I watched 3 adaptations and watched some highlights from another one, but this one scene is the only one that stayed with me for more than a decade. Fassbender and Wasikowska are sublime actors. His voice breaking and her 'God help me' are some of the best acting I've ever seen.
I feel this movie is the only adaptation that I feel 100% managed to nail the emotional turmoil of this scene while also managing to keep it realistic. I’ve seen almost every version of Jane Eyre and this scene from the book seems to be the one that filmmakers tend to have the hardest time with for some reason. Without naming names…adaptions either tend to downplay it or skim over it to the point the emotional turmoil of the characters is almost completely lost. Or they choose to overdo it to the point it becomes completely melodramatic, which to be fair, might seem closer to the way it’s portrayed in the book, but unfortunately comes across as completely over the top on film. Or they just change it completely to the point the characters are behaving completely out of character. This movie is the only adaption that I felt kept this scene as close to the book as possible without going into melodrama territory. Both actors are breaking down, but they aren’t overacting it.
Rochester is asking a lot, and he knows it. He's technically married, he lied, and he betrayed her trust. He knows, in a sense, that Jane lived a life of great pain before him. So, to be so hurt after finally putting her heart out there is tough. He risks next to nothing if he tries to marry or much less have Jane as a mistress. But if Jane caves, she's ruined for life. There's just so much heavy emotion going on on both sides.
Both Mia and Michael are great as Jane and Rochester (yes, Michael is way too hot but who cares) I think the problem is the script, to capture the real depth of the characters in only two hours is impossible and they left out many key parts of the book .. This should have been a mini series at least, other than that, great cast, cinematography, and a beautiful score by Dario Marianelli
Very well put. I really enjoy both Mia and Michael as actors but there is something off about this version of Jane Eyre. I revisit it every so few years and still find it falls a bit flat. The chemistry is just a bit off for me. Where as if you watch Crimson Peak Mia and Toms chemistry is a bit more palpable. Even though I do really love Michael's acting ability. So your comment makes so much sense as Crimson Peak is a more condensed straight forward story. I doesn't have the same depth as Bronte's Jane Eyre meaning it adapted itself to the movie screen a bit better.
The strength that Jane had to have to tear herself away from him at that moment can’t be overstated. I’d argue that 99% of women in her situation, poor, no family, treated like trash all her life, unloved…finally experiencing love from a Man who wants her that bad, most would give into him. Jane was the 1%
People keep forgetting that J.E it's a wonderful gothic novel, so mystical; the love story is so unique and interesting as their characters!!!! I think I saw any version possible of it on screen. This last one and the one with Samantha Morton are my favourites!!!!🖤
His behaviour is unforgivable, especially considering how much older he is and a man. He is perfectly aware that as a man risks nothing and at the same time ask her to risk everything. And he is an abuser and a manipulater.
Typical Byronic hero our Mr Rochester is. Absolutely could not give a s*** about societal expectations (starting a friendship with Jane in the first place) and then saying a big F*** you to what was expected of him In marriage.
When you see that love is stronger then pain of ego and when you know that no matter what you do love so much and forgive or not you will still love then after a moment of understanding that you know that love wins over pain
summary of entire story :: i think Jane agrees to be Rochester's governess, he starts to fall madly in love with her. Then, she tries to leave him. But, out of feelings of guilt, obligation, & regret comes back. He begs her to never leave him again, but she's terrified because of how much of a lunatic he is. Yet, she knows it's not all his fault, since he was coerced into marrying another lunatic, himself {as he, here, explains}. She runs away. Then comes back. They marry each other. The end.
I dont think its that shes terrified of him, more so that she feels so obligated to obey human law she overlooks her own feelings and longings completely
This is completely wrong. They fall in love with each other. It wasn't just one way. She comes back to him in the end because she loves him as much as he loves her, and his wife is now dead, so there's no impediment to their marriage. She knows that he only did what he did because he loved her so much, and that he was the one who was wronged in the first place. She pitied him and the situation he was put in. After he suffers a great deal, she cannot help but to be drawn back to him; again, she loves him deeply, as well.
Michael is so handsome that the viewer gets lost in his beautiful eyes but he is not Rochester for me. The role of mr Rochester needs pathos, depth and strength. It's hard to depict one's despair and try as he might, Michael did not "nail" the part but he definately tried. Only Timothy Dalton comes close to the actual fictional hero that Charlotte Bronte created!
I agree. The way Dalton portrays Rochester as this steely, intelligent, mysterious, brooding man of imminence who gets caught up in the whirlwinds of a deep impossible love, and who's character gives way to desperation, vulnerability, and rash irrationality - it's exactly as Rochester is written in the book. Michael's Rochester lacks the strength of character and gravitas needed for the viewer to see the change in Rochester's character that only Jane Eyre could inspire.
Mine too, and when he was holding himself crying, and when James leaving him and telling him not to follow, it broke my heart. I really wanted to hug him and tell him she will be back, and I will be OK.
I like her and love Samantha Morton while I don't get the hype for Zelah and Ruth: albeit good actresses, they didn't manage to 'deliver' Jane in my opinion
@@SibyllaCumana Finally! I don't get the hype for Zelah either. In fact, she said that Jane Eyre effectively ended her career, which is kinda true. Samantha Morton was astonishing as Jane Eyre. I would have liked to see her with Timothy Dalton.
2006 or the timothy dalton version i find most accurate with the book also better endings 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 this one doesnt even give a conclusion there just standing and hugging eachother 🙄🙄🙄
It a bit unfair to compare a Mini Series to a Movie and complain that the Movie left things out. OF COURSE a Mini Series will have more scenes then a 2 hour film! 🙄 I find that the Dalton Mini Series is the most in-depth complete adaptation of the novel, while this movie was the best at capturing the atmosphere and spirit of the novel.
@@S.rn16He was already married and lied and deceived her into thinking that he was single and never married, worse, he kept his wife locked away and refused to love her and instead lusted after Jane. Jane was wise to leave such a guy.
Sorry but this pairing doesn't do it for me. And why does she alway rock back and forth? She does it in a number of her scenes; it's especially noticable in the proposal scene. It's like she is trying to gear up emotion. She doesn't have enough gravitas for me; I would like to see her in something now. I'll bet the years have added depth to her acting.
I always imagined Jane with an almost statuesque stillness to her. Mia does that perfectly. I don't want a Jane with gravitas, because Jane is pretty subdued in her movement and expression.
@@portishphonic Gravitas just mean dignity, composure, and/or strength of character. The actual Jane in the book is written with gravitas. She has a quiet dignity, and strength of mind and principle despite her low position.
That Charlotte Bronte gave her such cleverness and strength is quite remarkable.
At that time it's hard to forgive. She already came from a lifetime of pain and everytime she loved someone they died or in this case betrayal...
At any time it’s hard to forgive.
She had already forgiven Rochester, but couldn't be with him simply because it was wrong. He was a married man.
But she forgave him immediately, that's what book says, she just wouldn't esteem herself if she lived as a mistress with Rochester in front of God.
Brilliant acting from both
Died? Rochester is her first
I watched 3 adaptations and watched some highlights from another one, but this one scene is the only one that stayed with me for more than a decade. Fassbender and Wasikowska are sublime actors. His voice breaking and her 'God help me' are some of the best acting I've ever seen.
I feel this movie is the only adaptation that I feel 100% managed to nail the emotional turmoil of this scene while also managing to keep it realistic. I’ve seen almost every version of Jane Eyre and this scene from the book seems to be the one that filmmakers tend to have the hardest time with for some reason.
Without naming names…adaptions either tend to downplay it or skim over it to the point the emotional turmoil of the characters is almost completely lost. Or they choose to overdo it to the point it becomes completely melodramatic, which to be fair, might seem closer to the way it’s portrayed in the book, but unfortunately comes across as completely over the top on film. Or they just change it completely to the point the characters are behaving completely out of character.
This movie is the only adaption that I felt kept this scene as close to the book as possible without going into melodrama territory. Both actors are breaking down, but they aren’t overacting it.
Rochester is asking a lot, and he knows it. He's technically married, he lied, and he betrayed her trust. He knows, in a sense, that Jane lived a life of great pain before him. So, to be so hurt after finally putting her heart out there is tough.
He risks next to nothing if he tries to marry or much less have Jane as a mistress. But if Jane caves, she's ruined for life. There's just so much heavy emotion going on on both sides.
He risks prison time for bigamy🙄🙄 a big no no in the a 1850s😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 lol
That very close shot of the fireplace igniting is so important to this scene.
Both Mia and Michael are great as Jane and Rochester (yes, Michael is way too hot but who cares) I think the problem is the script, to capture the real depth of the characters in only two hours is impossible and they left out many key parts of the book .. This should have been a mini series at least, other than that, great cast, cinematography, and a beautiful score by Dario Marianelli
Very well put. I really enjoy both Mia and Michael as actors but there is something off about this version of Jane Eyre. I revisit it every so few years and still find it falls a bit flat. The chemistry is just a bit off for me. Where as if you watch Crimson Peak Mia and Toms chemistry is a bit more palpable. Even though I do really love Michael's acting ability. So your comment makes so much sense as Crimson Peak is a more condensed straight forward story. I doesn't have the same depth as Bronte's Jane Eyre meaning it adapted itself to the movie screen a bit better.
"God help me"
Kills me every time
The strength that Jane had to have to tear herself away from him at that moment can’t be overstated.
I’d argue that 99% of women in her situation, poor, no family, treated like trash all her life, unloved…finally experiencing love from a Man who wants her that bad, most would give into him.
Jane was the 1%
People keep forgetting that J.E it's a wonderful gothic novel, so mystical; the love story is so unique and interesting as their characters!!!! I think I saw any version possible of it on screen. This last one and the one with Samantha Morton are my favourites!!!!🖤
A Victorian gothic horror the vulnerability of an orphaned friendless woman a wonderful love story
You see repentance is not the cure, reformation is
Indeed.
Very nicely said.
Reformation is part of repentance though.
His behaviour is unforgivable, especially considering how much older he is and a man. He is perfectly aware that as a man risks nothing and at the same time ask her to risk everything. And he is an abuser and a manipulater.
Typical Byronic hero our Mr Rochester is.
Absolutely could not give a s*** about societal expectations (starting a friendship with Jane in the first place) and then saying a big F*** you to what was expected of him
In marriage.
I don’t know this version of Jane Eyre, I must see it!
Such a heartbreaking scene and they both portrayed their characters so well
Me seeing this scene while being on my period was not a good idea 😭😭😭
When you see that love is stronger then pain of ego and when you know that no matter what you do love so much and forgive or not you will still love then after a moment of understanding that you know that love wins over pain
This is not love. It is adultery. Jane would have been wise to never go back. Unfortunately, her tragedy is that she went back.
Fassbender in macbeth was off the charts ✌ blackaggie 🖤
summary of entire story ::
i think Jane agrees to be Rochester's governess, he starts to fall madly in love with her. Then, she tries to leave him. But, out of feelings of guilt, obligation, & regret comes back.
He begs her to never leave him again, but she's terrified because of how much of a lunatic he is.
Yet, she knows it's not all his fault, since he was coerced into marrying another lunatic, himself {as he, here, explains}.
She runs away.
Then comes back.
They marry each other.
The end.
I dont think its that shes terrified of him, more so that she feels so obligated to obey human law she overlooks her own feelings and longings completely
Did you not see the look on her face after he almost kissed her. She fell for him right away
you should really read the book
This is completely wrong. They fall in love with each other. It wasn't just one way. She comes back to him in the end because she loves him as much as he loves her, and his wife is now dead, so there's no impediment to their marriage. She knows that he only did what he did because he loved her so much, and that he was the one who was wronged in the first place. She pitied him and the situation he was put in. After he suffers a great deal, she cannot help but to be drawn back to him; again, she loves him deeply, as well.
Rochester is not considered a lunatic; he's passionate. His passion and vulnerability are what draw Jane to him.
Michael is so handsome that the viewer gets lost in his beautiful eyes but he is not Rochester for me. The role of mr Rochester needs pathos, depth and strength. It's hard to depict one's despair and try as he might, Michael did not "nail" the part but he definately tried. Only Timothy Dalton comes close to the actual fictional hero that Charlotte Bronte created!
I agree. The way Dalton portrays Rochester as this steely, intelligent, mysterious, brooding man of imminence who gets caught up in the whirlwinds of a deep impossible love, and who's character gives way to desperation, vulnerability, and rash irrationality - it's exactly as Rochester is written in the book. Michael's Rochester lacks the strength of character and gravitas needed for the viewer to see the change in Rochester's character that only Jane Eyre could inspire.
Trouble in paradise
There have been many versions made but Timothy Dalton is my favorite Rochester.
I agree. He's the most handsome one, but his acting is so convincing that he doesn't matter. His portrayal is the truest Rochester of all.
Mine too, and when he was holding himself crying, and when James leaving him and telling him not to follow, it broke my heart. I really wanted to hug him and tell him she will be back, and I will be OK.
She's an exceptional actress. Her Rochester isn't worthy of her. She deserves Timothy Dalton.
I like her and love Samantha Morton while I don't get the hype for Zelah and Ruth: albeit good actresses, they didn't manage to 'deliver' Jane in my opinion
My favourite version is the Zelah Clarke/Timothy Dalton tv series.
@@SibyllaCumana Finally! I don't get the hype for Zelah either. In fact, she said that Jane Eyre effectively ended her career, which is kinda true. Samantha Morton was astonishing as Jane Eyre. I would have liked to see her with Timothy Dalton.
2006 or the timothy dalton version i find most accurate with the book also better endings 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 this one doesnt even give a conclusion there just standing and hugging eachother 🙄🙄🙄
It a bit unfair to compare a Mini Series to a Movie and complain that the Movie left things out. OF COURSE a Mini Series will have more scenes then a 2 hour film! 🙄
I find that the Dalton Mini Series is the most in-depth complete adaptation of the novel, while this movie was the best at capturing the atmosphere and spirit of the novel.
@Tulips85 it's just I found the ending lacking open conclusions with is annoying could have done the ending a lot better ...
@@cabahab2996To each his own 🤷♀
Why he begged her ?
Because he knows he’s done her wrong
@@rpaafourever7908 thank you but did you know what he done to her ?
he hid his wife in the attic @@S.rn16
@@S.rn16Please read the book, it’s absolutely amazing.
@@S.rn16He was already married and lied and deceived her into thinking that he was single and never married, worse, he kept his wife locked away and refused to love her and instead lusted after Jane. Jane was wise to leave such a guy.
Sorry but this pairing doesn't do it for me. And why does she alway rock back and forth? She does it in a number of her scenes; it's especially noticable in the proposal scene. It's like she is trying to gear up emotion. She doesn't have enough gravitas for me; I would like to see her in something now. I'll bet the years have added depth to her acting.
Rocking can be a self soothing behavior, and sometimes even more common in orphans due to not being held enough as a child. Maybe that's why?
I always imagined Jane with an almost statuesque stillness to her. Mia does that perfectly. I don't want a Jane with gravitas, because Jane is pretty subdued in her movement and expression.
@@portishphonic Gravitas just mean dignity, composure, and/or strength of character. The actual Jane in the book is written with gravitas. She has a quiet dignity, and strength of mind and principle despite her low position.