Reaction, Star Trek: TOS, S1 Ep 14 , Gallifrey Gals Get Warped! Balance of Terror
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- While the gals take short break in-between season 4 and 5 of Star Trek: TNG, they wanted to make sure they could give you a little TOS treat! The Enterprise is crossing paths with the Romulans for the first time and Paula and Katrina couldn't be anymore excite to get back story on the Romulans and Starfleet.
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Widely considered to be one of the best episodes of the original series. Definitely a classic.
As the years went by the public perception of Kirk became him being a warm, funny guy, possibly due to Shatner and Kirk becoming more similar both on screen and in the fan consciousness, and due to the scattering of out and out comedy episodes. But particularly in the first season, he's really kind of an ethical hardass. He's constantly holding his crew to the highest possible standards, but also visibly beating himself up inside as he really feels the weight of his every decision.
Agreed. Shatner was a trained Shakespearean actor. I think the parodies overtook his more understated work. He always understood that Kirk was more man than hero.
Shatner's natural talent as a comedian and a ham led to the character leaning more to the humorous side as the show went on. Kirk was originally written as a space age version of Horatio Hornblower, particularly for his sense of morality and justice. His distaste for Stiles' bigotry and how he dresses him down in front of everyone really reflects this old school style of leadership.
This episode is closely based on the film, "The Enemy Below", set in World War II, about a battle between a destroyer and an enemy submarine, with the USS Enterprise cast as the destroyer and the Romulan vessel as the U-boat.
And a wedding was later seen in TNG "Data's Day", as well as the Romulans.
They Build'em Good in Germany, Eh Heine?
Here for one of ST legends, Mark Lenard. Be on lookout for him in TNG. Edit, wasn't aware you've seen him already.
small personal note about Romulan ships....
The plastic model of the Romulan ship has very large airtight areas. And I can confirm for a fact, that if you take the model to the bottom of the pool, it "flies" really well up to the surface!
(stuff little trekkies do when they are young)
Also.... if you leave your Enterprise and Romulan plastic models in the backyard, your dog may decide it's a chew toy. The results are not pleasant..... LOL
"There is so much Star Trek.." Kat 2021. You've probably only done approx 11.9% of the overall 50+ years' content.
"Savage, even by Earth standards."
I like when writers point out that a different culture can view things differently than we are used to. If it was savage by Vulcan standards, we wouldn't grasp how violent the Romulans could be.
I agree. Vulcans, who live 200 years, have twice the strength of a human, and are telepathic. Vulcans unleashed...well... They touched upon that in one of the few eps of Enterprise I watched.
"Of all the species we have encountered, yours is the only one we cannot define. You have the arrogance of Andorians, the stubborn pride of Tellarites, one moment as driven by your emotions as Klingons, and the next you confound us by suddenly embracing logic"
"Ambassador,... are Vulcans afraid of Humans? ... why?"
"Because there IS one species you DO remind us of"
"... Vulcans"
"We had our wars, just as Humans did. Our planet devastated, our civilization nearly destroyed. Logic saved us. But where it took us 1500 years to rebuild our world and return to space, you Humans have done so in less than a century. There are those in the High Command who wonder what you will accomplish in the century to come... and they don't like the answer"
From Babylon 5:
"They are a primitive people. What is it that makes the humans so special? They fight, they argue, they are ruled by passions and fears."
"Yes, that is their strength. They do not see conformity. They do not surrender. Out of their differences comes symmetry; their unique capacity to fight against impossible odds. Hurt them, and they always come back stronger. The passions we deplore have taken them to their place in the stars, and will propel them to a great destiny. Their only weakness is that they do not recognize their own greatness. They forget that they have come to this place through two million years of evolution, struggle, and blood. They are better than they think, nobler than they know. They carry within them the capacity to walk among the stars like Giants. They are the future, and we have much to learn from them."
I will patiently make another request for "The Doomsday Machine".
Also... Mark Lenard also played the Klingon Commander in The Motion Picture, the first on screen portrayal of the Klingons with the 'new' makeup design.
Lenard was, in fact, the only actor to portray all three of the main Trek alien species.
I'll second that; Doomsday Machine is my favorite episode.
And Mark Lenard was Sarek, with his wife, Amanda, on a fantastic episode I suggest, "Journey to Babel." There's a great Dr. McCoy ending to that one.
The episode was essentially a science fiction version of the submarine film The Enemy Below, depicting a cat-and-mouse game between the Enterprise as the American destroyer against a Romulan vessel as the U-boat.
I love the Classic series! ♥️🖖
This is my favorite TOS episode, together with S2E10 "Journey to Babel". Balance of Terror is really intense especially for the show's standards. It feels more believable and aside from the thrilling space battle, the episode is also super important for the larger Trek lore, establishing the Romulans and their backstory. I love everything about it, including the sad emotional ending.
I hope you'll watch some more TOS classics in the future. "The Doomsday Machine" is a must-see, too.
By having the first major Romulan commander be played by Mark Lenard as an exhausted, war-weary veteran who doesn't respect his government, Star Trek was able to introduce a fearsome, yet nuanced enemy in the Romulans, a society that rejected the pacifism of Vulcan, but had an honorable warrior ethos...yet which also showed a society whose government was becoming more corrupt and totalitarian, coming to value cunning and deceit over and above bravery and honor.
This development is carried forward as plot arc through the Next Gen episodes still ahead, which I hope you enjoy!
I recommend you lovely ladies watch the two original episodes with the best guest-acting of all time, "The Doomsday Machine" (with William Windom) and "The Enterprise Incident" (with Joanna Linville as the female Romulan commander). In both these eps. the guest star was so INTENSE they completely stole the show! I look forward to seeing your analysis of it YT. Now subscribed, as if I had to tell ya!
Original series has so many great episodes and covers topics that are relevant today!
Lawrence Montaigne plays the ambitious Romulan in this episode and would go on to play Stonn in "Amok Time". Additionally, the helmets worn by the Romulans to avoid the cost of applying ears to the extras were reused for T'Pau's Vulcan escorts in that episode as well.
Spock (confused raised eyebrow): "I see no logic in preferring Stonn over me."
Stonn can't even react to the massive burn.
I met Lawrence Montaigne at a Convention, Cool Guy!
@@jamesalexander5623 I did too. He was a very nice man, friendly and humble.
He was also one of the escaping British soldiers in the movie "The Great Escape". I had never made the connection until I met him at a convention, and he had pictures from both the movie, and his Star Trek roles at his table. A very nice guy.
@@dongilleo9743 Guess who else was in The Great Escape .... Ston!
Katrina: There's A LOT OF Star Trek
As of this point we're over 800 aired episodes since 1966. This was a very tense episode of TOS and an early high mark for this series. Like Paula I didn't start with TOS. Only after I was already a fan did I go back to an episode like this
This was a sliver of what TOS was capable of. DS9 delivered that potential, and then some.
Another awesome Romulan-arc TOS episode is The Enterprise Incident - Spock gets saucy.
For the Romulan, it wasn't a "die with honor" situation. It was a "die to preserve the Empire".
If he had been captured, it would have gotten back to the Romulans (through spies) who would have launched a full-scale invasion. By dying with his ship and crew, the Romulans would have assumed (Correctly) that the Federation was smarter and tougher than they assumed, so they wouldn't invade. Had he killed Kirk and the Enterprise, it would have been reported and war plans would be put into place. Had he captured Kirk or the Enterprise, they would view humans as "being weak" and started to invade instantly.
Keep in mind, there is now a "gap" in monitoring the Neutral Zone at this point. Capturing crew or ship would tip the balance into war. A lost ship (exploded) left enough room for caution and suspicion of capability and strength to avoid a full-out war. Escaping without losing the ship would have STARTED the war, with the Enterprise being the "first ship casualty of war".
This episode is my personal favorite of TOS. It has a little of everything with the naval submarine battle tactics, bigotry with its immediate consequences, and growth at the end. Its such a shame that the bigotry that Stiles uses against Spock/Vulcans is still utilized today.
being used against whites
@@patsk8872 Well, the ideas behind this episode were lost on you, weren't they?
@@TheNoiseySpectator Or, more likely, they were casting a talented character actor whom they could envision in the role and maybe even saving a bit of money in the process since they had already done casts of his ears. ;-)
@@TheNoiseySpectator Star Trek cast numerous actors in multiple roles: William Campbell played Trelane and Koloth, Diana Muldaur played Ann Mulhall and Miranda Jones (and later on TNG Dr. Kate Pulaski), Skip Homeier played Melakon and Dr. Sevrin, Barbara Babcock played Mea 3 and Philana, Sean Kinney played Lt. DePaul and the injured Captain Pike, et al. Whether it was Roddenberry or someone else on the crew, Star Trek liked to reuse actors to play different roles. Better to go with someone whose abilities and reliability are not in doubt (witness what happened when John Drew Barrymore was disastrously cast in "The Alternative Factor").
Gallifrey Gals get originally warped
There are a TON of really great Original Series episodes. I'm 50, and I grew up watching these in reruns. Before TNG, there was only Kirk, Spock and McCoy and crew, and the show was on TV every day, sometimes on multiple channels. I've watched a handful of episodes with my 16 year old daughter and she loves them. What I'm trying to say is, I REALLY hope you 2 jump into TOS episodes more. And I gotta add, you both have brought an aspect to these that I missed previously... I find myself crying at moments I hadn't previously. Thank you, because it adds something that I lost because I've seen these dozens of times. Looking forward to more Star Trek. TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT are awesome.
Mark Lenard also played a small part in Star Trek The Motion Picture as a Klingon.
Such a great classic of an episode and one of my personal favourites. I’m a sucker for the action ones, but really love the character stuff with the Romulan Commander and Kirk constantly trying to out-think or out-manoeuvre each other. It is a bit random having Stiles on the Bridge, as he’s only in this one episode. But, it’s also rare that someone in Starfleet is shown to be so bigoted and confrontational, as Roddenberry was so famously against that sort of thing.
I love how Katrina gets Star Trek now, she has a great grasp now on the Trek Universe.
@@TheNoiseySpectator True but the fact that she enjoyed even a middle of the road episode kinda shows shes into Trek and willing to give the OG and hopefully other Trek shows a shot
@@TheNoiseySpectator I think that a Romulan-centered episode was simply perfect in the middle of a two-parter involving... well, Romulans.
Yeah, more Classic Trek! 🖖😄
"Leave any bigotry in your quarters: there's no room for it on the bridge. Do I make myself clear?"
I think there're a lotta criticisms one can levy against Trek over its history-captains being white men so often in the earlier series, Pike saying he'd never get used to a woman on the bridge (despite his own first officer being female), etc., Roddenberry's history as a romanced of women-but the stories and writing itself did set lofty goals (both for its own time and even today still) for not only its characters and the people in that world to aspire to, but probably for us today as well.
It's ideas like that I remember hearing as a kid when I saw this, that I've always associated with the series and franchise, and that I believe are worth keeping and holding on to.
Also, if you've ever watched Hunt for Red October, a lot of Star Trek battles were submarine battles.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Yup. I remember watching I Love Lucy as a kid an' becoming impressed with the premise as I slowly realized what it was. Slowly crawling our way forward.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Well my understanding of it as a kid was that he didn't think of Number One as "a woman". He mentally categorized her as "so competent and capable, she was just 'one of the guys'", which was a common attitude not only for the '60s but well into the '80s, though I think many thought of it as something people shouldn't rationally think or argue *for*.
(Then there was the sad axing of Number One as a bridge character by the network based on her testing poorly with women in test groups at the time? Hearing that always bugged me.)
In any case, I'm looking forward to seeing how Strange New Worlds turns out. Always liked her as a character.
@@gluuuuue Originally, the traits of being highly logical and unemotional were not traits of Spock. "Number One" was supposed to have them. That's what that line from Pike is referencing. However, as it is not ever explained on screen, and from the second pilot on it was retconned to be Vulcan traits and assigned to Spock, it now sounds like he is expressing that attitude that you describe.
Honestly, most of TOS is really good. I think hope the voters are picking all of the 8.0+ episodes, but the vast majority are 7.0+.
The first two seasons. The third.... meh.
I don't know whether anyone's mentioned that this episode is based on a WW2 movie called The Enemy Below (1957), in which Robert Mitchum played a US destroyer captain and Kurt Jurgens played the captain of a German U-Boat.
Good movie, too. It's also in color, if that matters to you (it shouldn't, some of the best movies ever are b&w).
@@paintedjaguar And free to watch on UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/kPDQahMyWiw/v-deo.html
One of the best of all Trek episodes. Brilliant.
There's a moment in this ep that even I who've watched this episode a couple of hundreds of times had forgotten; since the passing of Nichelle Nichols it is being shared on facebook ~ In "Balance of Terror" there is a scene that we may pass over lightly as modern viewers but is important to consider in the context of the times. This episode first aired in December of 1966, 56 years ago.
With the Enterprise damaged by the Romulans' nuclear device detonation at close proximity, navigator Lt. Stiles is relieved by Captain Kirk to rush to Phaser Control and keep the weapons operational at a critical moment. The Captain orders Lt. Uhura to take over Mr. Stiles' station at navigation, which she immediately does.
At first blush, this may seem like just another action scene with the crew responding to the crisis. But why does the camera follow Uhura so closely and linger on her as she assumes the navigation station with Sulu looking on?
Consider the scene in the context of 1966. A black woman is portrayed as a professional, an officer in Starfleet, skilled at her job with the complete confidence of her Captain and her peers. She responds quickly and competently to orders without fanfare.
This is where Star Trek shines and where so many others fail. The scene is ahead of its time but is played perfectly straight, with just a lingering camera shot for emphasis. No obnoxious moralizing, no heavy-handed finger-wagging, or clumsy brute force to spoil the effort.
Star Trek showed us a better version of ourselves, one that we could aspire to, and it showed it to us in the best way; realistic people behaving realistically in a futuristic setting, without regard to superficial differences. And it was effective and groundbreaking precisely because of that. ~
I met her at a Trek convention in the late 80s or early 90s and while I was in a group of fans getting things signed heard her talking about how Martin Luther King jr persuaded her to stay on the show. I still remember the tears in her eyes as she spoke about it. On another note; Mark Lenard told me; and several hundred others I should add, my first Star Trek dirty joke which involved his wee lad and a certain James T. Kirk. Both legends; sadly missed and always treasured. I feel so priviliged to have met and spoken with both, kerk (no relation ;-) ) hiraeth
Space seed
Doomsday Machine
The Enterprise Incident
Amok time
Just to namr a few
Mark Lenard is the only actor in Star Trek to have played all three of the principle Trek aliens. He was the Romulan Commander here, as you already recognized he later, and most famously, portrayed Sarek, (Vulcan) and also played the first of the updated Klingons in The Motion Picture.
Paula: There's an alternate ending where Stiles dies, and they have a big party.
That makes sense.
I love the original Star Trek and TNG. Captain Kirk was a real lady's man wasn't he? Mark Lenard who plays the romulan Captain always played good villains and would eventually play Sarek Spock's dad.
Stiles was 1centimeter away from ending up in the brig. On a navy ship if you had implied that the XO was a spy, you would have an unfortunate encounter with a couple of marines.
Such a great episode. Along with the awesome space battle (styled as a submarine battle), it is the best definition of "Brinksmanship"! Two enemies, who RESPECT each others intelligence, and thus have to try to constantly outthink the other! So cool.
This was the first episode I watched as a nine year old in 1966, it is still my favorite TOS episode. I always favored the first season over all, not that there are not good episodes in the other two seasons. Over the years I must have seen every episode dozens of times.
Now see, THAT is how you write television.
Another power episode from TOS. Great example of how Gene liked to bring up things you couldn't talk about on tv. Censors would never let you base an episode around human prejudice, but if you hate an 'alien' based on his looks that's okay.
Censors never showed intelligence, not then, nor today.
"Let That Be Your Last Battlefield"!
Time to watch Star Trek: Strange New World, episode 10 :)
Like submarine warfare in space. Always loved the "stylized" lighting choice partially shadowing the faces.
In 1991 to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Star Trek, fans voted on the top 10 episodes of the original series. "Balance of Terror" made the list at #10. You already watched the episodes that ranked #1, #2, and #3. The remaining episodes from that list included:
#9 "A Piece of the Action"
#8 "The Menagerie, Part 1"
#7 "The Menagerie, Part 2"
#6 "Space Seed"
#5 "Mirror, Mirror"
#4 "The Doomsday Machine"
"The Menagerie" isn't a top episode in my view. Bits and pieces from the unaired pilot, hastily assembled with some thin plot to hold all together (barely).
@@andreabindolini7452 It doesn't make my top 10 list either but is popular with many. It was a brilliant way to use "The Cage" and did prove that the story wasn't "too intellectual" as NBC executives originally charged when they rejected it.
@@exhistoriascientia A brilliant way to use "The Cage" would have been... broadcast "The Cage". At that point of the show they could easily have done so.
@@andreabindolini7452 Roddenberry didn't get to decide what to broadcast; NBC did and they rejected "The Cage." They wouldn't have been keen on showing characters that weren't seen the week before and wouldn't be seen again; such a decision wouldn't fly today either because it would be confusing for the audience (without the internet to dispense information on what was going on, that is).
Given that TNG Season 5 is coming up and there's a particular two-part episode therein, TOS' "Journey to Babel" is highly recommended to understand some of the underlying background between two of the characters (I hope that's spoiler free enough).
They knew what the ships looked like. Stiles said they were described as having birds painted on them. They said they didn't have ship to ship communication. But could still see them. Enterprise covers some of that. Mark Leonard is the only one to play a Romulan, Vulcan, and Klingon (in ST: TMP). I think that still stands. Hopefully, you'll be watching "Tomorrow is Yesterday" in the near future. It's one of my favorites.
Had Star Trek: Enterprise been renewed for a fifth season, it was going to feature the Earth-Romulan War. Sadly Paramount denied us that. :-(
Lock phasers on Paramount.
@@exhistoriascientia At least we have the novels of the Ent Romulan war and its immediate aftermath.
Mine, too. So funny!
Oooh... My favorite TOS!
I've waited SO long for both of you to watch this, EASILY one of TOS' best episodes!
It was pretty cool as a child to see Martine and Tomlinson, an engaged couple, working side-by-side like that, in a scifi, "wartime" episode. Any other show would have sent her to an on-ship shelter, but not here. I know the original series gets flak sometimes for sexism (not wholly undeserved), but moments like this back the in the 60's and 70's were awesome!
We knew that one of those kids was going to die from that first scene.
Ensign Martine will reappear in "Shore Leave."
This one plus Space Seed would be nice to watch before The Wrath of Khan
Since they're entering TNG Season 5, the TOS episode "Journey to Babel" would be a more immediate pick given that the relationship between two characters seen in an upcoming two-part episode of TNG will come up again.
@@TheNoiseySpectator I don't want to make assumptions about what she can or can't handle. She did get through "The Icarus Factor" after all. Only she knows what she can handle and if any of us have an idea it would be Paula.
🔔 GG's @ 16:25 Mark Lenard was ALSO on the short list to replace Leonard Nimoy if he quit! The person who SHOULD'VE replaced him was NOT on that list, namely James Coburn! (See 'In Like Flint' & 'Our Man Flint')
There was actually a deleted scene that would’ve done more to justify the later scene where Stiles claims that there might be Romulan spies aboard the ship.
Mark 9:56. Greetings! 🖖. I recently subscribed so that I wouldn't lose access to your channel. This is my first, Comment! (Posted here, that is.) Actor Mark Lenard, was the first one to hold the record for playing the most aliens in the series. This, "Romulan Commander", then "Sarek", and then, "Klingon Commander". ("Star Trek: The Motion Picture".)
Thumb Up #435! 👍. Thanks for the fun, digital video recording! 🎬 ✌️😎🖖
Final Comments: Okay. Hmm. Thanks for having name plates in front of you the whole time! That helps us that passively remember names, rather than actively.
Wow! Very catchy theme song! 👍 Thanks for acknowledging that you two are indeed, "gals", not, "guys"! Though I suspect that you did that because of the alliteration and the visuals, because in your closing remarks, you called every viewer a, "guy". 🤔
My first impression, was that the curly haired boy from, "Superman & Lois", was a guest! 😳
It's very odd to hear profanity used by gals rather than guys, but at least the female voice makes it more pleasant to the ears. But it is still funny to hear it. At least you're not like, Kevin Smith, talking about his own daughter, while using profanity, and thus sounding gross for seemingly talking about her sex life! 😳🙄
Well now, on to the next one!
I'm 70 and saw every TOS Episode in real time from Night One! My best friend's Mom had been a Sci-Fi reader as a young girl back in the 30's and said this new show should be pretty good! ....And that began our Trek!
Mark Leonard was also in 'Buck Rogers' as Wilma's headless boyfriend-don't bother...
Mark 17:10. "Garbage"? I got the impression that you two gals made a remark when reacting to, "TNG", and somebody thought that you should see an episode like this one, to get an answer. 🤔
What is this romulan war.
Are they friends in another reality?
This is definitely a favorite. Ahead of its time again and messages we need again. Great performances and writing. There is so much more complexity to the Romulans here. I wish later writers would have looked to this episode more. Their Romulans wouldn't have been so one dimensional if they did.
I'm not sure I'd call any TOS episodes garbage. There are some bad, weird, silly, ridiculous ones. But I can't remember any that would be garbage.
Strange New World's does a fantastic alternate version of this.
Well TNG in its defense did touch on the complexity of Romulans. Look at "Face of the Enemy" and "Unification". Got to see lots of differing views.
"Leave any bigotry in your quarters." Is definitely in my top ten list of ST quotes.
You younger gens get to experience a much larger audience and get to share it together in a format not even the tech of StarTrek could imagine. I grew up in the 60s and 70s watching TOS and I was the only one in my school and my neighborhood that liked it and understood it. Back then a Geek designation would get you socialy banned from well, pretty much everything. I was reading Asimov back then also. So glad things have changed. I been a StarTrek fan since 1966.
Playing hide and seek with the Romulans? Well, that is part of the great tradition begin with Admiral Archer, and continued by Picard as well.
Ben Sisko uncloaking The Defiant to kick some ass comes to mind.
@@michaelfinlay6341 that isn't the reason why he is my favorite captain, but support it!
I think they chose styles to live over Tomlinson so they could show Styles getting past his prejudice towards Spock after Spock saved his life. Sadly, I think they had Tomlinson die to have more of an emotional impact on the audience since he was going to get married. It showed that War has its casualties physical as well as emotional as Angela, his Bride to be found out in the conclusion of the episode. Truely a Star Trek Classic episode.
13:23 Kirk, you old dog! Always ending up with a lady in your arms! Ah, we all love a happy ending.
So glad you decided to watch this episode. it is such a great example of the original series.
A pleasant surprise! An all-time favorite Star Trek episode! I am a little worried by whatever source Paula is using. Between calling this episode the 8th episode of season 1 and all the mishaps with episode titles for the Gravity Falls videos, it's clear that are some glaring flaws with where she's getting some of her info.
Overall, I'm glad that they covered this episode as it is a must-watch of the original series and goes against the grain of the Star Trek franchise from how Gene envisioned it. Definitely one of the all-time finest episodes! I hope you get to watch The Enterprise Incident for more classic Romulan storylines or Devil In The Dark for more classic season 1!
I love how this episode is like a Destroyer hunting a Submarine.
A classic episode? I approve.
Excellent choice of a TOS episode.
I don't often do this, but if neither of you have ever watched it before; I'd recommend you try Babylon 5 when you get to the end of TNG or DW. It's the first modern sci-fi serial, and just been approved for a remake series (by the original author) on CW.
They would LOVE Babylon 5!
One of the things about shows that I find amusing/maddening is that sometimes they want the audience to lose their minds when we see someone we recognize pop up again, and sometimes it's just that they're reusing an actor in another role for no story-related reason.
Anyhoo, looking forward to the next TNG season premiere. xD
Another quality cat video that hasn't been copycat struck yet!
Smoky holes! It's TOS!
TOS has some real gems -- and some real stinkers.
I hope you eventually see them all tbh. No rush. :D
Your theme is stupid because it gets randomly stuck in my head.
I'm pretty sure Mark Lenard is the only actor to play a Vulcan, Romulan and Klingon (he was the Klingon Commander at the opening of "ST: The Motion Picture".
Your right. He did.
If Star Trek: Enterprise had gotten more than just 4 a season run it would have had to cover the Earth-Romulan War, likely as a multi-Season long arc, as it takes place during that time period of Trek history.
I watched Enterprise because Scott Bakula was on it, and Scott Bakula played my second favorite time traveling doctor. Jonathan Archer was not Sam Beckett.
Sqire of Gothos: just saying...
Oh hi future Spock's dad! LOL
It's always amazing and a pleasure to watch when you both react to TOS :)
I don't think we youtube audience ever got Amok Time...? Did we?
nope
Amok Time was done in May, between Season 3 and 4 reactions. It was Patreon only.
This is not only one of the best Trek episodes, its also a damn good episode of television period.
Great! Do more TOS.
Hey Katrina! It’s Wilson. Got the address and waiting on the pins to come in. I’ll let you know when I get them.
THANK YOU 🥺❤🥰
Pre-judgeing: ua-cam.com/video/KVN_0qvuhhw/v-deo.htmlsi=pSipVIAX4lPmUv
Mark Lenard played so many roles and not just Star Trek!
This was years befo re"Silent Running," but Roddenberry loved the submarine battle dramas, and this was that!
Remember, don't fall for an "-ism!"
The surprised face when they found out that it was the first time they would see a Romulan in Star Trek.
"Priceless"
Greetings from Venezuela from a former Star Trek fan.
This is my favorite
Just a reminder ladies. The commander of the Romulan ship is played by Mark Lenard. Mr. Lenard played in a few of the Trek movies and is in TNG. Season 3 Ep 23. Almost forgot he is Spock's dad.
One of my fave episodes!
Hurrah! One of the best episodes.
Looking forward to hearing what you teo ladies have to say,... presuming it doesn't get yanked down before I can watch it,....in a webex meeting at the moment. :-( Shame on work for interfering with my entertainment, grrr!!! ;-)
"There is so much Star Trek." At this point, they are literally making new episodes of Star Trek faster than you are making reactions! Eventually, there will literally be more Star Trek than any one person can watch in a lifetime.
Anyhow, Balance of Terror is a perfect blend of cheese nonsense ("Be quiet in space!") and really great tense drama. The terrible VFX technology of the 1960's and low budget meant they needed to focus on the characters during the battle, rather than the pew pew lasers action that the modern series can focus on a bit more.
No Star Trek was made since the end of Enterprise.
@@patsk8872 Except for Lower Decks. And the first five minutes of Picard.
OMG 😳 the Romulan commander is Spock's father!!!!
The Enemy Below (1957). Robert Mitchum vs. Curt Jergens.
in the original script, the romulan ship would have looked very federation like, a saucer with 2 nacelle engines....think like the USS Mayflower from the Trek 2009.....indicating the Romulans stole skimatics of federation ships, emphasizing Stile's accusation of Romulan spies.
Also, Stiles would have died, originally.
Mark Lenard has playing a Romulan, a Vulcan, and a Klingon. That reminds me that Tony Todd has played a Klingon, a Hirogen, and a human; Vaughn Armstrong has been Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, Vidiian, Borg, Hirogan, Kreetassan, and both a human from our universe and the Mirror Universe; Jeffrey Combs has been multiple Ferengi, as well as Vorta, Andorian, a supercomputer, and other alien races; and there have also been many other actors with multiple roles. This proud tradition was started by Mark Lenard and Majel Leigh Hudec Barrett Roddenberry - who played Number One in TOS first pilot, Nurse Chapel, Lwaxana Troi, and multiple roles on TAS, including the Starfleet computer, which she also did on TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT & Star Trek (2009).
The plot of this episode is based on the 1957 film The Enemy Below, with the Enterprise taking the part of the American destroyer and the Bird-of-Prey with its cloaking device taking the part of the submarine. Director Vincent McEveety had seen the film but only noticed the similarity later, when this was pointed out to him. He commented, "Obviously, it's the same story."
FYI- Errand of Mercy is the first appearance of the Klingons, with John Colicos (who later played Baltar in the original 1978 Battlestar Galactica TV series) as the Klingon commander.
All the notable Klingon commanders from TOS (Kor, Kang, and Koloth) also appear again in DS9.
First appearance of Spock's parents is in Journey to Babel.
T'Pol, who we see as a hot young babe in Enterprise, appears as an old lady in Amok Time.
And, of course Khan- who we see in Wrath of Khan and Into Darkness- has his first appearance in the episode Space Seed.
Mark Lenard is the only actor who played 3 different characters in the Star Trek franchise,he played a Romulan,a vulcan Spocks father and a Klingon Commander in Star Trek The Motion Picture from 1979.
I hope after these TOS shows, you ladies catch the movies. They're great. (1&5 are rough but are good in their own ways...) And you should be watching them before TNG...if you think about it. ;)
Mark Leonard was the first Trek actor to play three different species: a Vulcan (Sarek), the Romulan Commander, and a Klingon in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
14:06 James Blish published or wrote the novelizations of the TV show episodes. He took lots of liberties, including sparing Commodore Decker by preventing him from kamikazing a shuttle craft into the Doomsday Machine. Other differences abound.
Star Trek the Next Generation was written for a younger broader, and to be frank, less intelligent audience. The themes are easily understood, but the physics of the show's setting changed, as did the psychologies of the aliens. It's junk for those reasons, and not the whole Kirk-vs-Picard thing. Here the Enterprise is clearly a naval vessel with some scientific capabilities.
It's good that you're watching the original series- I don't know about Voyager (never watched all the episodes) but all the other 2nd wave Star Trek series reference and/or cross over with the original at some point, plus now you'll get a lot of jokes on Big Bang Theory and Futurama, and you may even start to understand why so many old school Trekkies hate the JJ Abrams movies...
And BTW- Have you ever heard of the movie Trekkies? Very entertaining documentary about Star Trek nerd culture hosted by Denise Crosby. Definitely worth your time to check out.
You both misunderstood about the neutral zone. As Spock said, it is "between" (twin planets), "Romulus and Remus and the rest of the galaxy".
I'm glad that your Patrons are handpicking some of the best TOS episodes but, if I may defend the "garbage" TOS episodes? Much like the first 2 seasons of TNG that are much derided, it's still great to see all the TOS episodes, warts and all, like you guys did for TNG. There are defiantly some clunkers but there are almost always good character moments for some of the crew and there are only 79 episodes vs. 178 for TNG.
The people who wrote this episode had lots of experience writing naval battles from World War II. This full episode is clearly based on a battle between a destroyer and a submarine in the Pacific Ocean during WWII.
The many Styles on board a ship reminded me of that scene from Spaceballs... "I'm surrounded by Styles"
You girls are great, keep hitting the Real Star Trek show and their best episodes! There's of course a ton of Trek, from TNG to DS9 but this is the REAL fuking TREK. The end all be all!