Criminally underrated video. Really wonderful and thorough explanation of the car. I think with your sense of humour you could make your own great repair tutorials. Keep it up!
Great video. I have driven my 2007LR3 2.7D since 2009. Bought it with 34k km on the clock. Just passed 342k km. It needs maintenance, budget 1200 euros per year and ur fine. Otherwise it's a brilliant all round go anywhere vehicle. Super capable. Keep the vids coming.
Wow, averaging 25k km per year, I will need an other 5 years to get there. But I´ll do my best to get this done. Thanks for your feedback - it is very much appreciated.
First of all congratulations for the video. A few years ago I had a Discovery 2 V8. It was a dream to have one here in Brazil. I took many scares with the electrical part and few with the mechanics. But I miss Disco2. Here in Brazil, there are many UA-camrs, who say they specialize in automotive matters, they have never owned a Land Rover in their lives but they criticize, speak badly and badly say Discovery 3, Range Rovers and Freelanders. Disco3 being the critical champion! They don't understand the Land Rover "legend". Ok, here too the prices at the dealerships make anyone bankrupt, but we can find parts via the Internet easily. You have to know how to dig! Finally, your video made me rekindle the old passion for Disco3. I'm already dating several in the classifieds on the web. I've had Cherokee, Explorer, Dakota (all V8), Subaru, but Discovery has no equal. A big hug and thanks for sharing!
Hey that is so great. And yes if you dig deep you'll find what you need. Hope you get a great Discovery 3. I have several happy Discovery 3 owners / subscribers out of Brazil. 😀👍🙋♀️Vera
Hi Christian and Vera, I was about to abandon my 2006 Disco 3 because of dreaded error P22090 (rail pressure too low and limp home mode). Sunk 3000 euros into a shop for diagnosing the problem and replacing the in-tank fuel pump and basically checking everything on the low-pressure side. I was not ready to put in another suggested 4k for a high pressure fuel pump (HPFP). So I wanted to give up. That’s when I stumbled over this video. It completely changed my world. After 6 happy years, I knew already several of those weak points you mention. Well, with my newly-found “Innere Einstellung” I decided to give it a go. Believe it or not, I ordered a HPFP (450 euros refurbished, looking like new), and replaced mine. Took me two days all in all. The ECM is happy to get 158MPa fuel pressure again! Car runs like new! THANK YOU. (I have the HPFP type 5WS40157, which is a little bigger than newer Discos have I think, from 2007 onwards. I could barely get it out. A bit of a problem is that the belt case can’t be removed, because it is held by the cam shaft wheel, so I had to force it a bit. But it worked. If you need help with this one sometimes, give me a shout :) (Funny fact: I put the old belt back in, because the new one didn’t arrive in time, and I decided that changing it later is no big deal at all, anymore. :-)
😃👍 That is so great. Those kind of comments make it all worth the effort. Thank you. Fabian has had the same problems (I don't know if you have seen our last couple of videos where we worked on Fabians Discovery). He had the same problems, but we have been avoiding changing the HPFP. But since he wants to travel through Mongolia with this car, we are going to change the HPFP anyways, but haven't found a new one yet ( or appearantly haven't looked hard enough)😉 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Once I endoscopically found the HPFP’s number plate, it became much easier to find a replacement. Since you already ruled out injector leakage, there are exactly four problems left than could cause P2290: 1) rail pressure sensor (sits in the diverting rail and can be replaced individually, about 15€ the cheapest ones); 2) the pump itself which doesn’t create enough pressure; 3) malfunctioning VCV (integrated part of the pump, and usually replaced/tested with it); 4) malfunctioning PCV (also integrated part of the pump, and usually replaced/tested with it). I probably wouldn’t bother changing the rail pressure sensor, when it delivers plausible values but just the maximum pressure is limited. When idling, it reads 22MPa (220bar) in my case. My old pump topped out at about 135MPa, but it should do 160.
Great video...well done! I appreciate how you put work into your vehicle to keep it going instead of just selling it and buying something else. People don’t understand how just simple maintenance can extend the life of a vehicle. I love the LR3 and have always wanted one. I can’t break away from my Land Cruiser though. I’ll just continue to admire them from afar.
Thanks for the trip! I felt I was in your Land Rover all this time. I Own a Disco One and a 2005 Gasoline Discovery 3 or LR3 here in the USA. Thanks again from El Paso, Texas USA.
Brilliant video, I am a Disco 2 owner because I feared the Disco 3. You've taken that fear away through the straightforward way you have described the typical problems. Prima!!
Once you have had a good experience when owning a Landy you will always be in love with the brand. I currently have a 1992 Defender and a 2012 Disco 4 and both have their own personality. I love them and same as you, I realise that regular preventative maintenance is the secret to happy Land Rovering, old and newer models alike. Where we live is a dry part of Australia so rust is not a problem either, both my cars are rust free. I wish you many more years of happy Land Rover ownership. PS. Try a Disco 4 next car, all those D3 problems have been resolved
@@Coordinator61 Yes, and I know there are a lot of people that get confused between their lack of maintenance and unreliability. A bad worker always blames his tools!
„Landrover stay in town“ - that’s a good one - I love it. Maybe I’ll make a bumper sticker for mine: „I need to stay in town“ (with an unhappy looking LR3 cartoon).
@@Coordinator61 and yet Series, Defender, 101FC served the British Army all over the world, inc Aus, and even in the ocean (landing craft beach assault)
Were neighbours! Another masterpiece may I say. It felt like I was being chauffer driven through the beautiful mountainess village's of beautiful Germany in my own car. I use Mandy every day. I teach freelance English here in The Czech republic, so a lot of driving and all you listed is totally true and has been repaired or maybe fixed including a new air pump. The first one failed after a year. The new one is a Bosch. I'm sure you will be pleased to hear. So the German one should be far better than the Chinese hair dryer. I must confess that I couldn't possibly do what you do. I wouldn't know where to start. I use a Czech mechanic who I visit every year. My Mandy 3k automatic LR3 full leather. still use the old satnav. missing the toe bar and some tools. Buckingham blue and almost as old as I am. You and Vera are simply genius. Thank you.
I put up with all the BS from my 2006 LR3 V8 HSE because it looks so cool & rides so nice & is so off-road capable. It still looks contemporary & better than 90% of SUV's out on the road.
I hear you on cheap aftermarket lower arms. Here in the UK my LR4 failed its MoT test yet with lower arms and bushes after only 4 years and just 22k miles. Just had new original parts fitted and now the drive is super. Thanks guys.
Thank you for giving us a whole new perspective to owning our LR3. We had nearly every part replaced once if not twice but I always looked at it the wrong way. I should come round to your way of thinking and look forward for the next time the LR3 breaks down and leaves us stranded. The power of positive thinking turns this lemon of a car into a lifelong project how to become a better person, thank you both👍
I have drove almost all suv's but the pleasure that I ha e got driving my old lr3 was not even with brand new suv's. With all its draw back I just love it.
I’m so glad that at last there are some people shows the disco3 the respect that it earns. I have a 2007 at 250.000km on clock. I’m in love with mine. I’m an ınterior architect & designer, i know what this car means and how it’s designed. Everybody must be proud of their Discovery 3-4. At last the days of the respect on Disco 3 has begun. A little of people had understand the capabilities of this vehicle. Very great video, thanks for all the information that you’ve given. King regards
The D3 (and D4) is a very timeless design I think. People who are not as much into cars allways think that my car is nearly new when I take them for a ride. And then they are stunned when I let them know that it is over 14 years old. Thanks for your feedback and please look for my next video.
Greetings from Romania and congrats on your video! 3 years into our 2005 D3 so far, in which we put >70k km (just passed 180k on the clock), and we love it. We also wish to keep it forever :D
Really enjoying your videos. Brings back many memories of working on my D3 that I bought new in May 2005 and still own at 192000 miles. In the early days the Disco3 Forum knew more about the car than the dealers. 17 years later I am still doing my own maintenance.
Just watching this video and thinking I know this voice. See your face in the workshop. Hey Christian. Good to see you. Such a small world. Good to see you driving around the Odenwald. Thought of buying a LR4 a lot of times but we still keep our old and very reliable Landcruiser 105. Greetings from Perth.
'I wonder if we get more than 50 clicks on this video' As of today: 69,930 views. Well done, really interesting and entertaining, so thoroughly deserved success. As ever, best wishes from the UK
Super video, very informative and you are both well spoken. I would love to have a discovery 3 or 4 but watching your video I realise I don't have the skill, tools, knowledge or money to maintain it like you have. Was lovely to see your country it's very picturesque , I miss travelling in Europe this summer. Many thanks from Northern Ireland :)
What an excellent video! I just bought a 2009 LR3 with the hopes of living out my dream hobby (performing my own maintenance on my own vehicle) and this video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Hi Christain. I've just discovered your channel. You have almost the same philosophy regarding the D3 as I do. I've had mine for nearly 7 years and now it has 310,000km , 240,000km of those are mine, so I've encounted most of the faults. Most definitely stay away from LR. They are easy to fix. I have some comments on your points. All years of 2.7 oil pumps are suspect until the revised version is fitted. Only fit a FoMoCo pump. Body off is not that bad for a shop with a 2 post lift. The turbo actuator doesn't stick if the car is well driven up to the red line regularly. Service the EPB park brake annually, it will never fail. Use an IID tool or similar tool with Car Configuration File editing facility to turn off the auto apply of the EPB, you can even set a manual gearbox car to auto release the EPB. Service your air compressor now, before the light comes on. The air drier suffers with cracking and dessicant gel caking causing a blockage. I see you've rust proofed the air tank. Wet countries suffer from rust underneath, and your car is suffering like UK cars do. The rear timing belt is easier on a LHD like yours as there is no need to take the battery out to get hand room like on a RHD car. I see you've refurbed your rear wheel bearings, with a hammer. Good work. You must be heavy on the brakes, I get nearly 100,000km out of my pads. I don't agree with your assessment of the manual gerabox. Auto for me, always, it matches the car very well. I run a facebook group dedicated to the technical aspaects of the L319 Discoverys. Https://facebook.com/groups/1667428720239548/?ref=share I think your vidoes are great, you're a natural. Keep on Discovering and I hope to meet you on the road somewhere.
Thanks for your comments. I never thought of doing any preventative maintenance on my air compressor. This is a awesome hint. I will do some research and then take it appart. It sure was never open before. Is the air dryer a replacement part? I never opened the EPB either. It did start to grind just recently but recovered after a few attempts. So I ordert the replacement parts kit from Britpart. This is now on my bucket list to do. Should have maintained this better as you said. Parts where 130€. My disk brakes now are ok and have about 50k. I guess I had cheap parts or pads before. Still, no chance that they will last 100k. We live in a hilly area with many curves. Good hint with the turbo link. Let´s me worry less about it. I miss an automatic transmission too sometimes...
I have to add: The rear wheel bearing actually came apart when installing it with a hammer. I know this now and I did not feel good at this time. Hope the seal is working. This was my first push-in Wheel bearing ever. Made me think about getting a press. I am not a car mechanic but my car will not get someone else’s hands on it.
I would like to know who and why the haters are giving the thumbs down. It is so easy to just stop watching a video and click on another one, so why the thumbs down??? I love these videos and own a Jeep. Someday I will look at Discovery models to purchase as our daily driver.
@@Vera_and_Christian oh the LR guys are going to be jealous when they see it. We have a big group going camping this weekend. They are all Disco 1 and series ii owners. None of the LR3’s could make the trip this time.
Andrew FitzMaurice hows that going for you. I just can't get the thought of an LR3 out of my head. But it's just idk if I can afford the standard maintenance.
@@chrisconstantino9827 I use a local Land Rover specialist and it does make a massive difference in the cost of running mine. A standard service would be around £300, but I usually need, or ask for something extra to be done, such as changing the gearbox oil as an example, servicing the electric handbrake etc. So my services are usually around £500 with extra work/repairs. Over the past couple of years all of the suspension arms have been changed. In terms of failures I have needed a new power steering rack (around £300 I think), new air compressor (£4-500 roughly), complete new electronic handbrake (£1,000) that has been the one item that has really annoyed me, one the cost of it and two I have been told it isn’t a service item, so since being replaced I now specifically request it is serviced annually. It does worry me at times something major will go wrong, as there have been a few incidents of crank failure on the 3.0 diesels, but with mine being a 2010 on around 120,000 miles it would probably be scrapped. If you are looking at the 2.7 diesel Discovery 3, there is an issue with the bracket failing that holds the water pump, there is an updated part you can fit, it does only apply to certain model years so worth checking. Despite painting a grim picture of costs and faults, I absolutely love my Discovery, it just makes me feel as though I am in something special and something I have never felt before in any of my other cars.
@@andrewfitzmaurice7843 thank you for all of that. I really appreciate it. I live in the states so I've been looking at the naturally aspirated v8 since there's a bit more power/torque than the v6. Any specific forums you go on?
@@chrisconstantino9827 I would certainly love a V8, but the fuel costs in the UK would be horrendous!! Whilst it is a mainly a UK forum (there is a good few US members as well and other LR3 V8 owners), disco3 dot com is fantastic with some incredibly helpful and knowledgeable members so definitely take a look.
Yep - I fixed my compressor air dryer cap with an aluminum one from eBay for $70 - Independent wanted $2800 to put a new AMK air compressor in. That was like 4-5 years ago and my compressor still working fine. Its a known fault the air dryer cap splits down the mold line right through middle. Super easy to fix and diagnose with some soapy water. Most issues with D3 are common manufacturing faults and well documented and easy to fix.
Yes you are right, that is why we are not afraid of anything the car throws at us. We'll just deal with it as it comes. The good thing is that you definitely know it's coming sooner or later. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi , the car makes a great diner for your family . An honest report on replacement parts and the fun you have had on your adventures . Take care and thanks for your video😉👍
Been watching you guys now for a couple of months now and have to say have inspired me & my wife to get a discovery 3 after thinking about getting one for years. The car is to take us on our journey from the UK to Portugal where we are going to live so it, hopefully this will be our long term car. I don't mind doing things on cars and the way you show how you do your repairs is great!! So we'll keep watching and learning from you. Keep up the good video's!!
Thank you for your efforts, very enjoyable. I have a 2007 HSE, Owning a Land Rover is not an entirely practical choice but more a state of mind (good or bad!) and for those who do not subscribe to that, they will always see the negatives and there are plenty. But it's a Land Rover!
Fabulous video! If I was 1/100th as capable as you to perform my own repairs, then I might consider purchasing one of those things. As it stands, you have absolutely convinced me beyond any shadow of a doubt that I should NEVER become an owner of any LandRover, period! I live in the US (Michigan), and I have owned several Jaguar sportscars, two of which we still have! Those have had their issues from time-to-time, but nothing like what you have experienced with your "Landy". Think I'll keep my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4 Diesel, with Off-Road Adventure II Package, Air Suspension, and multiple aftermarket bash plates and rock sliders, which I frequently take off road in some pretty nasty stuff. Again, GREAT Video! I highly recommend it to anyone considering the purchase of a used Land Rover LR3 (or any other model for that matter)!
I never changed the brake pad brand or model on my D4 from the standard, but after I sold my D4, everyone I spoke to recommended EBC Greenstuff brake pads. No idea about them, but people get quite passionate about them.
This is so funny. I was thinking of asking for a discovery review, as after watching your videos I am thinking of getting a discovery so as to rest my 2002 Defender.
Thank you very much for your excellent videos. They are entertaining and educational. I lived in Spangdahlem Germany for 3 years and enjoyed your beautiful country. The two of you make great movies and you are both Rock Stars! I’m off to buy an LR3! You make it fun and exciting!
Thoroughly enjoyed watching your video, very entertaining, thank you. I was constantly finding myself nodding my head and laughing in agreement with your comments!! :-) I have a very similar UK spec 2006 manual Discovery now with 150k miles on the clock and have had many of the problems mentioned in the 10 years we have owned it (bought in 2010 with 56k). Like you, despite the issues we also still love our Disco 3 and are reluctant to part with it. It is an amazing and capable all purpose vehicle but just needs regular maintenance and attention (and perhaps a second car to use when it breaks down)! Keep posting please, you are an inspiration to us sometimes beleaguered Discovery owners!!
Found this video today and subscibed immediate. Thanks for this one. After more than 20 years of driving Discovery 1 and 2 we're thinking of buying a Discovery 3. It's kind of reassuring this car will brake down as often as our previous Discoveries. I was a bit worried about the costs of the repairs and how much you can do yourself on a car stuffed with electronics. I will be looking for one in Germany because here in the Netherlands you won't find one with less than 250.000 km on the clock.
👍😃Welcome to the channel. I really hope you find a good Disco 3 here in Germany. They are slowly getting old and finding one with less than 180000 is becoming a challenge. 🙋♀️ Vera
I will do likewise assuming my local parts dealer can get the part here. Love your videos, thank you for investing your time and considera🎉produce such entertaining, informative and useful videos on my favourite vehicle.
really fun video, thank you. i have 2007 v6 petrol and it goes great, i have had a couple of issues you mentioned but i repair myself and it is fun. living in Australia i go off road often and it does a great job. every so often i think of upgrading but it goes too well still to do this. the air springs are very easy to change, the air valves are also easy to change or replace o-rings on, the compressor needs the dryer module changing so get that done, its a very simple job...
Well from Johannesburg South Africa another click (so you should have more than 55 hehe), found your experiences very interesting, amusing & enjoyable. Thank You, hope you still enjoying your Discovery, they are amazing. Go well, happy driving
Stuart Vorster, I think many +10 year old cars are exported from Germany to South Africa. Dealers need to grand a warranty by law here in Germany when selling used cars and this is the reason why they sometimes choose to sell them to exporters because this exempts them from warranty obligations. A 10 year old car driven only on German roads is in the same condition as a 2 year old car from Michigan. There is just no harsh weather or bad roads here. I think I have a business trip coming up in September going to Uitenhage. May be delayed for obvious reasons.... Hope this will work out anyhow. Me in S.A.!
Really enjoyed that! I have a similar car, Discovery 3, silver, manual. I've bought it with 1000 miles in 2006 on it and it's just turned 170000 miles, so around 273k km. I've done a lot of work myself, but I have a local independent landrover specialist who did the clutch for me that started slipping at around 140k miles. I can concur, it eats brakes..possibly because it's a manual...but ecen brake discs and calipers is a easy job. I had to upgrade by jack, axle stands and torque wrench, as everything is bigger, heavier and needs tightening up tighter on a landrover. I've replaced the front suspension arms, still running the original rears! repaired the suspension pump once, replaced it with an upgraded item the next time, so I've seen most of what you have seen..but nothing has been too bad and parts are not expensive....so if I'd have to replace it, I'd have another! Agree, really like the manual gearbox.
I used to buy cheap spares and I stopped doing so about 2 years ago. Should have bought high quality spares right away - they are good priced, just like you wrote. Thanks for your feedback.
Excellent review of common maintenance and repairs needed, thank you. You live in a beautiful area with some pretty sketchy narrow passing places, well done! Glad you worked out the differences between doing repairs by touch not taste!
Great to see someone who appreciates a Disco 3 and what they really are.My one has done 400000 klm (my 2005) and are just starting to do replacement parts as you describe for the second time .Like you i do all my own repairs and have a Gap iid tool which has been the best part i have bought Hahaha. These are fantastic vehicles and will own mine forever i think LOL. They have minor fails as i see it ,but that's general wear and tear of any vehicle.Mechanically it has been fail safe and very reliable.I have never replaced my oil pump although i purchased mine at 120000 klm so may have been done already,but is still running the original motor and drive line and runs like a sewing Machine. Not bad for a 15 yo vehicle. Thank you for posting this vid Christian !
400T km! My salute & respect! We are only half way then… Just like you, we plan to drive our LR3 forever. Unfortunately, the German government and a great part of the population will make this goal more and more difficult. Diesels are banned in some cities over here in Germany.
@@Vera_and_Christian Oh thats a damn shame.Can't get enough diesels here in Australia.Most people are complaining the new Defender will not have a Diesel . You and your family take care there Christian
Nice video!! I bought my LR3/D3 V8 for about $1800 with 173k miles 2½ years ago. Today the odometer show 211k miles and counting since this is my all purpose vehicle, and I enjoyed every mile 👍👍
@@jordanpierce1366 Hi there, I sold my LR3 with 278k miles and running strong with no mayor problems at that time. Under my ownership I replaced the original front suspension that came with the vehicle, the thermostat and the radiator, the part I replaced the most was the PCV (3 times), a friend of mine solved that problem adapting a catch can.
I’m really enjoying your channel! I’m in the UK and probably the greatest advocate of the Discovery/LR4, having had to replace only 3 door locks (£150 each) in 7.5 years and 140,000 miles. Otherwise just routine servicing. Everything works, including TVs, economy is OK at 28.5mpg and it just goes. It has the ZF 8speed box with the 3litre diesel. Touch wood the car has been the best 4x4 I’ve ever owned but it is also the best family car, bike carrier, people mover, van and posh event car, it is a great motorway cruiser and always has extra stowage space somewhere even when you think it’s full. It doesn’t eat tyres like some cars I’ve had and has a real spare, not a space saver, can of foam or run flats. If you advertised this car with that age and those miles I’d probably pass but that would be a mistake. I’m lucky in that I use an approved specialist who has dozens of these on their books, and some at the 300,000 mile mark. The way mine feels today, still squeak and rattle free, that mileage seems realistic. The worst 4x4s I’ve owned over the last 22 years are ones that you’d never guess, and the absolute worst of the lot at only 20,000 miles would shock you. It broke down on day 1 and is a regular at the dealer who sold it to me. And part of the problem is the main dealers here for that brand don’t know the vehicle well enough to fix it properly. Years ago I did ask a 4x4 specialist before buying the Land Rover whether it was risky and their view was that on average all 4x4s are much the same over time. I’ve owned 8 other off readers and one SUV, and I think their assessment was about right.
Thank you Land Hopper. Agree with you. Most other SUVs have the same issues when getting old. Who buys a 250tk VW or Mercedes and expects a cheep trouble free ride? For some reason this is expected from a Discovery... Complaints about air suspension? Yes, this is not a issue in a JK or JL. 👍
I’m at 259,000 miles on my ‘06 LR3. Love it. I’d mention the expansion tank float gets saturated and stops floating, giving false “low coolant” messages. Replace the LCA bushings with poly bushings and you’ll never replace LCA’s again. Will change the feel of the car a bit. The valve cover gaskets can start to leak, but easy to replace. If you have idling issues, clean out the MAF butterfly valve with MAF cleaner. Only once have I had a parking brake issue, and I changed the pads. I hardly use the PB as it is so I’ve never had issues since. Address and air suspension leak downs ASAP. First do the test with the batt disconnected. This will help you isolate whether it is the valve blocks or airbags, or even the compressor.
When it is below freezing, my fuel gauge locks up and reads empty. No big deal as long as I know how much fuel is left approximately. But the computer shuts of the electric diesel heater (FBH) and the vehicle will not warm up sufficiently any more. That is the live of a LR3 owner. PB died last week in the alps... Will have a video of the repair soon I guess. Thanks for your feedback.
I suspect this video will, eventually, get an awful lot of views. Good useful information to anyone thinking about a Disco but is wary of the reputation.
We bought a Disco 2 TD5 as we do all our own repairs and live way out in the wilds. I do worry about the electronics and the TD6 cam belt/body off issues. We've fallen in love with the TD5 now as we live in a place with bad roads and we get real snow... the english equivalent of Siberia! The TD5 has been very reliable and we have only had recovery once in the 6 years we have owned her ❤️
i know it's been a year since you guys posted this amazing video, but i just have to thank you from the bottom of my heart, i'm portuguese and i'm thinking about buying one so thank you so much because you guys posted this great video and yes, I watched the video until the end
Seems like you are going to keep this one running forever! And why not? It's a pretty decent vehicle, and it looks like you have a lot of fun in it, as well as good times maintaining it.
Another very common failure in the LR3 is the cracking of the dash , here in the Middle East. Apparently JLR continued to market the LR3 even though they were fully aware of this issue, and there is no recall to replace their faulty part
Great video, I enjoyed listening and ticking off everything I had to do over the last 8 years, the only one I haven't had yet was a wheel bearing. In addition I've had to change the air compressor, front and rear diffs, starter motor, alternator, height sensors, gearbox, rear propshaft, injectors, glow plugs, alternator tension pulley. Sill love the Discovery though. Congrats on more than 50 views, I did smile when I heard you say that and then looked at current views, well deserved.
I never knew you could choose a registration number in Germany like in the UK, it's a good one. Someone near where I lived a while ago had a Defender with V14 MUD (via mud) which was also rather good
Many thanks for taking the time to produce your very informative and valuable story. I am considering upgrading from our Disco 2 to the Disco 3 so I really appreciate learning the ownership lessons from you. Best wishes from Aus.
hi i am also a discovery 3 owner here in the uk, i just wanted to say thsnk you so much for making these videos i spend a few hours a week watching and learning new things too, i completely agree with everything you said about the disco 3 i changed my oil pump to the newer type the stronger type and all belts too, i am on my second air compressor. and i also cleaned my front and midddle air blocks i had the body off in a shop for that witch was very costly like £850 plus the new belts and oil pump etc. yeah i agree with you on the fact that these trucks do need to be maintained all year round which in turn doesn't really give you many problems these discovery 3 are great vehicles when they work and i mean with out any faults but i would put it into 2 types of faults 1 beings actual problems that just turn up when they want and 2. just wear and tear on parts like my alternator died but it was 15 years old, hopefully some time next year i will be swapping all my air suspension shocks for springs conversion and still have all the off road terrain settings just because i feel the truck will out last the air suspension, plus we have had so many problems with ours. i also fitted a roof rack for when we go away camping we had about 600kg of stuff on our roof plus 2 adults and 4 children and not 1 problem we also took a spare air compressor with us because i new what the car is like. i do have a Instagram account with my discovery 3 pictures on there just message me if you wish to follow my story of my D3.. thank you again
Hello Rusty, what is your exact Instagram name? Ours is "Its LR Time". Thank you for writing your story to us. The LR3 is the most underestimated SUV with the widest span of lovers and haters. We will look at your Insta site.
Great videos, thanks for creating them. I too have had a love affair with my Disco 3 since 2009 (only 130000 km) and have been through most of the issues you describe but without the benefit of a workshop, the time and requisite skill to repair it myself. I’m now going through electrical and suspension issues again, likely a new alternator required and lower arms. I was ready to finally give up but, inspired by you, maybe I’ll give it one last slug of cash!
great video, thank you. It seems like a labour of love owning a D3. When you said "the wheel nuts rust, swell up and then the tool doesnt fit", you may have finally put me off buying one!
Yes, you need to be "dedicated" to drive this car - no doubt. I indeed bought 20 new wheel nuts on ebay at one time for 7€ each! But we love this car and there is nothing what will change this. But I would be crazy to recommend it to other people. I guess we always had high-maintenance cars and put up with many problems. My first car with 18 y was a 1988 Lancia Delta HF Turbo.
@@Vera_and_Christian Since I left my comment I might have been won over by the car. I'm used to higher maintenance cars, my every day car is a 35 year old BMW so I expect it to be an upgrade from that! What frustrates me is poor design, esspecially style over substance, and the wheel nuts are a sign of that. Thankfully I have not found many other issues like this in my research. Thanks for making your excellent videos.
You are welcome. Veras Freelander has BMW parts and it is ok. But I can imagine that a high end BMW is about the most complex setup available. I do like high end German cars and I get to drive them once in a while as company rentals. As a private person, I prefer older cars with less technology. Fanciest car I ever had was a 2001 A6 quattro. It was loaded and easily topped the 2006 LR3 in all Features. But we did not connect to it.
very good and interesting video. i dont have a discovery 3 but do have a 1998 defender and 1980 Series 3 but what you say about preventative maintenance is totally correct for all landrovers. look after them and you'll love them for years. I thought these discoveries would be very hard to work on but your video makes it look quite easy, they are getting quite cheap to buy in the UK too so i might be tempted!
Land Rovers, you either love them or you hate them. One things for sure, people who love them learn to maintain them and become very good mechanics, unlike owners of "ORDINARY" cars. I've owned a few, Series 2 Defender, Range Rover Classic, Discovery 1 and 2, and currently a slightly modified Range Rover P38 V8. The main thing is I enjoy doing the maintenance as well as the repairs. Good video, I really enjoyed it, Thank you. Sad to hear that only one track is drivable in Germany. Too much government control.
Glad to see some one making a video about liking the disco been thinking about one myself but get put off by people.I drive a Freelander and was told the same thing before I bought it I know its not a real Landrover but these days what is
What is written on the bonnet how many oval badges are on your car with Landrover on them ? I'm on my 2nd Freelander 2 . I did 65000 miles in the first one and I've done 20000 miles in my 2nd one and I have zero issues with either of them Like any car or mechanical machine , get them serviced regularly and look after them and they don't let you down If you think you don't have a real Landrover look on u-tube for the guy driving a freelander 2 in Australia and it will change your mind I've taken off road courses at Eastnor Castle in a Freelander and it went wherever a Defender went just slower
Great film, thank you Christian. I've had my 2005 2.7ltr TDV6 D3 10 years now and it has 138000 miles on the clock. It's caused me some problems over the years, but I love it and would hope to keep it until the end of my days. Many of the problems I've had have been the ones you mention, such as EGR valve, which I had blanked off rather than replace. It's OK to do that here in the UK on a car the age of mine. I'm fortunate to have a good LR independent specialist close by who has looked after mine for years, but recently I've been taking on the easier jobs myself and filming for my UA-cam channel. I also have a 60s classic car that I'm learning to do some of the easier jobs on. I look forward to watching more of your films.
I wish we could blank out the EGR here in Germany too. The EGR on the LR3 is really a joke anyhow and its there for the piece of mind at the best. Under regular driving conditions, on a plate 2006, the EGR really never actuates. It does the cleaning cycle and that is it and that is also why it fails. I never saw mine actuating. Not in the summer or in the winter. Well, we in Germany will have to all ride cargo e-bikes in the near future and we will know SUV´s only from youtube and news out of other coutries. Thanks for your feedback and enjoy the ride. My next video will be about fixing our Freelander. We actually have it longer than our Discovery and it has more miles on the clock too but it is not as much loved and this is why we invested quite a bit of work in order to show our appreciation for this car as well.
I love land rovers they’re design Is brilliant but I’m not a mechanic I can do the basic things but I typically couldn’t afford to drive one . Toyota or American vehicles are more realistic for me , I think the reason why I love them is because I took auto body and the work they put into the interior and the body work and off road capability is stellar .i really don’t understand why they don’t fix the common problems with Land Rover .
I like your philosophy in owning a car. Was just skipping through videos and wasn’t going to watch the whole thing but then I found myself at the end without skipping. I subscribed just for the Disco3.co.uk shout out. It would be nice if you linked the people or videos you are talking about in the video tho 👍🏼
We are so happy to receive this kind of feedback. I am a novice in making You Tube videos and there is a lot to learn. I will try to link the videos I talk about. It took me 30 min to film the video and 4h to cut and edit 😬. Thank you for your feedback 👍. I am User DIRT44 on Disco3.Uk. A very good source for information.
Your videos are just great! I think many people find them very helpfull, and amusing! I am also a Citroen man and follow your 2.7 experiences as the engines are fairly similar. I have a 2009 2.7 C6 with about 118.000 miles - 180,000 km. I am looking to buy a C6 for parts. If it is working o.k. would you need the basic engine? I like to drive around Europe and could probably even deliver it! Keep on Truckin"!.
Hi guys 👍🏻 Love your German accent explaining things in English about an English Land Rover 🤣 Great tips as I think most people would be put off purchasing such an expensive used motor!! But I really think what your showing is it’s not that bad for a bit of cheap luxury that’s simple to fix. So we’ll done you guys 👍🏻 Cheers Stevie 😎🏴
Well I hope you watch a couple of more clips. This car is so great, and it doesn't have to be a money pit with a little bit of dedication and ingenuity. One of our latest videos was a great example of what we try to do, maybe you want to watch it ua-cam.com/video/SeIk9dtPJIE/v-deo.html 🙋♀️ Vera
You know, there's a manual release catch on either side of the lower tailgate? No crow-bar or sledge hammer required! My top tip for parts, whether you do fix it yourself, or get someone else to do it is, if the thing turns, seals or is safety critical, use a genuine (or the very best OEM) part. Anything else, patterned parts are OK. The patterned parts are cheap, but generally don't last long - and you'll end up having to do the job again pretty soon. There are some really good repairs for these vehicles which are easy & low cost compared to getting a dealer to do them. Most independent repairers know how to do them, but youtube has videos on the majority if you want to DIY. Both Disco 3, 4 & L320 RRS are very underrated vehicles. The electronics is very reliable - but that's what most people worry about. Generally if there's a fault code or electrical problem, it's actually a mechanical part that's worn out - nothing to do with the computers. They are just the messenger!
Greetings from Ontario, Canada. Originally from the UK. Came across your videos as I am looking at buying a used LR3 or LR4. Love your video style and nice to see some of your countryside. I work with a guy who's family live in the German countryside too and it looks beautiful. I am so glad you do at least some of your videos in English. My German is non existent apart from a few words which is very embarrassing as your English is so good. Keep up the great work and if you have any good links you can recommend i would appreciate it. I already watched the guy who replaced his handbrake mechanism in the rain. Very entertaining. Danke and take care during this crazy time.
Hello Michael, thanks for your feedback. We traveled in Ontario quite a bit about 15 years ago and we loved it very much. Enjoy your time and forgive your LR3 when it’s in the mood.
You probably already know this, but you can open the lower rear hatch manually. There is a latch below the pin on the right side and above the pin on the left side. You can get your finger in there with the bottom hatch closed but it's easiest to see for the first time while the hatch is open.
Tolles Video! Das mit den Reifen kann ich gut nachvollziehen hatte die gleichen auf meinem Disco 3 die sind einfach furchtbar auf nasser Fahrbahn. Hab jetzt auf meinem Disco 4 die General Grabber AT3 drauf die sind bedeutend besser und leiser. Von den "Problemen" die ihr ansprecht kenn ich die meisten :-D. EGR neu, Querlenker neu und die Bremsen die schnell verscheißen durch das hohe Gewicht, bei der Automatikversion legt ein defekter Bremslichtschalter das ganze Auto lahm :-)
Criminally underrated video. Really wonderful and thorough explanation of the car. I think with your sense of humour you could make your own great repair tutorials. Keep it up!
Thank you for doing this in English it is most appreciated ✅✅👍🏻👌🏻
I bought the LR3 knowing I could do the work, one of the easiest cars I have worked on. Great accurate video!
Great video. I have driven my 2007LR3 2.7D since 2009. Bought it with 34k km on the clock. Just passed 342k km. It needs maintenance, budget 1200 euros per year and ur fine. Otherwise it's a brilliant all round go anywhere vehicle. Super capable. Keep the vids coming.
Wow, averaging 25k km per year, I will need an other 5 years to get there. But I´ll do my best to get this done. Thanks for your feedback - it is very much appreciated.
Is your v6 or v8?
if you were here, you may wreck 2000 worth of tyres a year if you are in the Outback, most roads out there are not sealed
First of all congratulations for the video. A few years ago I had a Discovery 2 V8. It was a dream to have one here in Brazil. I took many scares with the electrical part and few with the mechanics. But I miss Disco2. Here in Brazil, there are many UA-camrs, who say they specialize in automotive matters, they have never owned a Land Rover in their lives but they criticize, speak badly and badly say Discovery 3, Range Rovers and Freelanders. Disco3 being the critical champion! They don't understand the Land Rover "legend". Ok, here too the prices at the dealerships make anyone bankrupt, but we can find parts via the Internet easily. You have to know how to dig! Finally, your video made me rekindle the old passion for Disco3. I'm already dating several in the classifieds on the web. I've had Cherokee, Explorer, Dakota (all V8), Subaru, but Discovery has no equal. A big hug and thanks for sharing!
Hey that is so great. And yes if you dig deep you'll find what you need. Hope you get a great Discovery 3. I have several happy Discovery 3 owners / subscribers out of Brazil. 😀👍🙋♀️Vera
The good thing I like is how your wife is very involved in the repairs and remembers the changes. Nice video.
Nice to see someone not slagging Land rovers and just getting on with repairing it great video.
Hi Christian and Vera,
I was about to abandon my 2006 Disco 3 because of dreaded error P22090 (rail pressure too low and limp home mode). Sunk 3000 euros into a shop for diagnosing the problem and replacing the in-tank fuel pump and basically checking everything on the low-pressure side. I was not ready to put in another suggested 4k for a high pressure fuel pump (HPFP). So I wanted to give up. That’s when I stumbled over this video.
It completely changed my world. After 6 happy years, I knew already several of those weak points you mention. Well, with my newly-found “Innere Einstellung” I decided to give it a go. Believe it or not, I ordered a HPFP (450 euros refurbished, looking like new), and replaced mine. Took me two days all in all. The ECM is happy to get 158MPa fuel pressure again! Car runs like new!
THANK YOU.
(I have the HPFP type 5WS40157, which is a little bigger than newer Discos have I think, from 2007 onwards. I could barely get it out. A bit of a problem is that the belt case can’t be removed, because it is held by the cam shaft wheel, so I had to force it a bit. But it worked. If you need help with this one sometimes, give me a shout :)
(Funny fact: I put the old belt back in, because the new one didn’t arrive in time, and I decided that changing it later is no big deal at all, anymore. :-)
😃👍 That is so great. Those kind of comments make it all worth the effort. Thank you. Fabian has had the same problems (I don't know if you have seen our last couple of videos where we worked on Fabians Discovery). He had the same problems, but we have been avoiding changing the HPFP. But since he wants to travel through Mongolia with this car, we are going to change the HPFP anyways, but haven't found a new one yet ( or appearantly haven't looked hard enough)😉 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Once I endoscopically found the HPFP’s number plate, it became much easier to find a replacement.
Since you already ruled out injector leakage, there are exactly four problems left than could cause P2290: 1) rail pressure sensor (sits in the diverting rail and can be replaced individually, about 15€ the cheapest ones); 2) the pump itself which doesn’t create enough pressure; 3) malfunctioning VCV (integrated part of the pump, and usually replaced/tested with it); 4) malfunctioning PCV (also integrated part of the pump, and usually replaced/tested with it).
I probably wouldn’t bother changing the rail pressure sensor, when it delivers plausible values but just the maximum pressure is limited. When idling, it reads 22MPa (220bar) in my case. My old pump topped out at about 135MPa, but it should do 160.
Great video...well done! I appreciate how you put work into your vehicle to keep it going instead of just selling it and buying something else. People don’t understand how just simple maintenance can extend the life of a vehicle. I love the LR3 and have always wanted one. I can’t break away from my Land Cruiser though. I’ll just continue to admire them from afar.
Thanks for the trip! I felt I was in your Land Rover all this time. I Own a Disco One and a 2005 Gasoline Discovery 3 or LR3 here in the USA. Thanks again from El Paso, Texas USA.
16:44 still watching. Very good video and easy to watch. Watching with the sound off in bed late at night - you explain well and it is enjoyable :)
Brilliant video, I am a Disco 2 owner because I feared the Disco 3. You've taken that fear away through the straightforward way you have described the typical problems. Prima!!
Once you have had a good experience when owning a Landy you will always be in love with the brand. I currently have a 1992 Defender and a 2012 Disco 4 and both have their own personality. I love them and same as you, I realise that regular preventative maintenance is the secret to happy Land Rovering, old and newer models alike. Where we live is a dry part of Australia so rust is not a problem either, both my cars are rust free. I wish you many more years of happy Land Rover ownership.
PS. Try a Disco 4 next car, all those D3 problems have been resolved
I know more people who hate every Land Rover after owning one or two due to reliability problems.
@@Coordinator61 Yes, and I know there are a lot of people that get confused between their lack of maintenance and unreliability. A bad worker always blames his tools!
@@paulmurphy454 i worked all over the world in remote areas. Only Hilux and Land Cruisers. Land Rovers stay in town.
„Landrover stay in town“ - that’s a good one - I love it. Maybe I’ll make a bumper sticker for mine: „I need to stay in town“ (with an unhappy looking LR3 cartoon).
@@Coordinator61 and yet Series, Defender, 101FC served the British Army all over the world, inc Aus, and even in the ocean (landing craft beach assault)
Were neighbours! Another masterpiece may I say. It felt like I was being chauffer driven through the beautiful mountainess village's of beautiful Germany in my own car. I use Mandy every day. I teach freelance English here in The Czech republic, so a lot of driving and all you listed is totally true and has been repaired or maybe fixed including a new air pump. The first one failed after a year. The new one is a Bosch. I'm sure you will be pleased to hear. So the German one should be far better than the Chinese hair dryer. I must confess that I couldn't possibly do what you do. I wouldn't know where to start. I use a Czech mechanic who I visit every year. My Mandy 3k automatic LR3 full leather. still use the old satnav. missing the toe bar and some tools. Buckingham blue and almost as old as I am. You and Vera are simply genius. Thank you.
I put up with all the BS from my 2006 LR3 V8 HSE because it looks so cool & rides so nice & is so off-road capable. It still looks contemporary & better than 90% of SUV's out on the road.
What all did you have to do to maintain it? I’m looking at an 08 V8 SE right now
I hear you on cheap aftermarket lower arms. Here in the UK my LR4 failed its MoT test yet with lower arms and bushes after only 4 years and just 22k miles. Just had new original parts fitted and now the drive is super.
Thanks guys.
Thank you for giving us a whole new perspective to owning our LR3.
We had nearly every part replaced once if not twice but I always looked at it the wrong way.
I should come round to your way of thinking and look forward for the next time the LR3 breaks down and leaves us stranded.
The power of positive thinking turns this lemon of a car into a lifelong project how to become a better person, thank you both👍
😅👍 🙋♀️ Vera
I have drove almost all suv's but the pleasure that I ha e got driving my old lr3 was not even with brand new suv's. With all its draw back I just love it.
We feel the same 👍🙋♀️ Vera
I’m so glad that at last there are some people shows the disco3 the respect that it earns. I have a 2007 at 250.000km on clock. I’m in love with mine. I’m an ınterior architect & designer, i know what this car means and how it’s designed. Everybody must be proud of their Discovery 3-4. At last the days of the respect on Disco 3 has begun. A little of people had understand the capabilities of this vehicle.
Very great video, thanks for all the information that you’ve given. King regards
The D3 (and D4) is a very timeless design I think. People who are not as much into cars allways think that my car is nearly new when I take them for a ride. And then they are stunned when I let them know that it is over 14 years old. Thanks for your feedback and please look for my next video.
Greetings from Romania and congrats on your video! 3 years into our 2005 D3 so far, in which we put >70k km (just passed 180k on the clock), and we love it. We also wish to keep it forever :D
Romania is on our list of future Adventures. Thank you for your comment and keep overlanding. 👍💪
Really enjoying your videos. Brings back many memories of working on my D3 that I bought new in May 2005 and still own at 192000 miles. In the early days the Disco3 Forum knew more about the car than the dealers. 17 years later I am still doing my own maintenance.
Just watching this video and thinking I know this voice. See your face in the workshop. Hey Christian. Good to see you. Such a small world. Good to see you driving around the Odenwald. Thought of buying a LR4 a lot of times but we still keep our old and very reliable Landcruiser 105. Greetings from Perth.
'I wonder if we get more than 50 clicks on this video' As of today: 69,930 views. Well done, really interesting and entertaining, so thoroughly deserved success. As ever, best wishes from the UK
😃👍 Yeah we didn't see that one coming. 🙋♀️ Vera
Well deserved recognition for your channel - great team work and excellent mix of travel , LR time and projects.
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
Super video, very informative and you are both well spoken. I would love to have a discovery 3 or 4 but watching your video I realise I don't have the skill, tools, knowledge or money to maintain it like you have. Was lovely to see your country it's very picturesque , I miss travelling in Europe this summer. Many thanks from Northern Ireland :)
Thanks. Ireland is on our bucket list for travel too. Hopefully in the next years.
I love Land Rover, I have the same engine, I'm happy, you have to take care and it's great
What an excellent video! I just bought a 2009 LR3 with the hopes of living out my dream hobby (performing my own maintenance on my own vehicle) and this video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Best of luck!
Can I just say that you have a great taste in music
Hi Christain. I've just discovered your channel.
You have almost the same philosophy regarding the D3 as I do. I've had mine for nearly 7 years and now it has 310,000km , 240,000km of those are mine, so I've encounted most of the faults.
Most definitely stay away from LR. They are easy to fix. I have some comments on your points.
All years of 2.7 oil pumps are suspect until the revised version is fitted. Only fit a FoMoCo pump.
Body off is not that bad for a shop with a 2 post lift.
The turbo actuator doesn't stick if the car is well driven up to the red line regularly.
Service the EPB park brake annually, it will never fail.
Use an IID tool or similar tool with Car Configuration File editing facility to turn off the auto apply of the EPB, you can even set a manual gearbox car to auto release the EPB.
Service your air compressor now, before the light comes on. The air drier suffers with cracking and dessicant gel caking causing a blockage.
I see you've rust proofed the air tank. Wet countries suffer from rust underneath, and your car is suffering like UK cars do.
The rear timing belt is easier on a LHD like yours as there is no need to take the battery out to get hand room like on a RHD car.
I see you've refurbed your rear wheel bearings, with a hammer. Good work.
You must be heavy on the brakes, I get nearly 100,000km out of my pads.
I don't agree with your assessment of the manual gerabox. Auto for me, always, it matches the car very well.
I run a facebook group dedicated to the technical aspaects of the L319 Discoverys.
Https://facebook.com/groups/1667428720239548/?ref=share
I think your vidoes are great, you're a natural. Keep on Discovering and I hope to meet you on the road somewhere.
Thanks for your comments. I never thought of doing any preventative maintenance on my air compressor. This is a awesome hint. I will do some research and then take it appart. It sure was never open before.
Is the air dryer a replacement part?
I never opened the EPB either. It did start to grind just recently but recovered after a few attempts. So I ordert the replacement parts kit from Britpart. This is now on my bucket list to do. Should have maintained this better as you said. Parts where 130€.
My disk brakes now are ok and have about 50k. I guess I had cheap parts or pads before. Still, no chance that they will last 100k. We live in a hilly area with many curves.
Good hint with the turbo link. Let´s me worry less about it.
I miss an automatic transmission too sometimes...
I have to add: The rear wheel bearing actually came apart when installing it with a hammer. I know this now and I did not feel good at this time. Hope the seal is working. This was my first push-in Wheel bearing ever. Made me think about getting a press. I am not a car mechanic but my car will not get someone else’s hands on it.
I would like to know who and why the haters are giving the thumbs down. It is so easy to just stop watching a video and click on another one, so why the thumbs down??? I love these videos and own a Jeep. Someday I will look at Discovery models to purchase as our daily driver.
😅👍 Just mailed you a sticker for your Jeep. 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian oh the LR guys are going to be jealous when they see it. We have a big group going camping this weekend. They are all Disco 1 and series ii owners. None of the LR3’s could make the trip this time.
Thanks for a great video, I have an early Discovery 4 and can relate to most of the issues you’ve had with yours.
Some great tips as well, thank you!
Andrew FitzMaurice hows that going for you. I just can't get the thought of an LR3 out of my head. But it's just idk if I can afford the standard maintenance.
@@chrisconstantino9827 I use a local Land Rover specialist and it does make a massive difference in the cost of running mine.
A standard service would be around £300, but I usually need, or ask for something extra to be done, such as changing the gearbox oil as an example, servicing the electric handbrake etc.
So my services are usually around £500 with extra work/repairs.
Over the past couple of years all of the suspension arms have been changed. In terms of failures I have needed a new power steering rack (around £300 I think), new air compressor (£4-500 roughly), complete new electronic handbrake (£1,000) that has been the one item that has really annoyed me, one the cost of it and two I have been told it isn’t a service item, so since being replaced I now specifically request it is serviced annually.
It does worry me at times something major will go wrong, as there have been a few incidents of crank failure on the 3.0 diesels, but with mine being a 2010 on around 120,000 miles it would probably be scrapped.
If you are looking at the 2.7 diesel Discovery 3, there is an issue with the bracket failing that holds the water pump, there is an updated part you can fit, it does only apply to certain model years so worth checking.
Despite painting a grim picture of costs and faults, I absolutely love my Discovery, it just makes me feel as though I am in something special and something I have never felt before in any of my other cars.
@@andrewfitzmaurice7843 thank you for all of that. I really appreciate it. I live in the states so I've been looking at the naturally aspirated v8 since there's a bit more power/torque than the v6.
Any specific forums you go on?
@@chrisconstantino9827 I would certainly love a V8, but the fuel costs in the UK would be horrendous!!
Whilst it is a mainly a UK forum (there is a good few US members as well and other LR3 V8 owners), disco3 dot com is fantastic with some incredibly helpful and knowledgeable members so definitely take a look.
@@andrewfitzmaurice7843 awesome thank you very much!
Yep - I fixed my compressor air dryer cap with an aluminum one from eBay for $70 - Independent wanted $2800 to put a new AMK air compressor in. That was like 4-5 years ago and my compressor still working fine. Its a known fault the air dryer cap splits down the mold line right through middle. Super easy to fix and diagnose with some soapy water. Most issues with D3 are common manufacturing faults and well documented and easy to fix.
Yes you are right, that is why we are not afraid of anything the car throws at us. We'll just deal with it as it comes. The good thing is that you definitely know it's coming sooner or later. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi , the car makes a great diner for your family . An honest report on replacement parts and the fun you have had on your adventures . Take care and thanks for your video😉👍
Been watching you guys now for a couple of months now and have to say have inspired me & my wife to get a discovery 3 after thinking about getting one for years. The car is to take us on our journey from the UK to Portugal where we are going to live so it, hopefully this will be our long term car. I don't mind doing things on cars and the way you show how you do your repairs is great!! So we'll keep watching and learning from you. Keep up the good video's!!
Oh you are going to love this car. If you got any questions, feel free to email us. Good luck on your journey ahead. 😃🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Thanks Vera.
A true appreciation of the Car and its faults! Fantastic video, I hope you have many more happy miles.
Wow! Those mountain road drops, very scary but stunning views. Just imagine getting a blowout on that road.
Was fur eine wundervolle familie. Ich vermisse kinder. Die wachsen auf und verschwinden.
nice honest video, i've got an auto 2008 and you just use the tip tronic bit when you need more power
Wow! At 2min 13 sec breath taking scenery. The mountains look awesome. Germany is beautiful
Thank you for your efforts, very enjoyable. I have a 2007 HSE, Owning a Land Rover is not an entirely practical choice but more a state of mind (good or bad!) and for those who do not subscribe to that, they will always see the negatives and there are plenty. But it's a Land Rover!
I agree 100%.
Fabulous video! If I was 1/100th as capable as you to perform my own repairs, then I might consider purchasing one of those things. As it stands, you have absolutely convinced me beyond any shadow of a doubt that I should NEVER become an owner of any LandRover, period! I live in the US (Michigan), and I have owned several Jaguar sportscars, two of which we still have! Those have had their issues from time-to-time, but nothing like what you have experienced with your "Landy". Think I'll keep my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland 4x4 Diesel, with Off-Road Adventure II Package, Air Suspension, and multiple aftermarket bash plates and rock sliders, which I frequently take off road in some pretty nasty stuff. Again, GREAT Video! I highly recommend it to anyone considering the purchase of a used Land Rover LR3 (or any other model for that matter)!
I never changed the brake pad brand or model on my D4 from the standard, but after I sold my D4, everyone I spoke to recommended EBC Greenstuff brake pads. No idea about them, but people get quite passionate about them.
This is so funny. I was thinking of asking for a discovery review, as after watching your videos I am thinking of getting a discovery so as to rest my 2002 Defender.
Thank you very much for your excellent videos. They are entertaining and educational. I lived in Spangdahlem Germany for 3 years and enjoyed your beautiful country. The two of you make great movies and you are both Rock Stars! I’m off to buy an LR3! You make it fun and exciting!
Thoroughly enjoyed watching your video, very entertaining, thank you. I was constantly finding myself nodding my head and laughing in agreement with your comments!! :-)
I have a very similar UK spec 2006 manual Discovery now with 150k miles on the clock and have had many of the problems mentioned in the 10 years we have owned it (bought in 2010 with 56k). Like you, despite the issues we also still love our Disco 3 and are reluctant to part with it. It is an amazing and capable all purpose vehicle but just needs regular maintenance and attention (and perhaps a second car to use when it breaks down)!
Keep posting please, you are an inspiration to us sometimes beleaguered Discovery owners!!
Great tips on what can go wrong with a Discovery 3 and totally agree about the manual gearbox,you feel more at one with the vechicle.
Thanks. Auto trans would be nice in city traffic sometimes. But overland the manual is more fun.
Found this video today and subscibed immediate. Thanks for this one. After more than 20 years of driving Discovery 1 and 2 we're thinking of buying a Discovery 3. It's kind of reassuring this car will brake down as often as our previous Discoveries. I was a bit worried about the costs of the repairs and how much you can do yourself on a car stuffed with electronics. I will be looking for one in Germany because here in the Netherlands you won't find one with less than 250.000 km on the clock.
👍😃Welcome to the channel. I really hope you find a good Disco 3 here in Germany. They are slowly getting old and finding one with less than 180000 is becoming a challenge. 🙋♀️ Vera
I will do likewise assuming my local parts dealer can get the part here. Love your videos, thank you for investing your time and considera🎉produce such entertaining, informative and useful videos on my favourite vehicle.
really fun video, thank you. i have 2007 v6 petrol and it goes great, i have had a couple of issues you mentioned but i repair myself and it is fun. living in Australia i go off road often and it does a great job. every so often i think of upgrading but it goes too well still to do this. the air springs are very easy to change, the air valves are also easy to change or replace o-rings on, the compressor needs the dryer module changing so get that done, its a very simple job...
Well from Johannesburg South Africa another click (so you should have more than 55 hehe), found your experiences very interesting, amusing & enjoyable. Thank You, hope you still enjoying your Discovery, they are amazing. Go well, happy driving
Stuart Vorster, I think many +10 year old cars are exported from Germany to South Africa. Dealers need to grand a warranty by law here in Germany when selling used cars and this is the reason why they sometimes choose to sell them to exporters because this exempts them from warranty obligations. A 10 year old car driven only on German roads is in the same condition as a 2 year old car from Michigan. There is just no harsh weather or bad roads here. I think I have a business trip coming up in September going to Uitenhage. May be delayed for obvious reasons.... Hope this will work out anyhow. Me in S.A.!
Stuart any LR service center near ORTambo Airport? I left mine in the airport vallet parking in Jan and will need to service before driving.
Really enjoyed that! I have a similar car, Discovery 3, silver, manual. I've bought it with 1000 miles in 2006 on it and it's just turned 170000 miles, so around 273k km. I've done a lot of work myself, but I have a local independent landrover specialist who did the clutch for me that started slipping at around 140k miles. I can concur, it eats brakes..possibly because it's a manual...but ecen brake discs and calipers is a easy job. I had to upgrade by jack, axle stands and torque wrench, as everything is bigger, heavier and needs tightening up tighter on a landrover. I've replaced the front suspension arms, still running the original rears! repaired the suspension pump once, replaced it with an upgraded item the next time, so I've seen most of what you have seen..but nothing has been too bad and parts are not expensive....so if I'd have to replace it, I'd have another! Agree, really like the manual gearbox.
I used to buy cheap spares and I stopped doing so about 2 years ago. Should have bought high quality spares right away - they are good priced, just like you wrote. Thanks for your feedback.
Excellent review of common maintenance and repairs needed, thank you. You live in a beautiful area with some pretty sketchy narrow passing places, well done! Glad you worked out the differences between doing repairs by touch not taste!
Great to see someone who appreciates a Disco 3 and what they really are.My one has done 400000 klm (my 2005) and are just starting to do replacement parts as you describe for the second time .Like you i do all my own repairs and have a Gap iid tool which has been the best part i have bought Hahaha. These are fantastic vehicles and will own mine forever i think LOL. They have minor fails as i see it ,but that's general wear and tear of any vehicle.Mechanically it has been fail safe and very reliable.I have never replaced my oil pump although i purchased mine at 120000 klm so may have been done already,but is still running the original motor and drive line and runs like a sewing Machine. Not bad for a 15 yo vehicle. Thank you for posting this vid Christian !
400T km! My salute & respect! We are only half way then… Just like you, we plan to drive our LR3 forever. Unfortunately, the German government and a great part of the population will make this goal more and more difficult. Diesels are banned in some cities over here in Germany.
@@Vera_and_Christian Oh thats a damn shame.Can't get enough diesels here in Australia.Most people are complaining the new Defender will not have a Diesel . You and your family take care there Christian
Nice video!! I bought my LR3/D3 V8 for about $1800 with 173k miles 2½ years ago. Today the odometer show 211k miles and counting since this is my all purpose vehicle, and I enjoyed every mile 👍👍
Any major maintenance items since you last commented?
@@jordanpierce1366 Hi there, I sold my LR3 with 278k miles and running strong with no mayor problems at that time. Under my ownership I replaced the original front suspension that came with the vehicle, the thermostat and the radiator, the part I replaced the most was the PCV (3 times), a friend of mine solved that problem adapting a catch can.
Nice video... the costs really mount in the end🤯
I’m really enjoying your channel! I’m in the UK and probably the greatest advocate of the Discovery/LR4, having had to replace only 3 door locks (£150 each) in 7.5 years and 140,000 miles. Otherwise just routine servicing. Everything works, including TVs, economy is OK at 28.5mpg and it just goes. It has the ZF 8speed box with the 3litre diesel. Touch wood the car has been the best 4x4 I’ve ever owned but it is also the best family car, bike carrier, people mover, van and posh event car, it is a great motorway cruiser and always has extra stowage space somewhere even when you think it’s full. It doesn’t eat tyres like some cars I’ve had and has a real spare, not a space saver, can of foam or run flats. If you advertised this car with that age and those miles I’d probably pass but that would be a mistake. I’m lucky in that I use an approved specialist who has dozens of these on their books, and some at the 300,000 mile mark. The way mine feels today, still squeak and rattle free, that mileage seems realistic. The worst 4x4s I’ve owned over the last 22 years are ones that you’d never guess, and the absolute worst of the lot at only 20,000 miles would shock you. It broke down on day 1 and is a regular at the dealer who sold it to me. And part of the problem is the main dealers here for that brand don’t know the vehicle well enough to fix it properly. Years ago I did ask a 4x4 specialist before buying the Land Rover whether it was risky and their view was that on average all 4x4s are much the same over time. I’ve owned 8 other off readers and one SUV, and I think their assessment was about right.
Thank you Land Hopper. Agree with you. Most other SUVs have the same issues when getting old. Who buys a 250tk VW or Mercedes and expects a cheep trouble free ride? For some reason this is expected from a Discovery... Complaints about air suspension? Yes, this is not a issue in a JK or JL. 👍
I’m at 259,000 miles on my ‘06 LR3. Love it. I’d mention the expansion tank float gets saturated and stops floating, giving false “low coolant” messages. Replace the LCA bushings with poly bushings and you’ll never replace LCA’s again. Will change the feel of the car a bit. The valve cover gaskets can start to leak, but easy to replace. If you have idling issues, clean out the MAF butterfly valve with MAF cleaner. Only once have I had a parking brake issue, and I changed the pads. I hardly use the PB as it is so I’ve never had issues since. Address and air suspension leak downs ASAP. First do the test with the batt disconnected. This will help you isolate whether it is the valve blocks or airbags, or even the compressor.
When it is below freezing, my fuel gauge locks up and reads empty. No big deal as long as I know how much fuel is left approximately. But the computer shuts of the electric diesel heater (FBH) and the vehicle will not warm up sufficiently any more. That is the live of a LR3 owner. PB died last week in the alps... Will have a video of the repair soon I guess. Thanks for your feedback.
I suspect this video will, eventually, get an awful lot of views. Good useful information to anyone thinking about a Disco but is wary of the reputation.
Definitely helpful!
they are as comfortable as a BMW on sealed roads, every other 4x4 is the opposite, I use Cooper AT Tyres, but Toyo are more affordable and very good
We bought a Disco 2 TD5 as we do all our own repairs and live way out in the wilds. I do worry about the electronics and the TD6 cam belt/body off issues. We've fallen in love with the TD5 now as we live in a place with bad roads and we get real snow... the english equivalent of Siberia! The TD5 has been very reliable and we have only had recovery once in the 6 years we have owned her ❤️
i know it's been a year since you guys posted this amazing video, but i just have to thank you from the bottom of my heart, i'm portuguese and i'm thinking about buying one so thank you so much because you guys posted this great video and yes, I watched the video until the end
Seems like you are going to keep this one running forever! And why not? It's a pretty decent vehicle, and it looks like you have a lot of fun in it, as well as good times maintaining it.
Another very common failure in the LR3 is the cracking of the dash , here in the Middle East. Apparently JLR continued to market the LR3 even though they were fully aware of this issue, and there is no recall to replace their faulty part
I really appreciate your L-R tutorial videos, you and your supper fantastic wife are great double act.
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
Your videos are great. As a Disco owner your videos are really appreciated
Great video, I enjoyed listening and ticking off everything I had to do over the last 8 years, the only one I haven't had yet was a wheel bearing. In addition I've had to change the air compressor, front and rear diffs, starter motor, alternator, height sensors, gearbox, rear propshaft, injectors, glow plugs, alternator tension pulley. Sill love the Discovery though. Congrats on more than 50 views, I did smile when I heard you say that and then looked at current views, well deserved.
Thank you, great video and beautiful country.
Christian not expecting as many as 50 clicks ... and now approaching 150,000.
I never knew you could choose a registration number in Germany like in the UK, it's a good one. Someone near where I lived a while ago had a Defender with V14 MUD (via mud) which was also rather good
😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Many thanks for taking the time to produce your very informative and valuable story. I am considering upgrading from our Disco 2 to the Disco 3 so I really appreciate learning the ownership lessons from you. Best wishes from Aus.
Land Rover Discovery 2 2004
List of issues addressed:
(From purchase @ 100,000 miles 3.5 years ago, to present day 160,000 miles.)
4 Michelin tyres
4 brakes (pads & discs)
1 driver’s window regulator
1 front drive / prop-shaft
8 spark plugs
1 ignition wire wire set (8)
2 coil pack sets (4/8)
1 valve cover gasket
1 mass air flow sensor
2 oxygen sensors
1 battery
1 alternator
2 rear brake pads discs rotors
1 water pump
1 serpentine belt
1 radiator (transmission)
1 transmission fluid change
2 differential fluid change
1 rear prop shaft coupling
1 front prop shaft u-joint
4 Falcon tyres
1 set inner & outer tie rods
1 drag link joint end
2 front brakes (pads & discs)
8 spark plugs
1 passenger window regulator
1 driver’s seat cushion
1 battery
♥️ Loving this Land Rover Discovery 2! ♥️
though thats a lot. a LOT of that sounds like its neglect from the former owner.
How much did that cost? Did you do the work yourself?
hi i am also a discovery 3 owner here in the uk, i just wanted to say thsnk you so much for making these videos i spend a few hours a week watching and learning new things too, i completely agree with everything you said about the disco 3 i changed my oil pump to the newer type the stronger type and all belts too, i am on my second air compressor. and i also cleaned my front and midddle air blocks i had the body off in a shop for that witch was very costly like £850 plus the new belts and oil pump etc. yeah i agree with you on the fact that these trucks do need to be maintained all year round which in turn doesn't really give you many problems these discovery 3 are great vehicles when they work and i mean with out any faults but i would put it into 2 types of faults 1 beings actual problems that just turn up when they want and 2. just wear and tear on parts like my alternator died but it was 15 years old, hopefully some time next year i will be swapping all my air suspension shocks for springs conversion and still have all the off road terrain settings just because i feel the truck will out last the air suspension, plus we have had so many problems with ours. i also fitted a roof rack for when we go away camping we had about 600kg of stuff on our roof plus 2 adults and 4 children and not 1 problem we also took a spare air compressor with us because i new what the car is like. i do have a Instagram account with my discovery 3 pictures on there just message me if you wish to follow my story of my D3.. thank you again
Hello Rusty, what is your exact Instagram name?
Ours is "Its LR Time".
Thank you for writing your story to us. The LR3 is the most underestimated SUV with the widest span of lovers and haters. We will look at your Insta site.
Great honest review above and beyond 👍👍👍👍👍
I love his comment right after the woman starts driving "Eh maybe I should buckle up!"
Great videos, thanks for creating them. I too have had a love affair with my Disco 3 since 2009 (only 130000 km) and have been through most of the issues you describe but without the benefit of a workshop, the time and requisite skill to repair it myself. I’m now going through electrical and suspension issues again, likely a new alternator required and lower arms. I was ready to finally give up but, inspired by you, maybe I’ll give it one last slug of cash!
Hello Jed, thanks for your comment and good luck with the upcoming repairs.
great video, thank you. It seems like a labour of love owning a D3. When you said "the wheel nuts rust, swell up and then the tool doesnt fit", you may have finally put me off buying one!
Yes, you need to be "dedicated" to drive this car - no doubt. I indeed bought 20 new wheel nuts on ebay at one time for 7€ each! But we love this car and there is nothing what will change this. But I would be crazy to recommend it to other people.
I guess we always had high-maintenance cars and put up with many problems. My first car with 18 y was a 1988 Lancia Delta HF Turbo.
@@Vera_and_Christian Since I left my comment I might have been won over by the car. I'm used to higher maintenance cars, my every day car is a 35 year old BMW so I expect it to be an upgrade from that! What frustrates me is poor design, esspecially style over substance, and the wheel nuts are a sign of that. Thankfully I have not found many other issues like this in my research.
Thanks for making your excellent videos.
You are welcome. Veras Freelander has BMW parts and it is ok. But I can imagine that a high end BMW is about the most complex setup available. I do like high end German cars and I get to drive them once in a while as company rentals. As a private person, I prefer older cars with less technology. Fanciest car I ever had was a 2001 A6 quattro. It was loaded and easily topped the 2006 LR3 in all Features. But we did not connect to it.
Your young lad has some serious bike skills, he will be conquering Erzberg in a few years 😎👌🏻….. nice videos and some very useful information 👍🏻
If you enjoy repairing your car then you definitely bought the right one. lol. They are a nice car when they're going.
very good and interesting video. i dont have a discovery 3 but do have a 1998 defender and 1980 Series 3 but what you say about preventative maintenance is totally correct for all landrovers. look after them and you'll love them for years. I thought these discoveries would be very hard to work on but your video makes it look quite easy, they are getting quite cheap to buy in the UK too so i might be tempted!
Land Rovers, you either love them or you hate them. One things for sure, people who love them learn to maintain them and become very good mechanics, unlike owners of "ORDINARY" cars. I've owned a few, Series 2 Defender, Range Rover Classic, Discovery 1 and 2, and currently a slightly modified Range Rover P38 V8. The main thing is I enjoy doing the maintenance as well as the repairs. Good video, I really enjoyed it, Thank you. Sad to hear that only one track is drivable in Germany. Too much government control.
You love LR3... i feeling in the Video. I love it too thank you for video.
Watched it all. Agree with most said - @ £2+ per item, I thought wheel nuts to be quite affordable, but definitely a pain of a design error!
Still watching, , Watching with nice view and music is nice.
Glad to see some one making a video about liking the disco been thinking about one myself but get put off by people.I drive a Freelander and was told the same thing before I bought it I know its not a real Landrover but these days what is
What is written on the bonnet how many oval badges are on your car with Landrover on them ?
I'm on my 2nd Freelander 2 . I did 65000 miles in the first one and I've done 20000 miles in my 2nd one and I have zero issues with either of them
Like any car or mechanical machine , get them serviced regularly and look after them and they don't let you down
If you think you don't have a real Landrover look on u-tube for the guy driving a freelander 2 in Australia and it will change your mind
I've taken off road courses at Eastnor Castle in a Freelander and it went wherever a Defender went just slower
wanted this for gambia your tips are most helpful!
Great video thank you! I like to work by taste also. They are a fantastic 4x4 if you're willing to get your hands dirty, which I like.
totaly agreed, land rover dealers to proud and out of mind,i do all on my own on my D3 !
Great film, thank you Christian. I've had my 2005 2.7ltr TDV6 D3 10 years now and it has 138000 miles on the clock. It's caused me some problems over the years, but I love it and would hope to keep it until the end of my days. Many of the problems I've had have been the ones you mention, such as EGR valve, which I had blanked off rather than replace. It's OK to do that here in the UK on a car the age of mine. I'm fortunate to have a good LR independent specialist close by who has looked after mine for years, but recently I've been taking on the easier jobs myself and filming for my UA-cam channel. I also have a 60s classic car that I'm learning to do some of the easier jobs on. I look forward to watching more of your films.
I wish we could blank out the EGR here in Germany too. The EGR on the LR3 is really a joke anyhow and its there for the piece of mind at the best. Under regular driving conditions, on a plate 2006, the EGR really never actuates. It does the cleaning cycle and that is it and that is also why it fails. I never saw mine actuating. Not in the summer or in the winter. Well, we in Germany will have to all ride cargo e-bikes in the near future and we will know SUV´s only from youtube and news out of other coutries. Thanks for your feedback and enjoy the ride.
My next video will be about fixing our Freelander. We actually have it longer than our Discovery and it has more miles on the clock too but it is not as much loved and this is why we invested quite a bit of work in order to show our appreciation for this car as well.
I love land rovers they’re design Is brilliant but I’m not a mechanic I can do the basic things but I typically couldn’t afford to drive one . Toyota or American vehicles are more realistic for me , I think the reason why I love them is because I took auto body and the work they put into the interior and the body work and off road capability is stellar .i really don’t understand why they don’t fix the common problems with Land Rover .
I like your philosophy in owning a car. Was just skipping through videos and wasn’t going to watch the whole thing but then I found myself at the end without skipping. I subscribed just for the Disco3.co.uk shout out.
It would be nice if you linked the people or videos you are talking about in the video tho 👍🏼
We are so happy to receive this kind of feedback. I am a novice in making You Tube videos and there is a lot to learn. I will try to link the videos I talk about. It took me 30 min to film the video and 4h to cut and edit 😬. Thank you for your feedback 👍. I am User DIRT44 on Disco3.Uk. A very good source for information.
Your videos are just great! I think many people find them very helpfull, and amusing! I am also a Citroen man and follow your 2.7 experiences as the engines are fairly similar. I have a 2009 2.7 C6 with about 118.000 miles - 180,000 km. I am looking to buy a C6 for parts. If it is working o.k. would you need the basic engine? I like to drive around Europe and could probably even deliver it! Keep on Truckin"!.
Hi guys 👍🏻 Love your German accent explaining things in English about an English Land Rover 🤣 Great tips as I think most people would be put off purchasing such an expensive used motor!! But I really think what your showing is it’s not that bad for a bit of cheap luxury that’s simple to fix. So we’ll done you guys 👍🏻 Cheers Stevie 😎🏴
Well I hope you watch a couple of more clips. This car is so great, and it doesn't have to be a money pit with a little bit of dedication and ingenuity. One of our latest videos was a great example of what we try to do, maybe you want to watch it ua-cam.com/video/SeIk9dtPJIE/v-deo.html 🙋♀️ Vera
I’m on the park brake now lol 😆
Can not imagine my Disco with a manual transmission but sort of get where you come from as I have the dreaded F fault on my 2008 disco currently !
You know, there's a manual release catch on either side of the lower tailgate? No crow-bar or sledge hammer required!
My top tip for parts, whether you do fix it yourself, or get someone else to do it is, if the thing turns, seals or is safety critical, use a genuine (or the very best OEM) part. Anything else, patterned parts are OK.
The patterned parts are cheap, but generally don't last long - and you'll end up having to do the job again pretty soon.
There are some really good repairs for these vehicles which are easy & low cost compared to getting a dealer to do them. Most independent repairers know how to do them, but youtube has videos on the majority if you want to DIY.
Both Disco 3, 4 & L320 RRS are very underrated vehicles. The electronics is very reliable - but that's what most people worry about. Generally if there's a fault code or electrical problem, it's actually a mechanical part that's worn out - nothing to do with the computers. They are just the messenger!
You must be new to our channel👍. Maybe you have a look at a couple more videos from us.😃👍🙋♀️
@@Vera_and_Christian This is the first video I've watched! Sorry if you've already covered this.
Greetings from Ontario, Canada. Originally from the UK. Came across your videos as I am looking at buying a used LR3 or LR4. Love your video style and nice to see some of your countryside. I work with a guy who's family live in the German countryside too and it looks beautiful. I am so glad you do at least some of your videos in English. My German is non existent apart from a few words which is very embarrassing as your English is so good. Keep up the great work and if you have any good links you can recommend i would appreciate it. I already watched the guy who replaced his handbrake mechanism in the rain. Very entertaining.
Danke and take care during this crazy time.
Hello Michael, thanks for your feedback. We traveled in Ontario quite a bit about 15 years ago and we loved it very much. Enjoy your time and forgive your LR3 when it’s in the mood.
Great video, beautiful country.
You’re kid was doing some nice trialsin’ !
You probably already know this, but you can open the lower rear hatch manually. There is a latch below the pin on the right side and above the pin on the left side. You can get your finger in there with the bottom hatch closed but it's easiest to see for the first time while the hatch is open.
Yes we know and have shown that in a video a couple of years ago👍🙋♀️
Tolles Video! Das mit den Reifen kann ich gut nachvollziehen hatte die gleichen auf meinem Disco 3 die sind einfach furchtbar auf nasser Fahrbahn. Hab jetzt auf meinem Disco 4 die General Grabber AT3 drauf die sind bedeutend besser und leiser. Von den "Problemen" die ihr ansprecht kenn ich die meisten :-D. EGR neu, Querlenker neu und die Bremsen die schnell verscheißen durch das hohe Gewicht, bei der Automatikversion legt ein defekter Bremslichtschalter das ganze Auto lahm :-)
Great number plate you have for a 4x4
really like your optimism and passion for this car, enjoy it and thanks for sharing your expertise :)
You are welcome.