How does the upcoming Chinese supercarrier compare?
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This video goes in depth on the newest Chinese carrier, the 003, now close to being launched. How does it compare to the US carrier, like the USS Ford? And how much of an improvement is it over previous Chinese carriers?
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politics aside, people just love huge boats
It's a shame carriers are modern capital ships, the battleships of the 1920s-50s were so much more beautiful.
I served on the USS Enterprise, I still have an affection towards it. We weren't as big as Nimitiz, but we were longer :-). I have to hand it to China, they've come a long way since the 60's. Though it is strange they rolling back some of the reforms of Deng. Stamping out burgeoning private enterprise may hurt them in the long run.
@@Reyeoux agree
@@Reyeoux so true
@@Reyeoux More beautiful, but unfortunately not fit for modern warfare.
Very well said. China is still a long way behind the US Navy, but is far ahead of what it used to be, and ahead of its neighbors. And it is developing fast.
@@geoffwalters3662 China is not a pariah state outside of the US. See belt and road initiative.
@@ACR909 The day will come when the countries with any form of ties with China will start to break the hell out of the buisness or gonna be eaten by them. China is going big, and to achieve it they have to broaden their sphere of influence, by economics or by force, just like every country with hegemonic ambitions did throughout the history.
@@geoffwalters3662 I don’t think China is becoming a pariah state. It’s more or less a dictatorship I agree, but to ignore its growing influence is unwise.
You forget by later this decade the 004 will be built and launched and will be using molten salt nuclear reactors
@@marcozolo3536 and how do you know that
They’re taking baby steps but the message is clear:
We can do whatever you can do.
001：It's a toy of Navy
003： China is still a long way behind the US Navy, but is far ahead of what it used to be, and ahead of its neighbors. And it is developing fast.
005: .....
Maybe it’s fling in the sky?
Big fan at 6:43 of carts just getting yeeted by carrier catapults into the sea
Cart go brrrrrrrr
Citroen commercial be like
Arma 3 in a nutshell
lol yeet. Probably they do this to the cook when he burns t he Won-tons also
We need more carts Johnson, and faster. I want 100 carts per hour on these bad boys.
I'm assuming this new Chinese carrier is specifically a carrier in design and does not double as a missile cruiser as the Russian based one does.
2 likes? :-O
only the russian Kuznetsov has antiship missiles (P-700 Granit) and is designated as an "aircraft-carrying cruiser" ,because only this way (under the Montreux Convention), the ship is allowd to transit the turkish Straits.
the chinese 001 liaoning (initially a kuznetsov class) was completed as an aircraft carrier, and cruise missiles were never installed.
the 002 shandong is also simply an aircraft carrier.
@@vasopel Thanks for the correction.
@@1977Yakko ;-) although you now have 9 likes, so it seems that it is a common misconception people make :-O edit: it's up to 36 likes? Lmao! Edit 2: 330 likes?? Where do people get their mis-information?? :-(
@Grand Master the US does not have a "Battleship" or "battle cruiser" class ship. Also the Kutnetsov is not an "all purpose"or "fight everything" class ship. US missile cruisers are a hard counter as they can retreat while simultaneously attacking the pursuing ship which the other can't counter(like being able to shoot on horseback a pursing enemy while they attempt to catch your horses retreat). Even destroyers could encircle the ship if it tried an all out simultaneous attack with aircraft/missiles/guns/torpedoes because no ship can remain stationary or continuously move forward by itself. Look at the battle of Midway for examples of Japanese carriers changing armaments mid fight to anti-air from anti-surface and carriers being used offensively like destroyers only to use the guns making a huge, lumbering gunship that might temporarily work but is outmaneuvered.
Is the Russian carrier still in Dry dock? Think it’s been there for years. Last I checked the dock was sinking lol?
Great video I've been waiting for information on that vessel. Thank you
These docs are very well thought out and structured. I totally agree with this assessment.
Just imagine. 50 years ago you'd be risking your life getting this footage out. But here we are....layin' back, looking at military weapons specs from our phones, more concerned with what snacks are in the kitchen 😅
Exactly 🙃
Oh shit my joint is still 🔥 lmao
What a time to be alive😂
The Chinese are decades behind the West.
love too steal
Not only Binkov speculates with all the possible conflicts, he more importantly keeps us all up to date on what's happening in this world.
Is speculation worth the time and effort?
@@galenhaugh3158 It is fundamental. War games scenarios cover every contingency that a force can imagine. All these scenarios form the reference guidelines library in case of conflict. There are full departments spending their time asking "what if" questions. Most of these scenarios are tested during exercises and filed for eventual contingencies. As for Blinkov, our host, he may as well keep some distance and remain journalistic. This makes the difference between a fanboy channel and an objective informational one.
Contingencies and preparations are two different things. It is like day and night. Contingency involves drawing up scenarios to a possible conflict. Preparation, on the other hand, deals primarily with equipping military forces with the necessary means to overcome a conflict in the event of a full scale war. This is covered in Military Science 101.😁👍
@@tshavfengvang7831 Bravo. Do you know the meaning of contingency? You have an extremely narrow point of view and enjoy stomping on people which makes you an asshole.
@@mikecimerian6913 Yes, I know what contingency is. You can prepare for all contingencies you want, but in the real world, contigency don't help you win a war. Check out the Civil War and you know what I meant. The South had the largest assembly of men (largest forces) and the best generals. The Confederates had Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson and they knew all the rules of engagement and warfare tactics. They won many battles against the Union forces yet they lost the war. Why? Truly, the odds were on the Confederate's side but the Union pushed harder, had more guts, and better equipments to mobilize. They were able to turn the tide and that is where you and I are standing today. General Ulysses S. Grant was known as an ass but he sure kicked butts if you know what I mean.
They made it !!!
They had launch today 👀
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Always so concise. Great content!
3:50 Seeing the old USS Enterprise in such a limbo of deconstruction is heartbreaking.
CVN-80 will bring her legacy back to the fleet.
There is another Enterprise coming. But yeah a lot of the history with the old Enterprise. I've seen it a few times when it was deployed.
USS Ford: Don't worry E, you will be back, a New Shell, New Capabilities, New Number, but the Same old Spirit and Name
USS Enterprise: Thanks Ford, means a lot, especially now.
USS Ford: Give it time E, it will be finished in due time
well the good news it's an Enterprise, just wait a bit for the next one haha
That ship needs to be in a museum.
All technical information
No political bs
Love u binkov
socialist slaughter everyone everywhere equally...
@@reserva120 Equality XD
@@reserva120 Yeah, because Makhnovists, Catalonians, Zapatistas and Kurds slaughtered so many people. Moron.
Aight time to start a political war in this comment. Here it goes...
*Forbidden cursed political words with obvious opinions and racist comments.*
@@reserva120 No western European nations are currently slaughtering anyone and haven't done so for a very long time...
The speed of the construction is also something worth noting, the ship could not have been laid down the latest by 2017. So a construction speed of 4 years is pretty amazing and that with this being their first catapult carrier and with Covid-19 raging.
It doesn't compare, and it shouldn't be compared. China has a completely opposite doctrine and set of circumstances. Its needs are totally different in every aspect of its military.
@Luke Jonah Samuel Matthew australia? you fking joking?
@Luke Jonah Samuel Matthew Curb your nationalism dude.
Without outside support Australia would fall to a Chinese invasion in a few weeks.
@Luke Jonah Samuel Matthew its not ww2 they burn yours in yours home with some hypersonic hydrogen bomb.its not hot as Deserts of Australia under the sun.its hoter than core of sun.
China's doctrine seems to be "amass military power until we can call the shots"
@Luke Jonah Samuel Matthew out of all counties, Australia. Hahahahaha
Great video. Don’t feel bad about missing your deadline, keep up the great quality
What I don’t understand is the rumors are 004 will be a Ford size nuclear powered carrier. It would make more sense to build at least two 003 before taking that step. It seems to me 003 is well suited for it’s mission.
Agreed. Start small and learn lots. Especially if they are still developing carrier based aircrafts jumping to build a bigger carrier is going more problems than not
Much of China's trade routes pass through the Indian Ocean and if China expands it's military capabilities into the Indian Ocean, India will be surrounded on all sides by China or it's allies. This is why China supports Pakistan and Myanmar's military junta. China also has it's first overseas base in east Africa which will be able to serve as a base for Chinese ships that come across the Indian Ocean. China wants to project power and influence while isolating it's rivals. No different than the USA.
004 is rumoured to be a 003 with nuclear power. The extra capacity is from reduced need for fuel storage. 003 is already Ford size, the couple meters here or there are insignificant. It's the logical step in China's iterative development.
@@chaosXP3RT it doesn’t make sense for them to support Myanmar’s military junta especially since the government it overthrew was way cozier with China.
The military is more anti China.
I suspect China is concentrating on development rather than on mission. In part because of the costs of these ships I doubt that China will produce more than one of any design until they feel like it can go toe-to-toe with the American equivalent.
Very informative video, alot of details!
Impressive. Looking forwards to seeing what they achieve in the coming years.
Invasion of Taiwan maybe...there were rumors back in 2018 about a planned invasion of Taiwan in 2020 but COVID-19 might have delayed that plan for a bit, then again China wasn't as heavily affected as the rest of the world
A planned invasion of the Republic of China, interesting.
@@andracoz militarily Taiwan is in a really bad shape, but then again Taiwan straight is keeping the invasion force as well as logistics at bay
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One of your best videos. I liked the hangar, deck and launch details.
And remember: Binkov may talk about hypothetical wars but only real peace can bring us all together!
I disagree, war also bring nations together and realize its mistakes.
Maybe the real peace was the Geneva Convention violations we made along the way...
War brings peace and it's not optional
@Pro Tengu
Why? I just said people will come together just to defeat a common enemy once they realized it, i didn't neccessarily want war to start, at least for now.
@Pro Tengu
I agree to your latest 2 response
You should look into Type 076, i.e. a magnetic catapult equipped mini carrier, which will be the complimentary of the Chinese fleet.
If it’s anything like the Merchant ships their yards pump out it will be pretty sub standard.
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Fantasy of nailing Bin Laden. Poor thing died in 2001 of kidney failure, those brave navy seals were just actors.
I think all of it was just a lie.
@@jerryjencik3879 Bin Laden was killed then. You felt victim to a conspiracy theory.
@@tepidcos2009 Shut up, conspiracy theorist.
@@jerryjencik3879 Compare 1930s Nazi Germany Vs 2020s Communist Chinazi IN YOUR NEXT VIDEO Project.
Would love to see a futuristic drone only carrier with all the drones stored inside the carrier sort of like the sci fi shows/movies.
Perhaps an Arsenal Ship with the hundreds of vertical launch systems reconfigured to launch tomahawk missile style kamikaze drones.
Being submersible is bonus points.
Check out the Type 076 Landing Helicopter Dock
It probably exists already tbh
@@QuantumAscension1 south korea wants to do something like that
Now that they've surprised everyone by proving they're actually able to build carriers, they must now surprise everyone by quickly developing the experience needed to operate them effectively. One thing for sure though, nobody can play catch up quite like the Chinese! They'll catch up to anything... fast!!
Chinese knew that they can't match US Navy, specially aircraft carriers. their real focus is space program including nuclear weapon from outer space, missile program and AI. those traditional military equipment like aircraft carrier is more for small neighbors.
Really enjoy your reports!
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Quite a typical scheme
a lot of great footage in the video 🙂
cant wait to see it coming
Regardless of the performance of this ship. China has almost completed the construction of two first aircraft carriers from 14 years to now. And India's first aircraft carrier nearly 10 years have not been built to complete. Because China is currently the world's largest ship manufacturer. There is this industrial base to complete the construction.
Nice video mr.Binkov!
My political opinions aside, I admit that this ship is a very good looking one.
It reminds me that warships are the pride of nations, beasts made of steel, and kings of the ocean.
Those who say we don't need aircraft carriers if we have submarines are lacking in romanticism.
Yeah god help those submarines when enemy planes blows them out of water without anyway for them to fire back, subs can't do anti air.
@Pro Tengu they are probably lacking brain power, for saying that about aircraft carriers.
The development of Chinese carriers are extremely practical while we Chinese military fans couldn't help brewing romanticism out of this.😂
@@user-sx2we1xe5q yea It has to be an absolute privilege.
I don't believe meaningful for our country's navy to have a carrier, but...if it exists......I would take a vacation and pay good money to go see it.
@Grand Master Some men marry to men in the US. Anything about love is acceptable and should be tolerated~😉
Where does Binkov store all this information!? Incredible.
A dummy
Great thanks .
So the PLA has 2 operational carriers , for 4 more years +- .
How many does the USA have ?
I love how no matter what the video is, the comments are always terrible. Its just a shouting match between armchairs.
Actually your wrong
Welcome to yt.
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@B J just wait for the 50 cents army
@@tunguska2370 didnt you see the taliban just got some new us gear
Wait till they produce 4 more carriers - the 007 will be legendary, and even seduce enemy ships.
lol
There are a lot of things China has seen and copied, they cannot create new ideas, so if they can’t win with numbers, they can’t win. Naval war is a whole other level, if China can’t use its supply ships, the carrier stops. Arguably the most important ship in the fleet is the supply ship. And while I’m at it, if the carrier China makes looks like a Ford, you can bet they used satellite images to design it. Unless America sold them the plans somehow.
Lmao
@@f1reguy587 What do you expect an aircraft carrier to look like? Carriers tend to look like other carriers regardless of their country of origin. Military equipment always look alike. Jets, tanks, ships, artillery,, helicopters etc etc. No country designs their equipment based on photographs of some other countries equipment. But there are basic design elements in any piece of equipment. All carriers have flat tops. All jets have wings, All tanks have a turret and tracks. American equipment is not unique and you don't have a copyright on a basic design. Nations have been building carriers to this design since the 1930's. The only thing that really changes was they got a lot bigger. So why don't you give up on the "They copied us" rubbish. Because if that is the case then everyone must be copying everyone else.
@@f1reguy587 well you know there’s cyber hacking and industrial espionage and bribery. That’s how they’ve copied lots of F-35 stuff. What Binkov fails to mention the amount of pilots the Chinese have been losing on the 002 due to accidents.
Well put together, concise, well researched, the implications of this significant development for the PRC Navies enhanced operational potential is well developed. Thank you for the many hours you invested in the creation of this superb video! A+. Poty Mouth Mike, San Antonio, Texas.
You've gained a subscriber sir.. great content. Also your.accent is spectacular
At this rate, we will see a Chinese 007 soon.
The names 007 Variants, Wuhu Variants.
Looking @ Ford vs 003, Ford has Twice the Options of flying Discretionary & Flexible Aircraft + Nuclear propulsion?
The significance of China's 003 carrier is its CATAPULT EMALS system installed in a conventional power carrier. China's EMALS system is powered by high-medium voltage with DC current, not AC, thanks to China's engineer, Ma Weiming. As the carrier is run by conventional power and it's AC current is not powerful enough to propel tons of load. Hence, China is the first country using DC current to propel a EMALS system. While the Ford carrier has run into numerous problems with its EMALS system, it's said that China has thoroughly tested its EMALS system on land before installing it in the 003 carrier.
actually voltage stability has been a issue on the ford. it is why it hasn't been able to operate all it EMALS at the same time.
The way, we're seeing Ford's data, we won't see 003's data. It's good but still at the end of the day, you have to just believe what they say.
@@mnd7381 we know the science behind them. it is easier to control DC power than AC, it why our computer run on DC. US attempt to draw power directly from the AC bus will have problem. they are trying to save on weight by sharing the bus, but this means if there is a power issue with another part of the ship, the EMALS will has to deal with the power instability, there is no buffer. it is not that US cannot fix the problem, it their design choice to skip a step and believe their integrated power system can support everything, whereas because the chinese don't have IPS, they can build a dedicated DC power system that is not affected by the rest of the ship.
EMALs is nothing more than an overglorified high-speed/maglev rail for accelerating planes instead of maglev/bullet trains. If you can build a high speed rail system, you can already build an EMALs. It's not surprising that the PLAN can incorporate EMALs rather quickly.
@@mnd7381 China EMALS system gets its power from the DC electricity source. This is the major difference between China's 003 and th the US Ford. This is the first in the world. The Ford's electric source is from it AC power, not DC
From the perspective of China's interest, do you think that the deck of the current two aircraft carriers is changed to the ejection takeoff way or sell to other countries in need? If sell it to others, which country do you think in such strength and interest?
Considering how much of a leap this carrier is I wouldn't be surprised if it has significant teething issues.
Especially catapults, both steam and EMALs are difficult to get right.
@@kdrapertrucker yep and the Kutzenov doesn't have catapults just the ski jump so they are going to have new technology teething problems and crew training problems since they don't have any sailors with experience dealing with catapults besides ones built on land. Not that we'll ever know it, can't risk China loosing face lol
3:51 wait that's the Enterprise!
For some reason I thought they were already finished with scrapping it XD
It may be old footage of the ship
The Type 003 aircraft carrier had a larger deck area than the Ford class aircraft carrier
The width of the dock is 82 meters, or the yellow baffle is 82 meters. By comparison, the width of carrier 003 is greater than 82 meters, the length is 332 meters, and the length of the island is 41 meters
Last deployment the Ronald Reagan found out the Chinese carrier only did 9 sorties a day( sorties is when you launch a jet btw) so the Reagan did 198 sorties that same day
@Advait Kolhatkar ： so what? China sucessfully launched Mars mission and did orbiting and landing and rover in a one go. They did not have any experience about Mars mission
The US is using Reagan to supervise Chinese carrier…?
It's a fishing boat with the flight deck, the plane is used to drop the fishing net.
Don't worry about these peaceful floating wood.
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Chinese navy is made of only CGI! - Some Hindutva probably
Oh, good to know!
@rise infinite no 1 menace to fishermen worldwide
@rise infinite
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This is a fair assessment of the Chinese carrier 003. I want to add that US operated its first carrier, the Langley, in 1910's. China is over 100 years late. Credit must be given to its achievement.
China has many more dry docks than US. It is building the 3rd 055 destroyer (12,000 tons), haft a frozen of 054E destroyers, 4 light destroyers for Pakistan and many commerical vessels. The tonnage of the last mentioned exceeds
both Korea and Japan.
Don't say that China is not doing her best.
No one can out- build China.
The 8th 055 is already complete hull wise.
I am thrilling to see a real fight in between the two battle groups to see who is better.
The PLA has shown that it usually modernises it's weapons and equipment starting from the basic original type, then building small numbers of improved versions, before testing various combinations of Chinese and foreign weapons, sensors, propulsion systems, etc, and often buying a few foreign types to be used both as operational weapons and sources of new technologies.
Then several competing design's are sometimes built around the same time before the best design is improved and built in large numbers, with improved versions being regularly developed.
The PLA Navy used the designs of the Kiev and Minsk bought as tourist attractions from Russia, the Liaoning bought only half completed, and officially classed as a Training and Operational Ship, the Shandong and the Type 075 LSH helicopter carriers built in China to the CV 003 class.
The same process can be seen in the PLA's tanks, helicopters, SAMs, AAM's, DDG destroyers and FFG frigates and many other cases.
Could you make a video like that about the next French nuclear aircraft carrier? It could be pretty interessing
Or better still, diesel powered submarines!
It is not just about having fancy equipment. It is also about the experience, training, skill, and knowledge of those who use the equipment, and in that aspect, the USA is second to none.
Totally agree, I might argue second to one though ;)
Yeah you can see that from the problems the Chinese have had operating their Russian clone carriers and attrition rate on pilots.
The US Navy went through a lot of pilots and planes when the Navy started transitioning to jets in the 1950s. It took till the 70s-80s to bring the aircraft mishap rate down. Still, operating an aircraft carrier is dangerous and expensive business. It the US decades to get where it is today.
They should learn how to evacuate people first. The VP just came to Singapore to seek help in the evacuation.
@@adminit3444 No she didn’t.... The VP is in Singapore as part of a long scheduled South East Asian tour, her purpose for traveling there had nothing to do with “seeking help” with the Kabul flight lift.
And for what it’s worth, the US airforce is the largest and most powerful in the world today, they have more than enough aircraft and personnel, along with access to, by far, the largest fleet of civilian commercial aircraft that can be temporarily requisitioned if needed. No other nation has even close to the capability to organise what the US is currently managing to do, the chaos and disorganisation seen on the news is mainly down to the complete breakdown of authority in Kabul, leading to thousands of Afghan’s who are not eligible for any of the flights and have no real prospect of being evacuated but have still flooded to the airport anyway, making it extremely difficult for those who do.
As usual great job on the video. When he was talking about the 2 carriers; I was thinking where is the tug boat? The reason why I was thinking about this was due to the fact of Russia's aircraft carrier breaking down at sea and being towed back to port. 🤣
Be safe and be 😎
A typical carrier air wing can include 24-36 F/A-18E or F Super Hornets as strike fighters; two squadrons of 10-12 F/A-18C Hornets, with one of these often provided by the U.S. Marine Corps (VMFA), also as strike fighters; 4-6 EA-18G Growlers for electronic warfare; 4-6 E-2C or D Hawkeyes for airborne early warning (AEW), C-2 Greyhounds used for logistics (to be replaced by MV-22 Ospreys); and a Helicopter Antisubmarine Squadron of 6-8 SH-60F and HH-60H Seahawks. They can carry a maximum of 85-90 aircraft of mixed types
I think the PLAN has come remarkably far in a short time but the real strength of a modern carrier depends on its air group. I also don't think this capability isn't aimed at the US but rather is seen by the Chinese as expeditionary capability for resource protection when inevitably they start obtaining oil from the Middle East.
I think the Chinese military strategy is to insure the sovereignty over most of South China sea and to create a situation that will make US intervention in case of an invasion of Taiwan futile, and the protection of it critical sea trade lanes and will be limited to the Indian Ocean and the west Pacific, as for oil, it importance diminishes every Decade and in the future all the critical oil will be supplied by land from Russia (Oil,Gaz and minerals..) and Central Asia (Kazakhstan (oil × Uranium and other minerals)- Turkmenistan (Gaz)) and probably Iran (Both oil and Gaz). The challenge is to secure the flow of minerals from Africa and possibly South America that are essential for current and future technologies.
China is trying to put a part of it trade by land through Trains and motorways from Asia to Europe in case total defeat in sea is imminent.
it's too prepare for a naval showdown with the US/AUS/Japan past the first and second island chain into the open Pacific as close to the US's borders as possible. Doesn't have to be that way, but it was the US's decision to hop in bed with the Japanese to realize the first and second island chain concepts. Why wouldn't a peer competitor react to missile batteries pointed at its most populated cities and industrial centers.
I agree. It's just for regional security. It's not a matter of trying to test America's resolve. America thinks everything is about America.
Its either aimed at Japan, Australia, India or NE Russia. Expedition to where?
Indeed the air group is important, however neither China nor the US has actual experience fighting the latest generation aircraft, thus I'd argue that the expected capability in this area is almost on par.
The point isn't to be the equal to the USN.. there is no point. Only to build a Navy powerful enough to protect Chinese interests and make the South China/Yellow Seas into Chinese lakes and make any Naval War too costly for the US.
It's already too costly
This carrier is for super power status duties
Agree...
@@cedriceric9730 not really. China needs to defend the straits around the south china sea in the eventual case of US blockade. Pushing the boundary closer to Japan, makes it harder for Japanese quislings to impose US demands on the Japanese government. Once china gets a deep sea port in Africa, this carrier can be stationed there while 004 will be trialing in the South China Sea.
As they should. US and Japan have caused so much damage to the region. Never again.
If the PLAN wants to win a war against the US they would need ships across the world to protect their trade. They import and fuel and food, and their economy relies on exports.
China just launched its first supercarrier, the Type 003, just recently at June 17 2022.
Now I can't wait for its sea trial, I hope that they succeed with minimal problems.
China was able to construct 2 carriers in less than 2 decades after it bought a Russian carrier. As China gains experience it will try to build more advanced carriers to suit its needs.
The plan is to have six carriers before 2030.
One of the primary reason the US Navy went to nuclear was that the stack gasses and salt water was highly corrosive and reduced the service life of very expensive naval aircraft
Based on China's civilian nuclear technology, I would say that the 004 class will be nuclear. Probably another 5-10 years after this one is in service (2026) but still pretty close).
You can't forget training. Flight Ops is an art in the speed of organization administration as well as actual maintenance and aircraft launches. Sustaining carrier operations is a test of that training much more than ship engineering.
Agreed, that's what the Chinese lacking but their efficiency more than make up for it.
@@andrewlim7751 efficiency isn't training it's a result of training. Understanding the system its strengths weaknesses and how to identify and repair failures is training and then when a sailor is able to think critically to overcome critical failures is what makes that sailor an effective member of the team...and thats something the PLA has never had. They've always thrown bodies at the problem They're only just now moving past dog and pony show political show boating and into the realm of actually having a proper military it'll be some time before they can efficiently train one.
@@ceberskie119 journey of thousands miles begins with single step...
@@ceberskie119 Lmao...cope harder.
Yeah, that's why japan, uk, USA all crashed their f35s and uk/USA crashed theirs just few days ago, and uk rolled f35 off their carrier few months ago.
Meanwhile no one has heard of any big Chinese carrier crashes and loss of aircraft.
If anything USA is overworking their fleet. Even nuclear sub crashed into the ground underwater. And their destroyers and surface ships,keep crashing into each other also. Us navy operations has been a farce in the last decade or two.
001 and 002 are used for training purpose. china would make 2 003-style air craft carriers that would form combat strength for China.
I just like seeing carriers launch and recover planes lol
Can you leave notes up a little longer please? By the time I notice at them and start to read they come down. I watch every thing that you do.
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Due to some more recent developments can you please do an updated version on your Ukraine Vs Russia and Taiwan Vs China videos thank you
There's nothing to talk abt China vs Taiwan, TW will surrender within 3 hours and their president would be the first one to flee the island😂
Why do you want to see discussion between parties with great disparity?
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#1 he already did videos on them but they're like four or five years out of date and
#2 they are two potential flashpoints when it comes to world politics
@@profribasmat217 Hi and bye, look at what the US has done in Afghanistan, that's embarrassing
@@profribasmat217 where do i get that 50 cents? R u going to give me? BTW, US has already completed it's embarrassing withdrawal from Afghanistan.😂
Will make good target for practice 😉
What happens to those sleds? I gotta know, they aren't still down there are they? I thought maybe they had a toe line but I looked really hard and didn't see any
thanks :)
Asia's largest aircraft carrier！
Also the largest warship built in the Eurasia continent ever! Having a displacement bigger than Yamato.
But can it beat the smaller ones, all of which carry 5gen fighters I have concerns about it's complement
Also the second largest warship in the world.
@@cedriceric9730 That is what concerns Chinese military fans…
@@cedriceric9730 Carrier vs Carrier Hypothetically all else considered, Yes Type003 can win. Type003 can launch a "faster" and "more payload" stealth fighter J-31.
French dont have a stealth jet. Japan & UK F35B stealth but "less range" and "less payload". USA carrier F35C stealth jets are "slower".
But in a real war any carrier in the western pacific will be sunk in a few minutes.
USA can launch a torrent of cruise missile at Chinas Carrier. and China aswell can launch torrents of cruise missiles at enemy carriers.
So Type003 would be useful for Chinas anti-terror/piracy campaigns in Africa & indian ocean, not really for fighting other Countries in pacific.
the world needs this
This makes me wish even more that the UK shouldn't have scrimped on cost and gone with CATOBAR from the start...
The UK’s carrier which also accommodates hundreds of Royal Marines is designed to be their Sabre-rattle.
It’s not designed for sustained high-tempo operations in the way US carriers are.
Curious. Considering the American fleet HQ and Admirals associated to RN and JSDF cite the Elizabeth's design as ideal for sustained long term operation. I wouldn't put your 'expertise' towards the 7th here if I were you. They'd probably laugh themselves into an early grave. As amusing as the YT armchair commentary always is, you people are thick as shit. And it shows.
@@ErraticFaith Well known American courtesy. QE class was hell of the risk and it is still bound to underperforming variant of single aircraft type. It is VERY expensive and yeah, while for MOST operations it might look as better, more versatile and more than adequate choice ... something US would send America-class ... it is not full strike carrier. British has invented EVERY SINGLE THING that makes modern strike carrier possible - and chosen to ignore it building QE class. They have tailored it for THEIR somewhat unique combination of operational needs. Kindly compare range-time-payload QE and Nimitz can put on target and size of defualt and maxed-out air groups.
UK can't afford it.
Doesn't matter if you invent it if you dont have the money to build + patent it and have the means to bring it to mass production.
U.K. even sold harrier tech to USA and now have to buy f35c from USA. UK can't even afford to properly fill out the naval air wing on both carriers, let alone get CATOBAR or nuclear and other tech which costs even more when they can't even afford what they got right now.
Just few weeks ago UK lost a 100 million quid f35c after it rolled off the end of QE ski ramp st like 20km/hr. Damn embarrassing. And they expect China to be threatened when they sail carrier group into SCS. Lol. This isn't 19th century anymore, in reality China puts out more naval tonnage in a year than UKs whole navy combined. China has larger navy than even USA. Aus and uk are both insignificant since China is already raking USA on.
If USA already can't stop china alone, then Australia and uk aren't going add much to the table and their involvement is just fount to mean they are cannon fodder. U.K. And Aus better think it through for real if the unspeakable does happen one day and war between usa and china happens. Modern China is not Iraq, Afghanistan or Vietnam/Korea etc who could not strike back at the homelands of the counties invading.. aus followed USA into the above wars every time. But this time Australia and uk itself would be at risk. Risk of total annihilation no less. UK is small country and Aus is just a few capital cities away from disappearing for all intents and purposes.
@@ex0duzz Well thanks for the bashing. You really don't like the UK and Australia do you?
Left out the Type 003 having more advanced direct-current (instead of alternating-current) EMALS catapults, integrated electric propulsion, and AEW plane (the KJ-600's AESA radars having constant 360-degree coverage unlike the E2 Hawkeye's one rotating Doppler PESA radar).
the E2D have the AN/APY-9 radar, and begun delivering in 2019, so that is kinda different now, but I'll say the KJ-600 is between the E-2C and E-2D.
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Nice
Will 004 be bigger? Or have we reached a point where big is just a big target like the battleships were.
Awesome!!!
United States of America vs The America's
@King Kong Man true but just amount of land and resources and area to capture will be logistical nightmare for USA and even worse for American nations can't wait for analysis .
Shear land area makes it impossible for either side to win.
I'll predict that: they'll take 20 years and kill millions and then retreat, giving their military companies trillions
@@shivanshna7618 HAHAHAHAHA all those are shit hole countrys and would fold in days
Noooo! Not the plot of the worse call of duty game!
That is one good looking ship, that much is certain. I think the Chinese can be justifiably proud of her.
What really matters in the long run more that the weapons themselves is the doctrine the forces follow and active service level training. The US still has more than an edge in that area. It's going to take the Chinese a bit more time.
The Chinese are now a fairly expensive proposition when it comes to a conflict with them, and this will make it more so.
I think it's important when speaking of doctrines to distinguish between 1. terrain/location and 2. the "weight" of the opponent. In both regards China and the US have next to no experience should a conflict break out between the two. Because they would be 1. fighting on China's east coast and the western Pacific, where no wars have been fought for a long time, and 2. fighting major world powers, which hasn't happened since the Cold War. Fighting China in the Pacific is most likely a completely different experience compared to fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan.
@@user-wb7ez9ud4p I think this is being war gamed at the highest levels by both sides. They'd both have plans figured out.
I think if a conflict starts (most probably over Taiwan) the US will limit their actions to that. No way they'd seek to go further. Hmmm that and freedom of navigation in the South China Sea.
@@Pablo668 Of course they have plans, but plans are just plans after all. Neither side has a real technological advantage or doctrinal advantage when it comes to war in that region imho.
@@user-wb7ez9ud4p Yeah true, plans don't hold up for long in conflict, but that wasn't my point really.
In terms of doctrine, when it comes down to the tactical I think you are pretty much right, depending on operational readiness of both sides.
But, the US has been operating carriers, carrier born assets, carrier battle groups and the rest since WWII. They have that doctrine behind them. The Chinese have done well to build a large and powerful navy, but they are still learning and have little experience relatively speaking.
I guess when the US navy gets within range of what is essentially a missile shield in that part of the Pacific we'll find out what is what. The Chinese have basically made a war over Taiwan a very expensive proposition.
@@Pablo668 I think China will tolerate freedom of navigation in the South China Sea until they are ready to challenge Taiwan. Once Taiwan is in the cards, China's islands will be armed enough to act as a deterrent for US vessels trying to defend Taiwan from the South. Really this is simple geography + tactical considerations.
Can you make a video comparing the F-35 and the FC-31?
I like to be on deck of a carrier when it pulls those quick turns..
Speaking of the Indian Ocean, would you be interested in analysing the recently commissioned Indian aircraft carrier Vikrant?
Which company built it?
@@jimrobinson6478 Cochin Shipyard limited.
@@CosmicValkyrie Thank you.
@@jimrobinson6478 you're welcome!
Man I love this channel!!
Ought to make a huge coral reef somewhere in the South Pacific!
PLA has one and only goal: Taiwan. Therefore mission requirement is within the 500 km radius of Taiwan. Go design and see what comes out of it. Boom 003
Exactly, which is probably the reason we are not hearing or seeing a 004 or 005 being built. This ship was built with Taiwan as the focus to counter the United States and then to be used to bully neighbors. China will ONLY look to expand into a blue water navy once the Taiwan issue has been resolved favorably, if not, then the regime will probably collapse. *Note 001 and 002 were procured and built to be training ships. While I'm sure they would use them in a conflict if they needed to, they are purely to give the PLA experience in operating, building, and maintaining carriers.
People's Republic of China versus Republic of China
@@besomewheredosomething No point of even drafting 004 or 005 until 003 is brought to best possible shape.
The comedy doesn’t start until the Chinese start air ops, we’ve been doing air ops going on a hundred years and it’s still incredibly dangerous. Air ops does not lend itself to amateur hour
That's why they bought the older Ex-Varyag in 2012 and inducted it into service to start learning carrier ops. 9 years of experience isn't a lot but its still something.
Its for India and Taiwan
@@Gongolongo the last I read about China taking out their carrier for air ops, they came back to port with their center island still smoking heavily after some major fire. Like I said air ops does not lend itself to the inexperienced
@@egorsdad8426 Experience is gained over time, and time is on China's side in this case.
@@user-wb7ez9ud4p yeah time and horrible corruption in American politics, although I’m sure trump was a bit of a scare for the ccp, but now your back to what you own
Zhuge Liang (諸葛亮) once wrote:
"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered, those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid. Thus the wise win before they fight, while the ignorant fight to win"
Everyone has to fight the enemy to beat them
So half of that is dumb
@@looinrims Your clearly don't understand the concept of beating without figthing, so watch what you say because you could look ignorant. You should read the Art of War for the basics.
Git Gut Lmao
- Sun Tsu
@@malokegames name me a war won without one side fighting the other
The first two lines are about discipline and how it prevents you from making emotional, irrational mistakes, the last line is completely at odds with reality
Before being an arrogant little fucker suggesting I read a book I’ve read, why not check what I’m saying first against reality?
@@looinrims you know nothing
Just out of curiosity. Why isn't catapults and landing drag wire use on land to do away with long landing strips? Just a question.
Costs more to train personnel to use and to maintain/service catapults and landing systems. Besides, they are only required because of short runways on carriers which is not a limitation on land.
@@michaelafubwa8125 But limiting landing space on the ground like in Japan against Chine, wouldn't that be an advantage for Japan? Just asking. Vertical lift aircraft have their limits as war machines because of the extra weight.
I wonder how well it'll hold up against the Mk48 ADCAP.
6:48 - And here I though I was good at stone skipping.
This will be interesting.
You don’t learn Carrier Ops overnight.
On the other hand, of course they will copy our methods.
Hell, Obama, if you remember had them doing ride alongs on our carriers so they could learn how to kill us faster. I pray to god the DemoRats are out of office next time around. Both in Congress and the Executive at minimum.
True but there is a big difference between copying something and understand why things are done the way they are. Look at the J-15, it is a copy of the Su-33 and nothing but problems, they reverse engineer it but didn't really understand it. China is already looking to replacing it.
@@geoffwalters3662 Say Hi to your coworkers at the Chinse troll farm.
@@geoffwalters3662 haha obama amirite
@@Kevbo75 100% and their manufacturing "quality" is garbage. On top of it all, when organizations are structured with political hacks leading the way and individual initiative a forbidden sin, the outcome is in our favor.
I'm looking for the 6x35 meter gold foil "Made in China" sticker on the stern😉
003 would be more likely operate only in South China Sea because its duration would be a problem, considering it use electromagnetic launch system in a normal power base.
Wow
Remember when China said they bought the old carrier for a casino
When will they start building type 004?From 2023 or later?
That's actually a good looking carrier
i don't need an army...
i need an Oscar II and 20 good Granits.
How do you hold land again ?
They forgot the holes for the oars.
I know the Russian navy regreted not adding to theres
For The uigyurs to pull😂
Oars?
Have to commend your site and the level of detail and knowledge , professionally produced and presented. Feels like a proper briefing. The level of analysis on capability is also impressibve. Well done
I love this guy