Wouldn’t this cause the pump to run all the time or any time an outlet is on? could have many short on off scenarios. Is this actually better for your pump?
No, not at all. When you stop using water the pump will stop. It's true, whenever you are using water the pump is on. That's exactly what a Cycle Stop Valve does.
NOTE: This video has been superseded by the video: “For Cycle Stop Valve Lovers: 5 Ways to Duplicate or Exceed CSV Functionality While Saving You Money!” at ua-cam.com/video/YNfqvhb45yA/v-deo.html
Please see my posting on 5/14/2023 for your video For Cycle Stop Valve Lovers: 4 Ways to Duplicate or Exceed CSV Functionality While Saving You Money! ua-cam.com/video/RFzBbFJPMBY/v-deo.html, Larry, where I note that the typical variation of Direct Operated Regulators is ± 20 PSI depending on the total flow rate of all valves (faucts, shower heads, etc.) that might be open at one time. Here is my proposed setup copied for you below: Larry, at 19:25 minutes into your video you said “And when you start using water again you don’t have this long period of unstable pressure. The pressure starts at 50, immediately, and stays at 50 for the rest of the time which does not happen with a cycle stop valve.” You stand corrected here, as when I was researching pressure reducing (regulating) valves I found that "Some mistakenly think that this is a speed of response issue where it is simply a brief change in the controlled pressure, but it will recover back to setpoint at steady state; however, this is not the case. If the regulator needs to open more, outlet pressure will have to decrease." - How Does a Direct-Operated Pressure Regulator Work? emersonexchange365.com/products/valves-actuators-regulators/f/actuators-regulators-other-final-control/6252/how-does-a-direct-operated-pressure-regulator-work-part-1. So not only will the pressure drop from the set point, but it won’t “stay steady” with changes in the the flow either! Using the SharkBite 3/4 Inch EB45 Double Union Pressure Regulating Valve (PRV), Push to Connect Brass Plumbing Fittings, PEX Pipe, Copper, CPVC, PE-RT, HDPE, 23894-0045 www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMOGH74?tag=just-a-taste-20&th=1 as a candidate for my home water supply, to operate at a constant 50 PSI @ 1.8 GPM flow rate (that of my faucets and shower head), I found from their flow rate/pressure fall-off chart on the Cash Acme EB45 Pressure Regulating Valve Specification Sheet www.sharkbite.com/sites/default/files/files/cash-acme-eb45-pressure-regulating-valve-spec-sheet.pdf that with my jet booster pump set to 54-79 PSI for the cut in/out pressure to my 20 gallon pressure tank, and using their 25 PSI differential curve to account for the 3.76 PSI droop [fall-off] found at that flow rate, would give me the desired constant 50 PSI pressure at that flow rate. Note: Pilot Operated Regulators have a much better ± 1 PSI - constant - pressure regulation, vs. the typical, and variable, ± 20 PSI regulation of Direct Operated Regulators; that is, if you can even find one, and at a much greater expense, that would even be appropriate for a home water supply. FYI, see: How Does a Pilot-Operated Pressure Regulator Work (Part 1) emersonexchange365.com/products/valves-actuators-regulators/f/actuators-regulators-other-final-control/7549/how-does-a-pilot-operated-pressure-regulator-work-part-1. Find Out Who YOU Really Are! LettersToMyBeloved.com
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Wouldn’t this cause the pump to run all the time or any time an outlet is on? could have many short on off scenarios. Is this actually better for your pump?
No, not at all. When you stop using water the pump will stop. It's true, whenever you are using water the pump is on. That's exactly what a Cycle Stop Valve does.
NOTE: This video has been superseded by the video: “For Cycle Stop Valve Lovers: 5 Ways to Duplicate or Exceed CSV Functionality While Saving You Money!” at ua-cam.com/video/YNfqvhb45yA/v-deo.html
Please see my posting on 5/14/2023 for your video For Cycle Stop Valve Lovers: 4 Ways to Duplicate or Exceed CSV Functionality While Saving You Money! ua-cam.com/video/RFzBbFJPMBY/v-deo.html, Larry, where I note that the typical variation of Direct Operated Regulators is ± 20 PSI depending on the total flow rate of all valves (faucts, shower heads, etc.) that might be open at one time. Here is my proposed setup copied for you below:
Larry, at 19:25 minutes into your video you said “And when you start using water again you don’t have this long period of unstable pressure. The pressure starts at 50, immediately, and stays at 50 for the rest of the time which does not happen with a cycle stop valve.”
You stand corrected here, as when I was researching pressure reducing (regulating) valves I found that "Some mistakenly think that this is a speed of response issue where it is simply a brief change in the controlled pressure, but it will recover back to setpoint at steady state; however, this is not the case. If the regulator needs to open more, outlet pressure will have to decrease." - How Does a Direct-Operated Pressure Regulator Work? emersonexchange365.com/products/valves-actuators-regulators/f/actuators-regulators-other-final-control/6252/how-does-a-direct-operated-pressure-regulator-work-part-1. So not only will the pressure drop from the set point, but it won’t “stay steady” with changes in the the flow either!
Using the SharkBite 3/4 Inch EB45 Double Union Pressure Regulating Valve (PRV), Push to Connect Brass Plumbing Fittings, PEX Pipe, Copper, CPVC, PE-RT, HDPE, 23894-0045 www.amazon.com/dp/B00FMOGH74?tag=just-a-taste-20&th=1 as a candidate for my home water supply, to operate at a constant 50 PSI @ 1.8 GPM flow rate (that of my faucets and shower head), I found from their flow rate/pressure fall-off chart on the Cash Acme EB45 Pressure Regulating Valve Specification Sheet www.sharkbite.com/sites/default/files/files/cash-acme-eb45-pressure-regulating-valve-spec-sheet.pdf that with my jet booster pump set to 54-79 PSI for the cut in/out pressure to my 20 gallon pressure tank, and using their 25 PSI differential curve to account for the 3.76 PSI droop [fall-off] found at that flow rate, would give me the desired constant 50 PSI pressure at that flow rate.
Note: Pilot Operated Regulators have a much better ± 1 PSI - constant - pressure regulation, vs. the typical, and variable, ± 20 PSI regulation of Direct Operated Regulators; that is, if you can even find one, and at a much greater expense, that would even be appropriate for a home water supply.
FYI, see: How Does a Pilot-Operated Pressure Regulator Work (Part 1) emersonexchange365.com/products/valves-actuators-regulators/f/actuators-regulators-other-final-control/7549/how-does-a-pilot-operated-pressure-regulator-work-part-1.
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People are bored with and totally disinterested in your pissing match with cycle stop.