Chee Soon Juan is truly Singaporean. What he has said is honest, upright, moral and basically the truth. He threads the middle ground and is reasonable. We should have him in Parliament. The PAP is stale; govern through fear mongering; lacking ideas and using their strength in Parliament to do the party's bidding. This is a great interview.
Jade seems infatuated with Chee, and it brings bias. btw just because someone point finger at PAP govt does not mean that person is telling the facts and truth, hor. Chee nor Jade has done nothing to help the SG poor or disabled.
@@scbchong6964 Nor do your comments justify the actions of the PAP. Who are you to determine if Jade or Chee has not done anything to help the poor and disabled in Singapore? Have you: (1) Made a thorough investigation into their lives? Many people do plenty in their private lives and do not publicise what they do. They are also not accountable to you as they are not in public service. (2) Compared the salaries of the PAP ministers with those of Jade and Chee? (3) Why would anyone compare someone who is in the field of public service with citizens whose jobs are not the same and are not paid for it?
btw jade is a damn good panelist - really appreciate that she does her research/knows her shit/has a good head that has thought through the issues. if you guys can convince her to do this more regularly, please do!
I remember roughly 10 years back WP mentioned a program very similar to the past 2 year's built back stronger policies and also the WSG schema. What I roughly rmb was WP's white paper suggested a 6 months assurance package to help retrenched workers to have a certain amount of payout + career support. Their suggestion was a suggestion to compliment the upgrading programs which singapore was already running back then. The payment for such a package is like insurance deduction but from the paychecks directly. So if you work fulltime you're automatically enrolled. What I think i still rmbed was that the progressive wage schemes back then were not yet in place and the idea of providing safety net for those retrenched was also almost non-existent. That's all I rmb, saying these in respond to Jade's comment that WP did not suggest for retrenchment packages.
Since PAP and especially LKY and GCT is so afraid of Dr Chee being legitimately in Parliament. I want to vote Dr Chee in. I’m SURE and CONFIDENT that there will be positive changes especially to my children’s generation. 👍🏻
in my view PAP need to be more transparent as they are among the top 5 govt in the world. More explanation should be done to citizens on how they craft their policies, not just POFMA but their economic right wing policies, amt of reserves and usage of reserves, about why the need to import foreigners endlessly, the need to tax and using CPF to collect back more SGD to the central bank is just to strengthen currency? Opposition parties are formed due to PAP's secrecy. If they could explain then opposition would not have exist easily.
After listening to nearly one hour of the interview, I still don't understand what he is trying to achieve for Singapore? How are we going to get there? And by there, I mean where? He painted a somewhat vague, contradictory and lofty ideals of a "liberal society" which doesn't quite sit well. One moment talking about the negative effects of being too materialistic, how life is not about the big bucks, comparing auntie sweeping the floor vs banker sitting at pinnacle of the building. The next moment talking about his conversation with a billionaire, how Singapore lacks the entrepreneurial climate, how the stifling culture is unable to produce the likes of steve jobs, jk rowling etc. So how do you reconcile the need to be innovative, break new grounds, advancing and making progress for society without the negative consequences of materialism? A good storyteller or academic scholar at best, but if he is being thrust into the position of a policy maker, I have my doubts.
The problem is Opposition supporters are educated white-collar middle class yet kpkb and so entitled, greedy and self-important. They forgot that PAP need strong laws because many singaporeans are inconsiderate, quarrelsome, greedy and selfish.
Do yourself a favour by doing some homework and finding out more about what he is doing, what he has done for the past 3 years and what he intends to do, instead of hoping for answers to be fed to u... laziness begets laziness... rofl
@@benjaminyh6252 o wow, so to be considered diligent and not lazy is to follow whatever he does and say blindly? Thank you but no thank you for the tip.
You are talking about a country Leh.. fail again.. Singapore will not rise again, coz the world has changed.. how many entrepreneurs succeed.. there is a lot of lose. Dr Chee, was short of saying that "things are currently good" 33:27.. then change to fearful of the unknown. .. For people now, I think, people are not voting out of fear, but rather voting the safeguard what they have. If our current govt cannot protect what we have today or move ahead, you will see the current govt being voted out...
yes i agree.. Dr Chee , how do you even compare a company and a country taking risk? No govt is perfect and no govt can make everybody happy...thats a fact. But to the point of taking risk on a group of disunited opposition and having a positive outcome is as good as the odds of winning toto.
@@daisylai2991 PAP never steal your money lah. You are educated white-collar middle class yet kpkb and so entitled, greedy and self-important. PAP need strong laws because many singaporeans are inconsiderate, quarrelsome, greedy and selfish. Think about it.
@Nil Nil I hope u are not making an irresponsible comment when u state that the current incumbent is safeguarding something that people have If u are just contented and satisfied with safeguard, it's pretty obvious u are not progressing and improving... U are regressing indeed and instead It's likened to u telling me putting your money in a Milo tin or in your savings account is damn safe, when in fact u are losing money to past inflation and recent enhanced inflationary pressures Quite apparent Temasek has failed to safeguard our investments with their recent failed ventures in Grab, FTX and Zilingo etc... People like u are the ones who cause the nation to regress or come to a standstill
34:09 how right CSJ is, Singaporeans keep comparing with the worse, this quote i hear many times ' lucky u not in Philippines, lucky u not in india, lucky u not in malaysia blah blah blah but the reality is these people are coming to replace you and your children's jobs so who are the lucky ones in the end? look around you , based on our poor fertility rate, is there a need for such an enormous amount of BTOs and condos? who is actually buying them? leave it to you to guess lah.
Just wish to point out one point on POFMA from Chee. Please do not blur the line between YOU and fellow Singaporeans. You are a POLITICIAN and no doubt about this, you don't have total freedom in your speech and that ALL the things you say to public must come with truth than alternative facts created or reference from alternative narrow news media or statistics whatsoever. Versus me common citizen where i share my view like this i say Chee a politician is actually indian. Politicians have audiences and people take in your views and mine differently. All in all, broadly speaking in singapore's context, with a super high standard govt, it makes oppposition harder to find fault points in their policies, but mostly just tweaking left and right, to do better here and there. There is literally little chance you can call out a total rogue policy you can totally oppose like in the 50s. If you are a responsible politicians, you don't tear the trust, but build trust. Singapore have too much to lose today to vote on the wrong basis "to send voices in parliament", soon such basis will displace an efficient govt for the wrong reason. That will be so so crazy.
As much as I respect the work Dr Chee has done, it is much easier to criticise the government's policies with vague flagrant remarks rather than offering real solutions
The problem with Opposition supporters is they are educated white-collar middle class yet kpkb and so entitled, greedy and self-important. PAP need strong laws because many singaporeans are inconsiderate, quarrelsome, greedy and selfish. Just because you have Freedom of Speech the lies will stop? And these are working adults, hor.
Imagine you hire a building contractor and they do a shoddy job. You "criticize" their work and the contractor asks you: "Can you do a better job? If not, you should shut up." Now imagine if you hired the most expensive contractor in the world and they responded thusly to you. This applies to every job you hire someone to do. Can you cook as well as the chef you've hired? Can you paint as well as the painter you've commissioned? Can you write as well as the author who wrote a book you've bought? Using this retort, anyone can claim to be the best in their field with no accountability.
If u want real solution. U goz to vote him in to be in the position to execute reqp solution and policies. Right? Otherwise why are we paying millions for the ministers while expecting oppositions to do the real works.
I wouldn't call having your life crushed at every opportunity for years and still sticking to your convictions 'easier'. Juxtapose that with the minister who said she'd have to reconsider her position if there was to be a 10% pay decrease to their million dollar salary.
If you want to have regulations to control freedom of speech from going out of hand, then what's freedom of speech ? If I am not allowed to say certain things, then there's no freedom of speech. In Singapore, there can never be outright freedom of speech.
I hope the ministry of home affairs will send a spokesperson to respond to this issue so as no one will misunderstand the laws in our country. I trust our government.
While some of his views are valid, most of his stance is just founded on the basis of a need to have options. Granted he might have been wrongly oppressed in the past, one do wonder if he's fighting for the sake of fighting because of that oppression. Some of his views also felt a little outdated with examples quoted from far back. Great to have Jade to balance views - particularly the debates on POFMA.
"Change" for the sake of "Change"? Change does not mean better. Chee never worked for the poor or the underprivileged. Only full of ideology of liberal-rights-democracy from USA CIA propaganda. Nothing about education, better jobs, retraining, defence, preserving and building natural resources.
I don’t want a party that only appear during election and disappear afterward and complain what the other party have done (although is not much sometime but it helps the residents). I also don’t a party that force you to open up your house during house visitation even though you are busy. If his party can do this, what do we aspect that he can be taken seriously.
He appears more often in regards to his party and the community he is serving. Seems like u are not even aware and u are passing comments by comparing his party to the incumbent... What a SL
THE WORST THING ABOUT PRISON WAS THE DEMENTORS!!!
Chee Soon Juan is truly Singaporean. What he has said is honest, upright, moral and basically the truth. He threads the middle ground and is reasonable. We should have him in Parliament. The PAP is stale; govern through fear mongering; lacking ideas and using their strength in Parliament to do the party's bidding. This is a great interview.
respect for both Dr Chee and Jade
Chee Soon Juan hope you get voted into parliament this time round soon.
Appreciate Jade Rasif for being well versed for this episode. very insightful!
Jade seems infatuated with Chee, and it brings bias. btw just because someone point finger at PAP govt does not mean that person is telling the facts and truth, hor. Chee nor Jade has done nothing to help the SG poor or disabled.
@@scbchong6964 Nor do your comments justify the actions of the PAP.
Who are you to determine if Jade or Chee has not done anything to help the poor and disabled in Singapore?
Have you:
(1) Made a thorough investigation into their lives? Many people do plenty in their private lives and do not publicise what they do. They are also not accountable to you as they are not in public service.
(2) Compared the salaries of the PAP ministers with those of Jade and Chee?
(3) Why would anyone compare someone who is in the field of public service with citizens whose jobs are not the same and are not paid for it?
btw jade is a damn good panelist - really appreciate that she does her research/knows her shit/has a good head that has thought through the issues. if you guys can convince her to do this more regularly, please do!
jade and john used to have a channel
I remember roughly 10 years back WP mentioned a program very similar to the past 2 year's built back stronger policies and also the WSG schema. What I roughly rmb was WP's white paper suggested a 6 months assurance package to help retrenched workers to have a certain amount of payout + career support. Their suggestion was a suggestion to compliment the upgrading programs which singapore was already running back then.
The payment for such a package is like insurance deduction but from the paychecks directly. So if you work fulltime you're automatically enrolled.
What I think i still rmbed was that the progressive wage schemes back then were not yet in place and the idea of providing safety net for those retrenched was also almost non-existent.
That's all I rmb, saying these in respond to Jade's comment that WP did not suggest for retrenchment packages.
Actually, the stupid Opposition supporters all kpkb about having to pay more out of their own pocket. All they want is free, no consequences welfare.
yup...she screwed up on that! Try harder next time.
they only let him speak now cos he's no longer perceived as a threat
Since PAP and especially LKY and GCT is so afraid of Dr Chee being legitimately in Parliament. I want to vote Dr Chee in. I’m SURE and CONFIDENT that there will be positive changes especially to my children’s generation. 👍🏻
Prison is not a hotel but bare. Minimum, but you are not going to enjoy it. Face it.
Feel like i got hearing Haki. Can forehear what they going to say 1 second before they say
Welcoming Jade, the Class Part W!
We are not afraid to try new things ... more likely we are afraid to fail
Love this podcast, but John Paul looks like just the naughty student in the class every time the Dr looks at him
in my view PAP need to be more transparent as they are among the top 5 govt in the world. More explanation should be done to citizens on how they craft their policies, not just POFMA but their economic right wing policies, amt of reserves and usage of reserves, about why the need to import foreigners endlessly, the need to tax and using CPF to collect back more SGD to the central bank is just to strengthen currency? Opposition parties are formed due to PAP's secrecy. If they could explain then opposition would not have exist easily.
After listening to nearly one hour of the interview, I still don't understand what he is trying to achieve for Singapore? How are we going to get there? And by there, I mean where?
He painted a somewhat vague, contradictory and lofty ideals of a "liberal society" which doesn't quite sit well.
One moment talking about the negative effects of being too materialistic, how life is not about the big bucks, comparing auntie sweeping the floor vs banker sitting at pinnacle of the building.
The next moment talking about his conversation with a billionaire, how Singapore lacks the entrepreneurial climate, how the stifling culture is unable to produce the likes of steve jobs, jk rowling etc.
So how do you reconcile the need to be innovative, break new grounds, advancing and making progress for society without the negative consequences of materialism?
A good storyteller or academic scholar at best, but if he is being thrust into the position of a policy maker, I have my doubts.
The problem is Opposition supporters are educated white-collar middle class yet kpkb and so entitled, greedy and self-important. They forgot that PAP need strong laws because many singaporeans are inconsiderate, quarrelsome, greedy and selfish.
Do yourself a favour by doing some homework and finding out more about what he is doing, what he has done for the past 3 years and what he intends to do, instead of hoping for answers to be fed to u... laziness begets laziness... rofl
@@benjaminyh6252 o wow, so to be considered diligent and not lazy is to follow whatever he does and say blindly? Thank you but no thank you for the tip.
during the intro, the introduction of Daniel and John are swapped
You are talking about a country Leh.. fail again.. Singapore will not rise again, coz the world has changed.. how many entrepreneurs succeed.. there is a lot of lose.
Dr Chee, was short of saying that "things are currently good" 33:27.. then change to fearful of the unknown. .. For people now, I think, people are not voting out of fear, but rather voting the safeguard what they have. If our current govt cannot protect what we have today or move ahead, you will see the current govt being voted out...
yes i agree.. Dr Chee , how do you even compare a company and a country taking risk? No govt is perfect and no govt can make everybody happy...thats a fact. But to the point of taking risk on a group of disunited opposition and having a positive outcome is as good as the odds of winning toto.
It is people like you that give pap the right to bulldozed their way thru all the left pocket to right pocket nonsense.
@@daisylai2991 PAP never steal your money lah. You are educated white-collar middle class yet kpkb and so entitled, greedy and self-important. PAP need strong laws because many singaporeans are inconsiderate, quarrelsome, greedy and selfish. Think about it.
@Nil Nil I hope u are not making an irresponsible comment when u state that the current incumbent is safeguarding something that people have
If u are just contented and satisfied with safeguard, it's pretty obvious u are not progressing and improving... U are regressing indeed and instead
It's likened to u telling me putting your money in a Milo tin or in your savings account is damn safe, when in fact u are losing money to past inflation and recent enhanced inflationary pressures
Quite apparent Temasek has failed to safeguard our investments with their recent failed ventures in Grab, FTX and Zilingo etc... People like u are the ones who cause the nation to regress or come to a standstill
brains and beauty Jade 👍
Prison is not good. You are not going to enjoy life.
34:09 how right CSJ is, Singaporeans keep comparing with the worse, this quote i hear many times ' lucky u not in Philippines, lucky u not in india, lucky u not in malaysia blah blah blah but the reality is these people are coming to replace you and your children's jobs so who are the lucky ones in the end? look around you , based on our poor fertility rate, is there a need for such an enormous amount of BTOs and condos? who is actually buying them? leave it to you to guess lah.
Just wish to point out one point on POFMA from Chee. Please do not blur the line between YOU and fellow Singaporeans. You are a POLITICIAN and no doubt about this, you don't have total freedom in your speech and that ALL the things you say to public must come with truth than alternative facts created or reference from alternative narrow news media or statistics whatsoever. Versus me common citizen where i share my view like this i say Chee a politician is actually indian. Politicians have audiences and people take in your views and mine differently. All in all, broadly speaking in singapore's context, with a super high standard govt, it makes oppposition harder to find fault points in their policies, but mostly just tweaking left and right, to do better here and there. There is literally little chance you can call out a total rogue policy you can totally oppose like in the 50s. If you are a responsible politicians, you don't tear the trust, but build trust. Singapore have too much to lose today to vote on the wrong basis "to send voices in parliament", soon such basis will displace an efficient govt for the wrong reason. That will be so so crazy.
literally came in as fast as i can~
As much as I respect the work Dr Chee has done, it is much easier to criticise the government's policies with vague flagrant remarks rather than offering real solutions
The problem with Opposition supporters is they are educated white-collar middle class yet kpkb and so entitled, greedy and self-important. PAP need strong laws because many singaporeans are inconsiderate, quarrelsome, greedy and selfish. Just because you have Freedom of Speech the lies will stop? And these are working adults, hor.
Imagine you hire a building contractor and they do a shoddy job. You "criticize" their work and the contractor asks you: "Can you do a better job? If not, you should shut up."
Now imagine if you hired the most expensive contractor in the world and they responded thusly to you.
This applies to every job you hire someone to do.
Can you cook as well as the chef you've hired? Can you paint as well as the painter you've commissioned? Can you write as well as the author who wrote a book you've bought?
Using this retort, anyone can claim to be the best in their field with no accountability.
If u want real solution. U goz to vote him in to be in the position to execute reqp solution and policies. Right? Otherwise why are we paying millions for the ministers while expecting oppositions to do the real works.
I wouldn't call having your life crushed at every opportunity for years and still sticking to your convictions 'easier'. Juxtapose that with the minister who said she'd have to reconsider her position if there was to be a 10% pay decrease to their million dollar salary.
Withheld information n resources to u then the person ask u to go do his job. Come on..
Prison is hard.Chee Soon Juan, like my gifted genius son.Jesus loves u.❤U suffered on Earth but God will never ignore you forever and ever. Amen
I tot Jonathan changed his name.
why is she so pro to Chee? so reversing effect .....
Rule number 1 - Do not drop the soap.
If you want to have regulations to control freedom of speech from going out of hand, then what's freedom of speech ? If I am not allowed to say certain things, then there's no freedom of speech. In Singapore, there can never be outright freedom of speech.
I hope the ministry of home affairs will send a spokesperson to respond to this issue so as no one will misunderstand the laws in our country. I trust our government.
I buys Dr. Chee beers any times....
It doesn’t mean dr Chee isn’t a leader
Why nobody hire Chee to manage their family business if he is so good as a "leader"?
If you were never even a NCMP, you don't qualify as even a leader.
Learn from Pakatan Harapan.
If CSJ become MP of Bukit Batok , will he give out free meals at Orange and Peel ? Hear from you Soon!(juan).
While some of his views are valid, most of his stance is just founded on the basis of a need to have options. Granted he might have been wrongly oppressed in the past, one do wonder if he's fighting for the sake of fighting because of that oppression. Some of his views also felt a little outdated with examples quoted from far back. Great to have Jade to balance views - particularly the debates on POFMA.
SG needs more ppl with brains like Dr Chee and Jade.
Seriously?
who is the girl host? she is SO CUTE
I didn't vote for the opposition not because "i'm afraid to try new things". i didn't vote for them cause they were obviously inferior.
We need more leaders like dr Chee to push for change
Hell no.
"Change" for the sake of "Change"? Change does not mean better. Chee never worked for the poor or the underprivileged. Only full of ideology of liberal-rights-democracy from USA CIA propaganda. Nothing about education, better jobs, retraining, defence, preserving and building natural resources.
I don’t want a party that only appear during election and disappear afterward and complain what the other party have done (although is not much sometime but it helps the residents). I also don’t a party that force you to open up your house during house visitation even though you are busy. If his party can do this, what do we aspect that he can be taken seriously.
He appears more often in regards to his party and the community he is serving. Seems like u are not even aware and u are passing comments by comparing his party to the incumbent... What a SL
We are lucky our leader is LKY.
IB spotted
No we are not
An authoritarian leader and his son behaves like him
This ib can shut up everything all porlitics just watch the podcast like ibs keep it to yurself
@@1makeufreak Freedom of speech means others can give an opinion about your opinion, ok? Why so oppressive?
Algoooooo
Those who are actively involved in immoral deeds deserve to be locked up in prison. It seems this trash has not learned his lesson. 🤣🤣
You think you are Anwar?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chia_Thye_Poh
whom Dr Chee mentioned 47:10
Algooooooooo