I just got emotional while watching the Butterfly reaction. It’s been so long since I listened to the song because of the boycott and watching you two enjoying it (and possibly becoming fans) brought me so much joy. The song message is so powerful and it means so much to all the Loona fans. I hope you will continue to react to Loona
loona setting a score record we love to see it! And the crazy thing is butterfly isnt even their best song. I genuinely think you'd enjoy listening to all their sub unit tracks (especially odd eye circle) theyre underrated masterpieces
Butterfly is the best song not only Loona but kpop in general has. Probably one of the best songs of the 21st century but yeah their entire discography is pure gold.
@@Realunmaker personally butterfly isnt even my favorite title track of theirs (gotta give itto hula hoop) and I think songs like eclipse, sweet crazy love, heart attack are pretty close in terms of quality
Oh woaw I didn't expect you two to be so SO positive to Loona ! I'm so happy Butterfly made you feel that way, ahah YES it's indeed a perfection and a 12/13 song Just imagine how it was for fans when we discovered Butterfly ! On top of the song, Butterfly is the end of a BIG 3 years long arc. The teasers are independant mini-films shot all around the world (like the MV) w/ a part of the members, going back to important places and lore of Loona's pre-debut. And then a teasers called "For all LOONA around the world" got release transforming the fans on a Loona members and transposing all the messages/stories told in the MANY songs/MV of the pre-debut era to lamba people (reason why women all around the world where filmed and put under the light more than the members themselves) Butterfly is a BEAST musically wise, MV wise, but too teasing wise and lore wise. Imo no other songs nor groups (even Loona themselves) could repeat what Butterfly release was. A simple message but carrying perfectly all the weight of the 18-20 MV/song/stories/message released prior. Truly a one of the time in history experience as a fan.
So what's went REALLY close to Butterfly bc it was Loona return after a risk of disband and 1y of hiatus. And the teasers worked the same way and it was epic. Most of Kpop comeback don't need a teaser reaction but I truly think that for Butterfly and So What, to REALLY feel the epicness of those release, reacting to all the teaser before the release is a must If done well, Loona reunion could be as powerful as Butterfly, bc there would be another layer added to the message of the song (lawsuit and everything that happened)
more loona please, eclipse by kim lip, let me in by haseul, so what by loona, favorite by loona, loona dabbles into many different genres executing them super well, they don't have a definite genre but they do have a similar sound that many people consider the "loona sound"
a little explanation on the situation with bbc their label: the members were never paid until the end even though they had been active for 6-4 years (depending on when their solos came out). Their contracts were made when most of them were still very young (some of them 14). They were designed to never let the members actually make money themselves but only help the company evade bankruptcy. In the end the members piled on more and more debt even though they made a lot of money for them. While Loona only ever got medium popularity in Korea and had mostly international fans, Chuu had become very popular in Korea for having a bright and cute personality, appearing on variety shows, having her own UA-cam Channel, etc. Still, she had to give most of the money she earned (way more than in usual Kpop contracts) to her company which was not fair. (I'm not sure this is 100% correct but I think the company got 80% of the earnings but the members had to pay for 50% of the expenses so it's basically impossible to earn money especially with these high-budget videos filmed overseas. Loona had a notoriously high debut budget of 9 million $). Because of this unfair situation, she wanted to change her contract but they did not let her. She had already filed a complaint against her company. So she was on very bad terms with bbc and was sometimes understandibly a little impolite (politeness and power dynamics are culturally very important in Korea). The company used this as a reason to kick her out but all other members followed. In the end all Loona members were freed by court. Besides the fact that the members were never paid, they were also really abused, especially in their earlier years (not being allowed to eat or leave the house, etc.). Orbits (Loona fans) are very well organized and powerful (in a positive and negative sense) and organized a boycott against bbc (the label). Sales for the new album without Chuu that was rushed to cover up the scandal dropped by ca. 98% I think and was cancelled. Orbits stopped streaming their songs, music videos, unfollowed their accounts, etc. and in the end the company had to be shut down. If the members were not paid, the company should not get any money either (the money would just go into fighting the members in court). IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO LOONA THERE ARE PODCASTS ON SPOTIFY WITH ALL THEIR SONGS AND THERE IS A GOOGLE DRIVE WITH ALL MUSIC VIDEOS. (it's not really clear if there is still someone who this money would go to) We could also talk about their intricate concept with Odd Eye Circle, representative colors, the mobius strip and what not but there are hourlong videos on UA-cam that could do that much better.
There aren't many teams that can beat this team with skill. Korea basically has four major entertainment companies. Of course, market dominance is high and talent is plentiful. Nevertheless, if a team from a small company leaves a clear milestone... that in itself is amazing. It means that the team's skills are outstanding. This team is like that.
their debut(?) song hi high is imo one of the best kpop songs to ever been created. its so happy and upbeat and an INCREDIBLE way to introduce themselves. like it got me emotional first listen. PLEASE. its a great song and the mv is incredible and oooooohhh the instrumental. its just so bubbly and happy. it like makes me wanna jump around in joy.
Would LOVE to see your reaction to ARTMS and LOOSSEMBLE to see their new music since the disband! LOONA has been a consistently unique group in kpop, always interesting to listen to. ARTMS in particular has been doing some interesting high-concept work recently.
About the alleged Chuu ‘scandal’ if you can even call it that many orbits and myself included, believe that chuu was unfairly removed from the group because if you watch any content of chuu you genuinely cannot see a girl like her being abusive. She is extremely cherished and beloved amongst orbits. She is the soul of Loona
In addition to more Loona you should check out their post Loona groups ARTMS and Loosemble as well as former members Yves, Chu and Heejin's post-Loona solo tracks.
Now context about Loona, which btw I wish you had done more songs but it's fine kdjdkj Chuu basically looks like the sweetest person on earth, she's one of those people who radiates sunshine, she's the personification of rainbows lol so when those accusations came out from their company absolutely nobody was believing it, and you can say yea you never know how a person really is behind closed door, etc, nope not with Chuu, Chuu is Chuu you know, lol like they couldn't have chosen a worse person to accuse, seriously, lotsss of people in the industry came to her defense, and you just know from how she is and what she says in interviews or shows, it was just highly improvable. Fast forward well she wins the lawsuits, and to this day she keeps winning lawsuits it's become even a meme, turns out their company was extremely abusive towards everyone, they didnt pay Chuu at all or the other memebers since debut I think, not a dollar, did stuff like not letting them get out of the company building and more mistreatment, their story is wild WILD, but we're glad they could get out of that situation and we're getting more projects and great music with them
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the shapes thing relates to subunit stuff. LOONA 1/3 are squares. Odd Eye Circle are of course circles. And LOONA YYXY are triangles with the X placement being the opposite triangle. These shapes are also on LOONA’s official lightstick representing the 12 members. Representative locations such as Iceland and Hong Kong are only relative to LOONA 1/3 who each filmed their solo MVs in a different country (these are those locations.) Fruits are for Choerry (Odd Eye Circle) and YYXY because of lore shit and these fruits are shown in their respective solo MVs. Flowers have to do with one of the versions of their Fl!p That comeback teasers.
You guys should do Kim lip eclipse, Jinsoul singing in the rain, loona odd eye circle sweet crazy love & girl front, Haseul let me in, these are fantastic places to start ❤
definitely, someone needs to make a playlist first song being eclipse by kim lip, singing in the rain by jinsoul, love cherry motion by choerry, girl front by oec (or sweet crazy love) then last being air force one by oec artms
Personally I LOVE Sonatine, it makes me feel like I'm in a winter wonderland somewhere in Europe 😭😭 I listen to it (the boycott version) almost everyday 🩷
HAA Dreamcatcher has ARG's and they are some of the coolest, actually I think they started the trend tbh a lot of groups have kind started doing that, rn for their upcoming comeback they have done so far like a treasure hunt in korea, sent emails to fans with clues and stuff, released some small interactive game and a youtube channel with more clues and lore, they are doing it like no one else and I love it.
The story of the beef with the company is... A lot😅 in short, the contract made it so they never got paid, they were starved, not allowed to go outside more than 20min a day, just...abused. But they kept fighting for the group until the company kicked out chuu, then they said 12 or none, we're out and all filed for termination. The company is still using any money earned through streaming and sales to sue the girls, so it's important not to support their content under that company, but there are other ways to listen to their masterpieces😊 artms, loossemble, chuu and yves (pronounced eve) all released music since!
Great reaction guys. Thank you for your enlightening comments. If you are up to dive deeper into LOONA, I'd like to know your opinions on their debut song 'Hi High' but also on 'So What', 'Why Not', 'PTT' and 'Flip That', each #1 on iTunes title track and album lists and four of their five major awards in a row. BTW, consider that each MV was preceded by several teasers and followed by a dance practice video that shows their complex choreographies and famous synchronicity. This way you can enjoy your LOONA experience much more. Thanks.
Loona a group full of different colors. the perfect blend of everything you want and need in a girl group. its so heartbreaking to see them apart. Loonas lore runs deep. everything has a hidden meaning and everything is connected in someway - thus the symbols colors spirit animals and more. the music is as diverse as the fandom. good music isnt just hard hitting hip hop cool. Loona proves it - just take a listen. its wild that u only did 3 instead of 5 cause they have so many masterpieces. solo - id say either KimLip Eclipse or Haseul Let Me In subunit - OEC SweetCrazyLove or Not Friends a visual eye candy MV group - the all english track Star / the experimental sound Why Not / the summer vibe Flip That / the fight song So What / and finish it off with over the top Paint The Town 🫶 fun fact - each solo debut MV shows each members representative animal - see if you can find and guess them 👍
Might as well go through their entire discography, from their predebut project until their disbandment. I mean what's the harm, just more good music LOL
@@Min-me2sv Yea it is noe of the best ones, but not the best way to introduce them to Loona. Should have started out with group mvs, then subunits and solo songs as own videos!
you should check out sweet crazy love next. one of the best kpop songs ever. feel like you guys will hate the full group loona title tracks based on your taste so i'd mainly just recommend their pre-debut stuff.
butterfly is truly a masterpiece, i don't know if you guys react to dance practices but the dance practice of butterfly is reallyyy good, more LOONA shessh 🗣🗣🔥🔥
So this is the situation with Loona/Chuu and Blockberry Creative. It's not ALL the details but definitely enough to let you know what happened: Basically, like you saw in the bias ranking, Chuu is the most popular member of Loona and ngl...she was far more popular than the others by a long shot. Anyways, so because of her popularity in Korea, she was always getting booked for solo activities like commercials, collaborations, etc. The problem is, she was not seeing any of the money being made from these solo activities. After years of basically earning nothing, she figured out that Blockberry Creative had essentially trapped her in an abusive contract where the more she worked, the more debt she'd rack up with the company (this would end up being the same case for the rest of the members). After Chuu found out about the contract situation, she filed for a provisional injunction to suspend her contract with Blockberry Creative and partially won. Following the injunction, Loona went on a world tour without Chuu, Blockberry Creative cited that it was due to "scheduling conflicts". Later in the year, Blockberry Creative released a statement saying they were removing Chuu from the group due to “violent language and misuse of power” and "violating terms of her exclusive contract". Up until this point everyone knew Chuu as the "happy/sunshine" extrovert that was sweet to everyone and could basically do no harm; that's her brand and it's why the public loves her. So, when those “violent language and misuse of power” accusations were brought up, Chuu denied the accusations and everyone called bullshit on Blockberry Creative. People from all over the industry like directors, staff members, dancers, basically anyone that had ever worked with Chuu, INCLUDING other Kpop idols, came to her defense. After the removal of Chuu from the group, everyone found out about the abusive contracts and in order to move away from that negative press, Blockberry Creative tried forcing the rest of the members to make a comeback with an album; something they were clearly not happy with. This led to many Kpop fans, not just Orbits (Loona fans), to boycott the company by not buying any albums, streaming any of their music, and sending letters to the Korean court to free the members; most Kpop stores also joined the boycott by not stocking any Loona albums whatsoever. This boycott ended up being so successful that, it led to the cancelation of the comeback and a drop in Loona's sales by like over 90%. In the following months after the cancelation of the comeback, the other 11 members of LOONA filed to suspend their own contracts with Blockberry Creative. And so finally, after months of fighting in court, with some members winning their lawsuit and others having to wait, all the members managed to succeed in suspending their contracts. Also if you're wondering if those fan letters sent to the court did anything, yes they did; the girls themselves said that the letters helped with winning their lawsuits. The boycott is still held up to this day, even after the members are no longer contractually bound to Blockberry Creative. Orbits and other Kpop fans refuse to legally listen, watch, or buy any of the music/content that is under the "Loona" name. Blockberry Creative reps have said time and time again that they'll continue their fight against the Loona members and Orbits simply don't want to contribute a cent to that company. And just so you know how adamant Blockberry Creative are in ruining the members, it's been almost 2 years since the "removal" of Chuu and they just RECENTLY lost yet another lawsuit against the members.
I would really like you to react to enhypen; (drunk-dazed, given-taken, blessed-cursed, bite me, etc) but Kazinho would hate the mv's because they have the typical pause in the song
The Korean of Choerry is 최리, which is pronounced "chay" rhymes with "day" and lee/ri. So it really does sound a lot like cherry. The reason there's an 'oe' is because the vowel being used is a combined vowel (dipthong) of 오 and 이, which correspond to 'o' and 'e' sounds, respectively.
Pls recommends one of these songs for part2 :eclipse - kim lip, singing in the rain - jinsoul (he looks like he enjoys jinsoul's part in egoist so), heart attack - chuu, new - yves, ppt(paint the town), hi high, loonatic, uncover
You absolutely have to check out Xdinary Heroes. They are a rock band under JYP Entertainment and they're REALLY REALLY good! Every single song of theirs is amazing and they have a no-skip discography. I especially recommend Freakin' Bad, PLUTO, Strawberry Cake, Hair Cut... and everything else. My dad also loves them, even though he hates K-pop. They are really just that great!
LOONA isn’t Kpop. I dub them Meta Pop, and the whole of their discography (even post BBC) is ✨ Check out (Heejin’s solo album) classic R&B sound. Compare that with LOOP EP. Loossemble put out 2 nice pop mini albums 23/24. ARTMS and OEC. Diverse sounds and I think that’s what sets LOONA apart from other groups. They left BBC before an album of ballads was supposed to come out. Listen to ZSunder’s mix of LOONA “Hyperballad” which is an imagining of what the complete song might have been. Great stuff. Curiosity is another great track. All 12 members are extremely talented musically as well as great dancers, BBC worked them to death without paying them. And no, it wouldn’t have sounded as good with less than 12. That’s kind of the point. Wait until you hear or see PTT, Hula Hoop, Why Not, Pale Blue Dot, Number 1, Stylish, Heat,and all the sub units esp OEC, “Not Friends” (known as Scorpion Line subunit, awesome video) Honestly, have fun.
i don’t know if you mentioned this but please don’t watch the official music videos (if you didn’t then ignore my comment)! there was a huge issue that happened a couple years ago with the loona members coming out about the company abu$ing them, and we’re boycotting anything official as it gives the company money! you can find more loona music videos uploaded from different people besides the official account
About the 'power abuse' which was part of the reason why LOONA is currently inactive, here is the full list of events (btw this was a huge scandal in 2022/23 & literally every kpop fan was talking abt this, this whole thing was reported everywhere on Korean news & became way bigger than LOONA itself): -late 2022 BBC announced that Chuu would be kicked out of the group due to power abuse -Chuu is loved by fans & other ppl in the K-Pop industry which is why immediately after this, many fans & celebrities and even staff that have worked with her came out in her defense -it was soon revealed that Chuu had been in a legal dispute with BBC for a while now bc of her unfair contract with the company -not to go into too much detail but basically all LOONA members initially had contracts which didn't allow for them to get paid despite doing profitable activities & not only that but their contracts were also set up in a way so that all members actually went more & more into debt with each new comeback -some members had their contracts altered in 2021 but now obviously all of them had big trust issues with BBC, especially Chuu -Chuu is LOONA's most popular member, being known industry wide & being known to constantly be active with ads, mc gigs, her own show etc. but despite all this BBC has been ripping her off for years -Chuu reportedly had filed a lawsuit against BBC in late 2021 & in 2022 the situation between both parties was tense & there were constant rumours of her leaving the company which BBC kept on denying until they announced her removal in late 2022 -soon after this all the other 11 LOONA members filed for contract injunctions while also showing their support for Chuu despite being heavily constricted by BBC -one after the other they won their lawsuits & signed with new companies -btw although a lot of this is still not officially proven, BBC has also been accused of verbally & physically abusing the members -it was also confirmed that a lot of staff members & employees of BBC have also not been receiving any pay for months -again, this whole thing was HUGE & way bigger than LOONA. It was talked abt everywhere & even while it was all going down, ppl were already saying that this would change the K-Pop industry forever
Butterfly is a song that passed even my Kpop hater boyfriend, so I had a feeling you'd like it 😂❤ probably one of the only one's, along with Blackpink's "Stay". The only 2 Songs as of yet that he enjoyed... It's a real struggle 😂
Why do you care so much about how many people there are? Even if there doesnt need to be, just because somethint isnt needed means it should not exist? Its such a close minded thing, they are doing a well job and every girl is doing their job and earning money, that is good, even if it doesnt NEED to be as much
he says that every time there is a group with a lot of members, but personally with loona, they all contribute to the group and have amazing talents that add so much to loona. if only a portion of the members were in this group, it would not feel the same, especially with the concept of them all releasing their own solos as the concept.
THEY NEED 12 PEOPLE TO COMPENSATE THE STRUCTURE OF THE GROUPLORE THAT GIVES IDENTITY TO EVERYONE. INDEED THEIR IDOL PERSONAS ARE CORRELATIVES OF A LORE. AND THEY CONTINUE EVOLVING THEIR CONCEPTS EVEN AFTER BBC IN THEIR RESPECTIVES ROLES IN THE STORY THAT ALWAYS GOES TO UNIFY LOONA. THEY NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT TO KEEP IT PROFIT.
Another fun fact
Gowon is a godmother of Elon musk and Grimes’s baby
the fact this isnt even a lie😭
@@puthaycrabzz7478 it is a fact lol, grimes confirmed it
@@innerdances thats what she said 😭she said that is not a lie
@@rennrenn.3SSS thats what im saying lol, im agreeing w the other comment. also i love wavbits omg
@@innerdances lol my bad, i thought you were correcting the other person. Also i love your profile pic, gowon is my bias
Butterfly is an underrated masterpiece
ikr one of their best songs
@@justinchojadework their best one for me
underrated by who? every orbit loves it
@@Izzacca03underrated in kpop in general it should be more popular
It’s my first Kpop song and instantly fell in love
Yalls confusion with the LOONA lore was so funny 😭
Lots of small things to remember but they make sense later
I just got emotional while watching the Butterfly reaction. It’s been so long since I listened to the song because of the boycott and watching you two enjoying it (and possibly becoming fans) brought me so much joy. The song message is so powerful and it means so much to all the Loona fans. I hope you will continue to react to Loona
RIGHTTT
I started crying and was not expecting that at all. This era was so special and it’s really bittersweet looking back 😭
Me too 🥲🩷
me toooo i started tearing up
now we need the part 2. Loona is INSANE
Odd Eye Circle is a loona subunit with such great music like girl front, loonatic, uncover, and starlight
Uncover is my religion 🛐
And CHAOTIC IS SOOOOO GOOOOD
Don't forget Sweet Crazy Love
@@hallanmarkthe best of all the album
loona setting a score record we love to see it! And the crazy thing is butterfly isnt even their best song. I genuinely think you'd enjoy listening to all their sub unit tracks (especially odd eye circle) theyre underrated masterpieces
Butterfly is the best song not only Loona but kpop in general has. Probably one of the best songs of the 21st century
but yeah their entire discography is pure gold.
@@Realunmaker personally butterfly isnt even my favorite title track of theirs (gotta give itto hula hoop) and I think songs like eclipse, sweet crazy love, heart attack are pretty close in terms of quality
You’ll see why they needed the 12 of them when you watch their choreos haha
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Most satisfying thing to watch ever
Oh woaw I didn't expect you two to be so SO positive to Loona ! I'm so happy Butterfly made you feel that way, ahah YES it's indeed a perfection and a 12/13 song
Just imagine how it was for fans when we discovered Butterfly ! On top of the song, Butterfly is the end of a BIG 3 years long arc. The teasers are independant mini-films shot all around the world (like the MV) w/ a part of the members, going back to important places and lore of Loona's pre-debut. And then a teasers called "For all LOONA around the world" got release transforming the fans on a Loona members and transposing all the messages/stories told in the MANY songs/MV of the pre-debut era to lamba people (reason why women all around the world where filmed and put under the light more than the members themselves)
Butterfly is a BEAST musically wise, MV wise, but too teasing wise and lore wise. Imo no other songs nor groups (even Loona themselves) could repeat what Butterfly release was. A simple message but carrying perfectly all the weight of the 18-20 MV/song/stories/message released prior. Truly a one of the time in history experience as a fan.
So what's went REALLY close to Butterfly bc it was Loona return after a risk of disband and 1y of hiatus. And the teasers worked the same way and it was epic.
Most of Kpop comeback don't need a teaser reaction but I truly think that for Butterfly and So What, to REALLY feel the epicness of those release, reacting to all the teaser before the release is a must
If done well, Loona reunion could be as powerful as Butterfly, bc there would be another layer added to the message of the song (lawsuit and everything that happened)
highest rating for loona deserved.
the sonatine slander omg
only people with real taste and appreciation for music can truly get her
more loona please, eclipse by kim lip, let me in by haseul, so what by loona, favorite by loona, loona dabbles into many different genres executing them super well, they don't have a definite genre but they do have a similar sound that many people consider the "loona sound"
a little explanation on the situation with bbc their label:
the members were never paid until the end even though they had been active for 6-4 years (depending on when their solos came out). Their contracts were made when most of them were still very young (some of them 14). They were designed to never let the members actually make money themselves but only help the company evade bankruptcy. In the end the members piled on more and more debt even though they made a lot of money for them. While Loona only ever got medium popularity in Korea and had mostly international fans, Chuu had become very popular in Korea for having a bright and cute personality, appearing on variety shows, having her own UA-cam Channel, etc. Still, she had to give most of the money she earned (way more than in usual Kpop contracts) to her company which was not fair. (I'm not sure this is 100% correct but I think the company got 80% of the earnings but the members had to pay for 50% of the expenses so it's basically impossible to earn money especially with these high-budget videos filmed overseas. Loona had a notoriously high debut budget of 9 million $). Because of this unfair situation, she wanted to change her contract but they did not let her. She had already filed a complaint against her company. So she was on very bad terms with bbc and was sometimes understandibly a little impolite (politeness and power dynamics are culturally very important in Korea). The company used this as a reason to kick her out but all other members followed. In the end all Loona members were freed by court.
Besides the fact that the members were never paid, they were also really abused, especially in their earlier years (not being allowed to eat or leave the house, etc.).
Orbits (Loona fans) are very well organized and powerful (in a positive and negative sense) and organized a boycott against bbc (the label). Sales for the new album without Chuu that was rushed to cover up the scandal dropped by ca. 98% I think and was cancelled. Orbits stopped streaming their songs, music videos, unfollowed their accounts, etc. and in the end the company had to be shut down. If the members were not paid, the company should not get any money either (the money would just go into fighting the members in court).
IF YOU WANT TO LISTEN TO LOONA THERE ARE PODCASTS ON SPOTIFY WITH ALL THEIR SONGS AND THERE IS A GOOGLE DRIVE WITH ALL MUSIC VIDEOS. (it's not really clear if there is still someone who this money would go to)
We could also talk about their intricate concept with Odd Eye Circle, representative colors, the mobius strip and what not but there are hourlong videos on UA-cam that could do that much better.
this!!
I will always be amazed at what the Orbits managed to accomplish.
THE most successful boycott in history.
There aren't many teams that can beat this team with skill. Korea basically has four major entertainment companies. Of course, market dominance is high and talent is plentiful. Nevertheless, if a team from a small company leaves a clear milestone... that in itself is amazing. It means that the team's skills are outstanding. This team is like that.
their debut(?) song hi high is imo one of the best kpop songs to ever been created. its so happy and upbeat and an INCREDIBLE way to introduce themselves. like it got me emotional first listen. PLEASE. its a great song and the mv is incredible and oooooohhh the instrumental. its just so bubbly and happy. it like makes me wanna jump around in joy.
Omg Loona!!! We need more, eclipse, love cherry motion, uncover, loonatic, girl front, heart attack, new, love4eva, let me in 🛐
Would LOVE to see your reaction to ARTMS and LOOSSEMBLE to see their new music since the disband! LOONA has been a consistently unique group in kpop, always interesting to listen to. ARTMS in particular has been doing some interesting high-concept work recently.
LOONA never disbanded
LOONA never disbanded
LOONA never disbanded
LOONA never disbanded
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ACTIVITIES
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- LOONA (Group):
* All-Members Solos
* Sub-Units: 1/3 - Odd Eye Circle - YYXY
* Group Stuff
- CHUU (Solo)
- LOOSSEMBLE (Group)
- YVES (Solo)
- ARTMS (Group):
* Heejin (Solo)
* HaSeul (Solo)
* Sub-Unit: Odd Eye Circle
* Group Stuff
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RECOMMENDED MV'S
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- LOONA (Group): Butterfly - Paint The Town - So What - Star
* Sub-Units: 1/3 (Love & Live - Sonatine) - Odd Eye Circle (Girl Front - Sweet Crazy Love) - YYXY (Love4eva (feat. Grimes))
- CHUU (Solo): Howl - Strawberry Rush
- LOOSSEMBLE (Group): Sensitive - Girls Night
- YVES (Solo): Loop (feat. Lil Cherry)
- ARTMS (Group): Birth - Virtual Angel (Human Eye Ver.)
* Sub-Unit: Odd Eye Circle (Air Force One)
* Solo: Heejin (Algorithm)
I need more deep dives in these groups so you can see the whole picture 😊
The amount of back story and lore in Loona is unmatched
omg is that kpop sensation loona
part 2 is not enough to encompass all of loona’s discography so hopefully you guys can do a deep dive 🙏🙏
Butterfly is so good and the mv is beautiful and meaningful too 🥺
There’s so much lore you have to go through to understand their representation
If you appreciate musicality and creative direction LOONA is it. #LOONAISTWELVE
About the alleged Chuu ‘scandal’ if you can even call it that many orbits and myself included, believe that chuu was unfairly removed from the group because if you watch any content of chuu you genuinely cannot see a girl like her being abusive. She is extremely cherished and beloved amongst orbits. She is the soul of Loona
sonatine is one my favorite loona singles! i was about 14/15 when it came out and their delivery had really touched me!
In addition to more Loona you should check out their post Loona groups ARTMS and Loosemble as well as former members Yves, Chu and Heejin's post-Loona solo tracks.
Now context about Loona, which btw I wish you had done more songs but it's fine kdjdkj
Chuu basically looks like the sweetest person on earth, she's one of those people who radiates sunshine, she's the personification of rainbows lol so when those accusations came out from their company absolutely nobody was believing it, and you can say yea you never know how a person really is behind closed door, etc, nope not with Chuu, Chuu is Chuu you know, lol like they couldn't have chosen a worse person to accuse, seriously, lotsss of people in the industry came to her defense, and you just know from how she is and what she says in interviews or shows, it was just highly improvable. Fast forward well she wins the lawsuits, and to this day she keeps winning lawsuits it's become even a meme, turns out their company was extremely abusive towards everyone, they didnt pay Chuu at all or the other memebers since debut I think, not a dollar, did stuff like not letting them get out of the company building and more mistreatment, their story is wild WILD, but we're glad they could get out of that situation and we're getting more projects and great music with them
omg didnt expected loona react, it is soooo good for real guys
I cried a lot with Butterfly...
I miss LOONA so much and hurts everyday
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but the shapes thing relates to subunit stuff. LOONA 1/3 are squares. Odd Eye Circle are of course circles. And LOONA YYXY are triangles with the X placement being the opposite triangle. These shapes are also on LOONA’s official lightstick representing the 12 members.
Representative locations such as Iceland and Hong Kong are only relative to LOONA 1/3 who each filmed their solo MVs in a different country (these are those locations.)
Fruits are for Choerry (Odd Eye Circle) and YYXY because of lore shit and these fruits are shown in their respective solo MVs.
Flowers have to do with one of the versions of their Fl!p That comeback teasers.
Girl front, Eclipse and PTT in that order, for the second reaction video ;)
I need the part 2 so bad with FavOrite, Hi high, So what and PTT (I dare say So What has one of the best bridges in kpop)
that bridge gives me chills every time
#STANLOONA
omg i miss that feeling of union in the kpop
ew what the fuck
@@abner3857 SAY IT LOUDER
#STANLOONA
the number of good songs Loona has is ridiculous
you should react to more of them
they marked a before and after in modern music for me, not only kpop
we need a part where they react to the new songs like Loosemble Girls Night, ARTMS virtual angel, Chuu Strawberry Rush and Yves Loop!!
i still regret not being a fan when they were still around the only member I followed was chuu because of her youtube show
You guys should do Kim lip eclipse, Jinsoul singing in the rain, loona odd eye circle sweet crazy love & girl front, Haseul let me in, these are fantastic places to start ❤
definitely, someone needs to make a playlist first song being eclipse by kim lip, singing in the rain by jinsoul, love cherry motion by choerry, girl front by oec (or sweet crazy love) then last being air force one by oec artms
This masterpiece really deserved to receive the highest rating from kpx, it is simply perfect music.
Personally I LOVE Sonatine, it makes me feel like I'm in a winter wonderland somewhere in Europe 😭😭
I listen to it (the boycott version) almost everyday 🩷
we need a part TWO and a loona verse reaction
they definitely needed to be 12! They are 'Girls of the Month'!
HAA Dreamcatcher has ARG's and they are some of the coolest, actually I think they started the trend tbh a lot of groups have kind started doing that, rn for their upcoming comeback they have done so far like a treasure hunt in korea, sent emails to fans with clues and stuff, released some small interactive game and a youtube channel with more clues and lore, they are doing it like no one else and I love it.
And you didn't see the full choreo that makes it even more incredible that Butterfly is
YAYYYYY IM SO HAPPY USE LIKED BUTTERFLY!!!! LOONA IS MY ULT😭😭😭🫶🫶
I THOUGHT THE DAY WOULD NEVER COME I LOVE LOOOONAA!!!
The Loonaverse is vast and complicated and worth every second please enjoy the rabbit hole!
Butterfly was the song that got me into Loona.
The story of the beef with the company is... A lot😅 in short, the contract made it so they never got paid, they were starved, not allowed to go outside more than 20min a day, just...abused. But they kept fighting for the group until the company kicked out chuu, then they said 12 or none, we're out and all filed for termination. The company is still using any money earned through streaming and sales to sue the girls, so it's important not to support their content under that company, but there are other ways to listen to their masterpieces😊 artms, loossemble, chuu and yves (pronounced eve) all released music since!
all of the strings in sonatine are real btw. no digital string, it was recorded by an orchestra
+1 for Kim Lip's Eclipse, Yves's New, and full group's PTT
I cried watching you reacting to butterfly, that song makes me emotional lol
@@angelogabrielpuerto5261 Nb 😂
Great reaction guys. Thank you for your enlightening comments.
If you are up to dive deeper into LOONA, I'd like to know your opinions on their debut song 'Hi High' but also on 'So What', 'Why Not', 'PTT' and 'Flip That', each #1 on iTunes title track and album lists and four of their five major awards in a row.
BTW, consider that each MV was preceded by several teasers and followed by a dance practice video that shows their complex choreographies and famous synchronicity. This way you can enjoy your LOONA experience much more.
Thanks.
Loona a group full of different colors. the perfect blend of everything you want and need in a girl group. its so heartbreaking to see them apart. Loonas lore runs deep. everything has a hidden meaning and everything is connected in someway - thus the symbols colors spirit animals and more. the music is as diverse as the fandom. good music isnt just hard hitting hip hop cool. Loona proves it - just take a listen. its wild that u only did 3 instead of 5 cause they have so many masterpieces.
solo - id say either KimLip Eclipse or Haseul Let Me In
subunit - OEC SweetCrazyLove or Not Friends a visual eye candy MV
group - the all english track Star / the experimental sound Why Not / the summer vibe Flip That / the fight song So What / and finish it off with over the top Paint The Town 🫶
fun fact - each solo debut MV shows each members representative animal - see if you can find and guess them 👍
Might as well go through their entire discography, from their predebut project until their disbandment. I mean what's the harm, just more good music LOL
LOONA never disbanded
That's not enough. Redebuts too!!!
loona are not disbanded
THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH FOR REACTING TO OUR GIRLS!!!!!!!! THEY DESERVE MORE ATTENTION :] ENJOY
Butterfly 🦋 really is a perfect song to me. It makes me emotional sometimes 😭
5:30 dreamcatcher actually has
an ARG for the previous and the upcoming release! It's awesome
The two first songs were so random😭
Egoist is actually not that random since it is one of the best loona's solo songs😔
no fr 😭 a solo (an amazing one but like outta three songs i’d assume they’d be all ot12) and a loona 1/3 bside
@@Min-me2sv Yea it is noe of the best ones, but not the best way to introduce them to Loona. Should have started out with group mvs, then subunits and solo songs as own videos!
it wasnt the best way to introduce loona i feel like you need aquired taste for sonatine especially
LOVE ME SOME LOOONAAAA
you should check out sweet crazy love next. one of the best kpop songs ever. feel like you guys will hate the full group loona title tracks based on your taste so i'd mainly just recommend their pre-debut stuff.
i just started sobbing when u guys played butterfly
Omg please listen to all their music 😭😭🙏🏼
butterfly is truly a masterpiece, i don't know if you guys react to dance practices but the dance practice of butterfly is reallyyy good, more LOONA shessh 🗣🗣🔥🔥
double reaction to ARTMS and Loosemble so u can see the 2 vibes of group the girls split into
So this is the situation with Loona/Chuu and Blockberry Creative. It's not ALL the details but definitely enough to let you know what happened:
Basically, like you saw in the bias ranking, Chuu is the most popular member of Loona and ngl...she was far more popular than the others by a long shot. Anyways, so because of her popularity in Korea, she was always getting booked for solo activities like commercials, collaborations, etc. The problem is, she was not seeing any of the money being made from these solo activities. After years of basically earning nothing, she figured out that Blockberry Creative had essentially trapped her in an abusive contract where the more she worked, the more debt she'd rack up with the company (this would end up being the same case for the rest of the members). After Chuu found out about the contract situation, she filed for a provisional injunction to suspend her contract with Blockberry Creative and partially won. Following the injunction, Loona went on a world tour without Chuu, Blockberry Creative cited that it was due to "scheduling conflicts". Later in the year, Blockberry Creative released a statement saying they were removing Chuu from the group due to “violent language and misuse of power” and "violating terms of her exclusive contract". Up until this point everyone knew Chuu as the "happy/sunshine" extrovert that was sweet to everyone and could basically do no harm; that's her brand and it's why the public loves her. So, when those “violent language and misuse of power” accusations were brought up, Chuu denied the accusations and everyone called bullshit on Blockberry Creative. People from all over the industry like directors, staff members, dancers, basically anyone that had ever worked with Chuu, INCLUDING other Kpop idols, came to her defense. After the removal of Chuu from the group, everyone found out about the abusive contracts and in order to move away from that negative press, Blockberry Creative tried forcing the rest of the members to make a comeback with an album; something they were clearly not happy with. This led to many Kpop fans, not just Orbits (Loona fans), to boycott the company by not buying any albums, streaming any of their music, and sending letters to the Korean court to free the members; most Kpop stores also joined the boycott by not stocking any Loona albums whatsoever. This boycott ended up being so successful that, it led to the cancelation of the comeback and a drop in Loona's sales by like over 90%. In the following months after the cancelation of the comeback, the other 11 members of LOONA filed to suspend their own contracts with Blockberry Creative. And so finally, after months of fighting in court, with some members winning their lawsuit and others having to wait, all the members managed to succeed in suspending their contracts. Also if you're wondering if those fan letters sent to the court did anything, yes they did; the girls themselves said that the letters helped with winning their lawsuits. The boycott is still held up to this day, even after the members are no longer contractually bound to Blockberry Creative. Orbits and other Kpop fans refuse to legally listen, watch, or buy any of the music/content that is under the "Loona" name. Blockberry Creative reps have said time and time again that they'll continue their fight against the Loona members and Orbits simply don't want to contribute a cent to that company. And just so you know how adamant Blockberry Creative are in ruining the members, it's been almost 2 years since the "removal" of Chuu and they just RECENTLY lost yet another lawsuit against the members.
Yall owe it to yourselves to see more from Loona. Be it the solos or the group songs. It’s all amazing.
I would really like you to react to enhypen; (drunk-dazed, given-taken, blessed-cursed, bite me, etc) but Kazinho would hate the mv's because they have the typical pause in the song
OMGGG YEAH!!! You guys need to react to all their solos!!
Butterfly makes me wanna cry ngl
Please react to Hi High, Favorite, Why Not, Sweet Crazy Love, Eclipse, Hula Hoop by Loona!!
13:43 fun fact hyeju was a trainee for a day lol
The Korean of Choerry is 최리, which is pronounced "chay" rhymes with "day" and lee/ri. So it really does sound a lot like cherry. The reason there's an 'oe' is because the vowel being used is a combined vowel (dipthong) of 오 and 이, which correspond to 'o' and 'e' sounds, respectively.
Loona's b-sides are too good, especially singing in the rain, stylish, loonatic
Pls recommends one of these songs for part2 :eclipse - kim lip, singing in the rain - jinsoul (he looks like he enjoys jinsoul's part in egoist so), heart attack - chuu, new - yves, ppt(paint the town), hi high, loonatic, uncover
i think youd loveeee artms dall album i hope we get an album reaction!
You should see "Favorite" to get a great handle on the choreo they can pull off with that many members. Or just some performance videos.
i need to see a part 2.. u need to check their full ot12 performsnces and choreographies
You absolutely have to check out Xdinary Heroes. They are a rock band under JYP Entertainment and they're REALLY REALLY good! Every single song of theirs is amazing and they have a no-skip discography. I especially recommend Freakin' Bad, PLUTO, Strawberry Cake, Hair Cut... and everything else. My dad also loves them, even though he hates K-pop. They are really just that great!
LOONA isn’t Kpop. I dub them Meta Pop, and the whole of their discography (even post BBC) is ✨ Check out (Heejin’s solo album) classic R&B sound. Compare that with LOOP EP. Loossemble put out 2 nice pop mini albums 23/24. ARTMS and OEC. Diverse sounds and I think that’s what sets LOONA apart from other groups. They left BBC before an album of ballads was supposed to come out. Listen to ZSunder’s mix of LOONA “Hyperballad” which is an imagining of what the complete song might have been. Great stuff. Curiosity is another great track. All 12 members are extremely talented musically as well as great dancers, BBC worked them to death without paying them.
And no, it wouldn’t have sounded as good with less than 12. That’s kind of the point. Wait until you hear or see PTT, Hula Hoop,
Why Not, Pale Blue Dot, Number 1, Stylish, Heat,and all the sub units esp OEC, “Not Friends” (known as Scorpion Line subunit, awesome video)
Honestly, have fun.
y’all should react to post loona (virtual angel, girls night, loop, strawberry rush)
i don’t know if you mentioned this but please don’t watch the official music videos (if you didn’t then ignore my comment)! there was a huge issue that happened a couple years ago with the loona members coming out about the company abu$ing them, and we’re boycotting anything official as it gives the company money! you can find more loona music videos uploaded from different people besides the official account
loona does it again 💋
Yesss looking forward to loona dive noww!!!! Let the deep dive begins❤🎉
Please more Loona! and their new projects, ARTMS and Loossemble
fun fact, sonatine uses real orchestral strings!
loona i miss you 😢
About the 'power abuse' which was part of the reason why LOONA is currently inactive, here is the full list of events (btw this was a huge scandal in 2022/23 & literally every kpop fan was talking abt this, this whole thing was reported everywhere on Korean news & became way bigger than LOONA itself):
-late 2022 BBC announced that Chuu would be kicked out of the group due to power abuse
-Chuu is loved by fans & other ppl in the K-Pop industry which is why immediately after this, many fans & celebrities and even staff that have worked with her came out in her defense
-it was soon revealed that Chuu had been in a legal dispute with BBC for a while now bc of her unfair contract with the company
-not to go into too much detail but basically all LOONA members initially had contracts which didn't allow for them to get paid despite doing profitable activities & not only that but their contracts were also set up in a way so that all members actually went more & more into debt with each new comeback
-some members had their contracts altered in 2021 but now obviously all of them had big trust issues with BBC, especially Chuu
-Chuu is LOONA's most popular member, being known industry wide & being known to constantly be active with ads, mc gigs, her own show etc. but despite all this BBC has been ripping her off for years
-Chuu reportedly had filed a lawsuit against BBC in late 2021 & in 2022 the situation between both parties was tense & there were constant rumours of her leaving the company which BBC kept on denying until they announced her removal in late 2022
-soon after this all the other 11 LOONA members filed for contract injunctions while also showing their support for Chuu despite being heavily constricted by BBC
-one after the other they won their lawsuits & signed with new companies
-btw although a lot of this is still not officially proven, BBC has also been accused of verbally & physically abusing the members
-it was also confirmed that a lot of staff members & employees of BBC have also not been receiving any pay for months
-again, this whole thing was HUGE & way bigger than LOONA. It was talked abt everywhere & even while it was all going down, ppl were already saying that this would change the K-Pop industry forever
loona is always THAT group
Butterfly is a song that passed even my Kpop hater boyfriend, so I had a feeling you'd like it 😂❤ probably one of the only one's, along with Blackpink's "Stay". The only 2 Songs as of yet that he enjoyed... It's a real struggle 😂
Stan loona for a better life
Why do you care so much about how many people there are? Even if there doesnt need to be, just because somethint isnt needed means it should not exist?
Its such a close minded thing, they are doing a well job and every girl is doing their job and earning money, that is good, even if it doesnt NEED to be as much
he says that every time there is a group with a lot of members, but personally with loona, they all contribute to the group and have amazing talents that add so much to loona. if only a portion of the members were in this group, it would not feel the same, especially with the concept of them all releasing their own solos as the concept.
Butterfly is always be THAT song
I feel like sonatine was so misunderstood 😢
THEY NEED 12 PEOPLE TO COMPENSATE THE STRUCTURE OF THE GROUPLORE THAT GIVES IDENTITY TO EVERYONE. INDEED THEIR IDOL PERSONAS ARE CORRELATIVES OF A LORE. AND THEY CONTINUE EVOLVING THEIR CONCEPTS EVEN AFTER BBC IN THEIR RESPECTIVES ROLES IN THE STORY THAT ALWAYS GOES TO UNIFY LOONA. THEY NEED TO INCORPORATE THAT TO KEEP IT PROFIT.
FINALLY, 😭😭😭 IM SOO HAPPY, PLS REACT TO ARTMS
My favorite girlgroups are Loona and Dreamcatcher, and I'm glad that you guys both seems to like them:)
YESSSS🧘♂️🧘♂️🧘♂️MORE LOONA PLEEKK
i would reallyyyy love if you guys reacted to WJSN they make some goooddd music i love them
I'd like an al member solos part then the three subunits of predebut in another part there's so much with loona and the qquality is so immense