First Hit Song using a Drum Machine?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- there are earlier songs with drum machines but "Family Affair" released in 1971, was the first one to go to Number 1. Sly & The Family Stone Episode with Special Guest Novena Carmel
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There is not NEARLY enough appreciation for Sly & The Family Stone. Absolute legends
That Muhammad Ali clip doesn't help, but I'm wowwed. I'm about to look into Sly's music/writing RN because this clip
But people talk about them all the time?
That's like saying Dwyane Wade is underrated
Yeah music fans talk about them sure but the general public not so much
Without Sly, there Is No SoulQuarians...in my humble opinion...
@@brianking2365 Who cares what normies are doing?
Sly Stone is a icon and a pioneer.And at a Award Show in 1994, Prince said that Sly Stone was one of his idols. And fun fact: Micheal Jackson purchased many ATV catalogs. Master tapes. He gave two legends their masters for free. Little Richard and Sly Stone.
Sorry he didn't gave sly his master.Sly was trying to reach out MJ to them to get em back, by the time he could Michael suddenly passed away and it was over .
That's why he was homeless with no money.
And that's why they ended Michael. There were more artists he was going to gift with their publishing and masters.
Not enough adoration for how the most humble person in the shadows who gave the beats its essential mix and gave the beautiful voices and dipped the innovation into the human mind Jehovah God and Jesus Christ gave them all of this no sky or prince or anyone but they so chill and and refuse to take credit ... Praise you Jesus Christ and Jehovah God
No one eve thinks that Jehovah and Jesus Christ are up there dancing to what they gave and made lol😂
@@Ginxs Fairy tales. Throw Zeus and Odin up there too. Might as well.
About time someone give Sly his credit. People in music don't even talk about the man.
Losers don't talk about him. Cool MFs do.
Well, us in music def have a deep admiration for how amazing Sly Stone was, his songs and incredibly funky grooves, but it seems like the general public has forgotten who he is, sadly.
Sly stone will always be a legend. Gen Z better learn about it.
Sly and the Family Stone were one of the main acts at Woodstock.
You can hear Sly Stone in decades of HIp Hop.
Give Sly them flowers!
They do.
He been getting bouquets 💐 for years.. if you know music you know how pivotal Sly was. An Innovator.
💐💐💐💐💐 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Sly and the Family Stone do not get the perks they deserve one of the most Innovative and great groups of the sixties
The highlight is that Sly's daughter is actually sitting in the podcast looking just like him.
Just like him.
Wait that’s his daughter?? 🤯
And she is beautiful.❤
I was thinking that was Novena
Sooooooooo sexy!!!
Don't forget "Rock Your Baby" by George McCrae !! One of the first to use the early Roland drum machine.
😎❤
You are absolutely right…
NO !
@@Chilling4Shillings why no? its the exact beat they play in the clip
@@bigbaby9189 No !
Your right I was thinking the same thing,George mcrae,rock your baby.
This reminds me of how “The Sweetest Taboo” by Sade starts off as well
I heard that too.
TRUTH!!!
War of the Heart as well.
That’s the first thing I heard. Promise is amazing, but everything about Diamond Life was, and is, classic. The lyrics, the voice, the instrumentation. Pure Soul when a lot of 80’s music was washed out
Linn Drum (released on 1982) on that case. #TrumpwillsaveUSAfromSocialism
Lady Cab driver starts off a Linn drum with some of the CLEANIEST snare drumming that you'd ever want to hear........
So I just looked up the release date, it was 1982…
That means that the drum machine he’s possibly using is the Linn LM-2, but most likely the LM-1, which was released in 1980.
Either of those machines truly groove on their own, they feel incredible, so that’s a whole different beast than the preprogrammed box they are talking about in this video.
Prince was the king of killer grooves….
@@TheWorld_2099 Prince first used drum programming on the song Private Joy...if I'm not mistaken 💜
@@gl6996 that’s great, thank you for that tip, I will check that out right now
@@TheWorld_2099 Prince was waaay ahead of others.
@@gl6996 i’m actually shocked that I haven’t checked out the whole Controversy album inside out, but thank you for sending me there…
I’m not sure if you have some kind of that Private Joy might’ve been the first song he recorded, but all of the songs on that record sound like they are programmed / sequenced. There’s just no end to what a groundbreaker he was.
Timmy Thomas, Why Can’t We Live Together was an early track to have the drum machine figured prominently.
That's a close call, 1972.
Wow , yep, another good one.
Tell Them About 👏 IT!!!
JJ Cale recorded Crazy Mama in 1970 with a drum machine.
Sly is the DUDE!!! He used the drum machine so well. Shuggie Otis also used it very well
Maybe some people don’t have the right “team” or whatever (managers,agents,etc.) around them.Other artists seem to have it all.I think greatness is eventually given it’s due,though.🤷♂️🙃💐🥰🙏
The Crazy fact Is that Sly, #TimmyThomas, #GeorgeMcCrae, #ShuggieOtis , #Parliament and #GrahamCentralStation ..All of them They *used the same beat machine MRK* .
Yes, That beat reminds me of Shuggie's XL-30
Deconstructing these songs is beautiful 🎉
Sly Stone is a Living Legend, and I hope that he is doing well and Living his Best Life! Prayers Up!!
Yes prayer all the way up for sly stone
Much love and prayers
"Joy and Pain" by Maze ft. Frankie Beverly employed a programmed analog drum machine (Roland CR-78) beat, layered with live kit, more prominent in the mix, and also predated the Marvin and Prince tunes to which you referred.
Love that tune, will listen out for it. Thanks!
Wow!!! I also recognize this sound in the intro of two songs by Grace Jones: 'Pull Up to the Bumper' and, at a slower tempo, her cover of 'La Vie En Rose'. 🤩
As well as “Rock Your Baby” and “Rockin’ Chair” (George and Gwen McCrae respectively)!
Absolutely…love me some Grace Jones!
true
It's a Family Affair 1971 Sly and the Family Stone ☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️
Do my ears deceive me, or does George McCrae’s “rock your baby” not start with the same programmed drums..
Yes, exactly what I thought when they play the drum machine alone.
XL-30 by Shuggie Otis too
I was going to say RYB, 1974.
Its always cool when you find demonstrations on old preset machines and go like: „wait isnt that. And this… oh!“ 😂
@@Mr.Marbles this is hilariously true.
Automatically in my mind "Why Can't We Live Together" - Timmy Thomas
Sly Stone was way ahead of his time. Sly & Larry Graham created some very memorable sounds in the history of soul music.
Sly and the family stone,legends, inspiration for many
In Time is such an unbelievably funky song
women, take me in your arms, rock me baby, George McRay
Sharing the same brain cells, LOL
That’s the first thing popped into my head . I mean - that’s IT.
Thank you for reminding me of one of my Grandma's favorite songs. Man she would boogie down to that song Rock A Baby. ,"Woman take me into your arms and rock a baby" All original funky beats that made the Greatest musicians of my time, Geniuses like Sly & Prince. These musicians tapped into my Soul like Saints in my heart.❤
@@user-rm4ye3dy7n I remember that 1st Moog synthesizer, (every home town band had 1) with the bossa nova option
That was the song I thought about, then family affair.
He said it was just him BIlly Preston Bobby Womack and his sister.Basically a jam session.
…Sly Stone is the MOST influential musician EVER he changed music 4ever 💯✔️👑…
Reminds me of Blondies heart of glass intro
Heard it right away!
Missy Elliot song intro Work It / Heart of Glass reversed
CR78
Same!
Me also
Understanding how sly overdubbed drums transformed the way I approach drums as a solo musician. There’s a riot goin on is an amazing album
The drums on that album are just so awesome. As is everything else lol
I saw an interview with Sly, where he said he broke three drum machines trying to get it to do something it wasn't designed to do. It worked, he got what he was going for, but that's determination. Keep breaking them until you get it.
Hall & Oates "I Can't Go For That".
Not a lot of conversation is had about just HOW MUCH Prince adored Sly & the Family. From sound design; to conscientious lyricism; to attire; to even band members including women prominently.
Without Sly & the Family, I'm not sure we would have been blessed w Prince the way we knew him.
Mixing black and white musicians together
black musicians can turn any sound into a golden super hit
Sure, if they're the _right_ black musicians.
Wat @@miked1869
What a silly comment.
Is that Novena Carmel?
I believe it is.
That's Sly Stones Daughter.
Morning DJ on KCRW in Santa Monica.
Very cool.
With her fine self
@@bOmBAsTiK You said it!
She is the reason I clicked the shorts and see was mute 😅
She's cute!
Yeah she’s cool. I met her a few times back in like 2016 when she was DJing at the Virgil in Hollywood
to truly appreciate the lineage of what Roland and Roger Lynn has done truly change the landscape of musical over a 50 to 60 year span
It's like watching a lovely Music History class 😊
Sky was a monster!!! A giant creative force! Awe-inspiring human.
George McCrae - Rock your baby
The pattern is played in its native state and then the beautiful music kicks in.
yup
Opening intro of Rock You Baby
Stevie Wonder used the Rhythm King way back in 72 on his Talking Book album , Sly followed it with the Luv n Haight album and then Larry Graham and Graham Central Station followed it ..This was all before Prince ..however Prince was a Sly Stone and definitely a Larry Graham fan ( obviously ) Prince did use the Linn on the Time’s 777-93-11 but it was David Garibaldi ( Drummer for Tower of Power ) who Programmed it for him.
Also on Parliament's 1975 's "Chocolate City " ...
Automatically in my head Blondie- Heart of Glass
That Linn is legendary
One day my customer turned out to be the drummer for Sly And The Family Stone. Really nice guy.
Greg Errico? Legend
Sly is a LIVING LEGEND who deserves totally appreciation
Not as long as the likes of Taylor Swift and Usher are alive....
Sadly not a living legend. Dead legend.
@@KpoojiNah, he's still alive. (Unless he passed in the last week or two and I didn't hear about it.) He just dropped out of the music business and the public eye decades ago.
Note that some of the sweetest analog rhythm units used just one transistor per sound. The Thomas Band Box that was added to organs as early as 1966, and then a 'beat sequencer' of preset rhythms triggered the Band Box. The rhythm head was the Thomas Playmate. Intweresting about the Playmate/ Band Box combo is that it used VCA circuits to get feedback from the organists bass pedal and lower keyboard manual to control dynamics of the beat, to give a real human feel to the rhythm unit. You can assign each drum sound to either the keys or the bass pedals for it's interaction. Before the Playmate rhythm sequencer the organist literally assigned and triggered the drum sounds manually. Crude, but actually very useable, when you hit any key or any pedal then that assigned drum sound would trigger. Grandmaster Flash's first drum machine was a Thomas Bandbox.
Reading Slys book now. He’s Such an icon and pioneer
Sly and the family stone was bad ass.
"Thank you for letting me be myself ,again" 💃🕺
Also George McCray rock your baby
Ahh I thought I had gotten that one by myself. Kudos. I also mentioned Parliament's 1975's " Chocolate City " .
I was thinking the same when they started playing the track. Not the same yet listen to the beginning of Rapture by Blondie. Clem Burke is in the top five drummers in my book. Especially when you hear Accidents never happen and Dreaming.
Yes, 1974 Rock Your Baby!! Family Affair was in 1973❤❤
Timmy Thomas's "Why Can't We Live Together".
Not George. Gwynne
Slightly older cat here.
I’m from the Bronx NY.
The yet to be named foundation of hip hop started with my friends.
My brother and his dance partner (yes there were duo’s in those days) invented that two step ready up move that you see every break dancer do till this day before they hit the floor.
(We laugh at how people don’t believe us. They think that move was created by osmosis.)
We were the kids at the cutting edge of black street culture in the Bronx.
Anyway we would go to this place called “The Shaft.” On Westchester Ave 163st.
The newest records that nobody heard but became iconic would play there.
You’d hear a dope song, talk about it all week, and couldn’t wait to go back to the shaft to hear it again.
The shaft was dangerous and exciting. Step 5 feet away from your gang and you could get your throat slit easy.
Forget about going to the bathroom without 50 guys.
All the gangs in the Bronx went there. But man that place was magical!
One weekend we were there.
This odd strange sound came from the speakers. The first
“Boomp” made the entire party scream “Ohhhhhh”
I’m like “what is this?”
It was family affair.
(This is before 2 turntables! So there was a pause between records. You got to absorb and respond to what you just finished dancing to. Then you found another dance partner when the next banger came on)
2/3 weeks afterwards we found out it was Sly Stone.
Singing with this low gravely drug addicted voice.
“That’s Sly? From Sly and the family stone? What? Why is he singing like that?”
Something about that hissy lofi drum beat just made us crazy.
Because the shaft was so cutting edge we may have heard that song before 90% of everyone in NYC.
This was way before radio played it.
That whole “boom patap
boom boom tap” beat was brand new.
No record sounded like it.
We were like a dancing gang.
People crowded around to see what our crew did on the floor.
Cats from other neighborhoods like Bambatta from the black spades that came from Bronx River projects in the East Bronx would come to the south Bronx to learn what the new thing was. Then hop on the 35 bus and introduce what they learned to their people.
We were the first street celebrities.
I’ll never forget the effect of that record.
This is super cool
Wow. Who knew... Sly is so underrated. Family Affair is very great rhythmic song
Bjork uses that beat almost clean on “I miss you” you can hear it on it’s own on the bridge. What a dope beat.
Very insightful. Both Sly and Prince were ahead of their times musically.
Immediately thought Strafe - Set It Off when I heard the drum beat.
That layering between both the drum machine and acoustic drums are sick ❤.
Well, when you add Sly+James+Jimi= Prince!....#Marinate🤔
Before the song “Family Affair” came out, Sly had a song 1969 called: Somebody’s Watching You”
It was re-released by his Group, “ Little Sister” in 1970 that song featured a Drum Machine,
It’s a Family Affair wasn’t released until 1971
Vaetta Steward was Sly’s younger sister
her friends Mary McCreary, Tremaine Hawkins ( later gospel artist) formed the group “ Little Sister”
That sounded like Blonde's Heart of Glass!
You must be white lol
Thank you! This was freakin awesome.
Phil Collins said "drum machines opened Genesis song writing up", some would say it shut it down.
Sly was brilliant and without him we would not have so much great music and inspiration for other great musicians.
And "Aht of my Hed" by Shuggie Otis
There’s an interesting book I’ve read that dives deep into the history of drum machines. It’s called Dancing to the Drum Machine: How Electronic Percussion Conquered the World
Parliament Funkadelic also blended drum machines with live drums
Yep....Icka Prick on the Electric War Babies album
@@TonyExumJr That too, but I just left a comment about it. Before that there was Parliament's 1975's Chocolate City , with the proto drum machine at the center of some free form funk .
@soltron1324equal opportunity nasty
@@adventuresinmoodcitypod2000now I gotta listen....I didn't know that
When my sister came home from college with Stand my love of Sly and a whole lot of other funk began. Sly Stone was a genius.
Sly has always been my favorite
I love Sly's music. It's part of the mural of sound that my parents, aunts, and uncles played in the background. That clip with Ali though left me bewildered.
Another early adopted of the drum machine was none other than the perfectionists of Steely Dan. Their final album, Gaucho, is entirely drum machine; afaik there is no live percussion on that record. This is one of many reasons that that album is contentious amongst Dan fans
No idea who these folks are but I know they’re my people. Music runs in my veins. I love it. Will listen and research for hours. My most recent discovery that I love is that my favorite artist Mac Miller sample the song “What Shall We Do” by my favorite band Moonchild, on his song Two Matches from Good A:M. The fact my favorite artist sampled my favorite band just makes my dang day!
Luxxury (music producer), Diallo Riddle (comedian and writer) and Novena Carmel (DJ...and daughter of Sly Stone).
Family affair, Rock your baby💯
Larry Graham on bass🤯 for family affair
I love how happy the lady is from talking about music
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sly & the Family Stone is such an originator and powerhouse in funk music, forever beloved!
Very DC Go-GO groove. Nice!
"STAND" is still in my rotation!❤💯👍🏾👍🏾
Sounds like OutKast Humble Mumble
So great, I had to watch it twice. I love the breakdown.
I hear ”set it off “
Prince experimented so much and was so innovative with that drum machine that the creators actually used some of his suggestions in later iterations. He was truly a musician's musician.
Speaking my language …subscribed
'Riot' is so important, it should be in every music lover's collection.
Should probably mention Kraftwerk as the original pioneers
This pre dates even kraftwerk SLY was truly an innovator ahead of his time !!!
@@ronpaizley9349 they were both pioneers for sure, Kraftwerk were around in 1969 amazingly so about the same time
@@haynesy1476 with Subtractive analog Synthesizers.
Kraftwerk was also doing far more complex work than just simole beats
I love the old Acetone sounds. Out of all the old analog machines, those are the samples I go to first when I'm building a beat. Matching it with strong live drums is brilliant. I never knew Sly worked with drum machines. I love Prince's work with the LinnDrum too.
i have that drum machine
🔥 Prince always mentioned Sly as one of his favorite musicians. RIP Prince. 💯
Where’s the full episode?
I think it's on SiriusXM
Prince used a drum machine on 777 9311 by the Time. For years people believed it was live drums and tried to duplicate it.
Ok so that's Sly's daughter. Cool, beautiful. I wasn't around for his heyday but I love & appreciate the music into the future
I’ve always dug Sly & The Family Stone. I shuffle my play list all the time and I get to hear these songs a lot.
Sly actually laid down the beats on it so that he could make the songs alone before bringing it to the band but decided to keep the sound in the end to give it a different flavour. Such a forward thinking album and the production on In Time is also incredibly ahead of its time but was SO influential that it just sounds normal to our ears today.
I love that they pose to be sooooo in love with music that they are swinging to the rhythm even in the interview. I love this ridiculous pose :D
*George Mcrae also used it on "Rock your Baby" in 73'. My Dad was back-up horn player for Sly during 69' tour. I met Sly and Larry Graham that year at the Oakland airport. Before Dad went on tour with them. I was only 8 years old. Still rememberit to this day.*
Y'all doing the Lord's work. Please never stop
My first drum machine was a vintage Roland Rhythm 55 Model TR-55 Analog Drumbox Drum Machine that I got off a buddy in the late '80s.
It sounds very similar to that and apparently were the rhythm units that would come in home organs in its day.
J.J Cale beat Sly and Family Stone by one week in the use of the rhythm box. JJ's 'Naturally' came out 25 October 1971 and Sly's 'Riot Going On' was released 1 November 1971. Both innovative dusty funky classics.
Timmy Thomas deserves a big mention here! His 1971 hit “Why Can’t We Live Together” is only him singing, organ, and drum machine. Same year as “Family Affair”.
Sly needs to be hyped so the younger generation knows what he did. He was soooo good.
Just a snippet and shows COMPLETE genius work.
I'm not a fan (because i haven't heard much) but makes me wanna hear more of the band.
Parliament funkadelic hit song "just knee deep" song was all synthesizer And drum fills by Bernie Worrell.
I didn't know that,that's cool. That's what make music so unique.
'Why Can't We Live Together' by Timmy Thomas released in 1972 is the first hit I can think of which used only drum machine, no human drummer.
Family Affair went to #1 in 1971
@@LUXXURY Didn't that have a human drum track as well though?
Teach!
Family Affair is my fav Sly and the Family Stone song.