They say that, but we all know the community would still be complaining if Bayonetta wasn't banned in the tournament. You just can't please some people.
Wouldn't have happened if Bayo was actually unbanned like she should've been. Like come on it's the last Smash 4 tournament and we take out what the game is known for
Yeah, I remember a online game from Smash 4 I was playing Link against Falco and I charged an arrow and they held reflector and were just in a standoff until the game disconnected due to inactivity.
@@SALTYTOAD00 ok but bayo? she was literally the entire game why ban the most popular character, she was also actually entertaining to watch and play compared to steve
unironically seeing at this game again after playing ultimate for so long feels like im looking into an alternate mirror dimension with a bizarro ultimate, it feels uncanny to me even though i played this one lots as well
Idc what anyone says about this game, I had a phenomenal time competing in it and I loved all the cheese to go along with it. And at least there was SOME movement tech. As a Bidou player, I had a field day learning everything. RIP Sm4sh 😭 I’ll always love you
There were too many other contenders at the time, and Sonic was not considered top tier. Komorikiri was the highest placing Sonic player in attendance, sharing 17th place with players like Salem and VoiD.
@@WesleyFiles interesting thanks for the info, back then I was still a casual player so in didn't really knew about the storm of smash 4 bayo in the competitive community.
I mean, at least this was an online event and there weren’t people who paid to be here, but that’s still crazy that Sonix and Wrath pulled another EVO Grand Finals in this tournament! 😆
The Grand Finals felt cathartic especially when Sonix was surely doing this out of spite on Hbox lmao Most hilarious grands ever At least it was peak comedy
Smash four is the game I will never forget, I remember when I was younger, I was Bowser and kirby main when I was younger, now I’m a marth and cloud main in smash four
If anyone has any recommendations for slower and more defensive fighting games to fill the Smash 4 shaped void in my heart than Ultimate could never hope to fill, please comment your suggestions. The lessened end lag on a lot of moves, as well as grab nerfs, and shield nerfs(I think) really make Ultimate unenjoyable for me. I prefer moves to be punishable upon hitting shield.
‘Brawl+’ would probably be right up your street!!! Floaty + moves have real wind-up and landing animations etc but there's still plenty of combos too!!!
@@SSJPENGUIN I'm afraid I'm not much of one for emulation and don't own an actual Wii at the moment, do you have any suggestions available for purchase on modern platforms?
@@sevensvn5391 Unfortunately my only suggestion at that point would be to acquire a Wii U again :-/ (I bought my current one this year, after selling my first in 2018)
Tiny Mii Brawler was so broken. Way more than even Bayo, and the funny thing is, so few people are ever gonna know it because Mii sizes have been banned for ages.
Some of the gameplay may not look as polished as Peak Sm4sh like in 2016, but you can tell that the overall level of players are just higher than what it used to be because of 5 years of Ultimate.
The one problem i have with Hungrybox's community is how they treat sonix just because of his character pick. No matter what sonix does, people will always give him unnecessary hate and cruelty and they will diminish him and his wins and say "oh you're so carried you're so bad without sonic" when he's literally one of the hardest working, most genuine guys in the community. Sonix has grinded smash for so long to get where he is today, but all people will do is whine about how he plays even though he's actually really technical and hype. Most of the hate is because of sonic as a character which people project onto the player resulting in needlessly toxic comments and messages about this guy who has done nothing wrong. If you can be anything, be kinder, be respectful, be better. Sonix doesnt deserve all the grief he's given. We love you Sonix, congrats on your win!
He’s not bad but when I can take a full fucking nap during his games and miss nothing, it’s hard not dislike him. That being said, the hate should not extend outside of the game to the person.
You’re right. But then again, when Hbox, wrath, and the entire stream want them to do bayo dittos because it’s a final tribute to Sm4sh, and he said “bro what”, it’s super underwhelming.
@@legomyeggo_7244 yeah honestly that was so dissapointing because to me it felt like he was disrespecting everything that came out of the community back then
Yes, but the winner (which was Sonix) got to face Mistake's Bayonetta as the last match of the tournament. Also, Mii Brawler was banned as well, but that's because this was a Sm4sh online tournament.
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@foxshinehiyaa3933 you're trying to tell me watching that blue turd run away for 10 minutes after catching some stay fairs here and there is entertaining?
Wow timeouts are just not cool, when a character like Sonic initiates it. It can be really cool, that scramble to get a hit in, but Sonic is just not it.
- smash 4 in competitive plays with only 2 stocks - smash 4 has BAYONETTA - smash 4 is for me much slower than ultimate - smash 4 has FRICKIN BAYONETTA And without the competitive smash 4 has nothing compared to ultimate like for me it the worst smash bros game in terms of content
I’m sorry to hate, but man, inviting sonix and seeing how he plays the exact same in smash4 and ult is so lame. How does anyone play like this or watch it.
The Smash community hates Sonic so much that they practically BEGGED to see Smash 4 Bayo in finals. Never would have thought I would have seen that.
They say that, but we all know the community would still be complaining if Bayonetta wasn't banned in the tournament. You just can't please some people.
Wouldn't have happened if Bayo was actually unbanned like she should've been. Like come on it's the last Smash 4 tournament and we take out what the game is known for
@@Nick867 Hey, Hungrybox left the decision up to the community, so blame them.
@@SALTYTOAD00 I personally think a poll was unnecessary, but I do blame the community dw
@@SALTYTOAD00Its almost like this game is terrible competitively or something
This is the reason why Ultimate made it that you cannot indefinitely hold chargeable moves
Yeah, I remember a online game from Smash 4 I was playing Link against Falco and I charged an arrow and they held reflector and were just in a standoff until the game disconnected due to inactivity.
Yeah, that feature of Sm4sh was also why Cloud was busted. Once he got LIMIT, he could just hold onto it until he lost a stock.
I prefer infinite holding.
@@sevensvn5391 why? so people can infinitely stall the game like in EVO 2018?
8:59 Man. This is like a poetic-tragic moment for Smash 4.
Now we need a brawl tournament and see if sonix can win that
He played in Super Smash Con 2023's Brawl bracket, didn't do well. 1-2 to get eliminated.
Smash 4 really elevated the hype for new character reveals
TRUE!
Putting both banned characters in the thumbnail 😭
yeah they shouldve been legal to truly show off the game but whatever
@@Myst1c_OW Mii Brawler can't be allowed. Sm4sh didn't allow you to play as Miis online.
@@SALTYTOAD00 ok but bayo? she was literally the entire game why ban the most popular character, she was also actually entertaining to watch and play compared to steve
@@Myst1c_OW The community decided to ban her. HBox put up a poll on Twitter, and the option to ban her won.
@@Myst1c_OW Bayo was not entertaining to watch at all in sm4sh, no one liked her except the bayo players
maybe leo was onto something saying sonic top 2 in smash 4…
They didn’t listen at all 😂
unironically seeing at this game again after playing ultimate for so long feels like im looking into an alternate mirror dimension with a bizarro ultimate, it feels uncanny to me even though i played this one lots as well
8:57 evo 2018 moment lol
But if you close your eyes
NOOOOOOOOOZ
but with no rapists
@@AppleSauceEnjoyer84 REAL
Having mew2king come in at the end was really the nail in the coffin for this game
I'm confused what are you referring to?
2:10 DAAMN RIDDLES
Watching this was more fun than anything of ult since 2022
Despite sm4sh being awful, I agree
Idc what anyone says about this game, I had a phenomenal time competing in it and I loved all the cheese to go along with it. And at least there was SOME movement tech. As a Bidou player, I had a field day learning everything.
RIP Sm4sh 😭 I’ll always love you
8:57 GOD LIKE, I LAUGHED A LOT AT THIS PART
imagine if there's another univerese where bayo was banned from smash 4 evo and we had a sonic ditto grands final 8:58
There were too many other contenders at the time, and Sonic was not considered top tier.
Komorikiri was the highest placing Sonic player in attendance, sharing 17th place with players like Salem and VoiD.
@@WesleyFiles interesting thanks for the info, back then I was still a casual player so in didn't really knew about the storm of smash 4 bayo in the competitive community.
It’s still sad to me that we don’t get to see the king of smash 4, ZeRo, really tragic 😢
Maybe he shouldn’t have been pedophile
Yeah we don't need mr mold eater ice noncer in a tournament ever again, even if it's a game as bad as tr4sh
m2k commentary is gold LOL
That was so funny when they were both charging spin dash and he was getting the Bayo flashbacks.
I mean, at least this was an online event and there weren’t people who paid to be here, but that’s still crazy that Sonix and Wrath pulled another EVO Grand Finals in this tournament! 😆
The Grand Finals felt cathartic especially when Sonix was surely doing this out of spite on Hbox lmao
Most hilarious grands ever
At least it was peak comedy
Go play a set against sonix.
or it's just trash
glad that it's just stream and hbox himself is hilarious. Imagine how cringe it will be if it was offline.
@@mjdevlogyeah no lmao
If it was offline Bayo is legal and 80% of Top 8 is Bayo sooooooooo lmao
10:22
Bro just realized he needs to ban Sonic from coinbox.
Such a great tourney man
0:30 that's my main, what a way to start off the vid lmao, right after the rest
3:13 Bro started draining the power to his house with his sheer hype
That thumbnail is funny
Smash four is the game I will never forget, I remember when I was younger, I was Bowser and kirby main when I was younger, now I’m a marth and cloud main in smash four
who
If anyone has any recommendations for slower and more defensive fighting games to fill the Smash 4 shaped void in my heart than Ultimate could never hope to fill, please comment your suggestions. The lessened end lag on a lot of moves, as well as grab nerfs, and shield nerfs(I think) really make Ultimate unenjoyable for me. I prefer moves to be punishable upon hitting shield.
play Brawl
‘Brawl+’ would probably be right up your street!!!
Floaty + moves have real wind-up and landing animations etc but there's still plenty of combos too!!!
@@SSJPENGUIN And I'm assuming tripping is removed?
@@SSJPENGUIN I'm afraid I'm not much of one for emulation and don't own an actual Wii at the moment, do you have any suggestions available for purchase on modern platforms?
@@sevensvn5391 Unfortunately my only suggestion at that point would be to acquire a Wii U again :-/
(I bought my current one this year, after selling my first in 2018)
6:23 what character would Sonix’s grandma even play lmao
5 minutes in and there are already 6 scam bot in the comments
My fav characters are
Ken
Young link
Sonic
(There might be a hidden message in this comment for sonix specifically)
Thank God Mii Fighters were banned in online for this game. If not, the top 8 would mostly consist of small Mii Brawler.
Tiny Mii Brawler was so broken. Way more than even Bayo, and the funny thing is, so few people are ever gonna know it because Mii sizes have been banned for ages.
@@heartnet40 Also, because when people think of broken Sm4sh characters, their minds instantly jump to Cloud and Bayonetta.
6:10 WHAT A KOALA!!!1!
3:14 R2-D2???
1:27 there aren’t enough words to express my sadness about this information.
time be try my best to be the best kingdedede “molished” and or Dark link
there's simply no winners...
10:00 M2k really came in and talked for 45 seconds straight 😂
Some of the gameplay may not look as polished as Peak Sm4sh like in 2016, but you can tell that the overall level of players are just higher than what it used to be because of 5 years of Ultimate.
THERE'S JUSTIIIICCCE LOL
Goodbye smash 4, I miss the hype around the smash reveals of megaman, Mewtwo, Lucas,roy,ryu, cloud,and bayonetta
Sonix W, that's why he's the GOAT!
This finale sure was hooked on Sonix!
that ryzen ave down throw fair was hilarious
Watching this makes me appreciate ultimate a lot more.
9:00 but if you close your eyes does it almost feel like nothings changed at all
Bye smash 4
i know you couldn't put the rap god part but can you make a 6 minute version of mewtwoking yapping about random shit.
They shoulda dq'd sonix and wrath for what they recreated
It's content. Good for business.
9:16 same
funniest shit ever is the Sonic ditto in grands
Yo m2k jumpscare at the end
IF ONLY LOADING ENTERED,, HE DOMINATED THE NAIFU WARS FOR SOMETIME BRUHHH ,,, PLUS IN SMASH4 Mega man did well vs sonic lol
smash 4 Ryu had collarbone breaker fadc
Here i made a short just about this very moment. But hungrybox is just superior at references. 8:59
8:59 But if you close your eyes...
I really wanted to see the Rap God M2K bit :(
1:47 mr. yeet?
Why did people all suddenly leave this video right at the 8:00 mark?
There is no justice
lmao the collision pic
The one problem i have with Hungrybox's community is how they treat sonix just because of his character pick. No matter what sonix does, people will always give him unnecessary hate and cruelty and they will diminish him and his wins and say "oh you're so carried you're so bad without sonic" when he's literally one of the hardest working, most genuine guys in the community. Sonix has grinded smash for so long to get where he is today, but all people will do is whine about how he plays even though he's actually really technical and hype. Most of the hate is because of sonic as a character which people project onto the player resulting in needlessly toxic comments and messages about this guy who has done nothing wrong. If you can be anything, be kinder, be respectful, be better. Sonix doesnt deserve all the grief he's given. We love you Sonix, congrats on your win!
He’s not bad but when I can take a full fucking nap during his games and miss nothing, it’s hard not dislike him.
That being said, the hate should not extend outside of the game to the person.
You’re right. But then again, when Hbox, wrath, and the entire stream want them to do bayo dittos because it’s a final tribute to Sm4sh, and he said “bro what”, it’s super underwhelming.
@@legomyeggo_7244 yeah that was lame as hell
Even worse, this problem isn't even exclusive to HBox's community.
@@legomyeggo_7244 yeah honestly that was so dissapointing because to me it felt like he was disrespecting everything that came out of the community back then
what kinda thumbnail is this? wasn't bayo banned? we just openly clickbaiting now?
Yes, but the winner (which was Sonix) got to face Mistake's Bayonetta as the last match of the tournament. Also, Mii Brawler was banned as well, but that's because this was a Sm4sh online tournament.
o7 Smash 4.
Go Kirby Go!
As much as I despise sonic and sonix playstyle. He knows how to play his character. Eventually ultimate players will get consistent at beating sonic.
I love you Smash 4 :)
🔥🔥🔥
Does this count as sonic winning a smash 4 major? I’m gonna say yes just so we can agree the character is carried
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I’ve been a fan of all the top smash ultimate players… except for sonix lol
Sonix is the reason I stopped watching high level smash...what a snoozefest
Ok manchild
@foxshinehiyaa3933 you're trying to tell me watching that blue turd run away for 10 minutes after catching some stay fairs here and there is entertaining?
Wow timeouts are just not cool, when a character like Sonic initiates it. It can be really cool, that scramble to get a hit in, but Sonic is just not it.
11:01 havaha
7:43 I thought sonix sent it and it was hilarious, but it was l4st and now its not funny
How tf did anyone take that Grands seriously? The Smash community is so soft bruh
Why are there so many bots 😭
Never stop using that picture please
Smash 4 better then Ult despite the flaws
- smash 4 in competitive plays with only 2 stocks
- smash 4 has BAYONETTA
- smash 4 is for me much slower than ultimate
- smash 4 has FRICKIN BAYONETTA
And without the competitive smash 4 has nothing compared to ultimate like for me it the worst smash bros game in terms of content
Cant imagine why this games competitive scene died.
Truly one of the games of all time
Yk a character called bayonetta-
yea yea cool cool whatever sonix camps another coinbox and wins money for it
Leaving out Dabuz rapping is a crime
Sonix is so lame
facts lol i was looking for this comment. Sonic players right
i just subed
love me
You made the rules to form only the game changes
Are you telling me after all these years, sonic was actually the best character in smash 4.
No like CLEARLY NOT he is not even in the top 5 it just that it is online and that Bayonetta was banned
smash 3ds tourney when
Unfortunately, never since the 3DS servers shut down. Hungrybox can't use Pretendo unless he wants Nintendo knocking at his door.
I don't think Pretendo supports Smash Bros just yet either
@@adamspeiser6449 Yeah, it doesn't. So far, it only supports games like Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon.
Pretendo would be knocking on HungryBoxes’s door shut everything down IMMEDIATELY 🤣
Damn… I guess smash 4 was cursed…
You know, maybe Bayo wasn't that bad after all
Nah I prefer sonic over a really really really really unfair character that has everything in her kit
She absolutely was lol. Sonic was similarly broken though.
Smash 4 or Ultimate, we can all agree sonic timeouts are lame asf
I think sonic is the lamest character of all time. Least fun character to watch in smash 4 and ult
I lost all respect for Sonix. I had none to begin with, but I lost it almost immediately. Screw Sonix.
What did he do to you ? Are you really that of a kid crying because a player is playing the game like he wants
sonix is so bad holy he can only timeout
he's hella good he just has a super boring playstyle that shouldn't exist.
Ok slasher9987
I’m sorry to hate, but man, inviting sonix and seeing how he plays the exact same in smash4 and ult is so lame. How does anyone play like this or watch it.
I do🗿