Dr Chee Soon Juan Almost Joined PAP?! (ft. Dr. Chee Soon Juan & Jade Rasif) | TDK Podcast
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Dr Chee Soon Juan joins us for a special episode to share the journey of how he got into politics, the challenges he fought for and how politics affected his private life.
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• Daniel Lim / danlim11
• Jonathan Paul / jonathanpaul.sxw
• Denise Oh / ohthedenise
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• Daren Khek
• Charlene Goh
• Amirul Nashtrie
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Crelyn Chai
Dr Chee + Jade Rasif must be the most random and unexpected podcast duo
Not exactly. Even before this podcast, I felt that beneath the skin, jade is an intelligent and journalistic individual with strong opinions with no holding back on her beliefs. Without jade, this podcast wouldn't have been insightful. Period
Yes.
Dr Chee is the guy that LKY was so adamant to get out of Parliament. That alone speaks volume.
Just had this episode on my recommendations… totally blown, unfortunately not in the literal sense, by Jade with her questions. So much substance and thoughts to draw out insightful answer from CSJ. ❤❤
OMFG It's Dr Chee. I havent even watched any of this yet but damnnn... kudos for having him on
wow, you know, you don't have to like this guy but i think some respect for persevering at this for 30 years despite being thrown in jail, bankrupted etc. thanks team for doing this, this is meaningful and pertinent. no, i'm not even a opposition supporter. and kudos to jade for openly saying yeah i went to his book signing, so what
chee soon juan likes focusing on insignificant stuff but missed the big picture altogether. he would have done well in america but singapore is too smart to fall for those issues
Comon she's just side tracking to show her support for Dr. Chee and his ideas. Don't have to be a bitch bout it
@@pepelepew1227 insignificant stuff like what?
@@pepelepew1227 Wow! Where have you been when CSJ has spoken at his rallies and all the protests that he hosted? YOU MUST HAVE BEEN DRIFTING THROUGH LIFE & STAY BLIND N STUPID!
Because thats his identity. If he leave politics and stopped being opposition, he feel that he might be a nobody. At least he is someone even as a constant losing opposition member.
thank you for giving dr chee a platform to voice his views and story!! this is helpful to enlighten gen z that watches this podcast about sg politics. respect to dr chee, he is the voice and hero that this country needs.
It will never be easy walking a different path from others.
Jade Rasif is a very intelligent and very straight to the point.Dr. Chee has all my respect deserve to be a minister.Welldone guys for this show. This will never be allowed Ten twenty years ago.
Just saw this, Jade is diplomatic and corrects some style of questioning. Hence put the interviewee at ease. Well done Jade.
Thank you, Dr Chee for fighting for Singaporeans when don't even fight for ourselves.
Definitely wasn't expecting this guest along with Jade but thanks for inviting Dr. Chee! This was a great episode. I hope more people will watch this.
I think jade has been promoting Dr Chee or at least supporting sdp forever since I think it sparked off with the 377a ruling (I may be wrong)
Very good podcast however I felt that the podcast is being cut short and more can be offered from Dr. Chee. Hopefully there will be a follow up podcast. Kudos to jade for the intelligent questions.
Want more of CSJ? Go watch SDP videos and his speeches.
As a fellow viewer who has followed Johnathan Chua from Real Talk to The Daily Ketchup Podcast… I’m so glad it has evolved to such an enriching content. It makes me really happy to see new videos and I feel like I could have more open conversations on heavy topics like these amongst friends with different perspectives without taking things personally. Super thankful!!!!!
i miss the naughty talks. this is soo boring.
@@pepelepew1227 maybe TikTok is more suited for you. Just saying 🙂
They're kinda different content right?
@@pepelepew1227 haha to each their own. I’m sorry that you don’t like to have intelligent conversations
I’m one of those people who have been brainwashed to believe that Dr Chee is crazy etc. But I’m glad I gave myself a chance to try to understand his story and what he stands for. What a true patriot!
your team is brave! Thanks for bringing Dr Chee onboard!
That's a frightening thought eh in a democratic society such as Singapore where it takes courage to have an opposition party member appear on a podcast.
For full context, I am referring to the point discussed between 39:46 to 40:47.
I cannot fully agree with Dr CSJ. Most of what he said is true. But because this is such a young audience, people forgot what he did to get himself into all that legal troubles. If CSJ tried to discredit ministers representing the government by presenting fake/unsubstantiated evidence, then he ought to be punished for it. This has nothing to do with "scoring points in a parliamentary debate" and trying to build cordial relationships outside of a parliamentary debate.
The simple question we can ask is why then were people like Mr Chiam and Mr Low well-respected opposition leaders who spoke their mind but did not get sued. Also, not forgetting how CSJ backstabbed Mr Chiam. There were questionable things he did which served as red flags to his character and now he is trying to brush it under the carpet and paint himself as a political victim.
And may I also say that this podcast is rather biased mainly because Jade is the one leading the narrative. It has moved away from the usual neutral position TDK has taken. Also, here we are using today's political and social view to judge 1990's politics.
lol well said. you basically type out what i have in mind after listening to the entire podcast. kudos to you
Nonsense, the reason chiam and low were tolerated is because with, all due respect, they don't pose a threat. Think about it this way. There is a space called "opposition" in our political structure. If chiam and low don't fill it, someone else will. So it is in the interest of the government to have people who are not dangerous in that space otherwise you have a vacuum and someone like chee could fill that. It's the same reason why a "dissenter" like tommy koh is tolerated. Because he is ultimately ineffective.
I also wonder how many people went to google what exactly went down - why he was sued/jailed - they made it so skewed towards Dr Chee.
Totally agreed, Jade has been leading and steering the course through out the interview with an agenda to influence the operation of CSJ. TDK shld be leading the questioning and be fair and objective on the topic which TDK is doing great except for this episode.
Jade thank u for coverin up for this episode u show a different side of you and thank you for being yourself always. I admire you for ur bravery and being able to speak up always. Continue to shine on bright like a diamond
I THOUGHT HE WAS 40+ THEN HE SAID "20 yrs ago when i was in my 40s" IM SHOOKED
I actually remember Dr Chee hawking his book “live” in person. Those were the days. Even Mr Jeyaratnam shouting “The Hammer” …. For better or worse , good or bad, the passion and drive of hese men are respectable truly.
this guy took the hard road, against all odds and disappointment,he never gave up. when i was young i thought he is one of the bad guys thats always against the government, because thats how media portrays him. but as i grew up, i understand more about our society and give some thoughts of his motive. i glad now theres internet and social media so youngsters can understand more about the current affair and politics in Singapore, rather than relying on the newspaper and tv which is heavily controlled.
Really have to respect Dr Chee.
Congratulations TEAM you have done Singapore and Singaporeans Proud via a truly Insightful and Purposeful Podcast. If there's one word as a manifestation of Dr Chee, it is RESILIENCE Par Excellence!!!. Congratulations Guys. SG
Feels like Dr Chee still has so much more to share. Hope there will be a Part 2 someday
Excellent from Dr Chee, can we get Mr Pritam Singh next?
Great shout.
That could be very interesting, 'coz like Dr Chee, PS speaks with commitment, clarity n compassion.
Simply respect Dr. Chee. his courage and determination.... I was borned in the 60 and I witnessed a true blue Singaporean that truly I called my hero of Singapore. Thank you Dr. Chee.
Really great episode. This topic may not be as popular as your other juicier episodes and generate as much views, but it’s been one of the most interesting ones! I enjoyed the dynamics between the team, Jade and Dr Chee, and this showed a different side to both Dr Chee and Jade that I didn’t know about before. Jade was really attentively listening to Dr Chee and it was nice to see everyone give Dr Chee a safe space to share his side of the story and experiences. The questions asked were really great, and allowed me not just to know Dr Chee better as a political figure, but as a person. 😊
Really like how balanced this podcast is by providing a neutral platform for various political conversations to occur. Guess that is what "being human" is about.
honestly my fav episode to date
Very happy to see guests from all walks of life!
I almost have forgotten that women in sg were discriminated by the sg ruling party before. Thanks for highlighting it. Another point not mention was that the poors in sg were also discriminated by the rulling party before with regards to the number of children they should have. Thankfully, those were the days, and not now. But the memories of those days would be part of sg history.
Didnt expect dr chee to be in podcast
Respect for Dr Chee and Jade!
Damn this Dr Chee even though is much elder than the rest his voice sounds like a very good narrator.
The man does triathlons at 60!
14:19
I actually disagree with this. Purely from an academics standpoint he may appear like a typical PAP candidate, but everything else about him really isn't.
He's cleary a pretty smart guy, but his values are very westernised and leftist. Much more of an idealist than a pragmatist (Which is the number 1 typical trait of PAP ministers. They are super pragmatic and do things that feel are right no matter what. And in the past this was insensitive and at the detriment to the minorities)
The way he talks emotionally with large tone variations and expressions is nice to listen too but is very reminiscent of politicians from western countries, and different from PAPs no fluff no smoke straight to the point communication style. (Watch how PAP ministers discussed things with each other in parliament in the 90s/2000s)
So PAP would not have dared to touch a candidate like Jamus as he's too far from their ideals. Someone who actually genuinely fit PAPs ideals was Chen Show Mao. But he just quietly disappeared, never to be heard of again.
One of the best episodes!
think i was having lunch with my colleague in 2000s, we saw Dr Chee distributing their party pamphlets, my colleague straight away look away and ask me to ignore him. I was confused as im not into politics. I ask him why are u so afraid of Dr Chee?
He said that the newspapers mentioned Dr Chee is a crazy/mad man. During that time internet wasn't as advance compared to todays technology. Anyway I really hope Dr Chee win a seat in the parliament in the next election
PAP has done a decent job bringing SG to where it is today. I can recognise that some policies have to be tougher, for example policies that ppl may don’t like but looking back 20years on, it’s for the betterment of the country and I’m thankful for what the PAP has done.
Dr Chee, yes right that he can share the various values he holds, but at times it’s just untruth or statements which proper fact checking or homework that was not done just to put the other party on a lower stage. I’m sorry, but this is unacceptable to the people.
So pap is so holy that they told only the truth, nothing but the truth???? Keep dreaming.
@@daisylai2991 you then keep dreaming. Nobody say PAP is holy. But what Spore need is a strong party who is willing to do the right and unpopular thing not like the opposite clown nowadays who is out to please you all but don't care about the future of the country
Dude, Jade was so disrespectful to Daniel asking questions
Jade led the whole interview in a meaningful and respectful manner.
Jade is biased
The magnanimity of Dr Chee is one full of Grace. God bless you, sir.
Previously I was not thinking highly of Dr Chee but I have turned my mind now.
He is so generous to forgive the political suppression against him. It wins my heart.
Very good, and learnt a lot from this.
If Anwar can become PM, I am sure this guy can enter parliament one day too. His support base is getting stronger now
Please do more podcasts by bringing in Jade Rasif...she is awesome!!
For a long time, the spectre of Chiam hung over Chee. It is doubtful that Chiam was totally the victim and Chee, the perpetrator. But of course, some versions of events took on a life of their own. It's good that things have moved on.
im glad im not the only one taking all the fun out of The Daily Ketchup podcast
Vividly remembered walking by and avoiding Dr Chee selling his book and ringing his 'Salvation Army' bell at Orchard Center Point, thinking he was some kinda bad guy shouting in the air like some kind of wet market vendor ! Many years later, I now perceive more clearly who are the real bad guys.
There are no good guys in politics.
Without the PAP govt policies on education, housing, CPF, defence, employment, and Foreign Direct Investments, your parents would not have married and you would not be born. Exercise critical thinking before believing Opposition politicians with sweet tongue and vested interests.
Theres no clear “good” and “bad” in politics, having a clear distinction is having a too simplistic view
Slow but better late than never.
@@aaastoogesyeah but everyone thought you were a “Mad Dog”, with your face splashed across ST headlines.
So many better questions could have been asked like how was jail like and aspirations for the country this point onwards etc. Where's Denise!
Unexpected guest duo
Jamus next?
Yucks… that snake oil seller
LKY was right but not political right. Chee Soon Chuan was wrong and also political wrong. Been observing, watching Singapore and the political development since the 70s till today. Singapore is what it is today because of LKY, Singapore rich human resources and the common uniting language, beautiful Singlish !. Soon Chuan was sponsored and donated from foreign interference.
All Credit Solely to LKY ? …. Utter Rubbish 😂😂😂
Singapore still has a long way to go in terms of political maturity
enough social media trends,
More topics like this. Real issues
Did he mentioned his relationship with Chiam See Tong and how he got rid of Chiam from SDP?
Jade Rasif actually makes a good journalist.
Chee soon juan shld join forces with the ruling party to make Singapore a strong nation. Sometimes opposition can be a nuisance if they oppose for opposing sake. Look at USA how divided on internal policies except dealing with foreign countries and waging war, what a united voice they have.
Human right 👍✌️🙏
Holy! Interview LHL next please?
That 1 watch rally ba
Cry baby
lol. That guy probably say ill use mediacorp and press conference with pre allocated questions instead.
For the safe environment of Singaporean, rules must be compiled
Say what you want about Dr. Chee, credit to him for his strength and perseverance despite what he and his family went through for years. Did he make mistakes? For sure but his mistakes or wrongs were also grossly amplified by the media. I see some old tired talking points about his western, leftist views. Is wanting a fairer and more equitable society only a western / leftist / liberal concept? YT comments is not a place for debate and those who espouse such views aren't likely to change their opinions of him either. And i'll say no more.
Kid, to this day, CSJ has not started any charity hospitals, orphanage or better charity schools. Neither has he built any NGO for the poor and handicapped in SG. Good intentions about "fairness and equitable society" are meaningless without delivering better. CSJ was all propaganda and ideology without positive action.
Great ketchup as usual! Highlight of this episode was by far John's indulgent boba ASMR. The succulence of the pearls shined through with every chewy bite in what is undoubtedly a finely brewed beverage, which parallels the deep and meaningful conversation on life and politics between 5 intelligent people, creating a truly visceral podcast experience.
Verdict: 4 Stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐
Typically up close and personal as you would expect from a Daily Ketchup Show, interesting stories aplenty. Disclaimer: High fidelity chewing sounds may induce misophonia, viewer discretion is advised.
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Jokes aside, loved this episode
Within PAP itself, do the members always agree with one another? What if opposition members such as Dr Chee were in PAP, and offer their opinions respectfully to the benefit of the people in Singapore?
Can we get Jade in every upcoming podcast? She's just sooooo soooo good❤
Drink a shot whenever Dr. Chee says "so on and so forth"
why is Denise not here for this episode!!!!
Great episode and discussion 👏 👏
😂😂😂 pay and pay till today 😢😢😢
Youngsters today hate to pay and pay ….
Prefer to have Welfare & Patience’s 🎉🎉🎉
Political history is required of him.
Back then 90s SG life was good, diploma 3k and graduates 5k get high salary enough to pay for a 5 room flat which costs 100k+ and condo 500k, so there was not a need to oppose...there were much less immigrants. Other countries' like china's development really put so much pressure on sg govt.
Dr Chee is so rich in his spirit. Even though he is not yet an MP, he is already effecting changes in Spore and beyond
Remember Wong Hong Toy the snake that almost destroyed WP and SDP....this lao uncle really is da best man no horse run
Follow your rules.
His voice is soooo calming
Dr chee a hero that sgporean dont deserve
When someone is in the room, address the person using his or her name rather than the impersonal "him" or "he". It is rather rude not acknowledge someone, especially a guest. This is not a criticism; just an observation.
plenty of people joined the PAP, some join without understanding the values of the party, thinking it is a social movement. to then say that "I was invited to join the Young PAP", is such a buey paiseh comment. It's not like he was invited to stand for elections as a PAP candidate. I was invited to join SDP and NSP on the streets just like how many SDP, NSP members were recruited. Do I know go around blowing the horn that I was invited to join SDP? Even being invited to tea sessions is not a big deal, I personally know a certain 1x opposition party leader who failed the tea session and immediately went cozying up to an already old an frail former opposition MP so that he could stand for elections with a ready flag. failed to win and left the scene.
Jade Rasif doesn't know what she's talking about re: the party whip. PAP MPs air their differing views in parliament regarding policies all the time. It is allowed. The party whip simply requires all MPs to take the same stance when it is time to implement vote and implement the policy. This is what it takes to be a party.
THIS IS WHY JADE RASIF WAS SO WORRIED ABOUT HER TOP HAHAHAH
much respect dr chee.
Pushback...
Chee is articulate...
can invite lawrence wong and dr chee together on the podcast mah
Kudos to you guys for your guts 😊☺️ to host CSJ. Unlike those kiasi & kiasu cowards who only host PAP bootlickers. Keep it up, guys!
Part 2 🙏🙏
Jade going fan girl for Dr Chee
Dr Chee has changed so much
Don't be fool by him. If he was to change pigs will fly
In PAP’s camp, the mudslinging is in, well, full swing. Throw in character assassination and lowblows into that mix too and it would really make the Bukit Batok resident wonder if all the grandiose Parliamentary speeches about ‘Constructive Politics‘ that these very men and women once delivered were merely for show. During the first PAP rally held in Bukit Batok Stadium on Friday evening, a chunk of the speeches from Minister Grace Fu and Mdm Halimah Yacob was dedicated to disparaging Dr Chee. Minister Fu’s words were, to say the least, contrary to her portfolio as the Minister for Culture and Community,
Dr Chee hopes to be a full-time MP, but you should note he’s not actually giving up a full-time job. As far as I know, he hasn’t held a steady job for many years. Let me be clear. I’m not criticizing his position to not hold a full-time job for so long. That is his personal choice. But the work experience, or the lack of it, is a relevant fact when we consider the credentials of the candidate.
In a move that was anything but graceful, she even asked Dr Chee if he had a “referral letter from Mr Chiam See Tong.” Perhaps she, just like her fellow Minister, Vivian Balakrishan, should be schooled by Dr PJ Thum on the ‘history of backstabbing.’
The racial agreement must be maintained at all costs. Easy to incite but difficult to maintain peace.
that one can of red bull was barely sufficient to keep john paul awake. hope he is alright man.
Respect for Dr Chee
Decades later, I continue to lament the demise of Sintercom. The original forum for socio-political discourse in the 2000s. I hope everyone who was there at the time are well and of good health! ~ from watchdog
Hummmm...this is interesting.... "what is legal, may not be right... what is illegal, may not be wrong..." :)
Am deeply touch by loving, powerful and beautiful heart of a dad... " I m rich because I have you..." is not about having millions dollars salary.... :)
Cafe is also a catalyse for Art movements to flourish... eg Impressionism and Cubism
Thank you for reaching out and serving the poor, elderly and weak...
Omg. The person who betrayed his mentor Mr Chiam See Tong and robbed his mentor's party.
His mentor also said it out loud in Parliament that Chee soon Juan is a megalomania.
well ....at least he isnt out and about having sex scandals or corruption scandals or whatever unlike...... oh and he wasn't a translator for the japs in world war 2 either, betraying his country while thousands of others are being slaughtered....lol just saying...
@mohdmuzzy4163 if he can betrayed his mentor and robbed his mentor in modern days without life threatening to himself I wonder what can he do to the country and citizens.
Also if he could cheat during a hunger strike probably he could cheat other things if he was in power. Corruption?
Just saying. Lol
And I was wondering when will pap ib make their appearance.
There is no civility in politics! Just look around the world! They are right or you are right? This is a group of young idealistic people who are born with a silver spoon in their mouths and grew up through the age of prosperity that Singapore created through our government and now they are talking theory, western theory about civility in politics. They have never been through hardship, truely challenging living conditions. Listen to them with a pinch of salt. They may sound very reasonable and logical but in the situation when they lose everything that Singapore has to offer, the first thing in their mind would be how to survive rather than how to take care of others.
better check his credit alert
Wow I’m really seeing him in a different light now. Great epi!
Aiya where is Deniseeeeeeee
Jade’s questions are very interesting
Always talk bad about Singapore in western countries when he was young
I kinda disagree with the common belief that political games are a necessary evil - it's just something that we hear all the time, and assume to be true. I strongly suspect that the political games only cater to the fanatics who already treat politics like sports, and wouldn't change their vote anyway; it's the middle ground/swing voters who would be amenable to being civil and having a discussion, and would be swayed accordingly. and these are the people that have you win elections. just look around you - it IS like that.
Have you been sleeping throughout your entire life? You don't know how the US leaders fool the world over 911, the attack of Saddam Hussein and currently the Covid-19 & inflation?
You must be a joker. The SG government policies do not affect yourself, your parents and children a single bit? They are not politicians who implement the policies to disrupt the common folks? How about the transport fares that the SGs are currently paying?
Can bring Pritam Singh please?
Pritam Singh next!
Where is Denise??