What the carp "anglers" slagging off Dick Walker fail to understand is that at the time of this capture, carp were regarded as all but impossible to catch. You couldn't go into a tackle shop and buy a "carp rod" and all the other gear that now enables any dummy to cast out three lines and go to bed until a carp hooks itself. Walker and his friends had to invent carp fishing, the techniques and the equipment used to do it. Nobody slagging him off will ever contribute more, or achieve more. (And he wasn't a "pro-angler" sponsored to fish. He was a professional engineer who fished as a hobby!)
Well said. Many of the lager swilling, Instagram bragging carp anglers that shout their way around so many (formerly quiet) lakes, have no idea about Walker, 'BB', Ingham and friends, that did so much to promote the development of carp fishing in the 1950s and 60s.
@@portcullis5622 I very much doubt the ones I’ve had the misfortune to bump into could identify any aquatic weeds but they sure know a good old bag of prime Essex Skunk Weed when they see it😂😂
@@teddydavid1026 There were several derogatory comments a couple of years ago. Several wild allegations about Dick Walker cheating (catching stocked, hand-fed fish) and exaggerating the weights of his biggest fish. The comments appear to have been deleted now.
@teddydavid1026 You should read a couple of books. It's very illuminating. "No need to lie" is a book by Richard Walker about his fishing experiences in & around Redmire pool.
It's interesting that RW talks about Chris Yates' record fish from Redmire not being accepted as the new British carp record. Evidently, at the time this interview was recorded the current record committee had refused to ratify the fish because they insisted that they actually had to view it. In essence, this would have meant Yates would have had to kill the fish, something he refused to do, even though he knew it would prevent him from taking the record. Fortunately, saner heads prevailed and a new, more conservation-minded committee was set up which subsequently accepted Yates' fish from photographs and eye witness reports. I am sure RW was delighted!
I remember the events well, and Dick's annoyance that Chris's fish wasn't recognized. He said it was presented with enough evidence to send someone to prison, and that ought to be enough for claiming a record fish. I ought to know about this - Dick was my father. Simon Walker
@alanrtment porter I was just trying to help, as I see that mistake so often. I admit that I had been having an argument with 'day jee' about the nonsense that he was spouting about Richard Walker's record carp (much of it has now been deleted for some reason). You are correct about "would've" being an accepted abbreviation for "would have", but that does not alter the fact that "would of" is always wrong.
@@simonwalker4116 Simon did your father ever talk about the bigger fish in the lake ? the chess pieces that Yates/others talked about allways thought the picture of the king was impressive if real
With all respect for RW, Chris was the record-man. Don't understand why he took Clarissa away from Redmire. And another thing. From the very first moment I saw this photo of RW with Clarissa I've never believed she was 44 lbs.
@day jee Just his opinion. Most of our earlier conversations seem to have disappeared. Maybe deleted by yourself due to embarrassment? Possibly taken down by UA-cam due to the abusive comments, or maybe on the grounds of defamation of Richard Walker's character by yourself? Whatever the reason, just to let you know that I have not deleted anything and I stand by my earlier posts.
@@fabapapa9926 Photographs can be very deceptive. As the previous record was 31 and a quarter pounds, Richard Walker's fish beat it easily. If he wanted to exaggerate the weight of his fish, he would only have had to claim it weighed 32 pounds to beat the record. He had no incentive at all to add on an extra 12 pounds to say it was 44 lbs, unless it actually was. If he wanted to cheat, he would not have kept it and phoned London Zoo. As he said in the interview, it was accurately weighed by the zoo. It probably lost weight overnight while in the sack, so it was probably several ounces heavier when caught.
It does not look 44 and its not the only common he took out of there ,there's a film on UA-cam about keven maddocks fishery withy pool and how walker put a common in there that he said he got from redmire
Some of the people commenting on here, appear to confirm my definition of "modern carp fishing": "A field sport, involving several baited hooks and lines, with a creature with a brain the size of a walnut at one end, and (eventually) a carp at the other"!
@@jamiebruce4924Rivers; where the carp have no names! I can imagine that river carping is wonderful, if your rivers hold enough carp to make it worthwhile.
Wonderful, evocative stuff from the days before carp fishing became big business and lost its soul. It seems as though there are more carp anglers than carp these days, and most of them appear to want to take all the mystery out of it by naming all of the fish, and telling the world about it. I know that it is only a consequence of living in a crowded country where carp fishing is fashionable, but when I go fishing, I don't want to know that, for example, "Hermione the mirror has been out three times this month, and has lost nine ounces this year, so she is now only a scraper twenty". Where will it all end; barcodes on every fish telling the angler its name, how many times it has been caught and its favourite bait?
Totally understand what you mean Portcullis but there is still some good quiet fishing to be had out there and fish with no name, it is getting harder to find so when you do, keep it to yourself ;)
It is true that there are still some beautiful waters out there that offer quiet fishing if you search ('Where The Carp Have No Names', to quote the title of an article in 'Waterlog' magazine!). I fish a beautiful club water; two mature pools set in woodlands, with sensible stocking levels, a complicated system for day permits and a night fishing ban. Although it can be a hassle to get permits and to pack up at dusk, at least it keeps the morons away so the banks are unspoiled, and the waters don't get overfished. The fish aren't huge (another plus factor that deters the idiots), but a couple of weeks ago, I caught my biggest ever carp there, a mirror of 26.5 pounds, close in, on a simple rig, on a cube of red 'fermented curd' (produced in a certain county in the English Midlands)! Not a huge fish by national standards, but it is probably one of the biggest fish in the lake. The nice thing was that I had never seen the fish before, and I don't know its name, or how often it comes out for a look around the woods! Talking of the moronic element, I am not sure that I can completely agree with the definition of 'Modern Carp Angling' that I read in the latest Oxford English Dictionary. "A field sport, involving the use of several baited lines, with a creature at one end with a brain the size of a walnut, and (eventually) at the other end, a carp". A bit harsh perhaps!
Angling,for my money is like music...better in the 60s! The soul has gone out of it.Carp hard to catch? Not on the day ticket dug and stocked holes in the ground I fish...They throw themselves at you!....in return for buckets of groundbait. Oh for the days of wild clean water and natural fish stocks.Split cane rods, Mitchel reels ,jumpers for goal posts.... Marvelous....and I,m not joking
I think the reason Chris Yates's claim was refused, he had no way of keeping the carp until a BFCC official could get to him to verify the claim so he released it. I suppose you could ask why he did not have a carp sack handy like Richard Walker had.
I remember the event well, it was widely reported at the time. A pity that the fish didn't do well at the zoo. It lost a lot of weight and never looked well whenever I saw her.
If Richards carp was 44lb, Chris's one had to weight 60. Even Richard said at the time that he was amazed at the weight, and had they included the potato sack, he also mentions that in several of his books.
It was either that or they would have killed it , why do you think theres loads of stuffed fish in glass cabinets ? Its what they did to big fish back in the day .
@@Kolenkachel21 Different times. I think you misunderstand. At the time, the general public, and most anglers, did not believe that carp grew so large in Britain.
@@Moggy471 Maybe Moggy, we'll never know how carp fishing would have gone without this capture, there were certainly fish growing elsewhere and they would have eventually been caught..
alan roberts time's and attitudes have thankfully change. Back in the day a dead fish was the only to claim a record. Then you probably know that. Can you imagine the outcry now. some things change for the better
Yea I always thought it was very sad that fish went into the zoo and mybe a little cruel too and I can't think of any good reason for it, great carpy history but far from perfect..different times now but not by any means better in every way..!!
@@joannejackson2536 The 1950s were a completely different time. Most attitudes in fishing have changed for the worst, but returning fish is one thing that has changed for the better. Having said that, it has to be that way as there are now nearly as many carp anglers as there are carp! The original point of fishing was hunting for the pot. It is worth remembering that when we have to defend modern angling to non-anglers. While many non-anglers like to hear that we don't kill the fish, many of them have a real problem with us enjoying catching and returning fish to be caught repeatedly.
No way that fish was 44lb ! walker made a lot of money as the record holder he was a liar and a cheat and robbed his mates and other anglers who did catch record carp over for the next 28 years! Right from the start us anglers being exploited by the rich
Brilliant, the old days and masters ,how sad they and people like him are no longer .
Thank you for this archive.
The Best does not matter how many times you listened to this it's exciting as the first time thank you for the upload
What the carp "anglers" slagging off Dick Walker fail to understand is that at the time of this capture, carp were regarded as all but impossible to catch. You couldn't go into a tackle shop and buy a "carp rod" and all the other gear that now enables any dummy to cast out three lines and go to bed until a carp hooks itself. Walker and his friends had to invent carp fishing, the techniques and the equipment used to do it. Nobody slagging him off will ever contribute more, or achieve more. (And he wasn't a "pro-angler" sponsored to fish. He was a professional engineer who fished as a hobby!)
Well said. Many of the lager swilling, Instagram bragging carp anglers that shout their way around so many (formerly quiet) lakes, have no idea about Walker, 'BB', Ingham and friends, that did so much to promote the development of carp fishing in the 1950s and 60s.
@@portcullis5622 you forgot to mention 'weed smoking' 'radio playing' 'fire lighting' louts👍👍
@@orias5198Which weed do they smoke? Dried Potomogeton, hornwort or milfoil?
@@portcullis5622 I very much doubt the ones I’ve had the misfortune to bump into could identify any aquatic weeds but they sure know a good old bag of prime Essex Skunk Weed when they see it😂😂
@@teddydavid1026 There were several derogatory comments a couple of years ago. Several wild allegations about Dick Walker cheating (catching stocked, hand-fed fish) and exaggerating the weights of his biggest fish. The comments appear to have been deleted now.
No need to lie was my favourite book growing up . Great book good illustrations fantastic memories 👏
@teddydavid1026 You should read a couple of books. It's very illuminating. "No need to lie" is a book by Richard Walker about his fishing experiences in & around Redmire pool.
It's interesting that RW talks about Chris Yates' record fish from Redmire not being accepted as the new British carp record. Evidently, at the time this interview was recorded the current record committee had refused to ratify the fish because they insisted that they actually had to view it. In essence, this would have meant Yates would have had to kill the fish, something he refused to do, even though he knew it would prevent him from taking the record. Fortunately, saner heads prevailed and a new, more conservation-minded committee was set up which subsequently accepted Yates' fish from photographs and eye witness reports. I am sure RW was delighted!
I remember the events well, and Dick's annoyance that Chris's fish wasn't recognized. He said it was presented with enough evidence to send someone to prison, and that ought to be enough for claiming a record fish. I ought to know about this - Dick was my father.
Simon Walker
@day jee Could have, not "of".
@alanrtment porter I was just trying to help, as I see that mistake so often. I admit that I had been having an argument with 'day jee' about the nonsense that he was spouting about Richard Walker's record carp (much of it has now been deleted for some reason). You are correct about "would've" being an accepted abbreviation for "would have", but that does not alter the fact that "would of" is always wrong.
@@simonwalker4116 Simon did your father ever talk about the bigger fish in the lake ? the chess pieces that Yates/others talked about allways thought the picture of the king was impressive if real
Brilliant.. such history!
With all respect for RW, Chris was the record-man. Don't understand why he took Clarissa away from Redmire. And another thing. From the very first moment I saw this photo of RW with Clarissa I've never believed she was 44 lbs.
@day jee Just his opinion. Most of our earlier conversations seem to have disappeared. Maybe deleted by yourself due to embarrassment? Possibly taken down by UA-cam due to the abusive comments, or maybe on the grounds of defamation of Richard Walker's character by yourself? Whatever the reason, just to let you know that I have not deleted anything and I stand by my earlier posts.
I just read an article about RW and saw the picture of Clarissa. My thoughts - 44lbs? Never!
@@fabapapa9926 Photographs can be very deceptive. As the previous record was 31 and a quarter pounds, Richard Walker's fish beat it easily. If he wanted to exaggerate the weight of his fish, he would only have had to claim it weighed 32 pounds to beat the record. He had no incentive at all to add on an extra 12 pounds to say it was 44 lbs, unless it actually was. If he wanted to cheat, he would not have kept it and phoned London Zoo. As he said in the interview, it was accurately weighed by the zoo. It probably lost weight overnight while in the sack, so it was probably several ounces heavier when caught.
It does not look 44 and its not the only common he took out of there ,there's a film on UA-cam about keven maddocks fishery withy pool and how walker put a common in there that he said he got from redmire
Grown up in the 70s really was on if my fishing hero's along with jack Hilton pure legends.
The most famous carp of them all
Some of the people commenting on here, appear to confirm my definition of "modern carp fishing": "A field sport, involving several baited hooks and lines, with a creature with a brain the size of a walnut at one end, and (eventually) a carp at the other"!
River carping is great for unknown powerful fish and minimal anglers!
@@jamiebruce4924Rivers; where the carp have no names! I can imagine that river carping is wonderful, if your rivers hold enough carp to make it worthwhile.
Wonderful, evocative stuff from the days before carp fishing became big business and lost its soul. It seems as though there are more carp anglers than carp these days, and most of them appear to want to take all the mystery out of it by naming all of the fish, and telling the world about it. I know that it is only a consequence of living in a crowded country where carp fishing is fashionable, but when I go fishing, I don't want to know that, for example, "Hermione the mirror has been out three times this month, and has lost nine ounces this year, so she is now only a scraper twenty". Where will it all end; barcodes on every fish telling the angler its name, how many times it has been caught and its favourite bait?
Totally understand what you mean Portcullis but there is still some good quiet fishing to be had out there and fish with no name, it is getting harder to find so when you do, keep it to yourself ;)
It is true that there are still some beautiful waters out there that offer quiet fishing if you search ('Where The Carp Have No Names', to quote the title of an article in 'Waterlog' magazine!). I fish a beautiful club water; two mature pools set in woodlands, with sensible stocking levels, a complicated system for day permits and a night fishing ban. Although it can be a hassle to get permits and to pack up at dusk, at least it keeps the morons away so the banks are unspoiled, and the waters don't get overfished. The fish aren't huge (another plus factor that deters the idiots), but a couple of weeks ago, I caught my biggest ever carp there, a mirror of 26.5 pounds, close in, on a simple rig, on a cube of red 'fermented curd' (produced in a certain county in the English Midlands)! Not a huge fish by national standards, but it is probably one of the biggest fish in the lake. The nice thing was that I had never seen the fish before, and I don't know its name, or how often it comes out for a look around the woods! Talking of the moronic element, I am not sure that I can completely agree with the definition of 'Modern Carp Angling' that I read in the latest Oxford English Dictionary. "A field sport, involving the use of several baited lines, with a creature at one end with a brain the size of a walnut, and (eventually) at the other end, a carp". A bit harsh perhaps!
Yeah m8 Bring back the mid 80s wicked times
Angling,for my money is like music...better in the 60s! The soul has gone out of it.Carp hard to catch? Not on the day ticket dug and stocked holes in the ground I fish...They throw themselves at you!....in return for buckets of groundbait. Oh for the days of wild clean water and natural fish stocks.Split cane rods, Mitchel reels ,jumpers for goal posts.... Marvelous....and I,m not joking
I think the reason Chris Yates's claim was refused, he had no way of keeping the carp until a BFCC official could get to him to verify the claim so he released it. I suppose you could ask why he did not have a carp sack handy like Richard Walker had.
Walker didn't have a carp sack - when he talks about a wet sack, that is literally what he means, a sack that was wet!
I remember the event well, it was widely reported at the time. A pity that the fish didn't do well at the zoo. It lost a lot of weight and never looked well whenever I saw her.
If Richards carp was 44lb, Chris's one had to weight 60.
Even Richard said at the time that he was amazed at the weight, and had they included the potato sack, he also mentions that in several of his books.
Brilliant review history from such a gent pity the fish went to a tank,
Can't believe the geezer put the fish in the zoo?
Yes how can it was not his own pool and fish. He migh wanted to prevent that some one else catch the fish later as a bigger record.
It was either that or they would have killed it , why do you think theres loads of stuffed fish in glass cabinets ? Its what they did to big fish back in the day .
@@Kolenkachel21 Different times. I think you misunderstand. At the time, the general public, and most anglers, did not believe that carp grew so large in Britain.
@@Moggy471 Maybe Moggy, we'll never know how carp fishing would have gone without this capture, there were certainly fish growing elsewhere and they would have eventually been caught..
The guvnor.
So he catches a Wild carp, and rings a fkin zoo, do you want a fish,,,,, cruel barsreward, ,, or is ok for us all to do that is it.
alan roberts time's and attitudes have thankfully change. Back in the day a dead fish was the only to claim a record. Then you probably know that. Can you imagine the outcry now. some things change for the better
Yea I always thought it was very sad that fish went into the zoo and mybe a little cruel too and I can't think of any good reason for it, great carpy history but far from perfect..different times now but not by any means better in every way..!!
@day jee Do you really believe what you have written?
@@joannejackson2536 The 1950s were a completely different time. Most attitudes in fishing have changed for the worst, but returning fish is one thing that has changed for the better. Having said that, it has to be that way as there are now nearly as many carp anglers as there are carp! The original point of fishing was hunting for the pot. It is worth remembering that when we have to defend modern angling to non-anglers. While many non-anglers like to hear that we don't kill the fish, many of them have a real problem with us enjoying catching and returning fish to be caught repeatedly.
@@joannejackson2536 shut up you mug
No way that fish was 44lb ! walker made a lot of money as the record holder he was a liar and a cheat and robbed his mates and other anglers who did catch record carp over for the next 28 years! Right from the start us anglers being exploited by the rich
No need to lie