Thanks for another of your informative videos. The graphics make things much easier to understand! In my younger days I remember well the approach through the tunnel from Stamford East to Stamford Town, which was a bit of a nightmare for drivers trying to spot the home signal which used to be hung below a wooden beam that spanned the line right at the tunnel exit. With steam and smoke often filling the tunnel it was a really bad spot to try to stop at and if you knew it was "on" you'd have to go very slowly through the tunnel to stand any chance of stopping near to the exit and still being able to breathe! The signal was a lower quadrant Midland Railway one, which lasted well into the 1960s. No problem today with colour lights and no steam getting in the way but Stamford is still quite a busy station.
Stamford East closed to passengers in 1957, the Stamford and Essendine railway closed altogether in 1959, Stamford East closed to goods in 1963 and the sidings at Blackstone's closed in 1967. The line was taken up after it closed in 1959 apart from a section that ran to the sidings at Blackstones and the Stamford East station yard which continued to be used for goods until 1963. This was taken up and the sidings left in use until 1967 when they fell out of use but I don't know when they were taken up.
A good review with excellent graphics and historic reearch. One slight addition: Morcott station opened between Luffenham and Seaton (LNWR) in 1898 and closed under the Beeching axe.
Thank you for your comment. Morcott is on the Rugby and Stamford railway and features within that video as a critical component. The Midland and the LNWR Wansford line are critical components of the Stamford and Essendine railway. As mentioned on comments on other videos I try to give a background of surrounding lines around the subject of what we are discovering, and anything else is just surplus. If you watch my Rugby and Stamford video, you'll see I mention Morcott, with dates and even include photographs. With hindsight perhaps I could have included it as it seems to be the only one I left off! Thanks again for watching.
Well done with another good presentation Matt. You are starting to put together a nice channel of informative videos, the descriptive mapping being exceptional good.
Thank you, Werrington! Next video is the South Leicestershire line. It's amazing how much more data is out there when you start looking deep, particularly regarding sidings and what role they played within the railway's economy.
Your historical map + narrative timelines are fascinating. There has been some hard work put in here. Hope your subscribers grow! - One slight not being nasty comment… please use a wind muffler on your mic. Look forward to the next one😀
Thanks for the lovely feedback. I was filming shortly after storm Franklin, so wind was a bit more excessive than expected, and I threw a lot of video out! I'll be looking to get a proper microphone rather than relying on the phone. Thanks again.
Great video Matt - the timeline makes the quite complex ‘big picture’ very consumable. Just one thing to mention- you mention Yarwell Junction station right at the end…..it’s important to understand that this was once the point where the line to Nassington/Seaton diverged from another line that went south t Oundle, Barnwell, Thrapston and beyond (I think to Northampton) Given that your primary focus was on Stamford this omission is understandable, but this part of the picture adds yet more traffic through Sibson and shows its importance to be even greater.
Thanks Alan. You're right and at the very beginning I explain about the LNWR coming into Peterborough from the London & Birmingham but don't mention from where it has travelled so that's good feedback, thank you. You're right it's not in the scope of the film, but I must say its my error leaving it out opposed to not knowing it, as at 13:25 I mention about Wansford being an important junction station, but don't provide detail. I'm doing four videos at the moment on Ironstone, one has been uploaded. Once these are finished, I have the short M&GNR and the Great Central remaining. After that I'm looking at where I go next and I've been studying, among other things, the rail map of my home county of Essex and also as one of the first comments on any videos was, "I can't wait til you do Northants", it's in my sights. An opportunity will present itself to get the Northampton & Peterborough Railway mentioned. Thanks again for the comment.
That's correct and I cover that at 15:15 when Ryhall station closed. Also at 15:44 I noted that the freight line closed prior to the publication of the Beeching Report. It's amazing how little of Leicestershire and Rutland's railways were closed due to Beeching, many due to mining/ quarrying resources running out and cases such as Ryhall where passenger use was so minimal, they weren't worth saving. The same goes for the Epping/Ongar branch which was critically underused by LU passengers (takings for the entire line in 1993 was a regular weekly income of £32, equating to three passengers) but has gone from strength to strength as a heritage railway. Thank you for your comment.
Thank you for your comment. Neither the Midland nor Great Northern would authorise the private railway to join their tracks, so no spur could be built. This was also the opinion of the LNWR as it would allow railways in competition with them to access their own routes - such was the complexity of such a large railway network run by opposing factions. Grouping would have resolved these issues, but most of the railway had gone by then, and no logical route would require building spurs in either direction. Peterborough was accessible by all three railways, so except as a 'via' route calling at other companies stations, spurs wouldn't have been of any benefit without incurring costs, and building spurs after 1948 nationalisation would have been quite spendy at a time when money was not in free demand.
Ryhall is pronounced (Rye-all) h is silent. And the station is still there sadly its private land and somebody has stuck a caravan on it and a house eventually but hope they keep the platform
Thank you for your comment. The plans indeed cover a new house with the platform remaining, and I went there to photograph it but it felt like I was invading the property. Thanks for the pronunciation, there are so many in our two counties that are pronounced unusually and in the future I plan to cover these exceptions.
@@MattDavis_BeechingsGhosts its weird same in Lincolnshire also. There is a village near Bourne called Aslackby which is prononce (Asleby) lots of villages in the East Midlands with strange pronounciations
Thanks for another of your informative videos. The graphics make things much easier to understand!
In my younger days I remember well the approach through the tunnel from Stamford East to Stamford Town, which was a bit of a nightmare for drivers trying to spot the home signal which used to be hung below a wooden beam that spanned the line right at the tunnel exit. With steam and smoke often filling the tunnel it was a really bad spot to try to stop at and if you knew it was "on" you'd have to go very slowly through the tunnel to stand any chance of stopping near to the exit and still being able to breathe!
The signal was a lower quadrant Midland Railway one, which lasted well into the 1960s.
No problem today with colour lights and no steam getting in the way but Stamford is still quite a busy station.
Stamford East closed to passengers in 1957, the Stamford and Essendine railway closed altogether in 1959, Stamford East closed to goods in 1963 and the sidings at Blackstone's closed in 1967. The line was taken up after it closed in 1959 apart from a section that ran to the sidings at Blackstones and the Stamford East station yard which continued to be used for goods until 1963. This was taken up and the sidings left in use until 1967 when they fell out of use but I don't know when they were taken up.
A good review with excellent graphics and historic reearch. One slight addition: Morcott station opened between Luffenham and Seaton (LNWR) in 1898 and closed under the Beeching axe.
Thank you for your comment. Morcott is on the Rugby and Stamford railway and features within that video as a critical component. The Midland and the LNWR Wansford line are critical components of the Stamford and Essendine railway. As mentioned on comments on other videos I try to give a background of surrounding lines around the subject of what we are discovering, and anything else is just surplus. If you watch my Rugby and Stamford video, you'll see I mention Morcott, with dates and even include photographs. With hindsight perhaps I could have included it as it seems to be the only one I left off! Thanks again for watching.
Well done with another good presentation Matt. You are starting to put together a nice channel of informative videos, the descriptive mapping being exceptional good.
Thank you, Werrington! Next video is the South Leicestershire line. It's amazing how much more data is out there when you start looking deep, particularly regarding sidings and what role they played within the railway's economy.
Your historical map + narrative timelines are fascinating. There has been some hard work put in here. Hope your subscribers grow! - One slight not being nasty comment… please use a wind muffler on your mic.
Look forward to the next one😀
Thanks for the lovely feedback. I was filming shortly after storm Franklin, so wind was a bit more excessive than expected, and I threw a lot of video out! I'll be looking to get a proper microphone rather than relying on the phone. Thanks again.
Great video Matt - the timeline makes the quite complex ‘big picture’ very consumable.
Just one thing to mention- you mention Yarwell Junction station right at the end…..it’s important to understand that this was once the point where the line to Nassington/Seaton diverged from another line that went south t Oundle, Barnwell, Thrapston and beyond (I think to Northampton)
Given that your primary focus was on Stamford this omission is understandable, but this part of the picture adds yet more traffic through Sibson and shows its importance to be even greater.
Thanks Alan. You're right and at the very beginning I explain about the LNWR coming into Peterborough from the London & Birmingham but don't mention from where it has travelled so that's good feedback, thank you. You're right it's not in the scope of the film, but I must say its my error leaving it out opposed to not knowing it, as at 13:25 I mention about Wansford being an important junction station, but don't provide detail.
I'm doing four videos at the moment on Ironstone, one has been uploaded. Once these are finished, I have the short M&GNR and the Great Central remaining. After that I'm looking at where I go next and I've been studying, among other things, the rail map of my home county of Essex and also as one of the first comments on any videos was, "I can't wait til you do Northants", it's in my sights. An opportunity will present itself to get the Northampton & Peterborough Railway mentioned.
Thanks again for the comment.
Passenger serviced ceased on this line in 1959 long before the Beeching Report. It was a run down freight only line when it was closed in 1963.
That's correct and I cover that at 15:15 when Ryhall station closed. Also at 15:44 I noted that the freight line closed prior to the publication of the Beeching Report. It's amazing how little of Leicestershire and Rutland's railways were closed due to Beeching, many due to mining/ quarrying resources running out and cases such as Ryhall where passenger use was so minimal, they weren't worth saving. The same goes for the Epping/Ongar branch which was critically underused by LU passengers (takings for the entire line in 1993 was a regular weekly income of £32, equating to three passengers) but has gone from strength to strength as a heritage railway. Thank you for your comment.
Why wasn't a spur built to allow access to Peterborough?
Thank you for your comment. Neither the Midland nor Great Northern would authorise the private railway to join their tracks, so no spur could be built. This was also the opinion of the LNWR as it would allow railways in competition with them to access their own routes - such was the complexity of such a large railway network run by opposing factions. Grouping would have resolved these issues, but most of the railway had gone by then, and no logical route would require building spurs in either direction. Peterborough was accessible by all three railways, so except as a 'via' route calling at other companies stations, spurs wouldn't have been of any benefit without incurring costs, and building spurs after 1948 nationalisation would have been quite spendy at a time when money was not in free demand.
@Matt Davis thanks for this. A sad waste of a fab route.
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Ryhall is pronounced (Rye-all) h is silent. And the station is still there sadly its private land and somebody has stuck a caravan on it and a house eventually but hope they keep the platform
Thank you for your comment. The plans indeed cover a new house with the platform remaining, and I went there to photograph it but it felt like I was invading the property. Thanks for the pronunciation, there are so many in our two counties that are pronounced unusually and in the future I plan to cover these exceptions.
@@MattDavis_BeechingsGhosts its weird same in Lincolnshire also. There is a village near Bourne called Aslackby which is prononce (Asleby) lots of villages in the East Midlands with strange pronounciations