I know I'm a few months late, but I love the idea of this channel! Highlighting a "lower-tier" and "higher-tier" version of a Commander gives a lot more insight and choice into how to initially build a deck, as well as future adjustments to raise/lower it's competitiveness. You've got a new follower.
an easier combo to pull off that I just found: have a decent amount of treasures on board and play magda. sac 5 treasures to get clock of omens from the library onto the battlefield (text: Tap 2 artifacts, untap target artifact). now if you have a liquimetal torque on board it's perfect, if not, sac 5 more and get it. make magda an artifact. bam tap a treasure and magda to untap magda -> infinite treasures. But they're tapped you say. True but you can still sac them with magda and get bolas's citadel on board and it's pretty much GG since you can tap citadel, sac 10 treasure and deal 10 to everyone and then tap 2 more treasures to untap citadel. badabing badaboom
The visualizations and the ways you explain how the build has a friendly vs. powerful nuance to it was a breathe of fresh air in the EDH tutorial videos I've been watching!
I've upgraded the precon with the friendly approach, before seeing this video. Man, your content is soo good, well detailed. I've just subscribed. Keep the good work.
Great video! I love the format you use with putting the strategy right in the title of the section. I am new to the game and watching this video really cleared up how this deck is played right out of the box. Thanks!
Hello! I'm new to the channel, just wanted to say I really like your format and comparing two different deck lists. I am working on Prosper and wasnt sure how mean I wanted to get, but your powerful version looks awesome! I think I found the version of the deck I'm going to work towards. :)
cool video! Do you have any other resources that list commanders like you did here on the chart/graph you made? It helps some of us on a budget who can't afford to build something and then decide it's not their style :)
I’m a Little bit late but, damn! just bought a prosper deck and to want to upgrade it and found your video. Now I can’t choose between both of your lists as a starting point. Thanks a lot for sharing!
Cool deck prosper is loads of fun to play. Altar of the brood is pretty nasty in this one if u already got the magda dockside cloudstone combo out and also even on its own altar of the brood is synergizing with the stupid amounts of treasures being made... some more creatures that synergize really well with this guy would definitely be Goldspan dragon, Grenzo havoc raiser, Hellkite tyrant (WINCON!!), Etali primal storm (LOL!) :)
Well done, sir, well done. Your analytics & style of presentation bring some objective clarity to your deck building process - it’s what distinguishes your channel. Keep doing what you’re doing.
Huh. My Prosper build is somewhere in between these two- A lot of the interaction from the Power build, but not the combo lines. Relies on some of the alt finishers though- reckless fireweaver, disciple of the vault, etc. I've definitely had some mixed results from certain "exile matters" cards though, and these builds have def given me some solid ideas for a couple of swap-outs.
Probably because there is anti-synergy in the precon with cards that have extra effects if played from hand since there is a high chance for you to exile them. you should add cut//ribbons because you can cast cut from exile and still get it into the graveyard for the finisher with ribbons
i feel like i always have the most advantage with propser, but I always ends up just having to cycle as may cards as possible looking for one of the scary ones, and it doesn’t always happen.
Is a mix of both friendly and cedh viable, or is it too many variables. Things like basing your deck on the friendly, but having bolas' citadel and dockside to make things a little scarier. Or is it bad form for the friendly deck?
I like that you have a powerful version. There are too many $50 dollar deck techs out there and not enough "expensive" deck techs for people with more disposable income.
I’ve watched a few of these Prosper videos to help me upgrade my Prosper Precon deck. I am wondering why nobody likes Lukka (Planeswalker) in this deck? It appears to be really good. Edit: As far as ideas to improve deck tech, maybe show which cards are already in the precon deck and which ones you added.
Not a bad card but you shoot yourself in the foot with the +1 because you can't cast anything but the exiled creatures. other abilities of his are also centered around big creatures which is pretty cool if you want to go that route with prosper but I'd rather see it in a gruul commander deck
Spinerock Knoll would be an autoinclude here. Opponent or you do 7 damage and you dropping like an inferno of the star mounts down free or Fevered Suspicion. Dead of Winter is a nice pickup if you already have snowlands for Draugr I stuck it in. Its like 50 cents instead of 25 bucks for a toxic deluge pretty much. From the power version of deck reckless fireweaver missing its often stronger because it does the damage when clues and foods come out without having to pay the mana to sac them.
Dang after playing this commander so many times it is so much fun, rakdos value train! I'm getting the itch of adding strong cards but thinking it will ruin the fun factor of the deck
Powerful version is okay but I could use these combos in many decks. I like the win con to be more closely related to my deck, not combo that has no connection to my decks flavor.
went to JGH, ur guy over the counter has attitude problem and he never put in the fabled passage for me. only to self check when im away and came back to claim the freebie. disappointed with my experience there.
I have a question actually, are we agreed with da fact that the deck can never be played in competitive way? (because mOX / Lotus / and lot other than deflective or xhaos where ban? ) and , can i have an advice about what kind of cards i can replace for this one where banned? Because actually i dont see how to replace a Sol (exept with sol talisman) or other strongest card like manacrypt and other :/
In my play group prosper gets so much hate and is targeted instantly. It's my favourite deck and I rarely ever will with it cause I'm archenemy when I play it
Aetherflux reservoir gains you life for each spell you've cast that turn. So playing top for the first time gains you 1 life. But the second time gains you 2 life. And the third time gains you 3 life. So you're netting extra life anytime after the first cast. Sorry if it wasn't explained well in the video!
The combo works because you continously tap and draw off the top, putting it on top of library, which allows you to recast off of the citadel, triggering aetherflux to gain you 1 life for each spell youve cast this turn. So the first time you play the top you gain one, negating the citadel life cost to cast the top from the top of library, but the second cast will gain you 2 life. then you tap and draw the next card off your sensei's top, putting it back on top and recasting of the citadel-gaining you more life. eventually youve played it enough time that aethrflux has given you hundreds of life, and you use the aetherflux second ability to nuke each other player by paying 50 life to deal 50 damage. Does that make sense?
An absolute POWERHOUSE of a commander - which power level do you prefer? And which commander should we build next?
Goblin Wort, raidmother with goblins tribal and spellslinger (damage spells and extra combat phase or turns)
I know I'm a few months late, but I love the idea of this channel! Highlighting a "lower-tier" and "higher-tier" version of a Commander gives a lot more insight and choice into how to initially build a deck, as well as future adjustments to raise/lower it's competitiveness. You've got a new follower.
Awesome! Thanks!
an easier combo to pull off that I just found: have a decent amount of treasures on board and play magda. sac 5 treasures to get clock of omens from the library onto the battlefield (text: Tap 2 artifacts, untap target artifact). now if you have a liquimetal torque on board it's perfect, if not, sac 5 more and get it. make magda an artifact. bam tap a treasure and magda to untap magda -> infinite treasures. But they're tapped you say. True but you can still sac them with magda and get bolas's citadel on board and it's pretty much GG since you can tap citadel, sac 10 treasure and deal 10 to everyone and then tap 2 more treasures to untap citadel. badabing badaboom
Big fan of the channel and the math/analytical breakdown. Great content and it's obvious you put hard work into this. Keep it up!
Thanks! Glad you enjoy it :)
such a great series. Love the comparison between the two!
Keep 'em coming, those are great!
Thanks! We will!
The visualizations and the ways you explain how the build has a friendly vs. powerful nuance to it was a breathe of fresh air in the EDH tutorial videos I've been watching!
I've upgraded the precon with the friendly approach, before seeing this video. Man, your content is soo good, well detailed. I've just subscribed.
Keep the good work.
Thanks!!!
I really like this format, as it really sets the videos apart from all of the other straight budget upgrade videos.
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Prosper looks like so much fun. He gives so much value it’s hard to not want to build him as a core rakdos player.
Yeah he's pure value
Great Video! I love the format with two options, side by side. I am digging the dragons as finishers angle.
Awesome!
Great video! I love the format you use with putting the strategy right in the title of the section. I am new to the game and watching this video really cleared up how this deck is played right out of the box. Thanks!
Awesome, have fun!
Great breakdown and well organized, good work! Definitely taking this into consideration with my first cedh build, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Loving this series already! Congrats from Argentina!
Thanks!! Glad you enjoy it :)
Hello! I'm new to the channel, just wanted to say I really like your format and comparing two different deck lists. I am working on Prosper and wasnt sure how mean I wanted to get, but your powerful version looks awesome! I think I found the version of the deck I'm going to work towards. :)
That's awesome! Thanks and good luck!
cool video! Do you have any other resources that list commanders like you did here on the chart/graph you made? It helps some of us on a budget who can't afford to build something and then decide it's not their style :)
I’m a Little bit late but, damn! just bought a prosper deck and to want to upgrade it and found your video. Now I can’t choose between both of your lists as a starting point. Thanks a lot for sharing!
Welcome!
Love the builds. Definitely gave me great ideas for upgrading my prosper deck!
That's great!
Love the format of this video! I subscribe to hopefully see more :D
Awesome, thanks!
This was great! I love your channel!
Thank you so much!
Cool deck prosper is loads of fun to play. Altar of the brood is pretty nasty in this one if u already got the magda dockside cloudstone combo out and also even on its own altar of the brood is synergizing with the stupid amounts of treasures being made... some more creatures that synergize really well with this guy would definitely be Goldspan dragon, Grenzo havoc raiser, Hellkite tyrant (WINCON!!), Etali primal storm (LOL!) :)
I like the idea of having 2 different builds. Nice 👌
Glad you like it!
great video breakdown, one thing i'd want is maybe see a game played with this deck in an actual match after
I started at a friendly theme but ended up with the powerful theme ! XD
Well done, sir, well done. Your analytics & style of presentation bring some objective clarity to your deck building process - it’s what distinguishes your channel. Keep doing what you’re doing.
Thank you kindly! More to come!
Huh. My Prosper build is somewhere in between these two- A lot of the interaction from the Power build, but not the combo lines. Relies on some of the alt finishers though- reckless fireweaver, disciple of the vault, etc.
I've definitely had some mixed results from certain "exile matters" cards though, and these builds have def given me some solid ideas for a couple of swap-outs.
Awesome!
Probably because there is anti-synergy in the precon with cards that have extra effects if played from hand since there is a high chance for you to exile them. you should add cut//ribbons because you can cast cut from exile and still get it into the graveyard for the finisher with ribbons
sweet dude thanks
No problem 👍
Great idea, but you need to blow up the cards on screen when you talk about it. Too small on moxfield when you hover over it.
Thanks for the feedback! Will do so next time
Would you ever reconsider doing a new version of prosper? Especially with all the new cards that came out with streets of new capena and balders gate.
This is my first and only commander I will ever use hahaha
i feel like i always have the most advantage with propser, but I always ends up just having to cycle as may cards as possible looking for one of the scary ones, and it doesn’t always happen.
Is a mix of both friendly and cedh viable, or is it too many variables. Things like basing your deck on the friendly, but having bolas' citadel and dockside to make things a little scarier. Or is it bad form for the friendly deck?
I like that you have a powerful version. There are too many $50 dollar deck techs out there and not enough "expensive" deck techs for people with more disposable income.
Very nice
Thanks
I’ve watched a few of these Prosper videos to help me upgrade my Prosper Precon deck. I am wondering why nobody likes Lukka (Planeswalker) in this deck? It appears to be really good.
Edit: As far as ideas to improve deck tech, maybe show which cards are already in the precon deck and which ones you added.
Ah, great suggestion, thanks!
Not a bad card but you shoot yourself in the foot with the +1 because you can't cast anything but the exiled creatures. other abilities of his are also centered around big creatures which is pretty cool if you want to go that route with prosper but I'd rather see it in a gruul commander deck
I doubt about how suspend cards could be casted while exiled with Prosper. By activating its ability or they are just 0 mana cost?
Yeah they can't actually be cast :/
Spinerock Knoll would be an autoinclude here. Opponent or you do 7 damage and you dropping like an inferno of the star mounts down free or Fevered Suspicion. Dead of Winter is a nice pickup if you already have snowlands for Draugr I stuck it in. Its like 50 cents instead of 25 bucks for a toxic deluge pretty much.
From the power version of deck reckless fireweaver missing its often stronger because it does the damage when clues and foods come out without having to pay the mana to sac them.
Dang after playing this commander so many times it is so much fun, rakdos value train! I'm getting the itch of adding strong cards but thinking it will ruin the fun factor of the deck
He is so much value
i really like the powerfull version, but i wanna build somethin powerfull on theme.....maybe i could work in a combination because budget
He is Simic Good Stuff in Rakdos
Certainly seems like it
I know I am super late, but please please build a powerful esix build
Powerful version is okay but I could use these combos in many decks. I like the win con to be more closely related to my deck, not combo that has no connection to my decks flavor.
went to JGH, ur guy over the counter has attitude problem and he never put in the fabled passage for me. only to self check when im away and came back to claim the freebie. disappointed with my experience there.
Hey, sorry to hear about that. Mistakes happen, I've passed on your feedback and we'll work to keep improving :)
*Checks desciption before watching*
Friendly and Steal in the same sentence!
this was super informative, but unfortunately a lot of cards here are also super expensive lol.
Yeah, well :/
Actually Xorn don't DOUBLING the treasure you get, he just add ONE more to the pool of token you create :)
I have a question actually, are we agreed with da fact that the deck can never be played in competitive way? (because mOX / Lotus / and lot other than deflective or xhaos where ban? ) and , can i have an advice about what kind of cards i can replace for this one where banned? Because actually i dont see how to replace a Sol (exept with sol talisman) or other strongest card like manacrypt and other :/
In my play group prosper gets so much hate and is targeted instantly. It's my favourite deck and I rarely ever will with it cause I'm archenemy when I play it
If I only had $1,800 to spend on one deck
That blouses citadel and aetherflux combo doesn't win though u don't gain any extra life u spend 1 life to make 1 life and draw deck
Aetherflux reservoir gains you life for each spell you've cast that turn. So playing top for the first time gains you 1 life. But the second time gains you 2 life. And the third time gains you 3 life. So you're netting extra life anytime after the first cast. Sorry if it wasn't explained well in the video!
The combo works because you continously tap and draw off the top, putting it on top of library, which allows you to recast off of the citadel, triggering aetherflux to gain you 1 life for each spell youve cast this turn. So the first time you play the top you gain one, negating the citadel life cost to cast the top from the top of library, but the second cast will gain you 2 life. then you tap and draw the next card off your sensei's top, putting it back on top and recasting of the citadel-gaining you more life. eventually youve played it enough time that aethrflux has given you hundreds of life, and you use the aetherflux second ability to nuke each other player by paying 50 life to deal 50 damage. Does that make sense?