From Germany: A few years ago I saw a documentary on the German-French television channel ARTE, "Die größten Sportduelle: Murrayfield 1990 Schottlad- England", (‘The greatest sporting duels: Murrayfield 1990 Scotland-England’). I was fascinated, especially by the passionate rendition of the Scottish anthem. Unfortunately it is missing in the video, but thanks for the complete game.
I've never felt an atmosphere like there was in Murrayfield that day - it was absolutely electric! We were standing in the old Red Terraces and could hear the force of the impacts as the Scots team put their bodies on the line defending their try line in the second half... Great thing was that, despite the tension of the atmosphere, when the final whistle went we all shook hands (ours was a mixed group of English and Scots supporters) and then went for a beer down the town!! ;-)
There are quite a few scrums from rucks collapsing, but so what? There was so much more space for backs then because forwards were in those pileups if the ball got cleared to the scrum half. All you have to do check Guscott's try to see what I mean. The worst thing about this game was David Bishop, the NZ referee, who didn't play advantage well. He seemed to love blowing on the whistle.
"He Scampered after it like a demented dingo" Ah Bill, how you are missed. Like eating your dinner off fine china with silver cutlery, Bills research, love of the game, and enjoyment of its idiosyncrasies brought such sophistication while never getting in the way of the drama on the pitch. Loving the scraggy scrums, no lift lineouts, penalty moves, full pack rucking. Normal body shapes, classy backs, ad hoc one man tackle defence, great ebb and flow. The regulators of the game today could learn a lot, maybe less regulation makes for a better game overall.
Alas, with professionalism and players being paid to train all the time the amount of power in scrums and tackles is a lot higher now, dangerously so without safety measures. I agree with you though - the game was a lot more fun to watch when people were a bit less fit.
In Panama we are in quarantine and these types of videos make the time at home more pleasant. I would like to see the first Scotland vs Italy match in the six nations.
I was only 4ish when this happened and never saw my first rugby match till 95 so as a Scotsman I feel required to watch this legendary game and Wow! What a game, it doesn't disappoint. It's amazing and kinda horrifying to watch rugby from this era but still this was a great game.
I thought for years that Stanger's 'try' wasn't grounded but looking at it here I think it was touched down or, at least, you couldn't fairly say it wasn't. At the time the best you could get was a blurry freeze frame on a video recorder. Now it is clearer you can see it was a try. Good to clear that up after 30 years. Now, the 1966 World Cup Final ...
So refreshing to watch a game like this as an antidote to today's dull stodge. Who knows, when the money runs out in the game it may revert back, over time. Good to see rugby involving fifteen men v fifteen men, instead of our thirty biggest pieces of meat against your thirty.
You and me both, Gordon. I understand some don't like the bars on the side of the screen, but for me this is far worse. Still, nice to see the game... even the players and officials do all look like they are 4'8" and 40st
England played technically better. Scotland played smarter, like wee Scottish Terriers snapping at the Bulldog's heels. Outstanding contest from beginning to end.
I was only ten when this game was played last time we Scots won a grand slam. Since the six nations began in 2000 we went backwards and couldn't compete with the top sides hopefully we will get close would like to see more lads playing rugby in Scotland cos we are short of depth.
It's not just lack of depth. It's also because the feeder schools and junior clubs are not what they were, and the rise of professionalism has compunded it.
agr78 Oh I totally agree the game is a lot more clean and free flowing nowadays but I was just pointing out how players no longer obey those rules. Also scrums are boring af and take up half the game now. But I prefer watching rugby now.
Why do Scottish Rugby have to import non Scottish players when they have great academies for young up and coming, dedicated Scots? Especially the untapped or encouraged in the Borders Region. Scotland don't need imports. We need Scottish bred and born.
I remember the first big "import" of a player: Rodriguez of Argentina moving to Australia and then playing for them, back in the 80s. Having said that, there are non-British/Irish that live in the UK and Ireland, and have for centuries, and thus there's Marcus Smith, a Filipino/English player born in Manila. I remember a Scots lass played for Scotland in the 90s who had my last name. So, Iberians have lived in the UK/Ireland for centuries. Prince Obolensky was a Russian, not English! It's immigration after all, but I get your point.
At 1:31 is the perfect example of a referee blowing up for a penalty when Scotland had the advantage off a perfect lineout feed to the backs, with Scott Hastings well over the gain line. You can see how pissed he is! So, the referee instead gives Ackford of England a ticking off, when he could have played advantage to see if Scotland could get further downfield. A referee can always "bring them back!" David Bishop, the referee from New Zealand, really screwed up more than just a few times in not playing advantage!
Refereeing in those days was straight forward and didnt really impact the Ebb and Flow of the game especially scrums today...Touch Hold Engage....Thats what me and my wife do every night....The Terms of Engagement....I Had a interview with my dads boss on a job and after he had a bet that England would beat Scotland hands down ...but i won my bet and fifty pounds and Scotland were incredible we according to the English msm had us written and were all deflated at The Scots Winning Triumphantly and the occasion was presided over And Commentation By Oor Wullie McClaren (Bill)....As Bill Would Probably Say...This Was His And Scotland's Finest Hour By The Man They Call Endearingly The Voice Of Rugby And Scotland's Greatest Supporter and Gracious In Neutrality And Bill Would Say...."Hes Like A Mad Giraffe (Oor Doddie Weir we all think of you Doddie and your family are in our prayers....Big Man ❤️)......Well Done Scotland and fifty £'s to the better a memory from an old man now but fondly remember this auspicious occasion and the sweet blackntan as well....Alba Gu Brath....
David Bishop of New Zealand didn't allow for that ebb and flow. Numerous times he failed to play advantage, especially at 1:31 of this video. You can see Scott Hastings was none too pleased!
These were the last of the amateur years, and about 15 years before the advent of polyester. These old shirts and shorts were cotton. Took little fossil fuel burning to manufacture them! Today? Lots of fossil fuel goes into players' kits.
From Germany:
A few years ago I saw a documentary on the German-French television channel ARTE, "Die größten Sportduelle: Murrayfield 1990 Schottlad- England", (‘The greatest sporting duels: Murrayfield 1990 Scotland-England’).
I was fascinated, especially by the passionate rendition of the Scottish anthem.
Unfortunately it is missing in the video, but thanks for the complete game.
No idea why this came up on my feed, but I was crying at the end just like I was back then - one of the happiest days of my life!
I've never felt an atmosphere like there was in Murrayfield that day - it was absolutely electric!
We were standing in the old Red Terraces and could hear the force of the impacts as the Scots team put their bodies on the line defending their try line in the second half...
Great thing was that, despite the tension of the atmosphere, when the final whistle went we all shook hands (ours was a mixed group of English and Scots supporters) and then went for a beer down the town!! ;-)
The confidence and speed is insane. 🏴
There are quite a few scrums from rucks collapsing, but so what? There was so much more space for backs then because forwards were in those pileups if the ball got cleared to the scrum half. All you have to do check Guscott's try to see what I mean. The worst thing about this game was David Bishop, the NZ referee, who didn't play advantage well. He seemed to love blowing on the whistle.
How gorgeous is it to hear Bill McLaren commentating?
Does he still commentate
Jonah Lomu Rugby commentator hey
Amazing. One of the grittiest Scottish performances ever.
"the English wingers tend to appear all over the park like demented prairie dogs"
There will never be another bill McLaren 💞
"He Scampered after it like a demented dingo"
Ah Bill, how you are missed. Like eating your dinner off fine china with silver cutlery, Bills research, love of the game, and enjoyment of its idiosyncrasies brought such sophistication while never getting in the way of the drama on the pitch.
Loving the scraggy scrums, no lift lineouts, penalty moves, full pack rucking. Normal body shapes, classy backs, ad hoc one man tackle defence, great ebb and flow. The regulators of the game today could learn a lot, maybe less regulation makes for a better game overall.
Alas, with professionalism and players being paid to train all the time the amount of power in scrums and tackles is a lot higher now, dangerously so without safety measures. I agree with you though - the game was a lot more fun to watch when people were a bit less fit.
In Panama we are in quarantine and these types of videos make the time at home more pleasant.
I would like to see the first Scotland vs Italy match in the six nations.
Thank you for this Scottish Rugby... Bloody fantastic!
I was only 4ish when this happened and never saw my first rugby match till 95 so as a Scotsman I feel required to watch this legendary game and Wow! What a game, it doesn't disappoint. It's amazing and kinda horrifying to watch rugby from this era but still this was a great game.
Enjoyed that 🏴👍
Finley Calders tackle on Mick the Munch Skinner is Sublime.
Wonderful!
I thought for years that Stanger's 'try' wasn't grounded but looking at it here I think it was touched down or, at least, you couldn't fairly say it wasn't. At the time the best you could get was a blurry freeze frame on a video recorder. Now it is clearer you can see it was a try. Good to clear that up after 30 years. Now, the 1966 World Cup Final ...
Beautiful game
Finday Calder and wee Gary Armstrong the maist underrated players at least by the English
A Great Match it was !
Great pride for the Scots
What a game 🏆. I watched to hear the commentary 😁
Scotland were worthy winners of The Grand Slam in 1990. End of.
Brilliant game!
They thought all they had to do was turn up and it would be handed to them on a silver platter. Scotland had OTHER ideas, however! 😂😂😂😂
So refreshing to watch a game like this as an antidote to today's dull stodge. Who knows, when the money runs out in the game it may revert back, over time. Good to see rugby involving fifteen men v fifteen men, instead of our thirty biggest pieces of meat against your thirty.
The nerd in me is being triggered by this 4:3 image being stretched to 16:9...
You and me both, Gordon. I understand some don't like the bars on the side of the screen, but for me this is far worse. Still, nice to see the game... even the players and officials do all look like they are 4'8" and 40st
my dad took the bus from London to edinburgh, queued from 4am, still didnt get tickets for the game😕.
England played technically better. Scotland played smarter, like wee Scottish Terriers snapping at the Bulldog's heels. Outstanding contest from beginning to end.
I was only ten when this game was played last time we Scots won a grand slam. Since the six nations began in 2000 we went backwards and couldn't compete with the top sides hopefully we will get close would like to see more lads playing rugby in Scotland cos we are short of depth.
It's not just lack of depth. It's also because the feeder schools and junior clubs are not what they were, and the rise of professionalism has compunded it.
@@gavinedinburgh I see what your saying hope that area gets sorted out too
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Ah back when put ins were straight and players were onside at Kick off
When all the players did was kick the game and the ref blew the bloody whistle. Rugby union was dreadful back then
agr78 Oh I totally agree the game is a lot more clean and free flowing nowadays but I was just pointing out how players no longer obey those rules. Also scrums are boring af and take up half the game now. But I prefer watching rugby now.
Who is the Scottish commentator? He’s got such a unique voice that I really appreciate for rugby … wish he commentated Australian matches
Bill Mclarren.
Bill McLaren one of the most famous rugby commentators
Friday 17th April 1990
Halcyon days
Beaumont was always so bias with his comments.
My dad always said that , especially so in this game
He is not biased he is seeing it through an Englishmans eyes. FFS. He was a great player.
I was at this match with my English mate he was gutted🤣
Scot.genial
Is it me or they seem to go extremely fast??
the last time Scotland played as well as they talked eh?
Shame they have to sprint down the tunnel straight away at the end.
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Why do Scottish Rugby have to import non Scottish players when they have great academies for young up and coming, dedicated Scots? Especially the untapped or encouraged in the Borders Region. Scotland don't need imports. We need Scottish bred and born.
I remember the first big "import" of a player: Rodriguez of Argentina moving to Australia and then playing for them, back in the 80s. Having said that, there are non-British/Irish that live in the UK and Ireland, and have for centuries, and thus there's Marcus Smith, a Filipino/English player born in Manila. I remember a Scots lass played for Scotland in the 90s who had my last name. So, Iberians have lived in the UK/Ireland for centuries. Prince Obolensky was a Russian, not English! It's immigration after all, but I get your point.
@@ldfreitas9437 Thank you.
At 1:31 is the perfect example of a referee blowing up for a penalty when Scotland had the advantage off a perfect lineout feed to the backs, with Scott Hastings well over the gain line. You can see how pissed he is! So, the referee instead gives Ackford of England a ticking off, when he could have played advantage to see if Scotland could get further downfield. A referee can always "bring them back!" David Bishop, the referee from New Zealand, really screwed up more than just a few times in not playing advantage!
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Refereeing in those days was straight forward and didnt really impact the Ebb and Flow of the game especially scrums today...Touch Hold Engage....Thats what me and my wife do every night....The Terms of Engagement....I Had a interview with my dads boss on a job and after he had a bet that England would beat Scotland hands down ...but i won my bet and fifty pounds and Scotland were incredible we according to the English msm had us written and were all deflated at The Scots Winning Triumphantly and the occasion was presided over And Commentation By Oor Wullie McClaren (Bill)....As Bill Would Probably Say...This Was His And Scotland's Finest Hour By The Man They Call Endearingly The Voice Of Rugby And Scotland's Greatest Supporter and Gracious In Neutrality And Bill Would Say...."Hes Like A Mad Giraffe (Oor Doddie Weir we all think of you Doddie and your family are in our prayers....Big Man ❤️)......Well Done Scotland and fifty £'s to the better a memory from an old man now but fondly remember this auspicious occasion and the sweet blackntan as well....Alba Gu Brath....
David Bishop of New Zealand didn't allow for that ebb and flow. Numerous times he failed to play advantage, especially at 1:31 of this video. You can see Scott Hastings was none too pleased!
These were the last of the amateur years, and about 15 years before the advent of polyester. These old shirts and shorts were cotton. Took little fossil fuel burning to manufacture them! Today? Lots of fossil fuel goes into players' kits.