Watching Jedi go and train with elite practitioners in other grappling martial arts then coming back and trying to integrate them in his BJJ would be a great series to watch. For example like: Sambo, Japanese jiu-jitsu, catch wrestling, Luta Livre etc... good vid Jedi!
@@albertcohee7757Luta Livre is Brazilian catch wrestling. No-gi ju-jitsu is derived from GJJ. They are competing paradigms of grappling and they differ on their respective training philosophies.
@@Mcginnty948 I'd argue its even easier in no-gi. You have to combine it with wrestling though. Its basically what the DDS and B Team guys do for takedowns.
Throwing mechanics are throwing mechanics. If you’re doing no-gi while you’re doing Judo you’ll be fine. You’ll just learn to adjust your grips and stuff accordingly. The fundamental mechanics and timing are largely the same.
As a Judo player for 40 years and a BJJ player for 5 years, the BJJ stance is very easy to overcome. It's a very unstable stance and common amongst beginners, you grip the back of their collar step back and drive their face into the mat, it's a cruel to be kind type of thing. Dominanting the grip is key in Judo, as soon as you have your grip attack. Bicep curls will help you achieve a strong grip. I did BJJ to help my newaza in Judo, and it certainly did help. I always preferred Judo, I felt I have a good scap and could let a bit more steam off than BJJ. Both great sports.
@matkasim Personally, I would advocate trying your utmost to keep out of any street alterations even if it means running away. There are way too many variables such as knives, etc. However, if it comes down to having to use self defence, then I was taught never to go to the ground with an assailant as they're freinds may be round the corner and you'd be outnumbered and vulnerable. I was taught this by an ex paratrooper, so that makes a lot of sense to be me. Therefore, I would have to say Judo every time. If you throw someone hard enough, they are not going to get up in a hurry.
Love the ending lmao. Sick video, Jedi. I am the reverse of you somewhat. I trained Judo for just over 3 years, then a few years later started BJJ. I'm also 3 years deep into BJJ and Judo has definitely given me a massive advantage over most people on the feet, not just people my rank. I think a big part of that is actually understanding grips and my weight distribution. You should stick with it and see what you think! Btw, I sometimes let my opponents try single or double leg me, just so I can grab an overhook and harai goshi their soul into the mat. Please try do this in your next judo video ;)
No joke I did judo as a teenager for a couple of years. In my 40s I went mountain biking and crashed on a jump going over the handlebars. Somehow I tucked my head did a front roll and came up on my feet w barely a scratch. Judo saved my life that day.
Similar story: I trained judo for about a year as a kid and vividly remember how I hated the "endless" ukemi we did at warming ups. Fast forward 35 years and I crashed my motorcycle on a slippery road: Had it not been for the ukemi I learned to hate in my younger days, I'd probably be toast.
I did judo for a year and of all the martial arts I've trained, the judo breakfalls have been the biggest asset to my physical safety. I had an identical fall to yours while trying to do a front wheel wheelie and a similar tuck and roll after flying off a trampoline with my legs over my head.
I've heard a lot of stories of judo ukemi saving people on bikes and motorcycles. Then it happened to me on a quad. Add me to the list of those who will vouch for ukemi when riding death traps on wheels.
Stoked to see you try out judo! Gotta put in the reps bro. Being able to train with other body types is a game changer. If you learn to do uchimata with the same 5'5'' dude its not gonna translate when you go with the 6'2'' person. Btw at 5:01 hes actually going for osoto gari not tai otoshi.
Its pretty cool that you are keeping an open mind and cross training to benefit your BJJ. Judo has a STEEP learning curve and learning it for for BJJ takes A LONG time to get good because the reactions you get from a BJJ guy versus a judo guy is completely different. The BJJ guy will keep their hips back and low to take shots and not grip fight as much, a judoka will stay up right, grip fight, and circle a lot while attacking foot sweeps to set up the big throw. Once you find the balance between both arts you'll have a MASSIVE advantage on the mat. I've done BJJ for 24 years and Judo for about 20 and I'm still trying to figure it out. LOL! Good luck on your journey!
I’ve found your channel recently after having started BJJ after 7 years of Judo Uchi mata is the hardest throw in Judo. The reason your throws weren’t working vs the one that did is you didn’t off balance you opponent first - that’s what the warm up drill is for, you’re not just drilling the entry but the kuzushi to off balance your opponent or the technique won’t work - you’re pulling their arms up to get their heels off the floor so they get thrown easily and lightly versus force. Keep going. Well done - that foot sweep is hard to get. Also if in close frame your top grip forearm against their chest - it helps you control the distance and stops people getting under you. He used this on you many times when not attacking if you watch
Uchi mata is definitely one of the hardest throws to pull off. There's a reason you never see it in wrestling or low to mid level judo. You'll see it a lot in BJJ because most BJJ guys can't defend takedowns
@@josephfontelera8881 if you watch high level Judo you actually see it all the time. It’s a high percentage technique which as stated in the video is a hip technique, not a leg technique. Even if you don’t hit it, the entry usually leads to some secondary attacks. It’s quite safe generally speaking. To get it right and pull it off at a moment notice. It’s definitely hard to do well. There’s a few different ways of doing it, but against a BJJ person with a low stance, if you can get in deep with your step it’s very likely you’ll catch them. It’s not judo people making things harder. Done right it IS harder. Ken-Ken uchimata less so, but you’ll struggle to pull that off without athleticism against someone good who doesn’t over commit their weight, which a good judoka won’t
I would politely disagree that uchi mata is not the hardest throw to learn in judo. There are many factors involved in how "hard" a throw is to learn in judo. Some factors may include your body and its mechanics, as well as the coach (or coaches) you are learning uchi mata from. Other factors can be the size, shape and experience of your training partner(s) and the consistency in which you choose or receive the opportunity to practice certain techniques, like uchi mata. What might be a "hard" throw for you to learn, could be "easy" for someone else to learn. So, perhaps for you, uchi mata has been one of, or maybe the hardest throw in judo for you to do, personally. I have been training in judo for over 14 years, and coaching judo for six or seven years, being one of the coaches at the club I'm at. Uchi mata is my favourite throw, as I am a fairly tall person (6'3 / 193cm) with long legs. In the past, I always found uchi mata difficult to do, and to be absolutely honest, my former coaches at my previous club were not good at uchi mata, and because they rarely performed it during their 'judo careers', they did not quite know how to do and teach uchi mata to others. They very much favoured other techniques, like seoi nage. About seven or eight years ago, we had a guest coach from another state run a weekend training camp (or seminar) and he is a 6th dan red and white belt. He showed me a different way to do uchi mata, and his way to do uchi mata was quite beneficial for someone with long legs, someone like me. I loved this variation, felt comfortable doing it, and have been doing it ever since. My former coaches are very "old school". They strictly believe (or believed, I don't know if they've changed their mind) that kuzushi (breaking one's balance) means pulling someone up on their toes toward you. With respect, this is not entirely true, it's not so black and white. "Kuzushi" literally means "to level, pull down, destroy or demolish". In a judo sense, it is indeed breaking someone's balance, forcing them to become unbalanced, but this can be achieved in many ways, not just one. For example, if you were to grip someone, force their head to the side (so the top of their head was effectively facing a wall) and their spine becomes somewhat curved similar to an upside down 'L', then their posture is broken, and so is their balance. They are now vulnerable. Without going into too much detail (and it might sound weird) but this is how I utilise my uchi mata. While there are many throws in judo, there are many different ways to do said throws. When it comes to formal demonstration for the purpose of belt grading/promotion, you would usually have to showcase throws in their original or traditional manner (which can seriously suck, I am terrible at the "traditional" uchi mata) but when it comes to randori (free practice, fighting/sparring) and/or shiai (competition), you can do a throw in whatever way you feel comfortable (as long as it's within the rules of judo competition, of course). Furthermore, while there are many throws in judo, a judoka (judo practitioner) will probably only be "really good" at a select few, say three or five throws.
Great video, I've been training Judo with some of my friends who are national and international competitors, I feel it's helped my BJJ game dramatically. Thanks for the free content!
I do a lot of judo, cause there is no Jiujitsu were I live, we focus 50/50 between ground work and throws which is awesome, nice to see some judo content I’m sure it can really change up someone’s jiujitsu game
I trained in Judo for about 4 years, than wrestled for 2 in high school. I’ll let you know right now having the background in this 2 definitely help in BJJ. I’m able to do a lot of takedowns and throws that my classmates don’t even know about, let alone how to defend
Pretty much the same for me. I was a blue belt when I started high school wrestling and... let's say they didn't like me. Wrestlers don't expect to be thrown hard -- as there is no point advantage in doing so. Then again, there was no point in doing so in wrestling competitions other than to stun them for a pin. I kept focusing on Judo, competed at national levels. Wrestling was still good training -- fitness, no-gi training, learning to face folks who fight in that defensive stance, etc.
The way you absorb information and learn new" jutsu",I think you would definitely benefit from Judo. I would love to see you practice more Judo and integrate it with your jiu-jitsu.. Another great video sir! 🙏✌️
Been training Judo for over a decade along with BJJ, the standup and gripping for Judo can really help you dictate the pace of the set. Really cool video and I see you like sweeps, figure out your partner's timing and you can really launch your attack from there...
I do pure no-gi BJJ now, but got my start in Judo. Learned a lot of Greco-Roman ties to help be able to set up my throws in a no-gi setting. You'd be surprised what can be accomplished against much better wrestlers when you have a good sense of leverage.
Judo for the sake of judo is very different than judo for bjj for the mere fact of grip and posture. Uchi mata is the king of all throws in my opinion every competent judoka has some variation of uchi mata in their game. But I suggest learning a good very solid Koshi guruma and ogoshi before learning straight up uchi mata since it’s a pendulum technique (in others words has complex body mechanics to have a really good one) tip on judo techniques kozuchi (off balance pulling motion) is everything with good strong kozuchi your already 50% there to throwing someone next time you try judo focus on the pull more than anything else and you’ll see how the rest comes naturally Great video Jedi
Love the content, but you brought the wrong belt to the Judo Dojo. Unless you've earned it, stick to white to show respect. Imagine the confusion of someone pulling up with a yellow/orange/green Judo belt at your BJJ practice.
Awesome. Judo was my first martial art at about 13 years old. So glad I took this first because it's very hard on the body but I loved it. I'm 39 now and I've competed nationally in TKD tournaments and open martial arts tournaments as well as Marine corps martial arts when I was in which made that a lot easier since I did Judo primarily. Awesome video.
Judy,you’re great! And open mind,I had learned from you,that always we learn something new. I am judoka,since I was 11 years old.Now in mine 61,everything is changed😊congratulations!
I feel like judo is good grappling art for self defence. Grips on clothes are a really hard thing to deal with and being able to yeet people to the ground while remaining standing yourself seems more useful than a wrestling takedown.
Evry judoka laughing when the Randori was happening and and o Soto is mixed up for a Ty otoshy 🤣 had me laughing for ever this was still a great video however as love seeing the bjj guys going back to the roots and learn the og version of there stile
As a Judo Purple belt and BJJ Blue (and almost purple) I got to say.. it takes a long time to master takedowns, maybe thousands of repetitions to really get good in one or two. Uchi Mata is also very difficult in BJJ due to the long and long posture, it is not something I try often. Leg sweeps (ashis) and Drop Morote/Seoi work good.
Awesome to see you trying Judo! One thing to note is that, while it is important to establish your grips first, it's equally important to establish the RIGHT grips first. If you grip first but you grip with the wrong side, its worse than having no grips at all. For example, let's take a right handed judoka vs another right handed judoka. I'm a righty, so I've trained to turn to the left to execute all my throws, for a leftie, its the opposite. So if I'm fighting a leftie as a righty, and I instantly get a grip with my rear hand, I'm going to be thrown. While I did establish my grip first, because I gripped with the wrong side, it doesn't actually stop my opponent from turning to the right (the direction all his turning throws are trained in), I'm also attaching myself and basically giving him the throw. Griping first is extremely important! But remember to grip in accordance to your opponent!
interesting to watch. I did a traditional Japanese style of Jiu-jitsu with loads of throwing but was different from Judo. For example a hip throw in JJJ rather than using your leg to sweep and tucking their arm, you would bend at the knees and get your hip outside their hip, tucking their arm into your grip and reaching around them. Another thing is rather than grips you would use strikes to loosen your opponent for the throw. Love the ending BTW
@@DGold109 it would be graeco-roman, if legs were allowed to be attacked by legs in there. so judo is something in between graeco-roman and freestyle wrestling.
New to BJJ (5-6 classes) and Orange belt in judo. Man judo gives me such an adventage standing. Love the JUDO/BJJ combination. You just have to learn what works on BJJ. Or no gi.
Just stumbled by this channel. Loved the video, hope they continue be like this. Newly Subscribed at the moment. You look like my older brother a lot. I mean a lot lol.
These were great! I was looking for a judo gym around where I live but there aren’t any in my city 🥺🥺🥺 I’m looking to learn stronger takedowns. Looks like I’ll need to train some wrestling instead. I love the ending by the way! Great stuff!!! 😂😂😂😂
I will never forget that ending🤣 I'm now a yellow belt in judo, you were definitely better than me on my first day! Good job! 🥳 Also that's a quote I want on my tombstone, "people always say that I end things to abruptly, so this time I'm gonna-"
One thing to add here....in judo you can stand up straight and not worry about those take down that BJJ usually use such as single leg or double leg because that is a perfect setup for a counter using tomonage. Judo has such a massive repertoire of take downs and counters that the BJJ practitioners not aware of and they always are surprised about it.
When I was competing as an athlete we had standing submissions and leg grabs in Judo (in fact, single and double leg takedowns are judo throws, Kuchiki-taoshi and Morote Gari, respectively). It was only in 2012 that the rules changed. There are a few things guys can get away with now that they couldn't with leg grabs (over-committing the hip or forward leg, for instance) but correct posture was just as important then as now. I don't miss flying juji gatame that's for sure. Hopefully you stick with it and find some techniques that transition well into your ne waza (ground game). In our club (we have both disciplines) we see far too many BJJ students showing up for one or two judo classes before a tournament and then lamenting that none of it worked. It can take years to master a handful of throwing techniques, and even more time to master gripping, movement, and positioning. The throw is really the easiest part.
@@heliomachit5651 Ha! Our sixth Dan keeps making jokes that he is a "no-stripe white belt" in BJJ. He is a savage in ne waza. I'd rather get thrown by him for ippon than go to the ground with him. I'll just tap out thank you very much!
Key takeaway judo takes years of dedicated study to master against unwilling opppnent. It's infinitely harder than ground work. There's weight to take care of and balance. It's off the charts coordination, athleticism. Bjj is a tiny subset of the parent judo. Case closed.
Okay, when you are rolling in BJJ, the issue is that he isn't put in a position where he could conceivably fall anyway. He's completely balanced and you are shooting your leg in in hope. Work less on the trip and more on establishing kusushi. A trip is a finisher to kusushi, not the opening movement. Great stuff.
Explode into your moves, make them come out of nowhere. Also you want to push them or direct them towards the opposite side you are trying to throw them, once you feel them countering it, explode into your throw into the opposite direction using the other guys momentum for your adventage.
I'm liking this little experiment, how about a handful of more judo lessons then enter in an orange belt tournament with your mates at the judo club and see how you go. You don't need to stand upright you can go bad judo stance as long as you attack for a pretend throw then clean them up on the ground.
First Lift up your opponent’s right arm with your left arm, pulling away from your opponents right toward your outer left, to open up for tai otoshi. You also forgot to drop below your opponent’s center of gravity. I’ve been a Judoka since 1967. Try a combination of a feigned inside foot sweep on his right foot, his pulls the foot away which opens him up to many right-sided techniques including tai otoshi. Fun video!
I'm bjj purple belt and I also practice Sambo from some months. In my opinion in Judo and Sambo timing is very very important. Technique is effective if is done at the right moment with the correct weight distribution of you related of your opponent. I hope you will do other similar video where you explore other martial arts with the aims to improve your jiujitsu. And I think also
Great video! A decent response to single leg attempts, is to counter with ma sumtemi: sumi gaeshi. Literally scoot yourself forward, and sit on your bum directly downwards, throwing uke over the top of you. You use the leg this have as leverage against the inside of their leg.
Your video ideas are refreshing in the BJJ world. You combine your creativity with BJJ. My kids love your kids. You can start your own series for kids. Keep it up.
If someone takes a wrestling stance against you in the gi you take a deep over the back grip and launch them. Its such a strong grip you have complete control of their posture..even if they shoot on you you just sumi them over your head. There were leg grabs( i.e. single and double legs, firemans etc.) in judo until 2008 and the judo stance was still way more upright because there are so many strong grips over the back (that don't exist in no gi) and giving them up is such a big disadvantage.
Great effort! That "tai otoshi" you are attempting and that was attempted on you is actually a "ko-soto-gari." Tai = body Otoshi = drop ko = minor soto = outside gari = sweep Remember to get your hips close and under and then use your leg! Keep trying!
For jiu jitsu I would say working on drop seio nage or better yet drop o soto gari is probably a good idea, especially at the beginning because these techniques that take way less time to master and are farely easy to pull off against people with very little experience in judo or sambo.
Never realised just how different Judo is from stand up BJJ. The key difference is not even noted and that is the use of the grip to break balance and set up throws. Ju is about accommodating or harmonising with the opponent such that the opponents own movements are used to create opportunities, think of using your grip to turn your opponents leg grab into your uchimata.
Still a white belt in BJJ and no experience with Judo so maybe I just haven't learned/practiced this yet but did anyone notice their hands during the grip fighting around 2:30. Jedi has wide open karate hands/claws while Otoguro keeps more of a loose fist shape. It seems like the coach's hands would prevent finger jams and snags while jabbing in and out on attacks and would also minimize the distance the hand must open/close to secure the grip. Are there any good instructionals out there on grip battling before the grip is secured?
You have to off balance the guy before going for throws and trips. Danaher teaches this beautifully in feet to floor. Use your superior grips to move your opponents head and center of mass off the axis of his base of support
@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 stance, grip, movement, KAZUSHI then throw. If their head is behind base of support throw them backward, if it’s forward throw them forward. Side to side you have a light foot and a heavy foot. Sweep the light foot or attack the heavy foot with some power
Watching Jedi go and train with elite practitioners in other grappling martial arts then coming back and trying to integrate them in his BJJ would be a great series to watch. For example like: Sambo, Japanese jiu-jitsu, catch wrestling, Luta Livre etc...
good vid Jedi!
Agreed….fun idea. I’d def watch.
Luta livre is literally just no - gi
@@albertcohee7757 It's not but ok...
@@albertcohee7757Luta Livre is Brazilian catch wrestling. No-gi ju-jitsu is derived from GJJ. They are competing paradigms of grappling and they differ on their respective training philosophies.
I wanna see jedi try lightweight sumo. itd be fun
I’ve always wanted to learn judo. You can’t pull guard on everyone
its hard and it will only benefit your bjj in a gi environment
@@josephsussex4885 really? So does that mean to pull it off no gi I’d have to be really high level?
@@Mcginnty948 no judo works plenty well with no gi.
@@Mcginnty948 I'd argue its even easier in no-gi. You have to combine it with wrestling though. Its basically what the DDS and B Team guys do for takedowns.
Throwing mechanics are throwing mechanics. If you’re doing no-gi while you’re doing Judo you’ll be fine. You’ll just learn to adjust your grips and stuff accordingly. The fundamental mechanics and timing are largely the same.
As a Judo player for 40 years and a BJJ player for 5 years, the BJJ stance is very easy to overcome. It's a very unstable stance and common amongst beginners, you grip the back of their collar step back and drive their face into the mat, it's a cruel to be kind type of thing.
Dominanting the grip is key in Judo, as soon as you have your grip attack.
Bicep curls will help you achieve a strong grip.
I did BJJ to help my newaza in Judo, and it certainly did help.
I always preferred Judo, I felt I have a good scap and could let a bit more steam off than BJJ.
Both great sports.
Which do u think would be better for street application?
@matkasim Personally, I would advocate trying your utmost to keep out of any street alterations even if it means running away.
There are way too many variables such as knives, etc.
However, if it comes down to having to use self defence, then I was taught never to go to the ground with an assailant as they're freinds may be round the corner and you'd be outnumbered and vulnerable.
I was taught this by an ex paratrooper, so that makes a lot of sense to be me.
Therefore, I would have to say Judo every time.
If you throw someone hard enough, they are not going to get up in a hurry.
Love the ending lmao. Sick video, Jedi. I am the reverse of you somewhat. I trained Judo for just over 3 years, then a few years later started BJJ. I'm also 3 years deep into BJJ and Judo has definitely given me a massive advantage over most people on the feet, not just people my rank. I think a big part of that is actually understanding grips and my weight distribution. You should stick with it and see what you think! Btw, I sometimes let my opponents try single or double leg me, just so I can grab an overhook and harai goshi their soul into the mat. Please try do this in your next judo video ;)
Lol @ soulz >:]
God damn, why didnt i think of that - also sounds epic
No joke I did judo as a teenager for a couple of years. In my 40s I went mountain biking and crashed on a jump going over the handlebars. Somehow I tucked my head did a front roll and came up on my feet w barely a scratch. Judo saved my life that day.
Similar story: I trained judo for about a year as a kid and vividly remember how I hated the "endless" ukemi we did at warming ups. Fast forward 35 years and I crashed my motorcycle on a slippery road: Had it not been for the ukemi I learned to hate in my younger days, I'd probably be toast.
I did judo for a year and of all the martial arts I've trained, the judo breakfalls have been the biggest asset to my physical safety. I had an identical fall to yours while trying to do a front wheel wheelie and a similar tuck and roll after flying off a trampoline with my legs over my head.
I've heard a lot of stories of judo ukemi saving people on bikes and motorcycles. Then it happened to me on a quad. Add me to the list of those who will vouch for ukemi when riding death traps on wheels.
You never forget your break falls. It's like learning to swim.
Stoked to see you try out judo! Gotta put in the reps bro. Being able to train with other body types is a game changer. If you learn to do uchimata with the same 5'5'' dude its not gonna translate when you go with the 6'2'' person. Btw at 5:01 hes actually going for osoto gari not tai otoshi.
Its pretty cool that you are keeping an open mind and cross training to benefit your BJJ. Judo has a STEEP learning curve and learning it for for BJJ takes A LONG time to get good because the reactions you get from a BJJ guy versus a judo guy is completely different. The BJJ guy will keep their hips back and low to take shots and not grip fight as much, a judoka will stay up right, grip fight, and circle a lot while attacking foot sweeps to set up the big throw. Once you find the balance between both arts you'll have a MASSIVE advantage on the mat. I've done BJJ for 24 years and Judo for about 20 and I'm still trying to figure it out. LOL! Good luck on your journey!
Thats modern style that they stand more upright tho. Before they ban leg attacks it was kinda different.
@tyvonable yeah it made 3 range Judo. But, you get bigger throws now. It's a give in take. Legs will come back.
I’ve found your channel recently after having started BJJ after 7 years of Judo
Uchi mata is the hardest throw in Judo. The reason your throws weren’t working vs the one that did is you didn’t off balance you opponent first - that’s what the warm up drill is for, you’re not just drilling the entry but the kuzushi to off balance your opponent or the technique won’t work - you’re pulling their arms up to get their heels off the floor so they get thrown easily and lightly versus force.
Keep going. Well done - that foot sweep is hard to get.
Also if in close frame your top grip forearm against their chest - it helps you control the distance and stops people getting under you. He used this on you many times when not attacking if you watch
Uchi Mata isn’t that hard
@@JayC07 True, judoka always make things more complicated for some reason.
Uchi mata is definitely one of the hardest throws to pull off. There's a reason you never see it in wrestling or low to mid level judo. You'll see it a lot in BJJ because most BJJ guys can't defend takedowns
@@josephfontelera8881 if you watch high level Judo you actually see it all the time. It’s a high percentage technique which as stated in the video is a hip technique, not a leg technique.
Even if you don’t hit it, the entry usually leads to some secondary attacks. It’s quite safe generally speaking. To get it right and pull it off at a moment notice. It’s definitely hard to do well.
There’s a few different ways of doing it, but against a BJJ person with a low stance, if you can get in deep with your step it’s very likely you’ll catch them. It’s not judo people making things harder. Done right it IS harder. Ken-Ken uchimata less so, but you’ll struggle to pull that off without athleticism against someone good who doesn’t over commit their weight, which a good judoka won’t
I would politely disagree that uchi mata is not the hardest throw to learn in judo. There are many factors involved in how "hard" a throw is to learn in judo. Some factors may include your body and its mechanics, as well as the coach (or coaches) you are learning uchi mata from. Other factors can be the size, shape and experience of your training partner(s) and the consistency in which you choose or receive the opportunity to practice certain techniques, like uchi mata.
What might be a "hard" throw for you to learn, could be "easy" for someone else to learn. So, perhaps for you, uchi mata has been one of, or maybe the hardest throw in judo for you to do, personally.
I have been training in judo for over 14 years, and coaching judo for six or seven years, being one of the coaches at the club I'm at. Uchi mata is my favourite throw, as I am a fairly tall person (6'3 / 193cm) with long legs. In the past, I always found uchi mata difficult to do, and to be absolutely honest, my former coaches at my previous club were not good at uchi mata, and because they rarely performed it during their 'judo careers', they did not quite know how to do and teach uchi mata to others. They very much favoured other techniques, like seoi nage.
About seven or eight years ago, we had a guest coach from another state run a weekend training camp (or seminar) and he is a 6th dan red and white belt. He showed me a different way to do uchi mata, and his way to do uchi mata was quite beneficial for someone with long legs, someone like me. I loved this variation, felt comfortable doing it, and have been doing it ever since.
My former coaches are very "old school". They strictly believe (or believed, I don't know if they've changed their mind) that kuzushi (breaking one's balance) means pulling someone up on their toes toward you. With respect, this is not entirely true, it's not so black and white.
"Kuzushi" literally means "to level, pull down, destroy or demolish". In a judo sense, it is indeed breaking someone's balance, forcing them to become unbalanced, but this can be achieved in many ways, not just one. For example, if you were to grip someone, force their head to the side (so the top of their head was effectively facing a wall) and their spine becomes somewhat curved similar to an upside down 'L', then their posture is broken, and so is their balance. They are now vulnerable. Without going into too much detail (and it might sound weird) but this is how I utilise my uchi mata.
While there are many throws in judo, there are many different ways to do said throws. When it comes to formal demonstration for the purpose of belt grading/promotion, you would usually have to showcase throws in their original or traditional manner (which can seriously suck, I am terrible at the "traditional" uchi mata) but when it comes to randori (free practice, fighting/sparring) and/or shiai (competition), you can do a throw in whatever way you feel comfortable (as long as it's within the rules of judo competition, of course). Furthermore, while there are many throws in judo, a judoka (judo practitioner) will probably only be "really good" at a select few, say three or five throws.
Great video, I've been training Judo with some of my friends who are national and international competitors, I feel it's helped my BJJ game dramatically. Thanks for the free content!
I do a lot of judo, cause there is no Jiujitsu were I live, we focus 50/50 between ground work and throws which is awesome, nice to see some judo content I’m sure it can really change up someone’s jiujitsu game
I trained in Judo for about 4 years, than wrestled for 2 in high school. I’ll let you know right now having the background in this 2 definitely help in BJJ. I’m able to do a lot of takedowns and throws that my classmates don’t even know about, let alone how to defend
Pretty much the same for me. I was a blue belt when I started high school wrestling and... let's say they didn't like me. Wrestlers don't expect to be thrown hard -- as there is no point advantage in doing so. Then again, there was no point in doing so in wrestling competitions other than to stun them for a pin. I kept focusing on Judo, competed at national levels. Wrestling was still good training -- fitness, no-gi training, learning to face folks who fight in that defensive stance, etc.
The way you absorb information and learn new" jutsu",I think you would definitely benefit from Judo. I would love to see you practice more Judo and integrate it with your jiu-jitsu.. Another great video sir! 🙏✌️
There's a reason that Rickson and Renzo have BB in judo. Good training
Been training Judo for over a decade along with BJJ, the standup and gripping for Judo can really help you dictate the pace of the set. Really cool video and I see you like sweeps, figure out your partner's timing and you can really launch your attack from there...
That ending man. Best vid so far! 🤣🤣
Also some nice pointers on the judo throw. Great content!
I do pure no-gi BJJ now, but got my start in Judo. Learned a lot of Greco-Roman ties to help be able to set up my throws in a no-gi setting. You'd be surprised what can be accomplished against much better wrestlers when you have a good sense of leverage.
Your videos are so entertaining and it's really helpful hearing the advice you give. Cheers man, keep it up and thanks so much for all your effort!
As a Judoka first love this. Quality as always Jedi! Rock on!
Respect!! Getting out of your comfort zone to be more explosive and really going for throws is exciting!!
BJJ = Kosen Judo = The Judo that was "lost" when it started becoming a sport - for the most part. I love it.
Had me chuckling through this whole video. Love the Judo content, as well as the sims background music!
Judo for the sake of judo is very different than judo for bjj for the mere fact of grip and posture. Uchi mata is the king of all throws in my opinion every competent judoka has some variation of uchi mata in their game. But I suggest learning a good very solid Koshi guruma and ogoshi before learning straight up uchi mata since it’s a pendulum technique (in others words has complex body mechanics to have a really good one) tip on judo techniques kozuchi (off balance pulling motion) is everything with good strong kozuchi your already 50% there to throwing someone next time you try judo focus on the pull more than anything else and you’ll see how the rest comes naturally
Great video Jedi
Percentage wise osoto then ouchi are the most successful throws for ippon
Love the content, but you brought the wrong belt to the Judo Dojo. Unless you've earned it, stick to white to show respect. Imagine the confusion of someone pulling up with a yellow/orange/green Judo belt at your BJJ practice.
Awesome stuff Jedi. We have some high level judokas at our academy. Pays dividends to keep those grips for sure
I just found your channel and honestly you're very entertaining
Awesome. Judo was my first martial art at about 13 years old. So glad I took this first because it's very hard on the body but I loved it. I'm 39 now and I've competed nationally in TKD tournaments and open martial arts tournaments as well as Marine corps martial arts when I was in which made that a lot easier since I did Judo primarily. Awesome video.
Judy,you’re great! And open mind,I had learned from you,that always we learn something new. I am judoka,since I was 11 years old.Now in mine 61,everything is changed😊congratulations!
You do great explaining each movement and the reasoning
Stoked that you finally mastered Judo homie. On to the next!
Love ya work Jedi 🙏🏼
Jedi appreciate your video, continue your Judo practice. 6 months from now your training Partners will be catching hell
I coach judo at my bjj gym and I was waiting for jedi to just go "yeah this shit is frustrating", love seeing some sticky foot action there
You're such a cool guy. Building your style and pushing your boundaries. The modern Martial Artist.
I love it when BJJ guys come to Jduo . . . and in turn I go to BJJ classes . . . they complement each other so well.
I feel like judo is good grappling art for self defence. Grips on clothes are a really hard thing to deal with and being able to yeet people to the ground while remaining standing yourself seems more useful than a wrestling takedown.
Joe is a good pal and a great judoka. We bumped heads back in the day. You did great for an non-judoka.
Nice use of similies and metaphors in this one.
Evry judoka laughing when the Randori was happening and and o Soto is mixed up for a Ty otoshy 🤣 had me laughing for ever this was still a great video however as love seeing the bjj guys going back to the roots and learn the og version of there stile
As a Judo Purple belt and BJJ Blue (and almost purple) I got to say.. it takes a long time to master takedowns, maybe thousands of repetitions to really get good in one or two. Uchi Mata is also very difficult in BJJ due to the long and long posture, it is not something I try often. Leg sweeps (ashis) and Drop Morote/Seoi work good.
Awesome to see you trying Judo! One thing to note is that, while it is important to establish your grips first, it's equally important to establish the RIGHT grips first. If you grip first but you grip with the wrong side, its worse than having no grips at all. For example, let's take a right handed judoka vs another right handed judoka. I'm a righty, so I've trained to turn to the left to execute all my throws, for a leftie, its the opposite. So if I'm fighting a leftie as a righty, and I instantly get a grip with my rear hand, I'm going to be thrown. While I did establish my grip first, because I gripped with the wrong side, it doesn't actually stop my opponent from turning to the right (the direction all his turning throws are trained in), I'm also attaching myself and basically giving him the throw.
Griping first is extremely important! But remember to grip in accordance to your opponent!
I like how Jedi was so proud of himself when he hit the 6 ft 12 joke 😂. My man been waiting for this moment forever
Those videos are so well done wtf man
Nice job Jedi my belt cousin! I am looking forward to some more videos!
Great video! I learned and laughed.😂
interesting to watch. I did a traditional Japanese style of Jiu-jitsu with loads of throwing but was different from Judo. For example a hip throw in JJJ rather than using your leg to sweep and tucking their arm, you would bend at the knees and get your hip outside their hip, tucking their arm into your grip and reaching around them. Another thing is rather than grips you would use strikes to loosen your opponent for the throw.
Love the ending BTW
Great video man.
Judo is easily the most visually appealing of the grappling arts. I always wondered if Judo had more of a no gi presence if it would be more popular.
ehm, but no-gi judo exists and is called ... freestyle wrestling
@@pycckieBnepeg you mean greco roman
@@DGold109 it would be graeco-roman, if legs were allowed to be attacked by legs in there. so judo is something in between graeco-roman and freestyle wrestling.
hahahah this is probably youir best and most entertaining video ever. Loved it! All of it, especially the e
Especially what? I think you posted this comment before you finished it.
The ending earned yourself a new subscriber 😂😂😂
dude, for a first time class you had a REALLY good aplication of what you learned, if you keep practicing it will be really good for your JJ!!
New to BJJ (5-6 classes) and Orange belt in judo. Man judo gives me such an adventage standing. Love the JUDO/BJJ combination. You just have to learn what works on BJJ. Or no gi.
MA BOOIIIII, nothing beats you commentaries. 🤣
Thanks for the luv
The ending of the video was superb!
Yo! as a judo guy this video was troll and funny as hell! Subscribed. Also, old mate wasn't going for a tai otoshi but an osoto gari.
I’ll have to brush up on my anime 😆
Just stumbled by this channel. Loved the video, hope they continue be like this. Newly Subscribed at the moment. You look like my older brother a lot. I mean a lot lol.
hahahah loved the end! Awesome mate
Never stop ending your videos this way 😂
These were great! I was looking for a judo gym around where I live but there aren’t any in my city 🥺🥺🥺 I’m looking to learn stronger takedowns. Looks like I’ll need to train some wrestling instead. I love the ending by the way! Great stuff!!! 😂😂😂😂
I'd NEVER mess with a good Judoka. The man will hit you with a planet.
I will never forget that ending🤣
I'm now a yellow belt in judo, you were definitely better than me on my first day! Good job! 🥳
Also that's a quote I want on my tombstone, "people always say that I end things to abruptly, so this time I'm gonna-"
he's a bjj brown belt, he knows a bit of judo
He has more experience than you in Tachi waza.
It's great seeing you give Judo a try, and I'm resisting the want to "um, actually" what you called some of the throws and terms.
One thing to add here....in judo you can stand up straight and not worry about those take down that BJJ usually use such as single leg or double leg because that is a perfect setup for a counter using tomonage. Judo has such a massive repertoire of take downs and counters that the BJJ practitioners not aware of and they always are surprised about it.
When I was competing as an athlete we had standing submissions and leg grabs in Judo (in fact, single and double leg takedowns are judo throws, Kuchiki-taoshi and Morote Gari, respectively). It was only in 2012 that the rules changed. There are a few things guys can get away with now that they couldn't with leg grabs (over-committing the hip or forward leg, for instance) but correct posture was just as important then as now. I don't miss flying juji gatame that's for sure. Hopefully you stick with it and find some techniques that transition well into your ne waza (ground game). In our club (we have both disciplines) we see far too many BJJ students showing up for one or two judo classes before a tournament and then lamenting that none of it worked. It can take years to master a handful of throwing techniques, and even more time to master gripping, movement, and positioning. The throw is really the easiest part.
As a white belt sandbagger Judoka, everything you said was correct 💯
@@heliomachit5651 Ha! Our sixth Dan keeps making jokes that he is a "no-stripe white belt" in BJJ. He is a savage in ne waza. I'd rather get thrown by him for ippon than go to the ground with him. I'll just tap out thank you very much!
Flying scissors was brutal too
Key takeaway judo takes years of dedicated study to master against unwilling opppnent. It's infinitely harder than ground work. There's weight to take care of and balance. It's off the charts coordination, athleticism. Bjj is a tiny subset of the parent judo. Case closed.
@@bobk480 kani basame was before my time!
Purely liking because of the abrupt end 😂
U did it again 🤣🤣🤣, abruptly ended the video!😂😂😂.
Okay, when you are rolling in BJJ, the issue is that he isn't put in a position where he could conceivably fall anyway. He's completely balanced and you are shooting your leg in in hope. Work less on the trip and more on establishing kusushi. A trip is a finisher to kusushi, not the opening movement. Great stuff.
Amazing. Also appreciate the CIV 6 Spain theme.
Explode into your moves, make them come out of nowhere. Also you want to push them or direct them towards the opposite side you are trying to throw them, once you feel them countering it, explode into your throw into the opposite direction using the other guys momentum for your adventage.
I'm liking this little experiment, how about a handful of more judo lessons then enter in an orange belt tournament with your mates at the judo club and see how you go. You don't need to stand upright you can go bad judo stance as long as you attack for a pretend throw then clean them up on the ground.
Potentially a future video
That ending !!! Love it
"but on a good day I'm 6'12"😂 love that energy!
"And just like the last lap dance I got, I ran out of time." Bwhahahaha 🤣 New subscriber 👍🏽
First Lift up your opponent’s right arm with your left arm, pulling away from your opponents right toward your outer left, to open up for tai otoshi. You also forgot to drop below your opponent’s center of gravity. I’ve been a Judoka since 1967. Try a combination of a feigned inside foot sweep on his right foot, his pulls the foot away which opens him up to many right-sided techniques including tai otoshi. Fun video!
That ending was epic! 😂
osoto is the throw he went for, not ti otoshi
Okay I wasn't the only one thinking that
I'm bjj purple belt and I also practice Sambo from some months. In my opinion in Judo and Sambo timing is very very important. Technique is effective if is done at the right moment with the correct weight distribution of you related of your opponent. I hope you will do other similar video where you explore other martial arts with the aims to improve your jiujitsu. And I think also
Best video ending to date.
Great video! A decent response to single leg attempts, is to counter with ma sumtemi: sumi gaeshi.
Literally scoot yourself forward, and sit on your bum directly downwards, throwing uke over the top of you. You use the leg this have as leverage against the inside of their leg.
Brilliant ending!
Your video ideas are refreshing in the BJJ world. You combine your creativity with BJJ. My kids love your kids. You can start your own series for kids. Keep it up.
Fun video man... Thanks.
Recent content has been funny asf with the commentary
I caught that uno reverse in there, cheeky bastard.
nailed the outro.
The ending 😂😂another great video jedi!
If someone takes a wrestling stance against you in the gi you take a deep over the back grip and launch them. Its such a strong grip you have complete control of their posture..even if they shoot on you you just sumi them over your head. There were leg grabs( i.e. single and double legs, firemans etc.) in judo until 2008 and the judo stance was still way more upright because there are so many strong grips over the back (that don't exist in no gi) and giving them up is such a big disadvantage.
You can see that Judoka was being very respectful, as they all seem to do,
ending made me lol, thanks bro
Great effort!
That "tai otoshi" you are attempting and that was attempted on you is actually a "ko-soto-gari."
Tai = body
Otoshi = drop
ko = minor
soto = outside
gari = sweep
Remember to get your hips close and under and then use your leg! Keep trying!
Great ending. Smooth...
The ending was perfection.
For jiu jitsu I would say working on drop seio nage or better yet drop o soto gari is probably a good idea, especially at the beginning because these techniques that take way less time to master and are farely easy to pull off against people with very little experience in judo or sambo.
The ending was gold
As always, great stuff. And for those that can’t read between the lines, I think you have a red state kind of mind.
Conclusion was smooth af
Never realised just how different Judo is from stand up BJJ. The key difference is not even noted and that is the use of the grip to break balance and set up throws. Ju is about accommodating or harmonising with the opponent such that the opponents own movements are used to create opportunities, think of using your grip to turn your opponents leg grab into your uchimata.
Still a white belt in BJJ and no experience with Judo so maybe I just haven't learned/practiced this yet but did anyone notice their hands during the grip fighting around 2:30. Jedi has wide open karate hands/claws while Otoguro keeps more of a loose fist shape. It seems like the coach's hands would prevent finger jams and snags while jabbing in and out on attacks and would also minimize the distance the hand must open/close to secure the grip. Are there any good instructionals out there on grip battling before the grip is secured?
You got the like for the logan and coffee reference😂😂😂
The ending was gold 😂
You have to off balance the guy before going for throws and trips. Danaher teaches this beautifully in feet to floor. Use your superior grips to move your opponents head and center of mass off the axis of his base of support
Definitely more room for improvement
@@jedidoesjiujitsu3177 stance, grip, movement, KAZUSHI then throw. If their head is behind base of support throw them backward, if it’s forward throw them forward. Side to side you have a light foot and a heavy foot. Sweep the light foot or attack the heavy foot with some power