Great video.... I decided to Dremel cut the bottom out to the belts and then just replace the belts. Took me 10 minutes. No one sees the bottom good to go!
Great video Bob Allen! Fortunately for me, after watching your video I scrolled down to Jeremy Michaels comment. His suggestion to use the Dremel worked very well. It did take a bit longer than 10 minutes to cut the bottom out but certainly faster than the correct method. Mine will take a 420mm * 8mm belt and a 537mm * 8mm belt. Due to the Covid 19 epidemic, looks like it will take more than a month to get the belts from Amazon. Still worth the wait. Thanks again Bob and Jeremy.
Jeremy, thank you, but I found your comment after I spent 2 hours to disassemble this nice bread maker "non invasive way". I had my three fingers cut, bleeding, cursing, wishing all the best to WestBend engineers. Thank you, but again, wish I saw your comment earlier.
I got one for free 2nd hand the other day (had to order new paddles, as they were missing). Well, I ran it today, and after the 1st knead, it made a racket & the paddles stopped turning. I transferred the dough to a Cuisinart one i have (vertical machine). I knew it probably were the belts, but i had to verify before ordering. I figured there were screws under the little caps, but I had to search for where the tabs were, so thank you. That was the hardest part because I didn't want to break it. And ya, the large belt had completely rotted & disintegrated and some was wrapped around the spindle to the motor, strings & all. It was all gummy. Had to use Goo Gone, a metal pick, & a grout brush to clean the gears off. Ordered new belts. Should have it put back together in lile 5 minutes once I get the new belts, & it'll be as good as new! I love fixing stuff (I was an army diesel mechanic, but little things are fun too). I used a small putty knife to pru up the screw covers & to pry apart the outer plastic pieces while pushing the tabs on the inside. Unplugged the control panel & power supply.
This video was very helpful. I followed his instructions and was able to replace the belts and reassemble the unit. No easy task! One caution--watch the whole video because at the end he gives some very helpful additional details.
Appreciate all your help replacing the 2 belts bread machine. The hook was a must to get the top off. I installed the rubber ring before installing the top, nice!! Definitely worth fixing, These machines amazingly hold their value for as old as they are.. Thank you sir... 🤘
i picked up one of these at a goodwill for a couple bucks and when i got it home, i cleaned it up, made my mix and popped the pan in only to find the paddles wouldn't turn. your video has given me the confidence to attempt to fix it myself instead of chucking it. here's hoping it's as simple as you made it seem :)
Thanks for your comments. There will be some stress with the process but stay with it. The last time i checked the belts could be found on Amazon. I noted the size of each in my video. Good luck.
Thank you so much for this video! I live in Brazil and no one could fix my west bend bread maker. With your help I was able to fix it myself! Cheers!!!
Thank you for this video! My machine started making noises after having the dough through the first knead cycle and yours was the first one that came up on how to service it. The only thing I did differently from you was that after I got the beauty ring off and undid the 5 capped screws, I was able to use my hook to unclip the machine top from the body and get that off before working on the screws holding the machine to the body/bottom with a standard sized screw driver. Now I just need to find belts >.
Great very useful video, I have this exact bread maker and what I did was cut the bottom belt section off of the machine to get access to the belts. Not sure it’s safe or the best option but it worked for me.
This bread maker was very difficult to take apart. The top screws under the lid were hidden by round plastic plugs. I removed the round plastic plugs with a very small eye glass regular screwdriver or pick. Then plastic clips all the way around need to be uncliped. I pushed the screwdriver in one of the side vents to unclip one then you have to work your way around with a long tool or screwdriver to undo them all. The plastic clips on the inside that holds the top together is the worst part. Getting the clips to unclip is very hard. You need a poker to unclip them all or you will break the plastic. Once you get the top off, you unplug your control panel (Remember wire strap clips in on the top) Then inside remove only the eight long base screws using a long magnetic tip screwdriver (not your normal 6 inch you will need a 7 inch). Then lift the whole entire machine out of the case. On the bottom there are two belts, one small 420mm. and one large belt 537mm. Our threads came off the larger belt and wrapped around the motor pulley shaft. I removed the threads around the motor pulley shaft, cut the lose frayed threads off the belt put the belt back on and put it all back together Video was helpful however he did a lot of things that where unnecessary just remove the 5 screws under the plastic plugs unclip the control panel. Remove only the 8 long screws at the base. Much more simplified.
Nice video. These are nice hackable and repairable machines; I have a bomann cb594 that has basically the same innards, but very slightly different case. Even the paddle spindles on the bread pan are sort-of repairable - mine fell out because the little rubber/TPE rings rotted away - so I just put new rings on. But they really don't make it easy to disassemble - particularly the clips on the top section can be really tough to pop, and why do you have to loosen/separate the oven enclosure from the bottom platform, it makes no sense. I can imagine these fairly standard components made into a machine explicitly designed for easy repair etc could be quite popular. Cheap, easily repairable, and that header allows you to hack your own control circuit, which I'm in the process of doing for mine. Fun fact, I bought mine used in a 'developing' nation. When I first used it the belts broke, so I disassembled it, only to find in place of belts were 2 loops of string! I guess the previous owner had it 'fixed' at a local repair place, then sold it quick.
Bob, Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to create this tutorial video. Unfortunately, I disassembled our 43100 today before watching it :P As you can imagine, the disassembly would have been easier with your tutorial. Regardless, your video is appreciated...and I'm sure will help others in the future. Cheers
Thank you! My breadmaker is almost 10 years old and now it stops to turn the blades while motor is working. I think it could be the timing belt. My biggest problem is to take out those 5 black plastic caps, covering the screws to disassemble it. Two of them went out easily, and the others are completely stuck. Is it any life hack for that?
Sorry for the late reply. If you are not concerned about appearance, you can drill a very small hole in each cap and then partially screw in a small sheet metal or wood screw then pull out the screw and the cap should come out.
Did you glue the bottom back on? I've replaced the belts several years ago. I bought an identical one for my son and the belt broke on his. Looking for an easier fix this time.
I did not remove the bottom. I showed how to replace belts by taking the unit apart from the top. There was another youtube from someone else who replaced the belts from the bottom. Amazon has the replacement belts for the model 41300 unit.Belt set 420mm/537mm is the correct size. Bob
Bob, thanks to your video, I have the bread maker (mine is a Wolfgang Puck) apart and the replacement belts. How did you get the smaller belt on to the smaller idle wheel and the middle smaller middle wheel? I tried putting the two wheels on together but it is too tight to match the idle sprocket indents and get each fully seated. The larger belt is much easier. I do not want to force it. Did you soak belt in hot water allowing the belt to expand or other method? Thanks
Hi. I sent you a reply. Did you receive It? I will answer here again. I also had that problem. Took both pulleys off as you did. I put the belt around them and forced the pulleys back onto the shafts at the same time. Some bread makers use a different length belt. Your model may require the larger belt. You can also try loosening the screws on the two pulley units to allow for some play in those units. I just got you latest msg about your success. Good. If i have to replace these belts again, I won't. I will buy a new unit. Bob
@@boballen4771 Yes, Thanks. The two belt configuration caught my attention. Wife found the two belt Wolfgang Puck set on Ebay, so I would change the larger one if needed. This model had the aluminum insert (8) screws on the inside. This allows you to remove the aluminum insert before removing the top. That plastic ring is a b***h to re-install. After removing the 6 bottom screws (2 are security spanner head) and 8 clips, the top comes off. An additional 8 screws removed to gain access to the belts. Definitely an experience [|;-)
Good evening sir, Please, I would like to know why the kneading spindle in my Elta electric bread maker is so loose, and how can I fix the defect. I ask you to answer my question as soon as possible.
Hello, Sounds like the plastic bearing of that paddle is worn out or has broken. The belt tension on those paddles is very high. While I know the belts are still available, I am guessing that the paddle replacement bearing kit is no longer available. I recently bought a new bread maker on sale on Amazon for $49.00. I would not take my unit apart again for $49.00 so I bought a new one.
There are much simpler ways of repairing the belts . Look at the tube for repairing a silver crest 850 as it seems to be the same machine. I have just replaced the belts 50 minute job.
Before I take it apart and follow the video to fix it, where do you get the replacement belt? I can't find it online. If you address it in the video, my apology.
Hello. Thanks for your questions. Watch my video to the end. I leave additional information about the belts. It has been many years since I did this replacement. As I remember, I found the belts in a kit on Amazon. Bob
Hi, do you happen to know how many teeths each band must have?, And what's their height, I'm trying to buy them locally but im still not sure of the specs and I can't find them anywhere
Hello and thank you for your question. I did not count the number of teeth nor did I measure the width of each belt. As I recall, I gave the part numbers of each belt in the video. They are still available online.
Thanks e@@boballen4771 !, I already disassembled it and measured the belts, In case anyone needs it, the small belt measures 420mm all around, 8mm height and had 140 teeths, I'm not completely sure about this because mine was completely shattered but the measurements were taken from a seller and the number of teeths were calculated in function of another band that fitted well. The big belt varies in my machine it had a perimeter of 537mm, height of 8mm and 179 teeths.
My Westbend bread machine is very similar but slightly different. This video was very helpful to me. My small belt shedded.
Great video.... I decided to Dremel cut the bottom out to the belts and then just replace the belts. Took me 10 minutes. No one sees the bottom good to go!
That is a great solution. Wish I thought of it.
Great video Bob Allen! Fortunately for me, after watching your video I scrolled down to Jeremy Michaels comment. His suggestion to use the Dremel worked very well. It did take a bit longer than 10 minutes to cut the bottom out but certainly faster than the correct method. Mine will take a 420mm * 8mm belt and a 537mm * 8mm belt. Due to the Covid 19 epidemic, looks like it will take more than a month to get the belts from Amazon. Still worth the wait. Thanks again Bob and Jeremy.
Jeremy, thank you, but I found your comment after I spent 2 hours to disassemble this nice bread maker "non invasive way". I had my three fingers cut, bleeding, cursing, wishing all the best to WestBend engineers. Thank you, but again, wish I saw your comment earlier.
I got one for free 2nd hand the other day (had to order new paddles, as they were missing). Well, I ran it today, and after the 1st knead, it made a racket & the paddles stopped turning. I transferred the dough to a Cuisinart one i have (vertical machine). I knew it probably were the belts, but i had to verify before ordering. I figured there were screws under the little caps, but I had to search for where the tabs were, so thank you. That was the hardest part because I didn't want to break it. And ya, the large belt had completely rotted & disintegrated and some was wrapped around the spindle to the motor, strings & all. It was all gummy. Had to use Goo Gone, a metal pick, & a grout brush to clean the gears off. Ordered new belts. Should have it put back together in lile 5 minutes once I get the new belts, & it'll be as good as new! I love fixing stuff (I was an army diesel mechanic, but little things are fun too).
I used a small putty knife to pru up the screw covers & to pry apart the outer plastic pieces while pushing the tabs on the inside. Unplugged the control panel & power supply.
This video was very helpful. I followed his instructions and was able to replace the belts and reassemble the unit. No easy task! One caution--watch the whole video because at the end he gives some very helpful additional details.
Appreciate all your help replacing the 2 belts bread machine.
The hook was a must to get the top off. I installed the rubber ring before installing the top, nice!! Definitely worth fixing, These machines amazingly hold their value for as old as they are.. Thank you sir... 🤘
i picked up one of these at a goodwill for a couple bucks and when i got it home, i cleaned it up, made my mix and popped the pan in only to find the paddles wouldn't turn. your video has given me the confidence to attempt to fix it myself instead of chucking it. here's hoping it's as simple as you made it seem :)
Thanks for your comments. There will be some stress with the process but stay with it. The last time i checked the belts could be found on Amazon. I noted the size of each in my video. Good luck.
Thank you so much for this video! I live in Brazil and no one could fix my west bend bread maker. With your help I was able to fix it myself! Cheers!!!
Thank you for this video!! You saved me from having to throw something out-that still otherwise worked- into an already crowded landfill!
Thank you for this video!
My machine started making noises after having the dough through the first knead cycle and yours was the first one that came up on how to service it. The only thing I did differently from you was that after I got the beauty ring off and undid the 5 capped screws, I was able to use my hook to unclip the machine top from the body and get that off before working on the screws holding the machine to the body/bottom with a standard sized screw driver.
Now I just need to find belts >.
Great very useful video, I have this exact bread maker and what I did was cut the bottom belt section off of the machine to get access to the belts. Not sure it’s safe or the best option but it worked for me.
Good for you. More than one way to skin a bread machine.
This bread maker was very difficult to take apart. The top screws under the lid were hidden by round plastic plugs. I removed the round plastic plugs with a very small eye glass regular screwdriver or pick. Then plastic clips all the way around need to be uncliped. I pushed the screwdriver in one of the side vents to unclip one then you have to work your way around with a long tool or screwdriver to undo them all. The plastic clips on the inside that holds the top together is the worst part. Getting the clips to unclip is very hard. You need a poker to unclip them all or you will break the plastic. Once you get the top off, you unplug your control panel (Remember wire strap clips in on the top) Then inside remove only the eight long base screws using a long magnetic tip screwdriver (not your normal 6 inch you will need a 7 inch). Then lift the whole entire machine out of the case. On the bottom there are two belts, one small 420mm. and one large belt 537mm. Our threads came off the larger belt and wrapped around the motor pulley shaft. I removed the threads around the motor pulley shaft, cut the lose frayed threads off the belt put the belt back on and put it all back together
Video was helpful however he did a lot of things that where unnecessary just remove the 5 screws under the plastic plugs unclip the control panel. Remove only the 8 long screws at the base.
Much more simplified.
Nice video. These are nice hackable and repairable machines; I have a bomann cb594 that has basically the same innards, but very slightly different case. Even the paddle spindles on the bread pan are sort-of repairable - mine fell out because the little rubber/TPE rings rotted away - so I just put new rings on.
But they really don't make it easy to disassemble - particularly the clips on the top section can be really tough to pop, and why do you have to loosen/separate the oven enclosure from the bottom platform, it makes no sense.
I can imagine these fairly standard components made into a machine explicitly designed for easy repair etc could be quite popular.
Cheap, easily repairable, and that header allows you to hack your own control circuit, which I'm in the process of doing for mine.
Fun fact, I bought mine used in a 'developing' nation. When I first used it the belts broke, so I disassembled it, only to find in place of belts were 2 loops of string! I guess the previous owner had it 'fixed' at a local repair place, then sold it quick.
Bob, Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to create this tutorial video.
Unfortunately, I disassembled our 43100 today before watching it :P
As you can imagine, the disassembly would have been easier with your tutorial.
Regardless, your video is appreciated...and I'm sure will help others in the future.
Cheers
Thank you brother, your video really helped.
Thank you! My breadmaker is almost 10 years old and now it stops to turn the blades while motor is working. I think it could be the timing belt. My biggest problem is to take out those 5 black plastic caps, covering the screws to disassemble it. Two of them went out easily, and the others are completely stuck. Is it any life hack for that?
Sorry for the late reply. If you are not concerned about appearance, you can drill a very small hole in each cap and then partially screw in a small sheet metal or wood screw then pull out the screw and the cap should come out.
I cut out the plastic bottom of the unit. Then replacing belts was a piece of cake. Pun intended. 😎
Did you glue the bottom back on? I've replaced the belts several years ago. I bought an identical one for my son and the belt broke on his. Looking for an easier fix this time.
I did not remove the bottom. I showed how to replace belts by taking the unit apart from the top. There was another youtube from someone else who replaced the belts from the bottom. Amazon has the replacement belts for the model 41300 unit.Belt set 420mm/537mm is the correct size.
Bob
Bob, thanks to your video, I have the bread maker (mine is a Wolfgang Puck) apart and the replacement belts. How did you get the smaller belt on to the smaller idle wheel and the middle smaller middle wheel? I tried putting the two wheels on together but it is too tight to match the idle sprocket indents and get each fully seated. The larger belt is much easier.
I do not want to force it. Did you soak belt in hot water allowing the belt to expand or other method? Thanks
Success, it's same process as larger belt. Initially thought the 4 flanges would not allow me to rotate wheels and slip belt over them.,
Hi. I sent you a reply. Did you receive It? I will answer here again. I also had that problem. Took both pulleys off as you did. I put the belt around them and forced the pulleys back onto the shafts at the same time. Some bread makers use a different length belt. Your model may require the larger belt. You can also try loosening the screws on the two pulley units to allow for some play in those units. I just got you latest msg about your success. Good. If i have to replace these belts again, I won't. I will buy a new unit.
Bob
@@boballen4771 Yes, Thanks. The two belt configuration caught my attention. Wife found the two belt Wolfgang Puck set on Ebay, so I would change the larger one if needed.
This model had the aluminum insert (8) screws on the inside. This allows you to remove the aluminum insert before removing the top. That plastic ring is a b***h to re-install.
After removing the 6 bottom screws (2 are security spanner head) and 8 clips, the top comes off.
An additional 8 screws removed to gain access to the belts. Definitely an experience [|;-)
Good evening sir,
Please, I would like to know why the kneading spindle in my Elta electric bread maker is so loose, and how can I fix the defect.
I ask you to answer my question as soon as possible.
Hello, Sounds like the plastic bearing of that paddle is worn out or has broken. The belt tension on those paddles is very high. While I know the belts are still available, I am guessing that the paddle replacement bearing kit is no longer available. I recently bought a new bread maker on sale on Amazon for $49.00. I would not take my unit apart again for $49.00 so I bought a new one.
There are much simpler ways of repairing the belts . Look at the tube for repairing a silver crest 850 as it seems to be the same machine. I have just replaced the belts 50 minute job.
Care to supply a link? Searched for the terms you used but couldn't find the right video.
Before I take it apart and follow the video to fix it, where do you get the replacement belt? I can't find it online. If you address it in the video, my apology.
The belts were available on Amazon. I ID them in the video
Can't find the belt. Do you have the part number or something? Your video was so helpful BTW.
I'm having trouble finding the belts for this model. Anyone have any advice? The smaller belt on mine was disintegrated.
Hello. Thanks for your questions. Watch my video to the end. I leave additional information about the belts. It has been many years since I did this replacement. As I remember, I found the belts in a kit on Amazon. Bob
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Hi, do you happen to know how many teeths each band must have?, And what's their height, I'm trying to buy them locally but im still not sure of the specs and I can't find them anywhere
Hello and thank you for your question. I did not count the number of teeth nor did I measure the width of each belt. As I recall, I gave the part numbers of each belt in the video. They are still available online.
Thanks e@@boballen4771 !, I already disassembled it and measured the belts, In case anyone needs it, the small belt measures 420mm all around, 8mm height and had 140 teeths, I'm not completely sure about this because mine was completely shattered but the measurements were taken from a seller and the number of teeths were calculated in function of another band that fitted well.
The big belt varies in my machine it had a perimeter of 537mm, height of 8mm and 179 teeths.
My Westbend bread machine is very similar but slightly different. This video was very helpful to me. My small belt shedded.