, that heavy metal riff on Gilmour's guitar, in the second part of his part on the studio record - a perfect catch of the pre-heavy metal that was everywhere in England by that time, you could here it in The Beatles, Hendrix, The Yardbirds, Jethro Tull, Cream - great riff. I felt proud of myself for having learned it alone in the guitar! Excelent album, though dizzy. I hardly listen to the Live record today.
When you say Soft Machine are 'not very good at it', do you include Third? (Okay - side one's a bit 'of it's time' but the rest... Wow).
Don't give a jot about Pink Floyd but love Ronnie Hazlehurst.... Are You Being Served is 1972! Way ahead. Also the interval lines in Some Mothers Do Have Em theme are beautiful... sounds lovely on piano. Well done for the RH reference... a Scotch Egg in the post...
You can pretty much sing the title to every melody of Hazelhurst's themes, so clever. The Fall And Rise Of Reginald Perrin might be my favourite.
@@squareeyedgit Two Ronnies is up there too... amazing bassline and orchestration... search "Ronnie Hazlehurst - The Two Ronnies"
and the unexpected direction it takes...
Hope we can look forward to a Ronnie Hazlehurst theme tune ranking in the future, when Andy's stopped messing around with all these seriously over-rated beat groups. A greatest all-time T.V. themes ranking would really have us drooling. Rockford Files has got to be in there for starters...
theme from "The Two Ronnies" - a simply amazing big band tune
The Wall was one of my favorite albums when I was in high school back in the 90’s. I then wanted to explore Pink Floyd’s previous catalog and when I got to Ummagumma I thought, WTF are these animal noises and how did this make it on the album?
1 - Wish you were here
2 - Dark side of the moon
3 - The piper at the gates of dawn
4 - Atom heart mother
5 - Meddle
6 - Animals
7 - A saucerful of secrets
8 - The final cut
9 - Ummagumma
10 - The wall
(All of the LPs above are absolutely fantastic - and I would change their rankings depending on the day and the mood I am in, except for the top 3, which are really the cornerstones of Floyd).
11 - Relics
12 - A momentary lapse of reason
13 - The division bell
14 - More
15 - Obscured by clouds
16 - The endless river
Man, I have loved this band since 1973, when I first heard Dark Side.
Great video, I love your sense of humour and that you'll express your opinion even if you know you are going to get push back on it. Generally though I do think you have a considered opinion and are willing to change it.
Maybe I say that because I'm broadly in agreement with what you're saying. I don't think I'm quite as impressed with the existential angst of Darkside as you are, I think it captures the time, it represents a post Christian UK society, it effectively mirrors the time and is well expressed, but it is not inspired like Syd Barrett was or Yes on Close to the Edge or even Thick as a Brick. I put more credence in inspiration, so I see it as a little less important, but Darkside is stunningly well made, it reminds me a little of the Suite on Abbey Road which appears better than it is because it is so well woven together. Darkside is likely the best Barrettless PF album. Although I'd rather listen to the title track of Atom Heart Mother and thanks for the appreciation of that.
I'd probably put Piper at the Gates of Dawn as number two, I think the odd experimentation works on that surrounded by Syd's quirky songwriting and his odd guitar work. As you say it is a psychedelic classic, possibly the best psychedelic album of all time, although the psychedelic times was only really 1967-8.
To me the Wall is a miserable album and I can't listen to it, it's definitely something, whereas some of those early post Barrett albums aren't really. I would put it above the final Cut though.
Personally I have a soft spot for PFs aimless early works, which I like better than the last two Waters albums, they have a vibe to them, Nick's drumming is better on those. I find Momentary Lapse a relief, but I can't claim it's a great album, but at least it's not miserable.
I agree about David Essex and “Stardust” by the way !
And I well remember the cash register at the start of “Are you being served ?” I was about 10 or 11 when that show first started. Always watched it. Quite liked it.
I’m often suspicious of rankers {} that claim that they haven’t listened to all of the albums they are ranking over a lengthy period. It’s just my opinion, but I think it takes time to assimilate an album and a set of albums.
But I’m always interested in people’s takes on things and this was no different. The video was good, even if I barely agreed with some of what I heard.
I was interested in the views expressed about “Saucerful of Secrets” because that album {along with the debut} changed my musical headspace back in ‘79 when I was 16. I can dig why people don’t like it because it’s not the kind of album that is accessible.
But I still adore it. I found it hard to understand when I first heard it. I found it hard to work out where one track ended and another started. It took while to become familiar with what each track actually was. I even had to cut the title track until 1981 when I finally got it ~ and it was instrumental in me being able to tackle jazz in ‘82.
I love early and earlier Floyd and I stop with the band at “Meddle.” That was where they began to find a direction and they lost their interest for me. I much prefer _their_ music when they were trying to find a direction, when they were all over the place.
One other thing. Although I won’t disagree with you about “Ummagumma,” I have to say that its album cover is easily in my top 5, ever. Such a shame the contents don’t get close to matching it, if your ranking is to be believed !
My list would be :
1. Dark Side of the Moon
2. Animals
3. Meddle
4. Wish you Were Here
5. Piper at the Gates of Dawn
6. The Wall (The older I get the more this feels like a Roger Waters solo album)
7. Obscured by Clouds (I think their most underrated album).
8. Atom Heart Mother
9. Saucerful of Secrets
10. More
11. Momentary Lapse of Reason
12. Ummagumma (The live part is great the rest not so much)
13. Division Bell
14. The Final Cut (Basically a Roger Waters solo album.
n/a The Endless River (haven't listened)
"San Tropez" rules
Andy, I'd be very interested in with what equipment do you listen to music?
Is that the theme tune to Sorry ? If so quite apt ;-)
Yes...and it was arranged by Ronnie Hazelhurst too..
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I thought so, I always thought it was a great theme tune. The theme tunes of the sixties nearly always sounded great, Randall and Hopkirk, The Avengers, Jason King, The Champions, Robinson Crusoe, Man in a Suitcase etc . As a Pink Floyd fan I enjoyed your rankings and agreed on the whole. Whats your thoughts as a prog band " It Bites "
Spot on. My favorite band based on the power of 4 albums.
I like Meddle enough to make it 5, bit disjointed I suppose...
Your top four are my top four as well, so that's really something. I generally agree with the rest of the list. I do like Atom Heart Mother and various things on the other earlier albums like Astronomy Domine and Grantchester Meadows.
I always love what you have to say. My horizon has been expanded beyond what I can describe in words since I discovered your channel. So much amazing new music on my shelves and my Spotify playlists. I love your rants. I love your passion. I do NOT agree with everything you say, but who cares? However ... there's one thing I don't get. Why rank them? Why rank albums? I have som very fond memories of listening to The Final Cut. Good times, with the best friends you can wish for, singing along, playing air saxophone and air guitar along with Two Suns in the Sunset. Next day my heart breaks listening to The Great Gig In The Sky, or Comfortably Numb. Perhaps I get some relief from all my frustrations by listening to Have A Cigar. I may feel inspired to start a revolution when listening til Sheep. Whatever! You get my point. There is no number one/best Pink Floyd album. There are different days and different moods. Oh well, what do I know?
In any case, I love your channel Mr. Edwards. Please do not change anything, no matter what grumpy old geezers like me throw at you in the comments.
Because without a ranking very likely you and I wouldn't be watching Andy's videos... These rankings generate views, and that's what Andy needs right now. Once he has a more stable viewership (and I watch him regularly, I've been a patreon for more than a year now), he won't need rankings and we will only get philosophy sundays type of videos.
Anyway, I liked your post -- I just "kept it real", as some Americans like to say....
Also, to be honest, I love rankings, though most of the time I don't agree with them (and likely Andy won't agree with his own ranking at a different day in time)... but it brings something subjective and argumentative that I like.
@@jdmresearch That is, Sir, a very fair point. Thank you.
There's no best one until you're forced to the desert island and you only get to take 10 albums and no repeat artists...
@@elasmojones So what would you take? How many by this band? In my case, just one: Animals. I love some other albums as well, but the other 9 albums would be from other bands....
@@jdmresearch My brothers and sometimes make lists, where if they take something, you can't have it, and we go in order. I think Dark Side, then The Wall, but.....dammit OP was right. We always take Floyd last because we're happy with any of the big 4.
I've loved Pink Floyd since I was a kid (I grew up in the 90s). I love your take on Pink Floyd. Any time anyone asks me what kind of music I like, and Pink Floyd happens to be what comes to mind, I'll say 'Pink Floyd.'
Then the massive caveat would always follow, because I couldn't just leave it at that. I'd always have to go into detail about how they had this era where they made these 3 brilliant albums and nearly everything before and after is trash. Which makes me question whether or not I'm even a fan, and I don't really care. I love Wish You Were Here, Animals and Dark Side of the Moon.
Are You Being Served! Great show. Mr. Peacock!
From A Fellow Brummie Andy HA !.
Great On Your Comments...
And I Agree With Your Top 4 Order Mate 😊👌🍻🎸🎷🎵 👍🍾
Burning bridges from Obscured by Clouds is one of my favorite songs ever. Love the duet between Gilmour and Wright
They are all number 1 Andy!! Nothing from The Floyd and be anything less than #1!
Purple Hazlehurst all in my brain.
Love your take on the themes of Dark Side. You don't get that depth on other channels.
Btw Andy, do you know they were almost bankrupt before the Wall. He offered the Wall and The Pros and Cons of Hitch Hiking, the members chose the Wall. Gilmour’s additions gave it gravitas.
which ones Floyd?
Hey - we haven't even figured out, which one's Pink (maybe Roy Harper?)?! And why are the others not mentioned in the band's name?! 🤣
the endless river is a nice album that lets the music speak for itself. very good for focusing and beeing in the zone of some creative work.
Ironically Beato and I agree showed why Comfortably Numb was a great song. Note choices matter. Sounds matter tones matter. And I think there have been times that while not rock stars, we have all felt numb to all else, and can well relate to that feeling whether it be alienation or mental illness or simply an off day.
I think upsetting fans of any band is probably doing them a favour. No-one should live long in the echo chamber of complacency fandom sometimes creates. Especially if said fans begin ascribing some idea of virtue to what is really just blind faith and ignorance.
Excellent narrative.
Was that the theme from Sorry? Language, Timothy!
I love Pink Floyd, I’ve read all their poems.
Great video Andy. I agreed with your top 6 or 7… I’d be interested to know where you put Live at Pompeii if you were to slip it in.
I think its my favourite. The first time I came across Pink Floyd was as akid watching Crystal Voyager so i have soft spot for those tunes, then i saw Pompeii...its incredible IMO, And its the best version of all those tunes, even echoes which is a bit overlong on the original. I would have it maybe even number one, definitely if this was based on my personal taste
@@AndyEdwardsDrummeron the Echoes best of the version of Echoes is 6 minutes shorter, yet still contains all the requisite movements.
Exactly
'Pink Floyd are not Stockhausen, they're really not!'...... this is one of the best inducements to go out and buy an early Pink Floyd album that I've ever heard. I have sat for hours listeting to Stockhausen records and mulling over his benighted scores. The one good thing he ever did was that thing recorded inside a bat cave, and the only good thing on that is the remarkable reverb he achieved down there.
I shall give Huggamudda a go.
It's interesting hearing a PF album ranking from someone who is not a die-hard fan. I agreed with most of your opinions. a lot of the early work was experiential. as fans we had to suffer through that to get to Dark Side. So i think it worked. thought of a future video...compare DS to wish u were here. I'd say they are equal but different thanks