This dial is very much like a mandala design, or even a lotus flower design. Especially with the circular direction of the facets. Absolutely beautiful. The red one, ("Negroni" I think), is fascinating too!
I bought this a while back. I looked at it through a loupe lens since I remembered you saying about the imperfection on the date window. Turns out it isn't a rough imperfection, it's actually a finishing similar to the hour markers. Grainy on the inside then polished on the outer edge.
I bought the green version of this. I agree with most of what you say, especially about the fantastic dial. However, one point I might disagree a bit is that it's not versatile to use with all kinds of straps including NATOs. I understand that some dress watches really look weird with a NATO strap but this one, being a dress watch, has a little bit sportiness to it in my opinion. As soon as I bought it, I put a dark green NATO with a yellow line in the middle. It matched the green dial with goldish numerals almost perfectly and looks even better than the original leather strap.
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Very beautiful watch and more appropriate size for a modern dress/dressier watch. I have a limited edition Cocktail time SRPC03 that I bought in Japan that I am a fan of, but the dial texture is much more subtle than this. I like the original 40mm cocktail case due to its relative short lug-to-lug, but I imagine that this smaller case would make it fit even more wrists and be better suited in more formal attire. I toned down my Cocktail Time by putting it on a rubber Uncle Seiko Waffle strap and actually take it hiking and wear it on a regular basis.
I love the srpc03. Just a lovely texture. I agree the 40mm case wears well but as I do normally prefer a smaller watch I do like this smaller case more. Love that you made the presage more casual. “Dress watches” can be worn whenever, maybe minus swimming.
@@theknightswatch before the flu I traveled to SE Asia a few times; and going through Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos I saw many older European travelers wear their dress watches on rubber or nylons bands. Still get to enjoy a piece you love and you don’t have to destroy a leather band in the 80% humidity or deal with stinky leather.
I wish they'd just close the caseback and put a nice engraving on it. It would also save a millimeter in thickness for an already thick watch. Otherwise beautiful piece, I've seen them in real life and love the brown-red version also. Looks amazing on that dusty leather strap. My favourite cocktail time is still the light blue, older model, but I lean towards lighter dials anyway. If only they made it at a smaller size!
The caseback engraving is a very cool idea. My only thought on that is this type of range is very often a good entry point for starting/ new colllectors and at that stage any movement is awesome to see. And knowing Seiko I don’t think they’d go for that cool of an engraving at the price.
Another good looking watch in Presage series. As other entry-level Presage models, it indeed has some cons, but it also looks quite good, especially in this price range.
Agreed! Love Seiko expanding on the range and almost setting the trend for bigger companies to go smaller in diameter. Excited to see what else comes out of this line.
I think the "dressiness" of it can be addressed by swapping in some more casual straps. I would love to see a navy blue strap with some orange stitching on this.
Mismirising dial in sun light. Great size, great fit/finish. Biggest con is the wretched included strap. I have the green Mojito on a honey brown ostrich strap. Not for all occasions. Great Christmas watch.
Stunning dial. For that price it needs a sapphire crystal. A slightly domed or even flat sapphire would’ve been a great addition and also shaved off a mm or two.
Ya people usually like sapphire but I think if people are still waiting to pay 3-6k for the speedmaster and vintage Rolex with acrylic crystals then I don’t think this at 400 isn’t too bad.
@@theknightswatch no sapphire is not a deal breaker...watch is more than sum of parts. I rather have a watch that speaks to me than higher spec'd watch that gathers dust in my drawler. I/many collectors actually prefer acrylic on vintage/vintage themed watches due to its charm/warm distortion. Take acrylic over sapphire anyday on my speedy. Love my vintage Rolex with acrylic/hollow bracelet more than my newer ones due to comfort/charm.
I really love the first strap khaki. It goes perfect with this Presage Model. I couldn't catch well the name of the maker of the strap. could you let us know where we can buy it?
Another top notch review! IMO if they would have put in the 6R35 movement (70hrs) , a sapphire crystal, more polished numerals, and a crown with a less tapered base for under $1000 this would be a home run. Still for $425 it’s not bad just not as great as could have been for a few hundred more
Ya I think those are all great points but it’s nice to have some great dials in the lower end range rather than restricting it for some closer to 1000. It’s great but definitely better value out there if you look for it.
Just ordered a nearly new one at a good price. Plan to put a Milanese bracelet on it. As much as I love the design, Seiko really over price their watches
Awfully nice to see the “Mockingbird” right next to this one, I think I’m picking between that and the Mojito, despite the charms of this blue dial and other color ways. They’re all beautiful, but I’ll probably go with the Mojito. I think as an everyday dress watch it’s hard to argue with. If you had to go with just one green dial, what would your preference be?
I personally don’t like gold so that rules the mojito out for me but I do like the size and depth of color more than the mockingbird. Can’t go wrong with either but the mojito is probably better as long as you like gold.
@@theknightswatch Thanks, I appreciate your thoughts on it! I guess I hadn't really considered the gold aspect-probably would be too much for me if they did the case in gold tone as well, but with just the indices I figure it's much like the green Alpinist, which I don't mind. Thanks for including the little strap section as well, there are so many options out there it's great to see what others have chosen, and I really like your pairings.
Thank you, I’ve owned both and I just prefer this one a little more, the dial texture and depth is a little more unique than the mochingbird, both great watches so no bad choice to be had
hi I know I'm late but... seiko's website says this watch has a 11.8 mm thickness, is the crystal part of this thickness or not? also not sure u can answer this but do you think could I get a flatter crystal put in at a watch shop to make the watch a little thinner? Thanks for responding if u see this
on a fence on getting this or SRPE49J1 , this is cheaper by 35% . Unfortunately , no one is selling these watches in my city so I cant really see the actual watches :S, I actually like both. I don't know if I want to pay 35% extra just to get a "limited edition" engraved on the back of the watch.
Having seen both in person they are definitely different. This 43 has a little more color depth and is more understated. The 49 is much brighter, much more flashy, and is more decidedly one color. Can’t go wrong either either!
@@theknightswatch thank you so much kind sir! I appreciate you! From a guy who bought 6 seikos last weekend and could have used a video like that! Especially within the seiko 5 and pressge with all the cocktails But i would love to learn All about all the models
Seiko 5 is entry lv with no screw down crown and 4r movements - 40h reserve. $400 Presage have entry lv 4r movements, but are more presage. Domed crystals, applied indices and better finish. $400-$800. expensive ones have 6R movements with 70h power reserve. Prospex line is for sport - the real stuff. Water resistance, sd crown, sapphire crystal, lumibright lume. Lots of history, movie presence and so on. Divers - Chrono stuff. These are around $500 solar quartz - to $1000 for an average guy. Over that is Oris territory. For your reference: $400- 4r movement. $800 and over 6r movement - over that is 8r maybe and spring drive. - $2-3-6k again you are looking at swiss ih you have that kind of k. Go to their website and you'll have separated lineup of each. And why did you buy 6 Seikos over the weekend? That's is not the way you do it. Uffff
I’ve almost bought one many times. But for almost 500 seiko is taking the customers for a ride. If it was 39mm, with the 6r auto, and a slight redesign to have lume at least on the hands. I would buy this watch for $500! Yes I know you can buy cheap versions on eBay but my comments still stand. This watch should be $250 as it sits and seiko knows it.
@@johannguasch754 is that good for the US? I’m just saying it’s a lot for nothing special at all except a dial. Your paying almost 500 just for a dial nothing else. You can buy tons of seikos for half this price with same movement and case finishing. Seiko is gouging it’s customers just to get a cool dial. It’s just not respectful and I won’t play the game. But to each his own.
@@uiualumni no problem, genuinely thought it was a word for a second when I said it haha, and the word exists just not the way I used it. Thanks for the support 🙏🏻
ATTENTION à cette boucle déployante Seiko. Elle est TRES dangereuse. Elle prend TRES vite du jeu jusqu'au jour où la montre fini par tomber par terre. Ca m'est arrivé, la montre est tombé sur le carrelage et a été endommagée. C'est arrivé à un ami avec le même fermoir et il a eu la chance que la montre tombe sur un tapis. La question n'est pas de savoir si la montre tombera. la question est de savoir quand elle tombera et où. A changer sans attendre.
This dial is very much like a mandala design, or even a lotus flower design. Especially with the circular direction of the facets. Absolutely beautiful. The red one, ("Negroni" I think), is fascinating too!
I really like those cocktails. Classy and yet useable.
I bought this a while back. I looked at it through a loupe lens since I remembered you saying about the imperfection on the date window. Turns out it isn't a rough imperfection, it's actually a finishing similar to the hour markers. Grainy on the inside then polished on the outer edge.
One side brushed, one side polished. I think it's supposed to help catch the light, actually a cool detail
I bought the green version of this. I agree with most of what you say, especially about the fantastic dial. However, one point I might disagree a bit is that it's not versatile to use with all kinds of straps including NATOs. I understand that some dress watches really look weird with a NATO strap but this one, being a dress watch, has a little bit sportiness to it in my opinion. As soon as I bought it, I put a dark green NATO with a yellow line in the middle. It matched the green dial with goldish numerals almost perfectly and looks even better than the original leather strap.
Brother. I dont know how I ran Into your channel. But after months watching other UA-camrs..... the fact you started out with a calipers to really show what's up.... and something about your review style and opinions.... your very very very very underrated! I subbed!
I would watch you review a butter knife lol
For real man your style for reviews is really detailed and interesting
Fantastic fucking eye on the date border
Dude your the shit at reviewing things!
Haha appreciate you, I’m glad you enjoyed the review. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on some of my stuff/ the watches
@@theknightswatch im going to start digging into your portfolio tomorrow or Saturday is Friday night gets wild
But I got you for sure!
Very beautiful watch and more appropriate size for a modern dress/dressier watch.
I have a limited edition Cocktail time SRPC03 that I bought in Japan that I am a fan of, but the dial texture is much more subtle than this.
I like the original 40mm cocktail case due to its relative short lug-to-lug, but I imagine that this smaller case would make it fit even more wrists and be better suited in more formal attire.
I toned down my Cocktail Time by putting it on a rubber Uncle Seiko Waffle strap and actually take it hiking and wear it on a regular basis.
I love the srpc03. Just a lovely texture. I agree the 40mm case wears well but as I do normally prefer a smaller watch I do like this smaller case more. Love that you made the presage more casual. “Dress watches” can be worn whenever, maybe minus swimming.
@@theknightswatch before the flu I traveled to SE Asia a few times; and going through Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos I saw many older European travelers wear their dress watches on rubber or nylons bands. Still get to enjoy a piece you love and you don’t have to destroy a leather band in the 80% humidity or deal with stinky leather.
Super informative :) You covered every aspect I could possibly think of, and then some. Thanks for the review!
Glad to hear it, thank you for taking the time to watch.
I ordered the cocktail time grasshopper with the open heart arrives tomorrow.. so excited
I could see buying this just because it’d be fun to photograph!
Almost the exact reason I don’t want to let I go!
I wish they'd just close the caseback and put a nice engraving on it. It would also save a millimeter in thickness for an already thick watch.
Otherwise beautiful piece, I've seen them in real life and love the brown-red version also. Looks amazing on that dusty leather strap.
My favourite cocktail time is still the light blue, older model, but I lean towards lighter dials anyway. If only they made it at a smaller size!
The caseback engraving is a very cool idea. My only thought on that is this type of range is very often a good entry point for starting/ new colllectors and at that stage any movement is awesome to see. And knowing Seiko I don’t think they’d go for that cool of an engraving at the price.
Great review! I like how you showcased different color combinations with other straps. Wished more people did that.
I think this is a truely wonderful dial
Another good looking watch in Presage series. As other entry-level Presage models, it indeed has some cons, but it also looks quite good, especially in this price range.
Agreed! Love Seiko expanding on the range and almost setting the trend for bigger companies to go smaller in diameter. Excited to see what else comes out of this line.
I think the "dressiness" of it can be addressed by swapping in some more casual straps. I would love to see a navy blue strap with some orange stitching on this.
Mismirising dial in sun light.
Great size, great fit/finish. Biggest con is the wretched included strap. I have the green Mojito on a honey brown ostrich strap. Not for all occasions. Great Christmas watch.
Your macros are awesome ... Keep up the good work!
Thank you I appreciate it!
Such a beautiful piece! I just can't understand why they would not use sapphire crystal ??!! That just makes it a no-go for so many of us.
I think the shape of the crystal means its safer as hardlex. Better knock resistance. But yeah will get scratched up alot more
Stunning dial. For that price it needs a sapphire crystal. A slightly domed or even flat sapphire would’ve been a great addition and also shaved off a mm or two.
Ya people usually like sapphire but I think if people are still waiting to pay 3-6k for the speedmaster and vintage Rolex with acrylic crystals then I don’t think this at 400 isn’t too bad.
@@theknightswatch no sapphire is not a deal breaker...watch is more than sum of parts. I rather have a watch that speaks to me than higher spec'd watch that gathers dust in my drawler.
I/many collectors actually prefer acrylic on vintage/vintage themed watches due to its charm/warm distortion.
Take acrylic over sapphire anyday on my speedy. Love my vintage Rolex with acrylic/hollow bracelet more than my newer ones due to comfort/charm.
Great video. I just got one of these and I don't disagree with anything you said. 👍
This watch needs a brown strap! It would compliment the blue much better
I really love the first strap khaki. It goes perfect with this Presage Model. I couldn't catch well the name of the maker of the strap. could you let us know where we can buy it?
Another top notch review! IMO if they would have put in the 6R35 movement (70hrs) , a sapphire crystal, more polished numerals, and a crown with a less tapered base for under $1000 this would be a home run. Still for $425 it’s not bad just not as great as could have been for a few hundred more
Ya I think those are all great points but it’s nice to have some great dials in the lower end range rather than restricting it for some closer to 1000. It’s great but definitely better value out there if you look for it.
And thank you for watching!
Very good video.
What is the strap size ? I Want to buy new strap for this watch. But not sure to buy 20mm strap or some other measurement.
Thank you it’s 20mm for straps
Oh yeah homie.
Great Video. Quiet the look at it. liked it
Thanks for watching!
Just ordered a nearly new one at a good price. Plan to put a Milanese bracelet on it. As much as I love the design, Seiko really over price their watches
I bet it will look gorgeous on a Milanese bracelet.
Where did you order it from?
@@pjayind2325 I bought it privately and sold it a while ago. Great dial, but there are better watches for less
@@watchalot919 any recs for a nice dial like that for less?
This watch looks nice. I am tired though of the gold rotors. I would prefer regular silver.
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Awfully nice to see the “Mockingbird” right next to this one, I think I’m picking between that and the Mojito, despite the charms of this blue dial and other color ways. They’re all beautiful, but I’ll probably go with the Mojito. I think as an everyday dress watch it’s hard to argue with.
If you had to go with just one green dial, what would your preference be?
I personally don’t like gold so that rules the mojito out for me but I do like the size and depth of color more than the mockingbird. Can’t go wrong with either but the mojito is probably better as long as you like gold.
@@theknightswatch Thanks, I appreciate your thoughts on it! I guess I hadn't really considered the gold aspect-probably would be too much for me if they did the case in gold tone as well, but with just the indices I figure it's much like the green Alpinist, which I don't mind. Thanks for including the little strap section as well, there are so many options out there it's great to see what others have chosen, and I really like your pairings.
I like this watch, what is the size of the strap.
It has similar needle seconds hand as well as the hour and minutes hand!as Sarb033. Nice but the dial is a little mesmerising bordering to clutter.
Defintely going to be a little too busy for some but I think it’s executed well.
Nice review, what's your opinion between this one and the mockingbird except regarding the size ?
Thank you, I’ve owned both and I just prefer this one a little more, the dial texture and depth is a little more unique than the mochingbird, both great watches so no bad choice to be had
hi I know I'm late but...
seiko's website says this watch has a 11.8 mm thickness, is the crystal part of this thickness or not?
also not sure u can answer this but do you think could I get a flatter crystal put in at a watch shop to make the watch a little thinner?
Thanks for responding if u see this
Ya I measured 11.9 with the crystal. I don’t think there is anyone that makes replacement crystals right now but I’m sure they will at some point
If only that date window wasn't there
Agreed but at least it’s black so it doesn’t stand out as much
Is the top of glass dome or flat?
Dome.
on a fence on getting this or SRPE49J1 , this is cheaper by 35% . Unfortunately , no one is selling these watches in my city so I cant really see the actual watches :S, I actually like both. I don't know if I want to pay 35% extra just to get a "limited edition" engraved on the back of the watch.
Having seen both in person they are definitely different. This 43 has a little more color depth and is more understated. The 49 is much brighter, much more flashy, and is more decidedly one color. Can’t go wrong either either!
What's your wrist size?
For newbies like myself who gravitated towards seiko
Could you break down their entry level mid level top level etc models?
Forsure try to get to that later this month/early next month
@@theknightswatch thank you so much kind sir! I appreciate you! From a guy who bought 6 seikos last weekend and could have used a video like that!
Especially within the seiko 5 and pressge with all the cocktails
But i would love to learn All about all the models
Seiko 5 is entry lv with no screw down crown and 4r movements - 40h reserve. $400
Presage have entry lv 4r movements, but are more presage. Domed crystals, applied indices and better finish. $400-$800. expensive ones have 6R movements with 70h power reserve.
Prospex line is for sport - the real stuff. Water resistance, sd crown, sapphire crystal, lumibright lume.
Lots of history, movie presence and so on. Divers - Chrono stuff.
These are around $500 solar quartz - to $1000 for an average guy. Over that is Oris territory.
For your reference: $400- 4r movement. $800 and over 6r movement - over that is 8r maybe and spring drive. - $2-3-6k again you are looking at swiss ih you have that kind of k.
Go to their website and you'll have separated lineup of each.
And why did you buy 6 Seikos over the weekend? That's is not the way you do it. Uffff
Looking for a bracelet for this watch, any suggestions?
Nothing comes to mind. Maybe try a 20mm Milanese bracelet
the crown gap breaks it for me.
Can you give you the link to buy the strap please ?
Which strap?
The brown one ? :)
Wish it was a sapphire tho
I’ve almost bought one many times. But for almost 500 seiko is taking the customers for a ride. If it was 39mm, with the 6r auto, and a slight redesign to have lume at least on the hands. I would buy this watch for $500! Yes I know you can buy cheap versions on eBay but my comments still stand. This watch should be $250 as it sits and seiko knows it.
That’s how much it is in asia.
@@johannguasch754 is that good for the US? I’m just saying it’s a lot for nothing special at all except a dial. Your paying almost 500 just for a dial nothing else. You can buy tons of seikos for half this price with same movement and case finishing. Seiko is gouging it’s customers just to get a cool dial. It’s just not respectful and I won’t play the game. But to each his own.
Bought today...$285.
Did he say “dynamicism” ???????
Videos aren’t scripted so every once and a while a weird word may come out. I think most get the point.
Just giving you a hard time. I’m a subscriber. It’s all in good fun.
@@uiualumni no problem, genuinely thought it was a word for a second when I said it haha, and the word exists just not the way I used it. Thanks for the support 🙏🏻
ATTENTION à cette boucle déployante Seiko. Elle est TRES dangereuse. Elle prend TRES vite du jeu jusqu'au jour où la montre fini par tomber par terre. Ca m'est arrivé, la montre est tombé sur le carrelage et a été endommagée. C'est arrivé à un ami avec le même fermoir et il a eu la chance que la montre tombe sur un tapis.
La question n'est pas de savoir si la montre tombera. la question est de savoir quand elle tombera et où.
A changer sans attendre.
Anyone who spends more than 20 bucks on Asia garbage doesn't deserve to be called watch connoisseur
Wonderful insight my friend
Is there any lume to it ?
Nope no lume