LOKI: Kang Master Plan Explained! What Was He Who Remains' Trick?
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He Who Remains is a variant of Kang the Conqueror, who has now overtaken the TVA in Loki Episode 6 and is positioned to be the new big bad of the Marvel Cinematic Universe behind titles like Spider-Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, perhaps even the WandaVision post-credit scene. Erik Voss explains what Kang's ultimate plan is, and why he's most afraid of a Spiderverse crossover in No Way Home.
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Epic
Noice
What’s up my nerd babys
Kewl
kang gang!
One way or another, Loki always introduces us to the main MCU villain
Glorious purpose
@@farhanwiriasubranta3437 😂😂
Mischievous god
Right! Maybe he will see Galactus in his next season.
He is the catalyst of all change in Norse mythology
Us: Get mobius a jet ski!!!
He who remains: GROW UP!!!!!
Us again: Hopefully he will get it by season 2 and say WOW
shoulda both killed kang and made sweet love
@@Douglas_Reuber 😳😳
@@snigdha8404 Better Loki gives it to him as a gift then he says wow when he sees it
After reading your comment: “Quick, someone grab me my bathing toaster”
Wednesday is in two days. And it feels weird not expecting a Loki episode.
I know but we just have to wait a bit longer one the 11 what if starts
We get an Assembled episode of Loki I think
These shows should be at least 8-10 Episodes or 2:30:00 Movies. 6 Is just enough to get you really excited and then it ends. Boo!
cry
Marvel has really been keeping that week to week anticipation exciting in a way I haven't felt in a while
In Chess, a Gambit is essentially a sacrifice of a piece for compensation elsewhere…so sacrificing he who remains for long term benefit (for kangs) definitely makes sense
we wuz kangs n shit
@Xeta why are you being racist
@@smashypeople why are you being racist
@@defsouul3127 context brother, context.
Theres also gambits where you blunder your queen for.... you blunder your queen.
Kang is easily going to be the most interesting and well thought of character in mcu history. Going to be amazing for us fans to watch ! Love you Erik
I hope doctor doom is comparable though!
All I hope, is that his character is well written.
@@bookeblade exactly, cuz he has soooo much potential, but he can also become shitty if they dont think everything thru
@@WonkelDee I am hoping to for an interesting Doom but it will depend on the writing and the actor who brings the character to life.
Agree thanos is not even close to kang’s planning and power
Honestly, I think it comes down to what he says to Loki; "Interesting that your mind goes (to manipulation)". The greatest deceit he could pull would be to tell nothing but the truth. And I think that's what he did.
I think that was the biggest twist for me, you mean Miss Minutes little cartoon was the truth? I don't think any of us expected that be the case. We were all thinking it was a lie, there had to be something else going on. Nope, it was the truth.
@@andmicbro1 Totally! Which is also why I think they didn't need to spend SO much time on explaining the same thing again. Basically, he could have said: "well, apart from the Timekeepers thing, Miss Minutes was telling the truth! And also, I have super evil variants".
marvel just set up a supervillain that they can build on in infinite ways simultaneously
The one movie and done villian issue is basically not possible here.
Thanos: I'm inevitable.
Kang: hold my apple.
Kang - zips back in time and drowns him in his childhood bathwater
@@misterFunktastical lol that would create another branch though
@@suchethbhargav0986 there was a great explanation on why you can't do that having to do with Adam Warlock
@@suchethbhargav0986 But it would be a damn good one!
@@rondiggity1677 who is Adam warlock?
Thanos was about overpowering ppl. Kang is going to be about out-thinking ppl.
That’s why I think phase 4 will be so good. A lot more to the story than brute force
Thanos also outsmarted people. He's considered to be extremely intelligent in the comics, and still to a high degree in the MCU. His entire plan was predicated on his ability to think years ahead and foresee obstacles. The Avengers literally had to time travel just to stop him. Thanos just also happens to be incredibly strong, so I can see how people would overlook his intelligence.
@@matador7457 Of course Thanos is smart, he just also had a huge army. Kang is dangerous in a different way is all.
@@matador7457 oh I’m not overlooking his intelligence. Just from the movie standpoint, they made Thanos more of a brute than anything. I think they were priming us for more of an intellectual battle from phase 3 to 4. Loki and Wanda vision gave us a good amount of “weird science?” to get us ready for more of that style of movies if that makes sense.
And I can’t wait.
so Loki should be good on explaining everything he knows to Dr. Strange 😂
Loki should ask Luis to help him explain
After falling for another 30 minutes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Recreation of that Banner scene reporting to Dr Strange about Thanos, freaked out
Except this Loki doesn’t know dr strange he meets him in infinite war
@Benjamin Cohen yes the writer who wrote Loki is also helping out woth writing Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Maddness
Option A: kill Kang, setting the stage for another Kang to take his place
Option B: overthrow Kang, allowing the TVA to continue operating under someone else’s leadership
Option C: do nothing, keep Kang in power
It’s a lose-lose-lose
Option C would make most sense because multiverse started branching out before Sylvie kills Kang which means it was going to be “Free will” if they hadn’t kill Kang and Kang’s plan to get killed and let other younger Kang take over would not work out
A good lesson for people to learn. Or as Star Trek called it, "The Kobayashi Maru Scenario". I would love to have seen Federation Loki's solution to it.
His plan was that both Loki and Sylvia control his throne and he would die in piece instead they messed up
@@jaynishdesai1839 Kang can control it.
@@tablamasters6262 even if lokis took the throne nothing would change... lokis can either shackle free will like he who remain did or unleash the multiverse and starting another multiversal war...there is no win
Now that theres a multiverse, the fast and furious franchise can crossover and defeat kang with the ultimate weapon! Family!
🤣🤣🤣
I'm just terrified at the thought of 2 or more Vin Diesels meeting up. I think that would be the equivalent of splitting a photon particle. That is to say, I got no idea, but know enough to understand it's probably not good for me.
😂😂😂😂
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there is a kang variant who just got killed by the family word
What if the Nexus event when Loki and Sylvie held hands was because they were growing a bond and may not betray each other when Kang needs them to in the end
Correct
Its Kang's plan all along
I like this idea. It makes sense. My only question is, wouldn’t the apocalypse nexus event mean they would have survived the destruction? I mean thats the reason why they go to the apocalypse events. It all gets destroyed so changing it means nothing because it will be gone soon. Why did they cause one if they were just about to die?
@@markchristianfernandez483 nope...needed them to reach the end...that's it...lol
@@markchristianfernandez483
🎵🎶It was Kang all along 🎵🎶
"Kang's Gambit" has a nice ring to it
I wonder when Gambit was inserted into the script. Cross-pollination.
Kang clan
thatll be the name of this saga’s closing avengers movie
@@brownie3454 haha wow thats totally possible
Like literally
It's easy, Marvel is going to bring Loki back into the cinematic universe after season 2 of Loki to help the Avengers face Kang.
100% I really think they'll actually push and get Loki season 2 out before Multiverse of Madness and season 2 will end with Loki jumping into that universe.
Go Cubs
I agree but I was very happy Thanos got him outta there
what Avengers? 😛
Johnathan Majors is gonna kill this role and ascend to stardom like most Marvel actors and actresses.
Yes he will
That is absolutely happening!
He didn't just nail it, he re-created it and gave the role life, ingeniously.
Yup it's right there in his last name.
Yea
I can't get over how this Kang's backstory(specifically the one explained in ep. 6) is just like Rick Sanchez, who has a council and backstory inspired by Kang, and they now share writers.
Maybe the evilest Kang has a citadel with many Alioths around it getting tortured.
@@Caskiz yeessss lololol
@@Katie-ly2mu i’m glad i’m not the only one who noticed the similarities lol
And The council of ricks was inspired by the council of Reeds from the Fantastic Four.
@@Davis-H fr? Source?
I think I believe him too!! He is tired of the monotony same outcome every time BUT if he brings his other variants then he knows things will "spice up"...
I'm not sure you understand what's going on at all.
His own variants that he worked so hard to contain?
The timeline started branching because the agents of the TVA were starting to question what they were doing. They stop pruning branches, branches... branch! That's why the timeline branched BEFORE Kang was killed.
yes
It started branching after Kang and the Lokis crossed the treshold.
@@langletprolet8378 And what exactly is the threshold?
@@bordan1311 Crossing a threshold as a literary term just means cross from one space to another (often a door). In this case they crossed from a predetermined and scripted set of events to infinite possibility.
My question is, how did our loki ended up in another tva timeline. I mean, what happened to immortus' tva, did they disappear or what.
So I have a thought: what if the nexus event on lamentis wasn't about the two Loki's look and feelings towards each other, and that fact that they were about to die was the cause? He who remains did say he planned and paved it all right? So them dying would create a nexus event.
That's the most sensical hypothesis.
Someone who thinks
Exactly. Whose to say that being a part of a nexus event doesn’t prevent the creation of a nexus event. The multiverse hurts my brain.
That's why marvel is releasing what if
Doesn’t explain why the branch didn’t appear until they held hands though
I’m so freakin pumped for where Marvel is taking this phase. It’s going to be multiverse breaking haha.
Ngl i thought mcu will die out after avengers endgame cause the hype was so big, but now im even more excited than when i was waiting for endgame
@@sl9wdive same lol, never expected the crossovers to continue post endgame
Ik im suppose to 'not like' kang for everything hes done but god dammit that guy's charming😂😂
Oh he's gonna be my favorite now 🤣
The actor murdered his scenes. Great build up, barely any action but his warnings are terrifying and mysterious, making us want more but also leaving us mostly satisfied with the twist.
@@rick6083 definitely😂😂
@@sithsaiyan4529 oh jonathan killed it!! I hope we'll be able to see him again soon.
You may not find his other variants so charming…they more than likely won’t share the same carefree personality. We thought Thanos was ruthless…just wait until we see the numerous Kangs in action 😬😬😬
All I can say is he made his performance was scary and brilliant
I never felt any fear. Maybe a sort of resigned hopelessness, but not fear. Brilliant acting though, no doubt.
I think, to explain his delight after the threshold was crossed, he was just very excited and happy about getting to experience the unknown again. Or, at least it’s part of it. You can tell that afterward, as well, when he stopped being the “know it all” of the room, his speech became more stuttered and unsure, yet he was giddy.
The scene where Kang and the lokis have the conversation about the timeline is by FAR my fave scene of the whole Loki series. Jonathan does an amazing job, the balance of evil, lunacy, wit, outsmarting is fantastic. It really makes the two lokis so powerless and question everything they've been through. Although our Loki seems more developed than Sylvie, as I think lokis past experiences, relationship with Mobius and seeing his future humbled him. Whereas Sylvie was hellbent on revenge so was more rash and evident of a past Loki! Fab stuff, I'm glad Marvel are really starting to develop characters more. It's made me become a big fan of marvel when I used to think it was just crashing and bashing movies 😂
I just want to see Sylvie and Lokie acting all lovey dovey to weird Thor out
That would be fun to see!😂
@m_train1 why not both?
@@nasis18 Now that’s amazing
@@nasis18 that's good shit, pal!
Hot 🥵
I always figured the timeline started branching because he who remains had only written time up until that point. After they cross the threshold, it’s chaos and the timeline naturally starts branching
I think Kang’s plan was to never give up control, he just wants/needs certain events to occur so that he can refresh himself to rule longer. I think he needed two of the most untrustworthy, selfish persons to appear before him to guarantee his plan succeeds.
The best part of the episode is he who remains calling Sylvie a Hypocrite
Lol yea
Grow up
@@kornflak4s ?
@@ThatOneGuyFIFA GROW UP THATONEGUYFIFA
@@Augustin54 lol
I get what NR is saying- he's playing both of them. But I do think so. He's just stating the facts. He doesn't have to tell them any of that. He could have call Revvonna up to the big leagues. Unless he wanted to die and it looked like he didn't mind that at all. As long as he lived juggling the multiverse, he looked like he was done with it all anyway. But giving Revvonna that assignment seems to be a back up plan just in case they didn't take the job. A contingency plan. He is a genius, you know?
Dawg are we watching the same video? 💀
@@trevorphilips9399 yes but delusional people read into things that was never even mentioned
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 what are talking about. His comment makes perfect sense. Kinda rude to call him delusional only because he has another opinion
@@MatureManure mmm no. A lot of what he's talking about wasn't mentioned. That's why this other person I replied to said "are we watching the same video" because that wasnt said and theyre like I agree that this blah blah blah when that wasnt brought up to agree to
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 it just seems so convoluted and overexplained, I can’t understand a single thing the sentence structure is appalling lmao
I think when He Who Remains took his temp pad off his hand and pushed it to the edge of his desk he knew Sylvie would grab it. He knew the precise spot where to place it as he knew exactly how their fight was going to go. Everything was all according to Kang...
Loki officially a city boy after Sylvie doing him like that. It always takes ONE to create a dog 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Always
I hope they aren't gonna leave young Loki in void alone. Boastful Loki sold him out.. Classic Loki isn't around. Just saying .. We need some young avengers!! Just a boy and his alligator...
You mean just an alligator and his boy...
I don’t think young avengers would happen. Does anyone want a movie based around a bunch of kids?
@@BeanstaIkk age them up a little .. I would
@@TlairAddicted how old though? I think teen years would be a mistake, but ages 19-23 would probably be cool.
@@BeanstaIkk I agree 100% unless the casting for each character is as good as IT and there’s a great script for them it’d more than likely be mid.
Immortus tells them "this is wild" when he sees them together because this is the first time he's seen two versions of a character other than himself make it that far to the citadel at the end of time.
Very much like Neo meeting the Architect.
When Kang says, *"I'm older. Older than I look."* I fell in love!
Jonathan Majors is brilliant, a master at his craft and with that line, and the way he looked when he said it, *I FELT every one of the million years he's lived.* Just...Wow!
Since my first viewing, I cannot see that moment 'He Who Remains' points at Loki saying "we've all done terrible.." without seeing Heath Ledger, as the Joker, in the scene from 'Dark Knight' where he performs a magic trick involving a pencil. Majors' entire performance is fantastic! Can't wait to see what he does with this role.
MCU characters are chess pieces to Kang. Whatever the Avengers will do to stop him, Kang will always wins.
Sylvie triggered the multiverse > Kang started multiversal war > One of Kang's variant win the war and isolated the timeline > Sylvie started the multiverse again > Repeat.
It's a closed loop.
Loki got it too but it didn't matter
nope...there was always a multiverse.
Its like itachi's izanami
Its a fixed loop
ENTER DR. STRANGE.
So Loki, in becoming a better, more honest and heroic person, got outplayed by the Kang Gang. This is why he needs to appreciate and hold onto ALL his strengths, including his manipulative, scheming mind.
This phase 4 and it's future events are gonna be lit! What a time to be alive and be part of this awesome cinematic journey. I wished my dad was still alive to experience this..he loved growing up as a kid with some of his beloved marvel characters. Sadly he only managed to see through Phase 1 only..but i loved seeing the kid side surfaced when he was watching it...
Feel that too. My brother only lived to see Spiderman. He would have loved seeing Marvel really cut loose.
I just love how the house at the end of time is a Sanctum Sanctorum, and no one is talking about it.
But what if the anomaly on Lamentis was so critical because they weren‘t supposed to die in this apocalypse. I mean he who remains explained to them that they were destined to reach his castle. shortly before loki and sylvie dying the spike goes wild because its against the sacret timeline am i right?
That’s what i thought, too. He who remains carved the path. So he could‘ve just created a Nexus event to save them and make sure they actually reach his citadel.
agree
They must all fear Lokigator for Lokigator has existed since the very beginning of time, and he shall be there at the very end of days.
Lokigator is pulling all the strings in the MCU
His Telepathy has evolved past our comprehension
HAAAA I see you
Cant wait to see the Kang Gang and the Lang Gang in Antman
The Wu-Kang Clan?
That's why "He who Remains' choose these Lokis , they could help him, he weeded them out and it was Sylvie and Loki, different and the same, but when they held hands it changed the plan, he doesn't know exactly what will happen.
Yup. THAT is the reason he was happy. Because for the first time in a long time he didn't know what was going to happen and he could just relax and let things play out without his meddling. I don't think there was actually any deeper, more nefarious meaning behind his acting pleased.
@@jessereichbach588 I think that the reason he was okay with the whole thing is because he wins either way. He set it up so that he lands on top no matter whar
He who remains be like: "An apple a day keeps doctor strange away"
He wants to be a gardener and grow some branches.
Ba-dun-tss.
We should make a petition to see Kang and Thanos working on a farm.
I think "he who remains" Kang wanting to assist a "younger, hungrier" Kang doesn't really make. Why would he go through the trouble of attempting to have Loki and Silvi take control instead. Is it suppose to be like 5 dimensional chess, just has to many contradictions
Yea. The reason he was HAPPY at the end is because, for the first time in a long time, he truly did not know how things would play out, what would happen. On top of that, he could relax for the first time in who knows how long, which was probably a fairly stressful lifestyle previously.
@@jessereichbach588 I honestly think he did that on purpose. He was able to manipulate everything up to the threshold, including their conversation. So he set up a string of dialogue that would lead to two outcomes he could be satisfied with. Although it is possible that he was just toying with them and would have killed himself anyways
There has got to be a bigger threat to his rule that he's willing to restructure like that. He was playing them both but he also seemed like he was pushed into a corner. Why else would his offer be so different from the one Miss Minutes gave them.
@@lightspark7820 you're reading too much, he was just tired, reaaaaaally tired about everything
@@Velociraptour The Miss Minutes offer could have been a test of "worthiness". To confirm their motivations and possibly, to push them to self realization of their motivations and perhaps to question their own future.
I think the nexus event was that the Loki’s where about to die. It said what makes a loki a loki is not dying, but surviving. The loki’s where actually going to die though, and then the timeline wouldn’t have broken up and created a multiverse, meaning nobody would replace kang
Sylvie: *kills He-Who-Remains Kang*
Dr. Strange: *inhales cigarette profusely*
🤣😂
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Did anyone notice that he who remains was eating an apple. Similar in ways to the apple in Doctor Strange when he was playing with it with the time stone also. Strangely in connection to an apple he gives loki and sylvi 2 choices similar in the bible of "free will" where in connection loki and sylvi is like Adam and eve and Jonathan is like the serpant. Strange or coincidence??
Big mama also hold an apple in mgs4
It's too obvious to be a coincidence.
it`s doctor....
strange
I think it's pretty much cut and dry my friend. Kang was protecting the multiverse or at least he thought he was. He was tired and ready to move on, and was fascinated that it was because of two Loki variants he was going to be set free from his task. He also knows that his good self will eventually return even if it's another 1000 years from now.
I have thought. It might be crazy. Here it goes:
Kang "He who remains in Loki" says he is old despite his looks. It seems he does want to be killed by Sylvie. So the sacred timeline breaks. And mutliverse war breaks out. And eventually an younger Kang variant (like young loki in the series) comes back and sits in the void creating TVA again and again and it goes. It happens again and again like a cycle.
Johnathan Majors stellar performance in the episode is something we’re going to look back on in 2-3 years and wonder how different and diverse he was able to act. Unbelievable
They mentioned out of everyone pruned or coming thru the TBA, that Loki was the most seen/person to come thru there. Well, according to Owens character. So Loki was needed and or would be or possibly be one important enough to stop him.
Loki second season: Loki's Kang Quest
Yeah, I think that is the plan. Unlikeliest hero against Kang.
Literally cannot wait to see Jonathan Majors again as KTC ( Kang The Conqueror) in Antman and the wasp Quantummania, we are in for a insane and cosmic ride with the Quantum Realm
Thank you for explaining what KTC meant 🤣
Why did you abbreviate Kang the conqueror then write it in full?😂😂😂
I've been wondering how exactly the MCU plans to bring down Kang, what would be the Endgame against him, and I think you just hit upon it. The idea that multiple variants working together, instead of just for themselves, fighting against a Kang or multiple Kangs. I could see an end-battle with Kang being like the reverse of AntMan's fight with Ghost, with the variants collaborating to force the multiple Kangs into one reality / timeline where he loses.
the No Way Home prediction in this is absolutely insane
??
Most deadliest "See You Soon" delivery I have seen, when clearly it was delivered with a smile 😍
I got a few more questions.
1. if the TVA was created by he who remains, how did he managed to disable any kind of magic and powers? Like the Infinity Stones as paperweights.
2. what was the point that they we‘re trespassing leading to the branching timeline? Was it a point in time? Wich wouldn’t make sense since he who remains was surprised but should have known about this if he had the script of everything happening. So it must‘ve been a point of action. Something that happened and destroyed the sacred timeline. Like a Nexus Event passing the red line. But what was that Nexus event? Maybe Wanda stretching reality to hard?
3. in the final fight right before Loki disarms himself did he just teleport? Is that a power Lokis have? Oooooor was it a projection and Loki was actually elsewhere?
Old Loki did create a portal. It’s not something out of Loki’s abilities. The TVA could simply have future tech that negates magic abilities and items.
Everyone is just kicking this horse till no theories remain.
I feel Loki is gonna be the central figure in the future of the MCU, like Tony was.
Love this channel. Unlike some of the other UA-cam offering out there, You present a better take on these Disney + programs. Keep doing what ya do. You make people think!!!!
genius video Erik! 👏👏👏 didn't see that angle. thank you for enlightening us on this, it makes a lot of sense.
I like this explanation the most cause it makes the finale episode make the most sense. I couldn't wrap my head around why that thunder clapped and the timeline started to break apart before Sylvie killed him. Or as to why his script with their dialog on only went to certain point and he could not longer see further.
Tbh i thought it was bcause he will die
I love how much of a stark contrast Kang will be to Thanos.
Thanos was behind the scenes most of the time, until he emerged like a storm. It was triumphant when they defeated him.
Kang is different. Hes being shown and displayed early on. While we know "Kang the Conqueror" is showing up in Antman. The fact that his casting for Loki was kept hidden makes me think we may see him in even more films. And it doesn't have to be just Kang, there are an infinite amount of variants of him to worry about. The idea of a "constant and visible threat" in more than one film, for the next decade, excites me in a different way. Who knows what the climax will be (other than, you know, xmen and fantastic four being involved inevitably).
such a great video!!! you’re right, Kang could not stay as ruler as soon as Loki and Sylvie had their connection. the finale may have been mostly talking, but it’s all well crafted and very intentional
I think this Kang's plan and motives are quite simple. I think he wants Chaos, after essentially "Bore-ifying" the universe into one tedium of beurocracy. His two options both lead to Chaos, on the one hand you have him dead and the universes branching, on the other hand you have two beings that both thrive on mischief and causing chaos for the sake of chaos in charge of his "order" both options are chaotic and honestly both would lead to his variants eventually being allowed to proliferate... but in any case the real "gambit" was the message or file that he sent via Miss Minutes back to the TVA, whatever happened with the Lokis in the Citidel, whether she'd kill him, or they'd take over, or their combined presence would cause a branch spontaneously, whatever those 3 outcomes, it would be chaos.
4:53
It's connected to wandavision last episode
Wanda becomes nexus being at that moment
That's the moment multiverse started
Thats why before Kang was killed Sylvie pushed loki into another multiversal TVA
My perspective
Apparently, the season finales of WandaVision and Loki sync up at around 27 minutes in.. He Who Remains reacts to Scarlett Witch powering up and again when he drops the ball or whatever.
1:51 Great video. I thought his apparent delight was more an expression of relief to be honest.
I clearly sensed the sarcasm in the option “orrrr YOU just run the thing!” Like anyone would be delusionally narcissistic enough to think they could successfully command the ultimate power over every second of time that ever was or will be. Oh wait, it’s Loki
Saw a page where he played Wanda vs Agatha and it matched up perfect with when Kang knew they crossed the threshold. Pretty sick if its tied together
Loki took place BEFORE Wandavision, so it very well might.
i like this
He Who Remains didn’t say what he would do if Loki & Sylvia took over the TVA.... retirement home?? I think it was all a lie.
I wondered about that too
It seems odd that he would just walk away from his entire villain-y masterplan of ruling over time... to what? Go relax elsewhere? Not likely! Death was the only option in his mind from the very beginning, I think 🤔
@@serenity4eva89 Your exactly right, there was only ever one option and that was the multiverse opening up to pave the way for the next Kang
@@serenity4eva89 then why didn't he committed suicide?
Maybe he'd jump into the timeline on a remote planet and run a farm just like Thanos did.
I think he’s definitely up to something because why contact Renslayer if you’re gonna give it up
yes, this. this is how I see it. well done crafting it into a narrative that is easy to understand.
Love all the videos NR!!!! You guys rule!!!
After giving the first bogus offer, Kang said he knows that's going to happen, but he still needs to mentally prepare them.
Then he gives a second offer and explicitly plans the seed of mistrust in Sylvie: "Do you think you could trust him?". The second offer, for the Lokis to overseer the TVA together is likely also bogus, as Sylvie in all likelihood won't accept it.
Whatever was the plan one thing is certain to me: Kang has baited Sylvie.
Loki turning down Miss Minutes offer to be king kinda proved he was trustworthy so idk why it was put in there
Thanks for the video
Great stuff as always
No stopping the Boss Voss. He gonna collect those eggs like its a Holiday
Um his delight was clearly off the fact that he was old and over it .. he took delight in what would happen because that's never happened, really not that hard to grasp .. at least that's what I thought about that scene
The last time he probably didn't know what would happen was millions of years ago. Like watching Friends reruns for forever, you like it but it can get old.
it is. It's liken to somebody who after a long decades of hardwork. His day of retirement has come. Imagine consolidating and guarding the sacred timelines for years even eons. HWR pretty much happy and content and he's obviously aware that his variants would likely be encountering Sylvie and Loki at some point. So in a sense he still lives on.
This is so interesting. Great deductions Sir!
Excellent as always!
Actually when hewhoremains says "we just crossed the threshold" on that exact time wanda became scarlet witch, a nexus being that's why he wasn't able to know what gonna happen. Everything always made a video about that
What's a nexus being?
Loki, Mobius, Hunter B-15 assumed that the “never before seen” timeline branch was because of the connection between Loki and Sylvie. I wonder if the severity of the branch was because SyLki were about to die on Lamentis, and if they died this would alter the plans of He-Mortis Who Remains.
GAAAAAH THAT LAST PART THO WITH THE ROLLCALL OF THE NEXUS VARIANTS HNGGGG GIVES ME SHIVERS
This made so much more sense! Thank you
I don’t know if I agree with the idea that He Who Remains is trying to have a younger Kang Replace him. This character from this episode is also based on Immortus, whom became mostly a pacifist after a lifetime of war, and isn’t necessarily a fan of Kang (his younger self). In the comics, the Council of Kangs exist to preserve what they believe to be the optimal timeline (Kang Prime becomes Immortus and thus keeps the timeline on the correct path). Here I think Immortus/He Who Remains does what he does to preserve the timeline in which he won the Multiversal War, and thus he can trust himself to avoid the most destruction (“This is the only way”). But because there are so many Kang variants, that victory is entirely up to chance (or at least it was before he started manipulating it), and thus with his death, we get a slightly different timeline, maybe one in which he is Kang for longer (It’s unclear whether the version of Immortus we saw in this episode actually spent time as Kang, but maybe he will end up right back in the same place as Immortus).
I think that the VTA mind wiping of their agents is an evolution of the red room mind control program. Is funny that Drakov office have a similar aesthetic with the TVA.
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8:35 you nailed it right at the end
It seems to me that the reason the timeline splits again is while both lokis exist with he who remains at the end is because each Loki represents a probable path to move the timeline forward whereas before kang was always determining the flow of time without any consequence. since Loki represents chaos one Loki represents a positive outcome while the other takes the negative. But much like beliefs in polytheism and Buddhism existance is cyclical so while the negative outcome spawns chaos it also directly leads to kangs reincarnation as an inevitable force. But we also have to consider that the timeline splits at the end meaning that there's a universe in which kang did not die and still remains potentially in a uni ers where loki and Sylvie are side by side. Like in the original comics. We also know that each time the timeline cycles through that. variables change meaning kang might be expanding the timeline to procure more resources and eventualities that lead to one timeline continuing. It's almost as if this version of kang is tapped out of creative content and needed the lokis to present some duality in order for time to move further or reincarnate.
My guess for Immortus is that he wanted Kang Prime to come back into power. He defeated Kang prime in the past whether it be with Alioth or by other means and decided to preserve the timeline. After millions of years of fighting to preserve the timeline and watching things go by he realizes that he is doing exactly what Kang Prime wanted to do but from the shadows instead of front and center as a conquorer and wanted to get Prime back in charge so he made the timeline progress for however long so that it would lead to both Lokis coming to the castle and killing him and putting Kang Prime in power. Maybe the nexus event that caused Sylvie to be sidelined by the TVA wasn't a nexus event at all. Maybe that is when Immortus realized how to put Prime back in power and that was the first domino to fall to ensure that. Sylvie wasn't the nexus event, but Immortus objectives were.
I love this …
I love this… love love love…
You did it again Erik!!!
This video is the exact reason why i love this channel 👍
I clicked faster than the marvel intro can start
So in the next Avengers movie we'll have Wanda, Dr. Strange, multiple Lokis, multiple Spider-Men (and women?) and maybe some other variants of other characters.
Nicely done👍🏼