neurodivergent and autistic people especially can personify objects and become really emotionally attached to objects so it’s really hurtful when minimalists criticize the maximalist design style, it feels like a personal attack on the emotions 😢 I love being surrounded by my favorite things and I do have a hard time letting go of objects. My personal space is very colorful, fun and creative but can be considered “cluttered” as I have ADHD and need to be able to see where everything is, else I forget that it exists 😂
Yeah I have a son with autism and he can’t sleep unless he has nothing in his room except his bed and clothes. He’s incredibly tidy and always has been so not every person is the same
And I have ADHD and I crave minimalism and feel very comfortable in it even though I find it impossible to achieve and am constantly surrounded by noise of my own making.
It makes me really sad to see people just call everyone who has a lot of things that they like and display 'mentally ill'. I went minimalist for the past few months in my desk space. I enjoyed the clean and refreshing feeling it gave me at first, but as time went on I felt myself feeling void of personality and it sucked the energy out of me - it caused me to lose motivation in my work. There is a HUGE difference between hoarding a bunch of trash/objects where it negatively affects your life and the aesthetic of cluttercore. For example, my desk is completely 'cluttercore-d' out on 80's/90's/2000's and retro video games/movies nostalgia. It is my special interest, and as an autistic person I thrive in this space. On the other side of my room it barely has any decorations and is very clean. I am an artist and I feel much more creative and motivated to work in my space filled with 80's video game and movie posters, action figures, lava lamps, vhs tapes, and rainbow lights. (As organized and tidy as possible) Everyone is different. There are people who thrive in maximalist spaces, and those who stress out and are distracted in those spaces. Same with minimalism. Lots of people thrive really well in a minimalist lifestyle, but for others it could feel void of personal touch or find them lacking creativity / motivation.
I don't like how people conflated Marie Kondo with Minimalism when she's never told people that the focus should be not having a lot of things. I think there's definitely room in the Marie Kondo's method for collections, having a decent amount of objects that spark joy. Clutter core and the Konmari method could go together even.
There are "they" on both sides of this absurd argument. Just type "I hate minimalism" and you will find the other "they". Most people don't give a flying f either way. Let's stop making everything about us vs them.
I am not fond of the trend of everything being called "core" even though we have existing vocabulary for it. But the actual "cluttercore" style IS really cool. Clutter isn't the right word though. Something is only "clutter" if you don't want it there and there's no intent behind it. This design trend has a lot of intent! Everything is placed so deliberately. I think it's all about mindfulness, and to me, clutter isn't mindful.
Oh thank God you did this video, I am a therapist and I work so hard on perfectionism with my clients… And with my self… Especially those of us with ADHD we need to have our stuff in front of us as reminders, it's almost like it's part of who we are… And the minimalist trend was making us feel worse and worse… I'm gonna send some of these videos to my clients
I remember watching howls moving castle for the first time and seeing howls home that was clean and minimalist, except for his room. Every inch of his room was covered in magical things and I fell in love with that idea. Minimalism and Cluttercore have their places and for me it’s the bedroom that is just mine and I can display all my stuff.
There is truth in the stance that objects can have spirit . When an object is made in joy and love , it holds the energy of its creator . If an object is chosen ,loved ,cherished and look after with care ,again it holds the energy of the one . . . .or the more ,who love it . There is a belief in Asian culture that if an object is kept and yet is unloved , in one hundred years these objects become possessed by evil spirits . Let us live and let live ,judgement and shaming serves no one ,embrace differences and let it be . Hoarding only really becomes a problem when if interfere s with one s health and well being .For example , when one cannot use their space for purpose , they cannot use their bathroom , or bedroom ,or kitchen .Truly ,our living envoiroment is a reflection of our inner world and I celebrate the diversity .
I love my stuff. I enjoy it and create stuff. I have stuff all around me, but I also have plenty of room to move around and it's neat and clean. I love seeing my stuff. Starkness is awful to me. It makes me very uncomfortable when there's no decoration in a space. It's almost an artform to arrange my stuff and I enjoy it. I would tell these guys to stop dissing my stuff.
Who cares if someone who is not a psychiatrist at all calls another person mental ill? I think he's rude and brutal because he's insecure about his minimalism as solving all his problems? Often people who speak so loud and know everything so well, are overshouting their own insecureness. I think he means it well by saying, consuming is not helping you, your life will not be a 'they live happily ever after-fairy tale' after buying new shoes or bags or cars or whatever....And I think every adhd-er submits, or not🤔 But consuming for being happy after all and have your things around you to be inspired, is not the same thing....
I collect things I enjoy art/ craft supplies, Cd's and more than anything books. I do tend to fall on the hoarding side of things though. Not to the point that everywhere has piled of stuff but my cupboards are full. I wanted to heal before things got worse. So I'm stopping shopping for unnecessary stuff and I started to declutter. Because I fell down the minimalism rabbit hole. I was getting frustrated because I decluttered and still had lots of things. I love my books and CD's they hold memories for me. My boyfriend passed away in May I bought them in the charity shops when we went out together. I also have some that belonged to him. I'm so glad I found this video because I was feeling very stressed. Now I know that I can just keep my things I love and just relax! Thankyou.
I love colour, pattern and texture. Nature itself is clutter core. I wonder if these guys would love having a Monet painting hanging in their home...haha
The rich guy's bookcase freaked me out but then Laura's enthousiasm brought me back. Another great one, guys! Love the format of two people just having a conversation and Jesse coming in with relevant context, very Emperor's New Groove (compliment). Really curious about the bird stitch wall! I would also absolutely watch a full video on Marie Kondo and what her approach is/is not + your thoughts. Marta's very last words are so important! It's so lovely to see someone defend youth culture, and trying to understand what it's about instead of the boomer op eds about how gen z is killing facebook or whatever. Intergenerational solidarity!
They are just really intolerant of others' beliefs and lifestyles. No different from maximalists who rail against minimalism. I am a minimalist and they don't speak for me at all. The whole point of minimalism is to emphasize the things you need and love.
I’m so glad I found this video. I used to watch a lot of minimalism content because I thought it would be my answer. What I found, though, is that it mostly just made me sad, especially when that style was imposed on children. Children need different kinds of things to manipulate, experience, and explore. A child’s room that contains a bed, a dresser, and little else is just terribly sad to me. It dawned on me lately that there’s a huge difference between having pretty things that you love and having stacks of mail and other clutter of that sort. I don’t care for stark spaces. I like warmth. I like visual interest. I like color. I feel overwhelmed when my space is untidy, but I wouldn’t be happy in a minimalist space.
Thank you so so much for the video and for sharing your experiences! Very interesting, I learned a lot :) I just stumbled across the term cluttercore today and wanted to learn more. But I also really like the concept of minimalism (as in, owning less stuff for practical and buying less for environmental reasons, not the aesthetic), so I wondered if anybody had combined the two. All articles I found claimed they're polar opposites, and then I found that podcast...and immediately stopped listening after that bs quote. Wow, first time I heard about different sensory styles, that makes so much sense! (pun intended) The idea that hoarding is a mental illness sounds so weird to me cause like... we're hunters and gatherers, right? Doesn't it make perfect sense to hoard stuff in case of a harsh winter? Obvs not quite as necessary in modern times anymore, but certainly sounds like a perfectly well-functioning monkey brain. So many of the cluttercore pictures I saw were of small rooms/apartments. No matter how little stuff you have, in a tiny space it'll always end up looking a bit cluttered. Meanwhile a lot of "minimalist" aesthetic apartments make a point of being huge empty rooms. (Just saw a video "how to tell you're a minimalist - your rooms echo".) Which obvs, a perfectly fine design choice for those who like it. But I'd guess that a huge empty apartment costs more than a tiny one filled with random nicnacs and a colourful wallpaper. (And you could argue it's not very minimalist when it comes to space...) Ugh. It's always so disappointing when people get soooo close to grasping the problem. Although I guess expecting rich people to point out that capitalism = bad is maybe expecting too much. In a lot of videos about minimalism (or related ideas) that I watched there was a stress on actually *using* the things that you own. Which, for decorational items surely would mean displaying them? Or even if things aren't strictly intended as decorations, if you use them as such then you'd get more use out of them, right? And it's perfectly possible to make a room *look* cluttered without actually much stuff in it. Start with a wallpaper with a busy pattern, put your cups and books (that you have/use anyway) on open shelves instead of behind a door, finish off with some pictures/postcards pinned to the walls and other random places. (The pictures are technically extra stuff, but hey, little pieces of paper don't actually account for much physical mass eh.) So to me it sounds like (practical) minimalism and (aesthetic) cluttercore aren't mutually exclusive. Both also encourage you to think about your stuff, and what things are important to you.
My apartment is a special kind of live-in musseum. Just taking one look at these guys gives me the ick! Somehow I am happy they hate it and pathologize it cos I would not want them to staybin my glat fornone minute, I would want them to piss off immediately.... so itlf they are afraid of me they will stay away. Kind of fundamental rhinking but I made my place myvlittle fortress and it is filled qith clutter and memories and rarities and souvenirs and I love it.
I made it 31 seconds into this video before feeling compelled to write this comment - The 'Clip Guy' who uses the term "CLINGING TO" is conflating Buddhism Spiritual Concepts with Physical Existance Of Beings. "Clinging" is a Buddhist concept & this Clip Fool has not bothered to do enough self-reflection to understand that his judgement of other beings puts him way further down the rebirth list than any Human Person Who Is Openly & Honestly Existing. So yeah, sucks to be *that guy*. Orright, I shall continue watching now, lol
Unsubscribed from The Minimalists. Thank you. I was late diagnosed AuDHD & felt bad for my happy collections as I was always teased for it & thought they must be 'right'. Love your work!!
I feel like you we’re getting to the point. It’s not min against max, it’s two rich men who got lucky with an investment ignoring the fact it’s a fad, and as it shifted like all fads, they are mad they can’t make money off people. Most people are starting to do what works for them, and they can’t handle what worked for them (and made them money) isn’t always what works for others.
Absolutely!, I’m a maximalist, design wise, I can walk through my apartment, and I can find my cat😂 I’m an artist/ designer, in a one bedroom apartment, so I kinda have no choice but to be maximalist, but, everything has a place
'the museums are not keepers of historical items and interest based categories. They are not archives, they are mental illnesses' - 'libraries are not archives as books, they are enabling mental illness' lol - what?
I think people should decorate their homes however they like and live whatever kind of lifestyle they so wish to. I personally am not into minimalism because I think their homes typically look so bland and lifeless, and like they aren’t lived in. And I’m personally not into that, but that’s okay. They can keep living like that if it makes them happy. And while I love having a lot of things on display in my room, a lot of clutter core rooms would be a bit much for me because of sensory overload, but thats okay because I don’t live in those homes. Other people who are into clutter core live in them so if they like their homes thats all that matters. And there is a big difference between clutter core and hoarding. Hoarders are unable to throw away anything so their homes become cluttered with actual garbage and are just overall unliveable. That is an actual mental illness. Maximalists however pick things out with some level of intent and they find a way to organise it all so that there is no garbage laying around and their homes are very liveable. These guys need to mind their own business and let people live however they wanna live.
How ignorant of them to throw the term “mental illness” around. Collecting, arranging, and displaying objects is a creative process. Minimalism, to me, is the opposite… a DEstructive lack of creativity.
What an absurd debate. I've heard as many people vehemently hate minimalism ( just look up I hate minimalism videos on UA-cam) as I have heard calling people who love being surrounded by tons of objects mentally ill hoarders. We all have different needs. Some people like their minimal white space and some people like the Rococo lifestyle and there are people who need a bit of both in different aspects of their lives. I feel that as a society we have succumbed to factionalism in every aspect of our lives. Why? They both have their value and everyone should decide what suits them without suffering judgement. The presenters here keep talking about how minimalists are judgmental but refer to minimalists environments as creepy and soulless implying that that people that enjoy those environments are somehow creepy or souless. If either environment disturbs you to the point where you wont go to someone's house because it somehow disturbs you to the point where you can't be there then you are the one with the problem . Live your life and accept other's.
I hated the film these guys are referencing. Found out recently I'm a maximalist as far as design aesthetic goes. I don't give a crap what other people do or like. I like what I like and am not out to prove anything to anyone but myself. This OG Gen X'er agrees with Gen Z
OMG SO WHAT.JUST DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW JUDGE THEM WTF IMPOSING OUR POINTS OF VIEW JUDGING THEM HELLO BOTH GUILTY FACT WERE ALL DIFFERENT. SO LEAVE THEM BE!!! WE CAN CHOSE TO NOT TO GO THERE. YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT NOW DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO AGAIN LIVE AND LET LIVE
neurodivergent and autistic people especially can personify objects and become really emotionally attached to objects so it’s really hurtful when minimalists criticize the maximalist design style, it feels like a personal attack on the emotions 😢
I love being surrounded by my favorite things and I do have a hard time letting go of objects. My personal space is very colorful, fun and creative but can be considered “cluttered” as I have ADHD and need to be able to see where everything is, else I forget that it exists 😂
I am the same way
Yeah I have a son with autism and he can’t sleep unless he has nothing in his room except his bed and clothes. He’s incredibly tidy and always has been so not every person is the same
I could've written these exact words verbatim.
And I have ADHD and I crave minimalism and feel very comfortable in it even though I find it impossible to achieve and am constantly surrounded by noise of my own making.
I am the same way!!
It makes me really sad to see people just call everyone who has a lot of things that they like and display 'mentally ill'.
I went minimalist for the past few months in my desk space. I enjoyed the clean and refreshing feeling it gave me at first, but as time went on I felt myself feeling void of personality and it sucked the energy out of me - it caused me to lose motivation in my work.
There is a HUGE difference between hoarding a bunch of trash/objects where it negatively affects your life and the aesthetic of cluttercore.
For example, my desk is completely 'cluttercore-d' out on 80's/90's/2000's and retro video games/movies nostalgia. It is my special interest, and as an autistic person I thrive in this space. On the other side of my room it barely has any decorations and is very clean. I am an artist and I feel much more creative and motivated to work in my space filled with 80's video game and movie posters, action figures, lava lamps, vhs tapes, and rainbow lights. (As organized and tidy as possible)
Everyone is different. There are people who thrive in maximalist spaces, and those who stress out and are distracted in those spaces. Same with minimalism. Lots of people thrive really well in a minimalist lifestyle, but for others it could feel void of personal touch or find them lacking creativity / motivation.
I don't like how people conflated Marie Kondo with Minimalism when she's never told people that the focus should be not having a lot of things. I think there's definitely room in the Marie Kondo's method for collections, having a decent amount of objects that spark joy. Clutter core and the Konmari method could go together even.
i hate that they think their minimalism is the only right way to live!
There are "they" on both sides of this absurd argument. Just type "I hate minimalism" and you will find the other "they". Most people don't give a flying f either way. Let's stop making everything about us vs them.
I am not fond of the trend of everything being called "core" even though we have existing vocabulary for it. But the actual "cluttercore" style IS really cool. Clutter isn't the right word though. Something is only "clutter" if you don't want it there and there's no intent behind it. This design trend has a lot of intent! Everything is placed so deliberately. I think it's all about mindfulness, and to me, clutter isn't mindful.
Oh thank God you did this video, I am a therapist and I work so hard on perfectionism with my clients… And with my self… Especially those of us with ADHD we need to have our stuff in front of us as reminders, it's almost like it's part of who we are… And the minimalist trend was making us feel worse and worse… I'm gonna send some of these videos to my clients
I remember watching howls moving castle for the first time and seeing howls home that was clean and minimalist, except for his room. Every inch of his room was covered in magical things and I fell in love with that idea. Minimalism and Cluttercore have their places and for me it’s the bedroom that is just mine and I can display all my stuff.
There is truth in the stance that objects can have spirit . When an object is made in joy and love , it holds the energy of its creator . If an object is chosen ,loved ,cherished and look after with care ,again it holds the energy of the one . . . .or the more ,who love it . There is a belief in Asian culture that if an object is kept and yet is unloved , in one hundred years these objects become possessed by evil spirits . Let us live and let live ,judgement and shaming serves no one ,embrace differences and let it be . Hoarding only really becomes a problem when if interfere s with one s health and well being .For example , when one cannot use their space for purpose , they cannot use their bathroom , or bedroom ,or kitchen .Truly ,our living envoiroment is a reflection of our inner world and I celebrate the diversity .
I love my stuff. I enjoy it and create stuff. I have stuff all around me, but I also have plenty of room to move around and it's neat and clean. I love seeing my stuff. Starkness is awful to me. It makes me very uncomfortable when there's no decoration in a space. It's almost an artform to arrange my stuff and I enjoy it.
I would tell these guys to stop dissing my stuff.
Who cares if someone who is not a psychiatrist at all calls another person mental ill? I think he's rude and brutal because he's insecure about his minimalism as solving all his problems? Often people who speak so loud and know everything so well, are overshouting their own insecureness. I think he means it well by saying, consuming is not helping you, your life will not be a 'they live happily ever after-fairy tale' after buying new shoes or bags or cars or whatever....And I think every adhd-er submits, or not🤔 But consuming for being happy after all and have your things around you to be inspired, is not the same thing....
I collect things I enjoy art/ craft supplies, Cd's and more than anything books. I do tend to fall on the hoarding side of things though. Not to the point that everywhere has piled of stuff but my cupboards are full. I wanted to heal before things got worse. So I'm stopping shopping for unnecessary stuff and I started to declutter. Because I fell down the minimalism rabbit hole. I was getting frustrated because I decluttered and still had lots of things. I love my books and CD's they hold memories for me. My boyfriend passed away in May I bought them in the charity shops when we went out together. I also have some that belonged to him. I'm so glad I found this video because I was feeling very stressed. Now I know that I can just keep my things I love and just relax! Thankyou.
I love colour, pattern and texture. Nature itself is clutter core. I wonder if these guys would love having a Monet painting hanging in their home...haha
The rich guy's bookcase freaked me out but then Laura's enthousiasm brought me back. Another great one, guys! Love the format of two people just having a conversation and Jesse coming in with relevant context, very Emperor's New Groove (compliment). Really curious about the bird stitch wall! I would also absolutely watch a full video on Marie Kondo and what her approach is/is not + your thoughts. Marta's very last words are so important! It's so lovely to see someone defend youth culture, and trying to understand what it's about instead of the boomer op eds about how gen z is killing facebook or whatever. Intergenerational solidarity!
finally!!! someone talking about what I've always thought but felt shamed by minimalism
The Minimalists are everything wrong with minimalism, and why people hate it.
They are just really intolerant of others' beliefs and lifestyles. No different from maximalists who rail against minimalism. I am a minimalist and they don't speak for me at all. The whole point of minimalism is to emphasize the things you need and love.
I’m so glad I found this video. I used to watch a lot of minimalism content because I thought it would be my answer. What I found, though, is that it mostly just made me sad, especially when that style was imposed on children. Children need different kinds of things to manipulate, experience, and explore. A child’s room that contains a bed, a dresser, and little else is just terribly sad to me.
It dawned on me lately that there’s a huge difference between having pretty things that you love and having stacks of mail and other clutter of that sort. I don’t care for stark spaces. I like warmth. I like visual interest. I like color. I feel overwhelmed when my space is untidy, but I wouldn’t be happy in a minimalist space.
Thank you so so much for the video and for sharing your experiences! Very interesting, I learned a lot :)
I just stumbled across the term cluttercore today and wanted to learn more. But I also really like the concept of minimalism (as in, owning less stuff for practical and buying less for environmental reasons, not the aesthetic), so I wondered if anybody had combined the two. All articles I found claimed they're polar opposites, and then I found that podcast...and immediately stopped listening after that bs quote.
Wow, first time I heard about different sensory styles, that makes so much sense! (pun intended)
The idea that hoarding is a mental illness sounds so weird to me cause like... we're hunters and gatherers, right? Doesn't it make perfect sense to hoard stuff in case of a harsh winter? Obvs not quite as necessary in modern times anymore, but certainly sounds like a perfectly well-functioning monkey brain.
So many of the cluttercore pictures I saw were of small rooms/apartments. No matter how little stuff you have, in a tiny space it'll always end up looking a bit cluttered. Meanwhile a lot of "minimalist" aesthetic apartments make a point of being huge empty rooms. (Just saw a video "how to tell you're a minimalist - your rooms echo".) Which obvs, a perfectly fine design choice for those who like it. But I'd guess that a huge empty apartment costs more than a tiny one filled with random nicnacs and a colourful wallpaper. (And you could argue it's not very minimalist when it comes to space...)
Ugh. It's always so disappointing when people get soooo close to grasping the problem. Although I guess expecting rich people to point out that capitalism = bad is maybe expecting too much.
In a lot of videos about minimalism (or related ideas) that I watched there was a stress on actually *using* the things that you own. Which, for decorational items surely would mean displaying them? Or even if things aren't strictly intended as decorations, if you use them as such then you'd get more use out of them, right? And it's perfectly possible to make a room *look* cluttered without actually much stuff in it. Start with a wallpaper with a busy pattern, put your cups and books (that you have/use anyway) on open shelves instead of behind a door, finish off with some pictures/postcards pinned to the walls and other random places. (The pictures are technically extra stuff, but hey, little pieces of paper don't actually account for much physical mass eh.)
So to me it sounds like (practical) minimalism and (aesthetic) cluttercore aren't mutually exclusive. Both also encourage you to think about your stuff, and what things are important to you.
My apartment is a special kind of live-in musseum. Just taking one look at these guys gives me the ick! Somehow I am happy they hate it and pathologize it cos I would not want them to staybin my glat fornone minute, I would want them to piss off immediately.... so itlf they are afraid of me they will stay away. Kind of fundamental rhinking but I made my place myvlittle fortress and it is filled qith clutter and memories and rarities and souvenirs and I love it.
I made it 31 seconds into this video before feeling compelled to write this comment - The 'Clip Guy' who uses the term "CLINGING TO" is conflating Buddhism Spiritual Concepts with Physical Existance Of Beings.
"Clinging" is a Buddhist concept & this Clip Fool has not bothered to do enough self-reflection to understand that his judgement of other beings puts him way further down the rebirth list than any Human Person Who Is Openly & Honestly Existing.
So yeah, sucks to be *that guy*.
Orright, I shall continue watching now, lol
Consumerism is buying random stuff mindlessly on a whim. Maximalism and cluttercore is mindful and intentional.
Unsubscribed from The Minimalists. Thank you. I was late diagnosed AuDHD & felt bad for my happy collections as I was always teased for it & thought they must be 'right'. Love your work!!
I feel like you we’re getting to the point. It’s not min against max, it’s two rich men who got lucky with an investment ignoring the fact it’s a fad, and as it shifted like all fads, they are mad they can’t make money off people. Most people are starting to do what works for them, and they can’t handle what worked for them (and made them money) isn’t always what works for others.
HOARDING is differents than being a maximalist!!!
Absolutely!, I’m a maximalist, design wise, I can walk through my apartment, and I can find my cat😂 I’m an artist/ designer, in a one bedroom apartment, so I kinda have no choice but to be maximalist, but, everything has a place
Thank you - so freeing and also affirming.
'the museums are not keepers of historical items and interest based categories. They are not archives, they are mental illnesses' - 'libraries are not archives as books, they are enabling mental illness' lol - what?
I think people should decorate their homes however they like and live whatever kind of lifestyle they so wish to. I personally am not into minimalism because I think their homes typically look so bland and lifeless, and like they aren’t lived in. And I’m personally not into that, but that’s okay. They can keep living like that if it makes them happy.
And while I love having a lot of things on display in my room, a lot of clutter core rooms would be a bit much for me because of sensory overload, but thats okay because I don’t live in those homes. Other people who are into clutter core live in them so if they like their homes thats all that matters.
And there is a big difference between clutter core and hoarding. Hoarders are unable to throw away anything so their homes become cluttered with actual garbage and are just overall unliveable. That is an actual mental illness. Maximalists however pick things out with some level of intent and they find a way to organise it all so that there is no garbage laying around and their homes are very liveable. These guys need to mind their own business and let people live however they wanna live.
Minimalism can become a pathology. "The Minimalist" have become pathological.
Josh...I love your hallway!!
I like William Morris's take on it, that you have nothing in your house that is not useful in beautiful to your eyes
How ignorant of them to throw the term “mental illness” around. Collecting, arranging, and displaying objects is a creative process. Minimalism, to me, is the opposite… a DEstructive lack of creativity.
What an absurd debate. I've heard as many people vehemently hate minimalism ( just look up I hate minimalism videos on UA-cam) as I have heard calling people who love being surrounded by tons of objects mentally ill hoarders. We all have different needs. Some people like their minimal white space and some people like the Rococo lifestyle and there are people who need a bit of both in different aspects of their lives. I feel that as a society we have succumbed to factionalism in every aspect of our lives. Why? They both have their value and everyone should decide what suits them without suffering judgement. The presenters here keep talking about how minimalists are judgmental but refer to minimalists environments as creepy and soulless implying that that people that enjoy those environments are somehow creepy or souless. If either environment disturbs you to the point where you wont go to someone's house because it somehow disturbs you to the point where you can't be there then you are the one with the problem . Live your life and accept other's.
Clutter core is just an excuse for over consumption, let’s be honest
The stark white room she describes with white paper on the books, and all that, sounds like a disorder to me…
Are you sure theyre not from zee WEF? "You'll own nothing and youll be happy"
ah, we are fighting two fool toxic masclinities who need a hug and permission to "Just Rest Dude"......? ok, enjoy, i'm out
I hated the film these guys are referencing. Found out recently I'm a maximalist as far as design aesthetic goes. I don't give a crap what other people do or like. I like what I like and am not out to prove anything to anyone but myself. This OG Gen X'er agrees with Gen Z
OMG SO WHAT.JUST DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW JUDGE THEM WTF IMPOSING OUR POINTS OF VIEW JUDGING THEM HELLO BOTH GUILTY FACT WERE ALL DIFFERENT. SO LEAVE THEM BE!!! WE CAN CHOSE TO NOT TO GO THERE. YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT NOW DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO
AGAIN LIVE AND LET LIVE
The guys are right. Cluttercore is bordering on hording if not outright hoarding. And l'm a therapist