In the Sixties and Seventies many considered Tom Landry of the Cowboys to be Footballs biggest "Outside The Box" thinker. You could argue that Hank Strams ideas were even more advanced in their concepts than Landry. Nearly every play had a shift of some sort. The defense was even more radical with his "Triple Stack Formation." While Stram was a complete conformist in terms of dress, he was as radical as the decade he coached in. Not only was Lamar Hunt the glue that held the AFL together, he was cutting edge in everything he did. Just as they are now, the Chiefs had awesome talent and great coaching. Race was never an issue, as it was in the Lily White NFL of that period. A great man that took the game to new heights under his guidance.
One of my heroes...The Mentor...Mr. 65TPT...The Innovator...Coach Hank Stram! Met him several times while he was on the road for CBS Radio in Cincinnati. He was every bit as dapper as advertised, and he remembered my name with a smile and handshake each time he came to Riverfront Stadium for Monday Night Football or playoffs. (I was working for ABC-TV in the next booth.)
I was a high school senior when the Chiefs moved to Kansas City. A lot was expected from the team that won the 1962 AFL championship and defeated Denver 59-7 in the opening game of 1963. However, it was downhill the rest of 1963. They finished 5-7-2 and had to win their last three games to achieve that. They were an average team in 1964 and 1965. It was not until 1966 when they became fully accepted by Kansas City fans. In that year they beat Buffalo to win the AFL championship and were the AFL representative in the first Super Bowl against Green Bay.
Being an ex Dallas Texan Football club member 1960-62, it was just devastating to me that the owner Lamar Hunt - a Dallas native - would move this franchise to KC of all places. Dallas had just won the AFL championship, and concluded a great 1963 draft only to see it transfer out. KC was the recipient of a great football franchise that was an established winner. Jack Steadman, the GM, and Hank Stram the HC provided the young talent from the 1962 college ranks: Junius Buchanan, DT, Bobby Lee Bell, LB, Ed Budde, OG, Stone Johnson, RB/WR, Dave Hill, OT, Ed Lothamar, DT, and the excellent punter Jerrel Wilson. As time moved on, now it is evident that this was a very good move for the owner and for the people of KC.
Hello Red River Rover. I can shed some light on the reason behind the move. Though I can't reveal who I am, I can share non-verifiable but certain information as to why the Texans left Dallas after winning the AFL Championship. You'll recall at that time, the Texans and NFL Dallas Cowboys shared the Cotton Bowl. The Texans outdrew the Cowboys for the first two seasons and showcased a much more entertaining brand of football. Football fans in Dallas preferred the AFL Texans style of play by a ratio of better than 3-to-1. Though attendance figures may have been a bit padded by both teams, the Texans were the preferred team to watch. You also know that Lamar Hunt owned the Texans, but the real money behind the team was his father H.L. Hunt. A man named Clint Murchison owned the Dallas Cowboys. H.L. Hunt and Clint Murchison were both big Texas Oil men who regularly did business together. I don't know all of the circumstances or the narrative involved in the discussion, but I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that Murchison persuaded H.L. Hunt that it would be in his best interests to prevail on his son Lamar that the idea of moving the Texans out of Dallas (New Orleans was also mentioned as a possibility as was Memphis) would be a wise move. Since Lamar might have lost his revenue stream (his dad) had he not cooperated, Lamar made the move out of Dallas and publicly stated that it was done so "in the best interests of the American Football League." Please keep in mind that when we're talking about big business and the intertwining of families within the business interests, things can get complicated and fortunes can be lost. I too had always been curious as to why the Texans would simply up-and-leave just after planting the championship flag in their hometown. But I can tell you that as a native Kansas Citian and someone who grew up at Municipal Stadium in Kansas City, the Chiefs are in my heart and soul to stay. Red River Rover, THOSE were MY Chiefs! I loved the AFL and the 1960's Kansas City Chiefs and have defended the AFL and my team too many times to count. I will go to my grave a Kansas City Chief's fan, but before I go I would like to see them win at least one more Super Bowl. And I wish you well, especially since you were a part of the greatest pro football league that ever existed. Long Live the AFL!!!
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt Thank you for your very a informative response. The casual football fan of today certainly needs this kind of academic input. You likely know the then Cowboys owner, Clint Murchison Jr. was eager to provide financial and any other assistance necessary for Lamar Hunt and his Texans to relocate out of Dallas. The Merchison's were forced to initiate the move with Lamar and his Texans due to the growing popularity of the Dallas Texans. Unfortunately, many simply cannot appreciate the real history and legacy behind the shaping of today's modern NFL. The profound impact of Lamar Hunt, Jack Steadman, Hank Stram and others only silently resonates throughout the NFL and with football enthusiasts. How ironic that these icons pioneered the AFL and were the first AFL Champions. They participated in the first NFL-AFL Championship game against the Great Green Bay Packers, won the most AFL Titles, represented the newly formed AFC in the first Super Bowl following the merger; and easily won against the heavily favored Minnesota Vikings. All of this and much more involving Lamar Hunt's incursion into professional sports is American Football "documentary gold" still waiting to be told. For Hank Stram to be as "flamboyant" a genius as he was; and allowing himself to be the first NFL coach mic'ed-up, "for our listening pleasure of course" is absolutely priceless. Having very nearly returned to the Super Bowl the following year after defeating the Vikings; and having also pushed the outer limits of gridiron endurance in the longest NFL game ever recorded places a somewhat bitter conclusion to an unheralded Chiefs football Dynasty. That many have not even considered Lamar Hunt's Texans and Chiefs a true football dynasty is an historic injustice! A return to glory with another Super Bowl appearance will go a long way toward shining a much deserved spotlight on the real historical record regarding our beloved Chiefs; and it's long overdue!
@@hughcapetien Thank you Rover. And if you indeed did play for the Texans, I hope your days are healthy and happy ones. You guys didn't make much $$ and more than any athletes of any era, you played for the love of the game. As a fan, the AFL provided me with too many memories to count. The league was fun to watch and though not respected by the other league, the AFL guys were just as passionate about the game and put up with many of the same conditions and circumstances as the older league. I was too young at the time to know about the politics and the BS going on behind the scenes, but I know that without a man of great vision and high personal character like Mr Lamar Hunt, the pro football world as we know it might still be in the age of 3-yards and a cloud of dust. And one more thing: my first hero in my life was my dad, a WW-2 veteran who courageously served in the US Navy. My 2nd hero was an African-American man named Otis Taylor, who disgracefully has NOT been selected for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We grew up in the 1960's and saw examples of racism that truly bothered us as a white kids growing up in the KC suburbs. But at our grade school, seemingly all of us loved the Chiefs, regardless of color and it seems like we all had different heroes from that great team. As we got older, we gained more of an understanding about life and what was important. Though the decades may have passed, every time the Kansas City Chiefs win a football game, I think back to those glorious sunny fall and winter days at Municipal Stadium and the games that were played there, the excitement, the crown noise, the smells, the passionate Chiefs fan base and the way the players carried themselves with such class and dignity. I could write a book about the Chiefs of the 1960's and one day, maybe I will. And it all began in Dallas with the Texans, who, as you know, routinely outdrew the Cowboys in the same city, same STADIUM! Long Live the AFL!
@@wrenclegg553 Actually, the Houston Oilers (now Tennessee Titans) were the first AFL champions (in 1960 and 1961), though the Chiefs were the first to play in the Super Bowl.
Abner helped lead the protest of the 64/65 AFL All-Star game in New Orleans that was moved to Houston. GM Jack Steadman traded him to Denver for a punter. I believe Stram felt that Hill could replace him but once again tragedy struck the franchise ...
@@brianwolf6166 on interneview Haynes sounding like Steadman trading him for the All star game walkout to me I belive Hunt pushed Steadman to make the trade to get the "heat off" the league
Wow! Play no.1 of the film was the exact same play the Chiefs scored the game winning touchdown on in Super Bowl IV! Otis Taylor too that quick hitch, broke a tackle and went down that exact sideline to score. How ironic!
This was a watershed year in AFL history. The Texans became the Chiefs, the Titans became the Jets, and Al Davis took over the Raiders and turned them around and saved the franchise. The league began to stabilize.
elwin38 that's right, 1960. the afl started "raiding" the nfl and universities from the very beginning, the billy cannon signing ended up in court and the judge sided with the oilers and bud adams. interestingly what brought the owners of both leagues together was their unified greed, players were getting much better salaries with the leagues competing with each other, they realized they needed to merge in order to preserve the monopoly.
I agree. The Mara family should not have signed Pete Gogolak. Then Al Davis(who was the "new" AFL commissioner) wouldnt have went after the NFL's established stars. That helped accelerate the merger too. The NFL didnt want to pay high salaries but didnt want to lose their players to the AFL.
elwin38 okay, i wasn't aware of gogolak and the giants. i thought the "bidding wars" were enough and didn't know they had a "non-poaching" agreement, looks like that opened the flood gates, and of course al davis, dude marched to his own drummer. funny how the first soccer kicker accelerated the merger, and bob timberlake, lol, was 0-14 kicking field goals for the giants. in fairness to timberlake, the "winter winds" at yankee stadium were apparently brutal.
You know, given coach Stram's complex, shifting offense and defense, it was good for KC that they had so many players with five + years with the club. Take the offense...Budde, Hill, Tyrer, Arbanas, McClinton, Dawson, Taylor and Holub (with his first 7 years at MLB for KC) all had at least five seasons on the Chiefs prior to Super Bowl IV.
I didn't hear him mentioned either, but beginning at 1:13 they freeze on #33 - that's Johnson - to end the opening sequence. I think that's the tribute.
@@44032 it certainly is. I am very wrong. My apologies. I'll leave this up long enough for you or anybody else to see, then probably take the thing down. To your point, I noticed how impressed the announcer was with Haynes "averaging nearly 4 yards a carry." Very rosy.
It's weird to see Jerrel Wilson doing something other than punt. Before about 1965, kicking and punting were supposed to be second jobs for some players. Even someone like Jerry Kramer was a kicker. He was the guard for the Packers and was their kicker for 1962.
amazing to see how much the size of the players and the overall speed has changed when compared to todays game. These men were huge for the time but there are H.S. teams bigger now. I'm not sure that's a good thing. I still think that if the Chiefs had won the game against the dolphins in the '71 playoff and then gone onto the SB and beat Dallas they would have been considered an all time great club having been to 3 of the first 6 SB's with 2 wins. They certainly had the talent.
Brad Herzog No offence Mr. Herzog, but I disagree with your assertion that today's NFL players are "so much bigger" than NFL players of the 60s & 70s. The average height from the 50s till today is about the same, with the average weights more in today's players. But what I see in today's NFL is, and not EVERY player obviously, guys way out of shape, and some that are down-right obese. This of course, is just personal opinion that I'm going to guess 50% of today's NFL players could not have made Lombardi's, Landry's, Stram's, or Grant's teams.
lamar hunt originally wanted to call them the kansas city texans... i'm guessing that would have bombed big time. i didn't live there when the chiefs/texans were afl but i remember in the 1970's you couldn't talk kansas city without mentioning barbeque, i seems to me buck buchanan had a barbeque place, gates and sons was my favorite, best barbeque town in america. part of the kansas city mayors promise to lamar hunt if he moved the team was a guaranteed 35,000 attendance, hunt admitted he would have moved for 20,000. they started out good then dropped off around 15,000 for most of their first three years. after their appearance in super bowl I in 1966, they were selling out every game around 45,000.
The other finalists for the teams new name was the Mules that would have never worked and the Royals who was later used for the expansion American League team in KC.
Why could Lamar Hunt not meet the Necessary Attendance in Dallas? That's because the Cowboys ruled Dallas, even back in 1963. That's why Lamar Hunt moved the "Texans" to Kansas City. The Scoreboard in the Chiefs' first playing venue resembles the old style Play Fair Scoreboards I remembered back in High School.
Jiltedin2007 True. The NFL also made it clear it would pour in as many resources as possible to keep the Cowboys in Dallas. The Texans were the better team(the Cowboys sucked at that time), but the Cowboys were there to stay. The AFL was still too new and the Dallas market was too small to try to maintain 2 teams. Lamar Hunt made the move to KC to benefit the entire league. 1963 was a watershed year for the AFL.
The move from Dallas to KC wasn't really "necessary". Clint Murchison Jr., owner of the Dallas Cowboys actually made a persuasive deal with Lamar Hunt; and he assisted Hunt financially with the Texans move to Kansas City. The Texans were gaining popularity, in Dallas and around the country. Also, the Dallas Texans owner Lamar Hunt first interviewed Tom Landry for the Texans HC position, but he eventually decided on Hank Stram.
COMPLETING 54% OF YOUR PASSES IS REMARKABLE? TOM BRADY IN 2016 COMPLETED 67% IF 54% WAS REMARKABLE FOR DAWSON IN 1963, WHAT WORD WOULD YOU USE TO DESCRIBE BRADY'S 67%?
Look at those helmets they never changed. That arrowhead. Lives forever😆🏈👍😁😆🏹
I will always remember those guys. 😆🤣🏈👍😁
Hank Stram was such a one of a kind guy.
In the Sixties and Seventies many considered Tom Landry of the Cowboys to be Footballs biggest "Outside The Box" thinker. You could argue that Hank Strams ideas were even more advanced in their concepts than Landry. Nearly every play had a shift of some sort. The defense was even more radical with his "Triple Stack Formation." While Stram was a complete conformist in terms of dress, he was as radical as the decade he coached in. Not only was Lamar Hunt the glue that held the AFL together, he was cutting edge in everything he did. Just as they are now, the Chiefs had awesome talent and great coaching. Race was never an issue, as it was in the Lily White NFL of that period. A great man that took the game to new heights under his guidance.
When people ask me how long I've been a Chiefs' fan - I will show them this. I was in 4th grade.
Love those Jet Logo Helmets ... the only year they used them ...
Sorry, Jets Logo Helmets, the first year Weeb Ewbank coached the team. He beat Hank Stram and the Chiefs 17-0 in their first coaching matchup ...
@@brianwolf6166 Change was made with the move into Shea from the Polo Grounds
One of my heroes...The Mentor...Mr. 65TPT...The Innovator...Coach Hank Stram! Met him several times while he was on the road for CBS Radio in Cincinnati. He was every bit as dapper as advertised, and he remembered my name with a smile and handshake each time he came to Riverfront Stadium for Monday Night Football or playoffs. (I was working for ABC-TV in the next booth.)
Some of these Chiefs on this 1963 team would still play for them in the 1970’s.
One of my favorite Texans/Chiefs ... Chris Burford
I'm liking this baby;AFL for life,peace!!!!!!!!!: )
Love the shot of Warpaint galloping through the snow.
I was a high school senior when the Chiefs moved to Kansas City. A lot was expected from the team that won the 1962 AFL championship and defeated Denver 59-7 in the opening game of 1963. However, it was downhill the rest of 1963. They finished 5-7-2 and had to win their last three games to achieve that. They were an average team in 1964 and 1965. It was not until 1966 when they became fully accepted by Kansas City
fans. In that year they beat Buffalo to win the AFL championship and were the AFL representative in the first Super Bowl against Green Bay.
They drafted place kicker Jan Stenerud in 1966 that gave them an additional weapon on offense.
Some of these '63 Chiefs should be in the HOF..Ed Budde, Johnny Robinson, Jerrel Wilson and Dave Grayson.
Dave Grayson was a great Raider also
Well, at least Johnny Robinson is in the Hall of Fame.
Tyrer as well ...
Hank Stram one of my all-time favorite coaches.
Buck Buchanan & Bobby Bell's rookie season.
Merle Harmon is the narrator. Later Jets radio announcer during 68 Super Bowl season.
Being an ex Dallas Texan Football club member 1960-62, it was just devastating to me that the owner Lamar Hunt - a Dallas native - would move this franchise to KC of all places. Dallas had just won the AFL championship, and concluded a great 1963 draft only to see it transfer out. KC was the recipient of a great football franchise that was an established winner. Jack Steadman, the GM, and Hank Stram the HC provided the young talent from the 1962 college ranks: Junius Buchanan, DT, Bobby Lee Bell, LB, Ed Budde, OG, Stone Johnson, RB/WR, Dave Hill, OT, Ed Lothamar, DT, and the excellent punter Jerrel Wilson. As time
moved on, now it is evident that this was a very good move for the owner and for the people of KC.
Hello Red River Rover. I can shed some light on the reason behind the move. Though I can't reveal who I am, I can share non-verifiable but certain information as to why the Texans left Dallas after winning the AFL Championship. You'll recall at that time, the Texans and NFL Dallas Cowboys shared the Cotton Bowl. The Texans outdrew the Cowboys for the first two seasons and showcased a much more entertaining brand of football. Football fans in Dallas preferred the AFL Texans style of play by a ratio of better than 3-to-1. Though attendance figures may have been a bit padded by both teams, the Texans were the preferred team to watch. You also know that Lamar Hunt owned the Texans, but the real money behind the team was his father H.L. Hunt. A man named Clint Murchison owned the Dallas Cowboys. H.L. Hunt and Clint Murchison were both big Texas Oil men who regularly did business together. I don't know all of the circumstances or the narrative involved in the discussion, but I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that Murchison persuaded H.L. Hunt that it would be in his best interests to prevail on his son Lamar that the idea of moving the Texans out of Dallas (New Orleans was also mentioned as a possibility as was Memphis) would be a wise move. Since Lamar might have lost his revenue stream (his dad) had he not cooperated, Lamar made the move out of Dallas and publicly stated that it was done so "in the best interests of the American Football League." Please keep in mind that when we're talking about big business and the intertwining of families within the business interests, things can get complicated and fortunes can be lost. I too had always been curious as to why the Texans would simply up-and-leave just after planting the championship flag in their hometown. But I can tell you that as a native Kansas Citian and someone who grew up at Municipal Stadium in Kansas City, the Chiefs are in my heart and soul to stay. Red River Rover, THOSE were MY Chiefs! I loved the AFL and the 1960's Kansas City Chiefs and have defended the AFL and my team too many times to count. I will go to my grave a Kansas City Chief's fan, but before I go I would like to see them win at least one more Super Bowl. And I wish you well, especially since you were a part of the greatest pro football league that ever existed. Long Live the AFL!!!
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt Thank you for your very a informative response. The casual football fan of today certainly needs this kind of academic input. You likely know the then Cowboys owner, Clint Murchison Jr. was eager to provide financial and any other assistance necessary for Lamar Hunt and his Texans to relocate out of Dallas. The Merchison's were forced to initiate the move with Lamar and his Texans due to the growing popularity of the Dallas Texans. Unfortunately, many simply cannot appreciate the real history and legacy behind the shaping of today's modern NFL. The profound impact of Lamar Hunt, Jack Steadman, Hank Stram and others only silently resonates throughout the NFL and with football enthusiasts. How ironic that these icons pioneered the AFL and were the first AFL Champions. They participated in the first NFL-AFL Championship game against the Great Green Bay Packers, won the most AFL Titles, represented the newly formed AFC in the first Super Bowl following the merger; and easily won against the heavily favored Minnesota Vikings. All of this and much more involving Lamar Hunt's incursion into professional sports is American Football "documentary gold" still waiting to be told. For Hank Stram to be as "flamboyant" a genius as he was; and allowing himself to be the first NFL coach mic'ed-up, "for our listening pleasure of course" is absolutely priceless. Having very nearly returned to the Super Bowl the following year after defeating the Vikings; and having also pushed the outer limits of gridiron endurance in the longest NFL game ever recorded places a somewhat bitter conclusion to an unheralded Chiefs football Dynasty. That many have not even considered Lamar Hunt's Texans and Chiefs a true football dynasty is an historic injustice! A return to glory with another Super Bowl appearance will go a long way toward shining a much deserved spotlight on the real historical record regarding our beloved Chiefs; and it's long overdue!
@@Chiefsfansince-qb1kt Dear Chiefsfansince 1964, your dream has come true - the Chiefs won the 2020 Super Bowl! Long live the AFL!
@@hughcapetien Thank you Rover. And if you indeed did play for the Texans, I hope your days are healthy and happy ones. You guys didn't make much $$ and more than any athletes of any era, you played for the love of the game. As a fan, the AFL provided me with too many memories to count. The league was fun to watch and though not respected by the other league, the AFL guys were just as passionate about the game and put up with many of the same conditions and circumstances as the older league. I was too young at the time to know about the politics and the BS going on behind the scenes, but I know that without a man of great vision and high personal character like Mr Lamar Hunt, the pro football world as we know it might still be in the age of 3-yards and a cloud of dust. And one more thing: my first hero in my life was my dad, a WW-2 veteran who courageously served in the US Navy. My 2nd hero was an African-American man named Otis Taylor, who disgracefully has NOT been selected for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We grew up in the 1960's and saw examples of racism that truly bothered us as a white kids growing up in the KC suburbs. But at our grade school, seemingly all of us loved the Chiefs, regardless of color and it seems like we all had different heroes from that great team. As we got older, we gained more of an understanding about life and what was important. Though the decades may have passed, every time the Kansas City Chiefs win a football game, I think back to those glorious sunny fall and winter days at Municipal Stadium and the games that were played there, the excitement, the crown noise, the smells, the passionate Chiefs fan base and the way the players carried themselves with such class and dignity. I could write a book about the Chiefs of the 1960's and one day, maybe I will. And it all began in Dallas with the Texans, who, as you know, routinely outdrew the Cowboys in the same city, same STADIUM! Long Live the AFL!
@@wrenclegg553 Actually, the Houston Oilers (now Tennessee Titans) were the first AFL champions (in 1960 and 1961), though the Chiefs were the first to play in the Super Bowl.
The move to KC broke Abner Haynes' heart. Lamar Hunt promised so much to get him signed like building a dynasty in Dallas.
True. Abner was never the same after that and he was later traded to Denver.
Stone Johnson's death in the '63 preseason also had a serious effect on Abner.
Abner is a lifelong Dallas resident.
Abner helped lead the protest of the 64/65 AFL All-Star game in New Orleans that was moved to Houston.
GM Jack Steadman traded him to Denver for a punter. I believe Stram felt that Hill could replace him but once again tragedy struck the franchise ...
@@brianwolf6166 on interneview Haynes sounding like Steadman trading him for the All star game walkout to me I belive Hunt pushed Steadman to make the trade to get the "heat off" the league
Wow! Play no.1 of the film was the exact same play the Chiefs scored the game winning touchdown on in Super Bowl IV! Otis Taylor too that quick hitch, broke a tackle and went down that exact sideline to score. How ironic!
This was a watershed year in AFL history. The Texans became the Chiefs, the Titans became the Jets, and Al Davis took over the Raiders and turned them around and saved the franchise. The league began to stabilize.
+elwin38 wikipedia says the afl got 75% of the nfl's draft picks that year, including heisman trophy winner billy cannon from lsu.
***** In 1960, Billy Cannon was drafted by the Houston Oilers. But in '63, yeah they did get most of the NFL's top picks.
elwin38 that's right, 1960. the afl started "raiding" the nfl and universities from the very beginning, the billy cannon signing ended up in court and the judge sided with the oilers and bud adams. interestingly what brought the owners of both leagues together was their unified greed, players were getting much better salaries with the leagues competing with each other, they realized they needed to merge in order to preserve the monopoly.
I agree. The Mara family should not have signed Pete Gogolak. Then Al Davis(who was the "new" AFL commissioner) wouldnt have went after the NFL's established stars. That helped accelerate the merger too. The NFL didnt want to pay high salaries but didnt want to lose their players to the AFL.
elwin38 okay, i wasn't aware of gogolak and the giants. i thought the "bidding wars" were enough and didn't know they had a "non-poaching" agreement, looks like that opened the flood gates, and of course al davis, dude marched to his own drummer. funny how the first soccer kicker accelerated the merger, and bob timberlake, lol, was 0-14 kicking field goals for the giants. in fairness to timberlake, the "winter winds" at yankee stadium were apparently brutal.
I miss the days when football was played in baseball stadiums converted for Football. Only Oakland for now is used for both baseball and football.
You know, given coach Stram's complex, shifting offense and defense, it was good for KC that they had so many players with five + years with the club. Take the offense...Budde, Hill, Tyrer, Arbanas, McClinton, Dawson, Taylor and Holub (with his first 7 years at MLB for KC) all had at least five seasons on the Chiefs prior to Super Bowl IV.
No mention of Stone Johnson but also no mention that they ever lost a game. It's a promotional film, so everything is positive.
I didn't hear him mentioned either, but beginning at 1:13 they freeze on #33 - that's Johnson - to end the opening sequence. I think that's the tribute.
@@jackallen6562 That's #32 Curtis McClinton.
@@44032 it certainly is. I am very wrong. My apologies.
I'll leave this up long enough for you or anybody else to see, then probably take the thing down.
To your point, I noticed how impressed the announcer was with Haynes "averaging nearly 4 yards a carry." Very rosy.
It's weird to see Jerrel Wilson doing something other than punt. Before about 1965, kicking and punting were supposed to be second jobs for some players. Even someone like Jerry Kramer was a kicker. He was the guard for the Packers and was their kicker for 1962.
Lou Groza of the Cleveland Browns was a great offensive lineman before he was a kicker
amazing to see how much the size of the players and the overall speed has changed when compared to todays game. These men were huge for the time but there are H.S. teams bigger now. I'm not sure that's a good thing. I still think that if the Chiefs had won the game against the dolphins in the '71 playoff and then gone onto the SB and beat Dallas they would have been considered an all time great club having been to 3 of the first 6 SB's with 2 wins. They certainly had the talent.
Brad Herzog
No offence Mr. Herzog, but I disagree with your assertion that today's NFL players are "so much bigger" than NFL players of the 60s & 70s. The average height from the 50s till today is about the same, with the average weights more in today's players. But what I see in today's NFL is, and not EVERY player obviously, guys way out of shape, and some that are down-right obese. This of course, is just personal opinion that I'm going to guess 50% of today's NFL players could not have made Lombardi's, Landry's, Stram's, or Grant's teams.
From Dallas to Baltimore to Kansas City. 3:53
Frank Jackson was from where 7:14
Stone Johnson Grambling
He died tragically the following year.
Actually he passed away during that 1963 preseason. May he rest in peace.
lamar hunt originally wanted to call them the kansas city texans... i'm guessing that would have bombed big time. i didn't live there when the chiefs/texans were afl but i remember in the 1970's you couldn't talk kansas city without mentioning barbeque, i seems to me buck buchanan had a barbeque place, gates and sons was my favorite, best barbeque town in america.
part of the kansas city mayors promise to lamar hunt if he moved the team was a guaranteed 35,000 attendance, hunt admitted he would have moved for 20,000. they started out good then dropped off around 15,000 for most of their first three years. after their appearance in super bowl I in 1966, they were selling out every game around 45,000.
+tomitstube The Chiefs were, supposedly, named in honor of H. Roe Bartel, mayor of Kansas City. His nickname was "The Chief"!
Dan Nerling yeah, i think you're right, a token gift to the mayor for working with hunt.
The other finalists for the teams new name was the Mules that would have never worked and the Royals who was later used for the expansion American League team in KC.
Curtis McClinton left handed.. 10:31
Why could Lamar Hunt not meet the Necessary Attendance in Dallas? That's because the Cowboys ruled Dallas, even back in 1963. That's why Lamar Hunt moved the "Texans" to Kansas City. The Scoreboard in the Chiefs' first playing venue resembles the old style Play Fair Scoreboards I remembered back in High School.
Jiltedin2007 True. The NFL also made it clear it would pour in as many resources as possible to keep the Cowboys in Dallas. The Texans were the better team(the Cowboys sucked at that time), but the Cowboys were there to stay. The AFL was still too new and the Dallas market was too small to try to maintain 2 teams. Lamar Hunt made the move to KC to benefit the entire league. 1963 was a watershed year for the AFL.
+elwin38 what happing to the dallas texans
Joseph Bevacqua??? I was explaining why the Dallas Texans moved to Kansas City and became the Chiefs.
elwin38 the chefs first season in kc was shock by the dead of what rookie
+Joseph Bevacqua KR Stone Johnson.
That really does look like a high school stadium. Compare it to the monstrosities today.
Bobby and Buck
Who can tell me about MAXWELL JOE BRUNER....QB................I want to know more. He is a great man.
There goes warpaint. 🤣🏈👍😁
Move to KC was necessary as Cowboys became the choice as Dallas pro football team.
The move from Dallas to KC wasn't really "necessary". Clint Murchison Jr., owner of the Dallas Cowboys actually made a persuasive deal with Lamar Hunt; and he assisted Hunt financially with the Texans move to Kansas City. The Texans were gaining popularity, in Dallas and around the country. Also, the Dallas Texans owner Lamar Hunt first interviewed Tom Landry for the Texans HC position, but he eventually decided on Hank Stram.
@Wren Clegg The Cowboys weren't really that great when the Chiefs left the first winning season wasn't until 1966(10-3-1)
Dave Grayson
COMPLETING 54% OF YOUR PASSES IS REMARKABLE? TOM BRADY IN 2016 COMPLETED 67% IF 54% WAS REMARKABLE FOR DAWSON IN 1963, WHAT WORD WOULD YOU USE TO DESCRIBE BRADY'S 67%?
FRED ROGERS it was harder pass back then
@@georgemcfly3482 Yup, in the 60's it wasn't "touch" football for the QB's or the receivers like it is now. Ever hear of Fred "The Hammer" Williamson?
Abner Haynes
His best years were when he was playing for the Dallas Texans.
Should be in the HOF ... one of the most exciting players of the 60s
Stop saying Mid-America!!!!
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brad, Dallas would of kicked kc's ass in supe 6.
Not a chance!
1971 was the Cowboys year nobody was beating them that season
Abner Haynes