I think your use of the scupper holes was smart. I built the same cart without the scupper inserts. Mine works but I bet your idea is better since you don’t need to tie it down and will help with the weight of the old town.
Thanks for this video. I am from Maryland and just bought the same kayak as you. I was looking for a video for this style kayak and finally stumbled across yours. Can't wait to make this. Just a tip, change your title and add old town sportsman PDL 106 in it. I bet you will get more views. Thanks again.
Awesome, glad the video helped you! I took your advice and changed the title, I appreciate the tip! The cart is awesome, but I did go ahead and pony up the cash for the Wilderness Systems HD. Made a couple of other videos on it as well. I plan on using this DIY cart for my wife's kayak.
Can you give exact dimensions of your cuts. My Old Town sporttsman 106 is a few weeks from delivery so I would love to have this made and ready to go. Lenth of threaded rod etc. Thanks so much. The best of DIU Kayak Cart Videos.
Absolutely, hope this helps! - 1 Threaded Rod 21.5" - 4 Pontoons on top 12" each - 2 Vertical extensions to upper cross bar 1.5" each (connects pontoons to upper cross bar) - 2 Vertical extensions to axle cross bar 4.5" each (connects upper cross bar to lower cross bar (axle)) - 1 Upper horizontal cross bar 7.25" If no kick stand is used: 1 - Additional horizontal cross bar for axle at 7.25 If kick stand is used: 2 - horizontal axle pieces 3" each (allows kick stand to be added in center of axle with a "T") 1 - Kick stand 18"
@@miguelroaming Yep! I mentioned local dealer but they are actually about 2 hrs away. Every place I've checked has a long wait. Luckily the dealer I spoke to had one in their spring orders and not spoken for so I jumped on it. Crazy on the lead times but I'm patient lol.
Yes, there are carts that use scupper holes to support the kayak, such as the Hobie Kayak carts. This cart does not use the scupper holes to support any weight, only lock the cart in place. This cart supports the kayak on the "pontoons". Thanks for watching!
@@justinmayer9973 I am planning to make Miguel Roaming's cart for my PDL 120. I am going to upgrade to 1" PVC with a reducer to 3/4" on the verticle PVC that goes through the scupper holes as the 1" won't fit. I don't know if sturdiness is an issue with your 3/4" set-up but for the small extra cost why not? I know I am not the smartest person in the world but I can't wrap my head around using the scupper holes for the guide verticles as resulting in "blown out scuppers". Could be wrong about that though, so to not test the Kayak Gods, my thoughts were to just use 1 or 2 ratchet straps and that should work even though it will add a little time to my loading and unloading of the kayak. Your design is the best I have seen! Why did you decide not to use it and go with the Wilderness Systems Dolly? Was it not working out in the real world as good as it was in your garage? Al
@@alwillfinduahome scuppers have two purposes, to drain water and for internal support. The scupper is a rigid piece of plastic, orientated vertically for strength Roto-molded plastic flexes under load… apply unnecessary pressure around that scupper, the boat flexes scupper does not and pop, you have a blown scupper. It’s been an issue with kayaks forever, that’s why manufacturers recess them now
@@alwillfinduahome not saying you’re going to blow your scuppers necessarily, but the risk is there. I’d prefer just using the bumpers without the vertical pieces up in the scupper, similar to the wilderness systems cart
These will do fine on anything but the super powdery sand. The beach wheels are still ideal because they have more surface area that doesn't sink as much, but these have been fine everywhere I've taken them. With that said, if you plan on going off the Florida gulf coast quite often where the softer sand is, go for the beach wheel setup.
I think your use of the scupper holes was smart. I built the same cart without the scupper inserts. Mine works but I bet your idea is better since you don’t need to tie it down and will help with the weight of the old town.
Thanks for this video. I am from Maryland and just bought the same kayak as you. I was looking for a video for this style kayak and finally stumbled across yours. Can't wait to make this. Just a tip, change your title and add old town sportsman PDL 106 in it. I bet you will get more views. Thanks again.
Awesome, glad the video helped you! I took your advice and changed the title, I appreciate the tip! The cart is awesome, but I did go ahead and pony up the cash for the Wilderness Systems HD. Made a couple of other videos on it as well. I plan on using this DIY cart for my wife's kayak.
Thank you so much for the tutorial, I'm going to make this for my sportsman 106 :)
Can you give exact dimensions of your cuts. My Old Town sporttsman 106 is a few weeks from delivery so I would love to have this made and ready to go. Lenth of threaded rod etc. Thanks so much. The best of DIU Kayak Cart Videos.
Absolutely, hope this helps!
- 1 Threaded Rod 21.5"
- 4 Pontoons on top 12" each
- 2 Vertical extensions to upper cross bar 1.5" each (connects pontoons to upper cross bar)
- 2 Vertical extensions to axle cross bar 4.5" each (connects upper cross bar to lower cross bar (axle))
- 1 Upper horizontal cross bar 7.25"
If no kick stand is used:
1 - Additional horizontal cross bar for axle at 7.25
If kick stand is used:
2 - horizontal axle pieces 3" each (allows kick stand to be added in center of axle with a "T")
1 - Kick stand 18"
@@miguelroaming Thanks!
I would do without the scupper bits all together. Old town does not reinforce the scupper holes like Hobie does and this will void warranty if broken
Yes, scupper mounted carts will damage scuppers and eventually blow them out.
That turned out great!
I imagine those wheelbarrow wheels are pretty heavy!
Great design. I’ve got to come up with one for my Pelican 100
Thank you, and thanks for watching!
Great video! I have the same kayak on reserve, should be at my local dealer by early March. Same as you I'm not willing to spend 200 on just a cart!
Wow...is that how long the wait list is to get one these days?!!!
@@miguelroaming Yep! I mentioned local dealer but they are actually about 2 hrs away. Every place I've checked has a long wait. Luckily the dealer I spoke to had one in their spring orders and not spoken for so I jumped on it. Crazy on the lead times but I'm patient lol.
Great idea 👍🏻
oldtown advises not to use scubber holes as a cart mount
Yes, there are carts that use scupper holes to support the kayak, such as the Hobie Kayak carts. This cart does not use the scupper holes to support any weight, only lock the cart in place. This cart supports the kayak on the "pontoons". Thanks for watching!
Maybe so, but should your design result in blown out scuppers, which it will, you have voided your warranty
@@justinmayer9973 I am planning to make Miguel Roaming's cart for my PDL 120. I am going to upgrade to 1" PVC with a reducer to 3/4" on the verticle PVC that goes through the scupper holes as the 1" won't fit. I don't know if sturdiness is an issue with your 3/4" set-up but for the small extra cost why not? I know I am not the smartest person in the world but I can't wrap my head around using the scupper holes for the guide verticles as resulting in "blown out scuppers". Could be wrong about that though, so to not test the Kayak Gods, my thoughts were to just use 1 or 2 ratchet straps and that should work even though it will add a little time to my loading and unloading of the kayak. Your design is the best I have seen! Why did you decide not to use it and go with the Wilderness Systems Dolly? Was it not working out in the real world as good as it was in your garage?
Al
@@alwillfinduahome scuppers have two purposes, to drain water and for internal support. The scupper is a rigid piece of plastic, orientated vertically for strength Roto-molded plastic flexes under load… apply unnecessary pressure around that scupper, the boat flexes scupper does not and pop, you have a blown scupper. It’s been an issue with kayaks forever, that’s why manufacturers recess them now
@@alwillfinduahome not saying you’re going to blow your scuppers necessarily, but the risk is there. I’d prefer just using the bumpers without the vertical pieces up in the scupper, similar to the wilderness systems cart
How do these wheels perform on sand? They're much cheaper than beach wheels so I was considering them as an alternative
These will do fine on anything but the super powdery sand. The beach wheels are still ideal because they have more surface area that doesn't sink as much, but these have been fine everywhere I've taken them. With that said, if you plan on going off the Florida gulf coast quite often where the softer sand is, go for the beach wheel setup.