It makes sense. I believe it will be under $90K for sure. I can’t wait….just hoping I don’t have to wait years for an actual allocation to get mine (I’m on two lists)
You really think the LT6 engine cost the same as the LT4 ~$15k? IDK but that seems low for a clean slate engine with those kind of internals. I mean rumor has it that their Blackwing V8's were $30k a pop, granted they had twin turbo's.
Now add an additional $50K dealer markup, like they are quoting in CA., and you are at $140K before options. GM needs to put a stop to dealers scalping people. I want a Z06 and can afford it, but I refuse to pay a huge sticker premium, no way.
If any is marking these up and they get reported, Corvette cuts their allocations. Seen a done a few time. If they are marking them up, you're at the wrong business. I've had Corvettes for many, many years, never paid markup and if you got a real good dealership, they won't charge to put you on a buy list.
I have no issue with dealer markup, everything I sell, from my houses to my used cars I get as much as the market with bear and nobody needs one of these. People that want to be the first pay the most, as time goes on the market will adjust down. Then if you don't like what someone is selling something for you are welcome to go somewhere else. It's capitalism.
The salesman don’t actually work for gm they work for the dealership. Your number might be right but calling it confirmed on the word of two salesman is a stretch
The pricing seems reasonable and accurate. Those who manage to get this car at MSRP are very lucky! In the middle east where i am, the markup is 20-25% standard:(
But 40k-50k markups then your in the 200k $ mark and honestly as much as I love the z06 been waiting for it since 2019 but for that price point, i think I’ll pass and look into a lambo or Ferrari tbh. Although deep down inside I still believe the z06 is better 🤣
When I got on the list for my 2022 C8 I received a signed letter guaranteeing to pay no more then MSRP. They 100% honored that guarantee on delivery. When I got on the list for my 2023 Z06 I was given that same signed doc. So I will only be paying MSRP on my Z06.
I actually don’t see that, it was the same with the C7 ZO6 and Chevy was giving the friends and family discount! They will be ok the lot sitting! Things will come up! 100k cars are hard to justify as they are impractical! Guess we will see
We need to buy from the non-markup dealers so they get more allocated. Be willing to wait a bit to get it for tens of thousands less. It’ll benefit all of us when the markup kings don’t sell any.
That's right in the range I'd been predicting all along. I'd figured somewhere between $84,995.00 and $87,995.00 base MSRP. Hoping that the $87k is including destination charges. Not that it matters, so very few people will be able to get any C8 Z06 for MSRP for quite a long time.
If this is accurate, I'm impressed. I expected a bigger difference in base vs z06, visited to the c7. Mostly because this time the Z06 has a completely new, and entirely exclusive engine and a hand built one at that. Usually the Z06 just has a modified ls/lt. Of course with all the options that price is pretty high, but if you really can get like a 2lt, maybe 3lt trim with say aero package but not full z07, for under 100k?! (Before taxes, and dodging mark-ups) that's amazing! I think I'd be happy enough with that spec. Still out of reach for me, but something I could aspire to
My Stingray build was $85k so I might wait for the Z06… the only question I’m curious about is long term maintenance cost? I want to retire and drive and don’t want my 401k drained on maintenance… 😂 I might be waiting to see the redesigned C8.
@@narrowistheway77 I hadn't heard that, but GM is smart for standing behind their product. Valvetrain and cam chain durability are my major concerns with the LT6.
Hope you're right but I see this car starting at 100K at the least. The newest engine design in GM history won't go without an equal increase in price. Then dealer markups come in especially with a Z07 and you'll look at way past 150 to 175K. Hope I'm wrong but it's going to get pricy before long.
Great info as always HPO -- $87k is an amazingly affordable (starting) price for a car with the specs of this Z06. Considering a highly optioned C8.R coupe has a sticker price of around $103K - a fully optioned Z06 (covered in visible carbon fiber with carbon fiber wheels) for around $125K would be a bargain as compared to the supercars GM is attempting to compete with (and may well be more than just attempting to compete). As a long time Corvette lover, it's great to see the excitement back in Corvettes.
@@ko7305 just stfu. No supercar has a manual now. This is putting 2.6 0-60 you need a dct for that. I got a 700hp single turbo n54 manual. I can’t even put all the power down because of stick shift. Just be happy ur getting a NA v8 making 670hp.
@@SandeepSingh-we7qb Kid, not only are you stupid but also need some soap in your mouth. I have a 500 N54 as well, E92 manual and it is 2x the fun of a FBO S55 M4 DCT. I have driven Porsche 600+ DCT cars and even they are only half as much fun a my 500 manual. Your argument falls apart when you think about the Viper ACR manual shattering just about any record it wanted. All the car journalists, TV presenters, enthusiasts and collectors prefer manual cars, can you guess why??? Dozens of 700+ supercars in the past with manuals but all the sudden it is not feasible?! Porsche stopped making manual 911s and sales plummeted, they brought it back and now 50+% 911s are manual. 1/2 second to 60mph is nothing compared to giving 1/2 the fun. Most people roll race/punch it anyway so performance is identical. A clutch is $500 to replace but a DCT is $10K. Thanks for wasting the time kid, but yea GM fkd up as they could have a unicorn product. Autos/DCTs are appliances, Priuses. You pay more for 1/2 the fun.
I figured it was doing to be around 87K, given 25K over the stingray price like we've seen before. Originally I was thinking it was going to get 85K, but that was back when the stingray was 60K. But still, this is exactly what I've been expecting since the 2020 was revealed.
Great video. Your pricing is right on. It's my understanding the carbon fibre wheels will only be available with the Z07 package as the steering racks on the Z07 cars are tuned to match the wheels.
HA!! I think you are dead on Justin!! I have several dream builds on hand written paper and I came up with almost the same. This makes me even more excited, because I actually added the front lift, not knowing it would be standard. How Awesome is that. My build came up to 117k and change. No Carbon fiber wheels for me, wouldn't last on these Virginia Beach roads. So with battery tender, and destination fee, 120k plus 4% sales tax, and I always get the extended warranty with oil changes. Hopefully I can walk out with less than 130k!! Win win!! General Lee Out!
Moot point. Every dealership will take extreme advantage of customers to keep profits afloat during this chip shortage. Ex: Van Chevrolet in Scottsdale AZ has announced Double MSRP for their Z06. Double meaning the % dealer mark up. And they won’t be available for 3-4 yrs, based on demand and chip shortages. In other words, be prepared to shovel out at least $180K , and wait forever!
150k this car is still a steal compared to other exotics. And the performance is gonna blow the competition away. C8 taking the #1 spot in my book. Love it
Justin, I am not disagreeing with you and I am not nearly as dialed in as you. However, with a totally new FPC engine, I could easily see this being a different scenario than the price differential of the C7 Stingray vs Z06. Plus, there will be an increase from’22-‘23 model years, and inflation between now and six months from now. Who knows what that looks like with this market/economy? That said, I hope you are right! Great video, content, and info. Thanks.
The 2020’s were a whole different design from the C7 and they managed to start the price out at only $3,500 more than a base 2019, and that’s for the manual transmission. For the automatic it was just a $1,100 increase..... and that’s not a dual clutch. Overall, $87,000 was going to be my approximate guess on starting price. ($85,000 - $89,000).
@@HorsePowerObsessed Northeast Ohio. I made a joke with my salesman, the GM, that I should sell my place in line. Lol. He seems to think early next summer for my number to come up but currently they have stopped adding numbers. They're 2 years out on the base and 4 years out on the z06. This dealership is high on the allocation chain so you can imagine how many people are on this lists.
Great info, Justin. You're probably in the ballpark with the base price and most of the options you highlighted. I also agree that magride and front lift will be standard on Z06.
A lot of young'ns are not gonna like this type of news but for those that can afford this car that's somewhat good news as this will make some folks drop off the list. The spec I would like is probably around 130 to 140K if your video here is close.
2 dealers said the same exact number?! Interesting but could it just be a coincidence since GM still haven't announce the pricing yet. And Criswell's Mike who always been pretty accurate on predicting things, said GM probably will announce the pricing around Spring of '22. (Not really a prediction but based on his previous experiences with GM's announcements I guess) Would be awesome if a forum or other youtuber can also confirm this. People need pricing to move onto what trim/options they need next and prepare accordingly!!!
Yea, people are just guessing as usual. No one even has allocations but a very select few around the country and they don't want to lose that first allocations ability, so they aren't going to tell anyone. But is good guess probably close. My bet is 140K to 160K Loaded Z07, all visible carbon fiber, all the bells and whistles. But, soon as they allow actual allocations no one will know.
Hi Justin, I think your $87k for the 1LZ Coupe base price is very close here, but I'm hearing it will be slightly higher here at $90k (for GM marketing reasons = $89,999), but not more than $90k for sure here - I totally agree with you on that max cap-number..! :-)
The difference between this Z06 and other generations is that the C8 Z06 is going to have an exclusive engine… so how can we predict prices without knowing how much It costs Chevrolet to make
Any word on how many 2023 Z06s can be built? If total production is 28,000 like the last few years, I doubt more than 5,000 Z06s CAN be built in 2023. Your thoughts Justin?
That's a good price but of course we know most of us add 15-20k in options as I just picked up my C8 coupe Z51, 3lt fully loaded with $3k paint options and priced for almost $94k. Paid MRSP, but my dealer did say they will probably add at least 25k markup for their Z06 orders so I expect that most will pay in the vicinity of 125-150k to get this car, plus for some a 2-3 year wait. Anyway thanks for the update, Justin. Appreciate your great videos!
And i’m also hearing the waiting list will be really long...like delivery 2 years after production starts. And now with shipping and production delays with everything because of COVID/Vacs...who knows
With companies, even small like ours (we specialize in Honda Jseries V6 engine performance) they will have a pricing structure based off their capabilities, supplies etc. That structure will usually have levels, such as base, Z06 Etc. It's not hard to estimate pricing especially with the larger companies that have a long lineage to apply your math to and estimate their pricing
@@TroutButter probably so he can sell his C8 to pay for his msrp Z06. Which is what I will do if I decide to keep the Z and not sell it. I'm still on the fence about keeping my C8
My 2007 Z06 is on the battery tender for the fowl months here in Ohio and the title is in the bank and I'll just leave it that way. Now I will grant you all of the new gizmos make the C8 something any normal Vette guy would want, but using the right foot in third with a 4.10 gear in the back, come on spring!
I think your pretty close Justin. But I think the 2LZ price will be higher and pretty close to c8 stingray. In C7 2LT didn't include a lot of the things it does in C8. Also im Not sure on front lift included on all Z06 cars I've seen 2 videos where a GM rep says it's worth the extra cost to add the lift because of the splitters, one was Lenos and I can't remember the other, but I hope your right bro... I think (and hope) your right on the CF wheels I've seen carbon revolution have adds for a set for Porsche for like 12k so I think by time you deduct out cost of standard wheels you would have got and get the mass produced discount 9,999.00 sounds good to me. Ps how's the weather outside, never mind I already know since I live about 20 min away haha ot sucks... Nice video man!
You can get a $90k 2022 ZL1 Camaro and send it to Texas Hennessy to add the Exorcist packaged for an additional $50k and have 1000HP and still go 0-60 in approximately 2 seconds just like this Z06 Corvette and that puts you at $114,000! That’s what I’m going to do if I just can’t get lucky enough to find a 2023 Z06 Convertible with the Z07 package 😩
Bomnin Chevrolet in Miami just got one in with the carbon fiber options including the wheels / yellow stitching for 89,995 msrp. It is the coupe model though. Z07 options will run about 10k. I can’t see it being over 110-115k
Though I think the 89,995 is legit, No one has officially released the pricing yet. Z07 + 3LZ interior + carbon fiber options and wheels will likely be over 140k.
You have to be joking, if there is a Zora it will be next to unobtainable and will most likely go to the highest bidder. That car will be over 200K for sure.
@@craviins9056 So you think the Z06 will be unobtainable and cost 200k, yet you think you will get a Zora at a cheaper price lol. Anyone who is crying about dealer markups and not being able to get a Z06 for 3 to 4 years should have planned ahead. I put down a deposit at 2 of the highest volume dealers in my area over a year and a half ago, position #5 and #8. I don't think I will have a problem getting a car as I planned ahead, I'm sure many other did the same you snooze you lose.
I'm hearing two different engines available for the 2023 Corvette a 5.5 ltr. and a 6.3 ltr.Which sounds like a stroked out 327 and a 350 cubic inch to me.What Do You Think?
I guess what I’m trying to say is I went on the configurator and built a 2022 stingray and when I was done it was $85,000 I really find it hard to believe that The base price of a Z06 is going to be 87. My friend that is higher than a car salesman two months ago told me that he would not be surprised if the car was in the six-figure area for BaseThat’s all he would say now I can see why it would be in a six-figure area because it’s totally different. If you had two cars sitting in front of you one was $85,000 at 490 horse and one was $87,000 at 670 horsepower which car are you going to buy I know which one I’m gonna buy.!
87 grand before pos dealer markups i live in VA and am a local delivery driver and recently saw a used non convertible not totally optioned c8 with a sticker of 111,000 i told them im extremely interested in purchasing one of these asap but after that quote i quote told them "have yall bumped yalls head it's used and double the factory's msrp" and this was less than 2 weeks before the reveal of the z06 what gm clearly wanted to make available for most of Americans the dealers are taking advantage of the excitement and demand mostly because of the amazing base price given to the consumer and greedy dealers wanting to get fat on people's dreams and desires bet if i had one and sold it a year later to a dealer i wouldn't get anywhere near that as an offer hope they are stuck with it as a lot ornament until they come to their senses
Nicely optioned,this car will be $120,000-$140,000 for the average joe..That being said if the expected aluminum/magnesium supply chain problem hits as expected early next year you can add another 10-15% to those numbers👍🏼
Justin, I started a thread on mecf and cf with the top 100 dealers and who is and isn't msrp. It's titled "dealer reservation Master list" I have information on 25 dealers so far. This is mainly to help people find an msrp dealer that is still taking reservations.
It's going to be more like $122,000 for the base ZO6 with the mark up charges and if anyone can find a Chevrolet dealership willing to sell the ZO6 at msrp it's going to take research and even then if you find that dealership they probably couldn't fill your order due to being overwhelmed for orders and limited allocations.
Everyone with early allocations is going to want all that carbon fiber stuff and Z07 package. I guarantee you that stuff winds up on constraint. Just like the ground effects when stingray came out
I had used the C7 online design module (thanks for that link) to build a convertible Z06 w/ Z07 pkg, price $120K, so I have set aside $150K for my HTC Z06.
Drake spends a million in a strip club……to put crazy expenses in perspective - not a bad deal $150k and u get a monster car. What does Drake have to show after staring at naked ho’s and dropping a million? Therefore - Drake is an idiot!
By the way, this is easily the best pricing vid of all the famous Corvette Internet presenters. $130 K will shorten the list of those who can buy the car. However, that in no way will mean a short list. The problem is, when you have both supply and demand factors, that makes the price rise and it makes it ever more difficult for dealers to stick to anything close to the list price. AF
It is not difficult for a dealer to stick or MSRP many did and do with the C8 and many will with the Z06. (Yes there are also many who will try price goug) unless you are talking about their greed gland kicking into overdrive..
Quick pricing note. Looking at the sticker of my ZO6 zo7 car there is an extra $2,995 fee just for carbon flash ground effects in addition to the $7995 z07
$87K for a base Z06 is fine! I'm on a list. I don't think a convertible Z06 makes sense, to me! Does it make sense to not have the Z07 package on a Z06? DAMN! (I don't race!) 2LT, front lift. I'm not interested in GM crap carbon fiber wheels for sure. Great info! Thanks a a lot.
If you are not on a list right now,you are 5 years out best case at almost all dealerships. Ciocca, MM, and Criswell all sell at MSRP, but there lists are already 5+ years sold out. They probably make up 40% of all Z06 sales. So for many it’ll be buying a 2nd hand Z06 with even higher markups than people think at least early on. But the ERay will come along and many will ‘settle’ for that, and I think even some Z06 people on a current list will switch to it. Especially if the ERay has power numbers higher than the base car, but looks just like a Z06.
For reference, the biggest difference between the Shelby GT350 and GT350R is the carbon fiber wheels and the difference in price between the two is $15,000. Given the other very minor differences like X pipe delete and rear seat delete, it is widely accepted that the wheels alone are $13,000. Given that, I think your 10k estimate is really low. I'd believe the 20k and if you wanted to get conservative, I'd guess 15.
Wait and see how lt6 holds up before you grab one. Solid valvetrain and never an adjustment is hard to fathom. 8600rpm will suffer down low a bit though.
87k is insane and pretty attainable if you got something going for yourself. Unfortunately the dealers will ruin this by making this car sell around 150k after mark up, crazy shit.
I'll believe that when I see it. Because if that was the case, then why not talk about it during the reveal? That's a GREAT starting price for the C8 Z06; why hide it? Maybe because GM is expecting dealers to mark it up and didn't want to upset customers after the fact? My guess is still $95-$99k - as close to $100k without going over to take advantage of the hype and changes due to ME setup. I hope I'm wrong for those of you interested in buying one. I'm going to wait out until the ZR1 as I had a feeling this Z06 isn't what I wanted and moved on from Corvette for the time being.
@Live from the boot Okay - that I don't remember as I thought when the C8 Stingray was first revealed it had everything mentioned that the C8 Z06 was missing?
I’m with you on this. I don’t see this car being anywhere under 90k. Development costs and other expenses are a lot higher when changing from the stingray to the ZO6 in the C8 generation compared to the C7
To everyone - all I am saying is if the price is good, then why hold it back? There’s no benefit in holding the information at this point as supposedly enough people are already in line to reserve it out for years apparently. My guess is the Z06 will start at just under $100k, average builds be in the $115k, and max build say $140k all before mark ups. Definitely not a range I would pay for a Z06, but good hunting for those wanting to spend that. I just want to know the info like everyone else.
GM is supposed to be bringing back the option to help build your own engine and have your name on the placard. How much would you expect this to be? Also, how long is building the engine expected to take?
I'll take the grey Z06,glass Top, carbon ceramic brakes, aluminum wheels, low rear spoiler. Get it ready, & I'll take it. I do alot of city ,& interstate driving so, hopefully Under the radar, & very little (if @ all) damage. Set it up, Joe.🇺🇸
When the zr1 drops its gonna cost close to 200k if you want to be the 1st customers to get a instant american classic i see the price sky rocketing because it will probably be gm's last ice muscle car before converting to the ev's
The pricing is reasonable. How many will GM build for 3023? I have heard that dealerships are taking deposits for more cars than will be allotted to each dealer and beyond the number of cars that will be built. The customers r trust do not get a 3023 will be refunded. Will they be first in line fir the 2024?
First of all thank you for your informative content. I had also been previously told by a dealer that this was starting price. That is definitely a lot of car for the price. Thousands under any Porsche and a lot more thousands than that for a Ferrari or Lambo.
What do you guys think of the C8 Corvette Z06 pricing? 🤔
I think that is a pretty dang phenomenal price.
I think 10g higher but really close.
I thought the same. Good job.
It makes sense. I believe it will be under $90K for sure. I can’t wait….just hoping I don’t have to wait years for an actual allocation to get mine (I’m on two lists)
You really think the LT6 engine cost the same as the LT4 ~$15k? IDK but that seems low for a clean slate engine with those kind of internals. I mean rumor has it that their Blackwing V8's were $30k a pop, granted they had twin turbo's.
Now add an additional $50K dealer markup, like they are quoting in CA., and you are at $140K before options. GM needs to put a stop to dealers scalping people. I want a Z06 and can afford it, but I refuse to pay a huge sticker premium, no way.
not all dealers are marking them up. Jim Ellis Chevrolet in Atlanta is one.
If any is marking these up and they get reported, Corvette cuts their allocations. Seen a done a few time. If they are marking them up, you're at the wrong business. I've had Corvettes for many, many years, never paid markup and if you got a real good dealership, they won't charge to put you on a buy list.
I have no issue with dealer markup, everything I sell, from my houses to my used cars I get as much as the market with bear and nobody needs one of these. People that want to be the first pay the most, as time goes on the market will adjust down. Then if you don't like what someone is selling something for you are welcome to go somewhere else. It's capitalism.
@@davidmorrow4195 no. It’s shameful.
@@davidmorrow4195 and I did go elsewhere. to a dealer that isn’t charging over MSRP.
The salesman don’t actually work for gm they work for the dealership. Your number might be right but calling it confirmed on the word of two salesman is a stretch
no manual = garbage
The pricing seems reasonable and accurate. Those who manage to get this car at MSRP are very lucky! In the middle east where i am, the markup is 20-25% standard:(
Agreed.
Of course, if you live in the Middle East, it’s assume that you have💵💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
I’ve been told 50k mark up at some places
But 40k-50k markups then your in the 200k $ mark and honestly as much as I love the z06 been waiting for it since 2019 but for that price point, i think I’ll pass and look into a lambo or Ferrari tbh. Although deep down inside I still believe the z06 is better 🤣
Don’t worry, Brandon is giving you guys tons of oil money!
I smashed that like button because you didn’t fuck around and waste 10 minutes of my time before delivering the goods. Thanks for that.
You’re quite welcome
I think the demand for the Z06 will far exceeded production. There will be even bigger markups
Agreed.
When I got on the list for my 2022 C8 I received a signed letter guaranteeing to pay no more then MSRP. They 100% honored that guarantee on delivery. When I got on the list for my 2023 Z06 I was given that same signed doc. So I will only be paying MSRP on my Z06.
@@theelmobad1 good to know! What dealership did you use? That’s the next obvious question hahaha
I actually don’t see that, it was the same with the C7 ZO6 and Chevy was giving the friends and family discount! They will be ok the lot sitting! Things will come up! 100k cars are hard to justify as they are impractical! Guess we will see
@@theelmobad1 what dealership did you go to? the dealerships in my area won’t even take reservations yet
We need to buy from the non-markup dealers so they get more allocated. Be willing to wait a bit to get it for tens of thousands less. It’ll benefit all of us when the markup kings don’t sell any.
So you can flip it for 50k..? Evil dealers....eye roll
Dealership will pretty much know their allocations upfront.
@@danielfair4675 his point is that there is a threat that dealers caught marking up the cars have future allocations taken from them.
@@tjmoneybags They can make a 2 year no resell agreement like Ford did for the GT.
@@tjmoneybags oh hey markup dealer. How you doin’.
I imagine seeing the first lot of full option cars on the "used" market hitting 200k
That would make me want to sell my allotment.
Salesman being shady... Lol
is it still worth it
I agree, I've seen used 2021 base models models approach $130.000, I viewed about 40 cars only 2 were under $90.000, most were well over $100.000
bout that
That's right in the range I'd been predicting all along. I'd figured somewhere between $84,995.00 and $87,995.00 base MSRP. Hoping that the $87k is including destination charges. Not that it matters, so very few people will be able to get any C8 Z06 for MSRP for quite a long time.
Right! I laughed because I won’t be able to order one for the sticker price until GM unveils the ZR1 😂😂😂
If this is accurate, I'm impressed. I expected a bigger difference in base vs z06, visited to the c7. Mostly because this time the Z06 has a completely new, and entirely exclusive engine and a hand built one at that. Usually the Z06 just has a modified ls/lt.
Of course with all the options that price is pretty high, but if you really can get like a 2lt, maybe 3lt trim with say aero package but not full z07, for under 100k?! (Before taxes, and dodging mark-ups) that's amazing! I think I'd be happy enough with that spec. Still out of reach for me, but something I could aspire to
My Stingray build was $85k so I might wait for the Z06… the only question I’m curious about is long term maintenance cost? I want to retire and drive and don’t want my 401k drained on maintenance… 😂 I might be waiting to see the redesigned C8.
Maintenance even on the base C8 was no more than owning a C7. You can do your own oil changes, belt changes, air filter changes, etc.
The engine has a lifetime warranty on the valve train and the chain. That says everything you need to know, it’s gonna cost GM money to service 😁👍🏼
@@narrowistheway77 I hadn't heard that, but GM is smart for standing behind their product. Valvetrain and cam chain durability are my major concerns with the LT6.
Chevrolet needs to put the new 632 with 1004 HP in the Corvette.
@@TheBowtieone that crate engine alone costs as much as my optioned out 2ss camaro lol
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Thanks for not wasting time!
I see I have to give you credit. You are definitely dedicated and I appreciate all the information seeking you have done. Thanks
You are so welcome! Thank YOU!
@@HorsePowerObsessed Can you find out how many of these GM plans to make total?
Hope you're right but I see this car starting at 100K at the least. The newest engine design in GM history won't go without an equal increase in price. Then dealer markups come in especially with a Z07 and you'll look at way past 150 to 175K. Hope I'm wrong but it's going to get pricy before long.
You are right .These people are spreading bullshit with no real idea of what the price is . Two salesmen said .Wth do they know?
I hope you're wrong also but I think you're exactly right.
The pricing is about what I expect however I am going to wait a few years in order to save up a big down payment
That's the way to do it unless you can find one used or msrp but that's pretty unlikely
The waiting list is so long that you’ll only be able to get one in a few years anyway.
Great info as always HPO -- $87k is an amazingly affordable (starting) price for a car with the specs of this Z06. Considering a highly optioned C8.R coupe has a sticker price of around $103K - a fully optioned Z06 (covered in visible carbon fiber with carbon fiber wheels) for around $125K would be a bargain as compared to the supercars GM is attempting to compete with (and may well be more than just attempting to compete). As a long time Corvette lover, it's great to see the excitement back in Corvettes.
no manual = garbage
@@ko7305 just stfu. No supercar has a manual now. This is putting 2.6 0-60 you need a dct for that. I got a 700hp single turbo n54 manual. I can’t even put all the power down because of stick shift. Just be happy ur getting a NA v8 making 670hp.
@@SandeepSingh-we7qb Kid, not only are you stupid but also need some soap in your mouth. I have a 500 N54 as well, E92 manual and it is 2x the fun of a FBO S55 M4 DCT. I have driven Porsche 600+ DCT cars and even they are only half as much fun a my 500 manual. Your argument falls apart when you think about the Viper ACR manual shattering just about any record it wanted. All the car journalists, TV presenters, enthusiasts and collectors prefer manual cars, can you guess why??? Dozens of 700+ supercars in the past with manuals but all the sudden it is not feasible?! Porsche stopped making manual 911s and sales plummeted, they brought it back and now 50+% 911s are manual. 1/2 second to 60mph is nothing compared to giving 1/2 the fun. Most people roll race/punch it anyway so performance is identical. A clutch is $500 to replace but a DCT is $10K. Thanks for wasting the time kid, but yea GM fkd up as they could have a unicorn product. Autos/DCTs are appliances, Priuses. You pay more for 1/2 the fun.
@@ko7305 Why can’t manual and dual clutch both be appreciated for what they are….
@@kubemaster Sure, but they are taking away one and forcing the other on buyers.
I figured it was doing to be around 87K, given 25K over the stingray price like we've seen before. Originally I was thinking it was going to get 85K, but that was back when the stingray was 60K. But still, this is exactly what I've been expecting since the 2020 was revealed.
A used 3lt c8 convertible is almost 130k. This fully decked out with a msrp of around 120k, i’m guessing it will sell for $160-200k 😬
The Z06 will start around 87k to 90k and max out around 150k BEFORE markups.
@@HorsePowerObsessed That's, gonna be a hard car to obtain.
Great video. Your pricing is right on. It's my understanding the carbon fibre wheels will only be available with the Z07 package as the steering racks on the Z07 cars are tuned to match the wheels.
Excellent video! I'm hoping that's an accurate price! My original guestimate was $85k-$87k... so awesome!
HA!! I think you are dead on Justin!! I have several dream builds on hand written paper and I came up with almost the same. This makes me even more excited, because I actually added the front lift, not knowing it would be standard. How Awesome is that. My build came up to 117k and change. No Carbon fiber wheels for me, wouldn't last on these Virginia Beach roads. So with battery tender, and destination fee, 120k plus 4% sales tax, and I always get the extended warranty with oil changes. Hopefully I can walk out with less than 130k!! Win win!! General Lee Out!
Sounds like you may be under that 130k mark! It's going to be an awesome experience all around!
Love the channel my man I'm in Canada I just turned 40 and I traded my Hellcat for a Z06.... My first 2seater just subscribed
Thank you! Welcome to the channel!
Moot point. Every dealership will take extreme advantage of customers to keep profits afloat during this chip shortage. Ex: Van Chevrolet in Scottsdale AZ has announced Double MSRP for their Z06. Double meaning the % dealer mark up. And they won’t be available for 3-4 yrs, based on demand and chip shortages.
In other words, be prepared to shovel out at least $180K , and wait forever!
Not every 😁
I’m in SoCal and I’m pretty sure that’s going to be going on here also!
I’ve just discovered your channel, I appreciate you bro 😎
Welcome!!
150k this car is still a steal compared to other exotics. And the performance is gonna blow the competition away. C8 taking the #1 spot in my book. Love it
Justin, I am not disagreeing with you and I am not nearly as dialed in as you. However, with a totally new FPC engine, I could easily see this being a different scenario than the price differential of the C7 Stingray vs Z06. Plus, there will be an increase from’22-‘23 model years, and inflation between now and six months from now. Who knows what that looks like with this market/economy? That said, I hope you are right! Great video, content, and info. Thanks.
The 2020’s were a whole different design from the C7 and they managed to start the price out at only $3,500 more than a base 2019, and that’s for the manual transmission. For the automatic it was just a $1,100 increase..... and that’s not a dual clutch. Overall, $87,000 was going to be my approximate guess on starting price. ($85,000 - $89,000).
I put my order/build in 3 weeks ago for the 2lt 2023. I'm also 3 on the list for the z06. My dealer is msrp. No mark up. 😊
Sweet! Where at?
@@HorsePowerObsessed Northeast Ohio. I made a joke with my salesman, the GM, that I should sell my place in line. Lol. He seems to think early next summer for my number to come up but currently they have stopped adding numbers. They're 2 years out on the base and 4 years out on the z06. This dealership is high on the allocation chain so you can imagine how many people are on this lists.
Hmmm. Here in Cali. Many base c8’s sell for over 100k. So the new z06 is going to be marked up and start around $150k at least.
No manuals made? Maybe my wife would like it🙂👍🏽
Dream Car Manifestation 🙏🏾💯
Agreed!!
Great info, Justin. You're probably in the ballpark with the base price and most of the options you highlighted. I also agree that magride and front lift will be standard on Z06.
Front Lift will be standard on the 2LZ and 3 LZ but not the 1 LZ.
Magride will be standard on all Z’s
Then you need to add $2,300 to your price. They ain’t given it to you for free
A lot of young'ns are not gonna like this type of news but for those that can afford this car that's somewhat good news as this will make some folks drop off the list. The spec I would like is probably around 130 to 140K if your video here is close.
Agreed. Same here.
That is OUTSTANDING! About $110K optioned the way I'd like...
Heck yeah!
The width is like 3"+ to except the wider rear wheels and more air induction on the C8 from what I'm grabbing.
I have been telling the naysayers it will be between 85k to less than 90k. HPO nailed this.
I’ve been right there with ya since the beginning!!
Props for stating the price at 1:18 instead of mumbling for 5 mins and revealing it at 10 mins like other youtubers
You betcha!
2 dealers said the same exact number?! Interesting but could it just be a coincidence since GM still haven't announce the pricing yet. And Criswell's Mike who always been pretty accurate on predicting things, said GM probably will announce the pricing around Spring of '22. (Not really a prediction but based on his previous experiences with GM's announcements I guess) Would be awesome if a forum or other youtuber can also confirm this. People need pricing to move onto what trim/options they need next and prepare accordingly!!!
Yea, people are just guessing as usual. No one even has allocations but a very select few around the country and they don't want to lose that first allocations ability, so they aren't going to tell anyone. But is good guess probably close. My bet is 140K to 160K Loaded Z07, all visible carbon fiber, all the bells and whistles. But, soon as they allow actual allocations no one will know.
Hi Justin, I think your $87k for the 1LZ Coupe base price is very close here, but I'm hearing it will be slightly higher here at $90k (for GM marketing reasons = $89,999), but not more than $90k for sure here - I totally agree with you on that max cap-number..! :-)
100%. I am hearing 87k but with inflation I am thinking 89,999 myself.
The difference between this Z06 and other generations is that the C8 Z06 is going to have an exclusive engine… so how can we predict prices without knowing how much It costs Chevrolet to make
Any word on how many 2023 Z06s can be built?
If total production is 28,000 like the last few years, I doubt more than 5,000 Z06s CAN be built in 2023.
Your thoughts Justin?
HYPE! LETS GO!!
That's a good price but of course we know most of us add 15-20k in options as I just picked up my C8 coupe Z51, 3lt fully loaded with $3k paint options and priced for almost $94k. Paid MRSP, but my dealer did say they will probably add at least 25k markup for their Z06 orders so I expect that most will pay in the vicinity of 125-150k to get this car, plus for some a 2-3 year wait. Anyway thanks for the update, Justin. Appreciate your great videos!
You need to find a better dealership.
I’m on the list and I’m going all out with every options available
Same!
Yes $87K is a great starting price point!
Agreed!
Really not to bad Justin! Now to get one,,I called Klick Lewis Chevrolet, they put me on the list for 2023 Z06 so they said 🤔.
They are calling people in order of them being added to the list once they know allocations.
And i’m also hearing the waiting list will be really long...like delivery 2 years after production starts. And now with shipping and production delays with everything because of COVID/Vacs...who knows
This car at that price tag is an absolute steal.
Agreed.
With companies, even small like ours (we specialize in Honda Jseries V6 engine performance) they will have a pricing structure based off their capabilities, supplies etc. That structure will usually have levels, such as base, Z06 Etc. It's not hard to estimate pricing especially with the larger companies that have a long lineage to apply your math to and estimate their pricing
This is the best sounding Z06 ever!
I hope the C8 market is still crazy by the time we can get one of these. Great video Justin.
Thank you!
Why? With it being crazy, that just means it's harder for people to get and we have to deal with insane markups. F that.
We are hoping not to take a loss on our C8 we haven’t been delivered yet. I agree, the mark ups are crazy.
What a weird request...the market is crazy due to production issues. You won’t own a Z06 for 5 years if things continue like this.
@@TroutButter probably so he can sell his C8 to pay for his msrp Z06. Which is what I will do if I decide to keep the Z and not sell it. I'm still on the fence about keeping my C8
My 2007 Z06 is on the battery tender for the fowl months here in Ohio and the title is in the bank and I'll just leave it that way. Now I will grant you all of the new gizmos make the C8 something any normal Vette guy would want, but using the right foot in third with a 4.10 gear in the back, come on spring!
I think your pretty close Justin.
But I think the 2LZ price will be higher and pretty close to c8 stingray. In C7 2LT didn't include a lot of the things it does in C8. Also im Not sure on front lift included on all Z06 cars I've seen 2 videos where a GM rep says it's worth the extra cost to add the lift because of the splitters, one was Lenos and I can't remember the other, but I hope your right bro... I think (and hope) your right on the CF wheels I've seen carbon revolution have adds for a set for Porsche for like 12k so I think by time you deduct out cost of standard wheels you would have got and get the mass produced discount 9,999.00 sounds good to me.
Ps how's the weather outside, never mind I already know since I live about 20 min away haha ot sucks...
Nice video man!
You can get a $90k 2022 ZL1 Camaro and send it to Texas Hennessy to add the Exorcist packaged for an additional $50k and have 1000HP and still go 0-60 in approximately 2 seconds just like this Z06 Corvette and that puts you at $114,000! That’s what I’m going to do if I just can’t get lucky enough to find a 2023 Z06 Convertible with the Z07 package 😩
Bomnin Chevrolet in Miami just got one in with the carbon fiber options including the wheels / yellow stitching for 89,995 msrp. It is the coupe model though. Z07 options will run about 10k. I can’t see it being over 110-115k
Though I think the 89,995 is legit, No one has officially released the pricing yet. Z07 + 3LZ interior + carbon fiber options and wheels will likely be over 140k.
My local dealership hasn’t confirmed any prices. They did tell me that they are going to charge a $40,000 premium 😲. I told them “No thanks”
With a lot of dealerships not being honest & charging over msrp honestly I would just wait for the Zora model with that price.
You have to be joking, if there is a Zora it will be next to unobtainable and will most likely go to the highest bidder. That car will be over 200K for sure.
Who's to say that there won't be high markups on the Zora as well.
@@deanosborn3464 by the time the Zora is released the chip shortages & inflation would have been adjusted
@@pro5.019 Switch out Zora in your comment with Z06 you might see some similarities
@@craviins9056 So you think the Z06 will be unobtainable and cost 200k, yet you think you will get a Zora at a cheaper price lol. Anyone who is crying about dealer markups and not being able to get a Z06 for 3 to 4 years should have planned ahead. I put down a deposit at 2 of the highest volume dealers in my area over a year and a half ago, position #5 and #8. I don't think I will have a problem getting a car as I planned ahead, I'm sure many other did the same you snooze you lose.
I'm hearing two different engines available for the 2023 Corvette a 5.5 ltr. and a 6.3 ltr.Which sounds like a stroked out 327 and a 350 cubic inch to me.What Do You Think?
I guess what I’m trying to say is I went on the configurator and built a 2022 stingray and when I was done it was $85,000 I really find it hard to believe that The base price of a Z06 is going to be 87. My friend that is higher than a car salesman two months ago told me that he would not be surprised if the car was in the six-figure area for BaseThat’s all he would say now I can see why it would be in a six-figure area because it’s totally different. If you had two cars sitting in front of you one was $85,000 at 490 horse and one was $87,000 at 670 horsepower which car are you going to buy I know which one I’m gonna buy.!
87 grand before pos dealer markups i live in VA and am a local delivery driver and recently saw a used non convertible not totally optioned c8 with a sticker of 111,000 i told them im extremely interested in purchasing one of these asap but after that quote i quote told them "have yall bumped yalls head it's used and double the factory's msrp" and this was less than 2 weeks before the reveal of the z06 what gm clearly wanted to make available for most of Americans the dealers are taking advantage of the excitement and demand mostly because of the amazing base price given to the consumer and greedy dealers wanting to get fat on people's dreams and desires bet if i had one and sold it a year later to a dealer i wouldn't get anywhere near that as an offer hope they are stuck with it as a lot ornament until they come to their senses
Nicely optioned,this car will be $120,000-$140,000 for the average joe..That being said if the expected aluminum/magnesium supply chain problem hits as expected early next year you can add another 10-15% to those numbers👍🏼
Justin, I started a thread on mecf and cf with the top 100 dealers and who is and isn't msrp. It's titled "dealer reservation Master list" I have information on 25 dealers so far. This is mainly to help people find an msrp dealer that is still taking reservations.
Sweet! I'll check it out!
Mecf cf ? Want to find a dealership not marking up but don't know how to find your thread can you please help? Thx
Well done HPO , Thank you !
Thank YOU!
I like the all wheel drive on the dyno
It's going to be more like $122,000 for the base ZO6 with the mark up charges and if anyone can find a Chevrolet dealership willing to sell the ZO6 at msrp it's going to take research and even then if you find that dealership they probably couldn't fill your order due to being overwhelmed for orders and limited allocations.
Everyone with early allocations is going to want all that carbon fiber stuff and Z07 package. I guarantee you that stuff winds up on constraint. Just like the ground effects when stingray came out
Yup. I am thinking the same thing. This will definitely affect what I chose on the car.
I want the Z07 options. I’ve had money down and waiting for over a year now.
While u r talking colors,what whud it cost to get a previous year color as a request.ie Daytona Sunset,War Bonnett Yellow.....
I had used the C7 online design module (thanks for that link) to build a convertible Z06 w/ Z07 pkg, price $120K, so I have set aside $150K for my HTC Z06.
Drake spends a million in a strip club……to put crazy expenses in perspective - not a bad deal $150k and u get a monster car. What does Drake have to show after staring at naked ho’s and dropping a million? Therefore - Drake is an idiot!
$87k is an insane steal for that man. I cant wait to get mine.
Agreed!
Wow...a lot of value here. The one American sports car I would be proud to drive.
No way gm is going to give away a $2300 option E60 lift with the z06 for free. Wasn’t an option on c7 so it’s not included in your delta btwn c7 & c8.
By the way, this is easily the best pricing vid of all the famous Corvette Internet presenters. $130 K will shorten the list of those who can buy the car. However, that in no way will mean a short list. The problem is, when you have both supply and demand factors, that makes the price rise and it makes it ever more difficult for dealers to stick to anything close to the list price. AF
It is not difficult for a dealer to stick or MSRP many did and do with the C8 and many will with the Z06. (Yes there are also many who will try price goug) unless you are talking about their greed gland kicking into overdrive..
That's like117 k$ 🇨🇦 for a bass one with out taxes here! I saw one pre ordered at170k🇨🇦 here. There's not to many, plus there all pre ordered!
Great production content! Thank you.
Thank YOU!
Quick pricing note. Looking at the sticker of my ZO6 zo7 car there is an extra $2,995 fee just for carbon flash ground effects in addition to the $7995 z07
Yup. I don't know why I said they were included, I noted it was 3,995 for the exposed carbon and meant to say 2,995 for the carbon flash.
@@HorsePowerObsessed they're kind of sneaky because basically for the C7 the z07 package is really 11 Grand minimum LOL
Yea they should give us the stock rims and stuff if we are paying full price for the upgrade
Exactly what I expected, great deal @ MSRP! I’ll have mine maxed out please!
$87K for a base Z06 is fine! I'm on a list. I don't think a convertible Z06 makes sense, to me! Does it make sense to not have the Z07 package on a Z06? DAMN! (I don't race!) 2LT, front lift. I'm not interested in GM crap carbon fiber wheels for sure. Great info! Thanks a a lot.
think you are spot on with the CF wheel price of 10k, also prob wont be able to option CF roof with the HTC as depicted. nevertheless good stuff.
Money does buy happiness…🤗
If you are not on a list right now,you are 5 years out best case at almost all dealerships. Ciocca, MM, and Criswell all sell at MSRP, but there lists are already 5+ years sold out. They probably make up 40% of all Z06 sales. So for many it’ll be buying a 2nd hand Z06 with even higher markups than people think at least early on. But the ERay will come along and many will ‘settle’ for that, and I think even some Z06 people on a current list will switch to it. Especially if the ERay has power numbers higher than the base car, but looks just like a Z06.
After I add having mine customized with solid gold wheel's and a wet gold wrap I'm looking at at close to $150,000. Not bad.
For reference, the biggest difference between the Shelby GT350 and GT350R is the carbon fiber wheels and the difference in price between the two is $15,000. Given the other very minor differences like X pipe delete and rear seat delete, it is widely accepted that the wheels alone are $13,000.
Given that, I think your 10k estimate is really low. I'd believe the 20k and if you wanted to get conservative, I'd guess 15.
Wait and see how lt6 holds up before you grab one. Solid valvetrain and never an adjustment is hard to fathom. 8600rpm will suffer down low a bit though.
That's pocket change for me 😜 I'll take 3 please
Absolutely gorgeous car.
87k is insane and pretty attainable if you got something going for yourself. Unfortunately the dealers will ruin this by making this car sell around 150k after mark up, crazy shit.
Agreed on both levels.
I'll believe that when I see it. Because if that was the case, then why not talk about it during the reveal? That's a GREAT starting price for the C8 Z06; why hide it? Maybe because GM is expecting dealers to mark it up and didn't want to upset customers after the fact?
My guess is still $95-$99k - as close to $100k without going over to take advantage of the hype and changes due to ME setup. I hope I'm wrong for those of you interested in buying one. I'm going to wait out until the ZR1 as I had a feeling this Z06 isn't what I wanted and moved on from Corvette for the time being.
@Live from the boot Okay - that I don't remember as I thought when the C8 Stingray was first revealed it had everything mentioned that the C8 Z06 was missing?
I’m with you on this. I don’t see this car being anywhere under 90k. Development costs and other expenses are a lot higher when changing from the stingray to the ZO6 in the C8 generation compared to the C7
You also need to consider inflation. Six months is a long time in this kind of market/economy.
To everyone - all I am saying is if the price is good, then why hold it back? There’s no benefit in holding the information at this point as supposedly enough people are already in line to reserve it out for years apparently.
My guess is the Z06 will start at just under $100k, average builds be in the $115k, and max build say $140k all before mark ups.
Definitely not a range I would pay for a Z06, but good hunting for those wanting to spend that. I just want to know the info like everyone else.
So for the price of a base model 911 you can get a car the keeps up with a super car. Nice!!!
GM is supposed to be bringing back the option to help build your own engine and have your name on the placard. How much would you expect this to be? Also, how long is building the engine expected to take?
The cost for the C7 Z06 and the C7 ZR1 was 5,000.00. Odds are good, it will be the same cost here as well.
There will be no Corvette left of the sales at this price Corvette Z06 Z07 Everyone will buy it🏁 will break sales records worldwide🌋🚀😘🎆
But GM decided to end the rear engine model already and is putting them back in the front. So what's the point?
Where did you read that?
Not letting me post a link
I'll take the grey Z06,glass Top, carbon ceramic brakes, aluminum wheels, low rear spoiler. Get it ready, & I'll take it. I do alot of city ,& interstate driving so, hopefully Under the radar, & very little (if @ all) damage. Set it up, Joe.🇺🇸
When the zr1 drops its gonna cost close to 200k if you want to be the 1st customers to get a instant american classic i see the price sky rocketing because it will probably be gm's last ice muscle car before converting to the ev's
Good luck getting one it s going to be a long wait. I ll keep my 2022 Zl1 until the Zr1 is available.
Seen quite a few c8. They don't seem exclusive anymore, it's gonna need a refresh soon.
The pricing is reasonable. How many will GM build for 3023? I have heard that dealerships are taking deposits for more cars than will be allotted to each dealer and beyond the number of cars that will be built. The customers r trust do not get a 3023 will be refunded. Will they be first in line fir the 2024?
First of all thank you for your informative content. I had also been previously told by a dealer that this was starting price. That is definitely a lot of car for the price. Thousands under any Porsche and a lot more thousands than that for a Ferrari or Lambo.
You’re very welcome! Thank you!!
I am thinking the same on pricing, $90K to start and $150s fully loaded. Its basically the same price as a 2011 Ferrari 458.
Great info! Time to get a second job😂🤣😂gotta max mine out🏎💨💨💨
I feel the same way!
What do you think about the carbon ceramic brakes? How much would it be?
Standalone without the Z07 package? Probably 6k to 8k.