Guys, hear me out. Penacony released in 2.0. Sunday said he grants Dignity on the 7th day. This means we had to wait 7 patches = 7 days, for him to release 2.7. It was all planned
@@glitchesInTheRainbowbecause we first met the Penacony characters in 2.0 it doesn’t count so we started waiting for playable Sunday in 2.1 so 7 patches b4 2.7
Honestly Sunday’s ult animation really grew on me. Imo the best support ult animation. Love the sound effects too and the little angels floating around him.
If we are talking about Robin as the team wide buffer, I don’t think she was ever that great to use when you could only have one harmony in the team. She needed another harmony be it Sparkle Bronya or Tingyun to get her full power in hypercarry teams.
@@qinsmingyueThis is wrong. Robin has the highest buff volume in the game. Way higher than Sparkle's. If you could only pick one Robin beats Sparkle 10 out of 10 times.
@@td984 I agree she has the highest buffs more than Sparkle but I’m more talking about the comfort of use and how much work it takes to get her ult with constant uptime in a hypercarry team set up like E2 Acheron. You could definitely still make it work but most people would just use Sparkle and call it a day. Robin is for high level 0 cycle player (or those who are willing to restart battles so Robin can get better hit rng for more energy) in those cases. With Sparkle or Tingyun tho, you are less worried about those things and can unleash Robin’s full power.
I hope the idiots parroting around about how Sunday needs Robin see this. She needs Sunday just as much as he needs her to pull off these rotations otherwise her ult just won't be up again for another 10 years. I love Robin enough to get E1 but man people downplay Sunday and glaze her without thinking for a bit. The Robin+Sunday *DUO* is strong and taking either of them out will drop the team's performance significantly
You’d think people would be smart enough to piece together the information that while Robin is good especially at her niche she’s not that busted as people are claiming her to be at e0s1. I have her e0s1 and people even on SundayMains are overstating how good she is and how she’s required. Sunday and Robin have insane synergy which is what makes Robin more impressive than she already is but they’re also forgetting that Sunday with his sp positivity and 100%AA is eliminating all the downsides of running Robin in hypercarry setups.
I got downvoted on Sundaymains for saying that Sunday + Robin is the one making 1.x hypercarries great, not Robin alone. Lmao. Its as if they want to make Sunday bad on purpose
Sunday is nuts on his own and here he isn’t even used in the niche he is supposed to be BiS for which is summons, yet he performed extremely well, that even acheron who was starting to show some age is able to 1 cycle this (tbf its lightning weak and decent MoC for AoE but still). Yeah he is definitely really strong, and it’s NOT Robin doing the heavy lifting, Robin is amazing on her own though.
ik people compare robin vs sunday and stuff but like look at sunday he plays so simply and so braindeadedly that i love it because as a filthy casual, im not a big fan of robin-focused teams where i have to use my brain when to press robin ult sunday is just advance forward go brrr *angel choir noises*
Energy regen, sp regen, action forward, summon forward, dmg amplification... All he needs is break effect amplification and debuff, and he'll literally end every single support character 😭
Ppl debating about if he is better than robin or sparkle etc. while I’m just enjoying more harmony units, I have every single one of them and they are all good 😃
Sparkle is better here. Sunday will be optimal for others teams and rememberance is coming ( who are summoners ) he is wasted here. Unless sparkle is also viable for summons which is logical
@@LolLol-dp8kbcurious to see how she performs in hi3 powercreep environment ngl, she's gonna support the new 8.0 character so hoping she's bis for the new astral ring. Seems she's the better quantum unit over sleepy teri so thats a good sign
Its the -1 spd setup, Sunday with one less speed than the carry. Has always been decent since bronya but some teams would need E1 bronya and decent rng to pull it off, with sunday its comfier (especially with S1).
Im always use speed boots since the RNG to get Attack boots is so small i got 4 speed boots and 1 attack boots 😂 the speed boots also have godly crit substat
Hi, question. Does “Fugue” skill applied to dr ratio, when he attacks is the debuff applied before his attack hits? Or after. Basically will the skill applied to ratio increase his follow up percentage.
Bronya will give you higher numbers on Acheron's ultimate, but you will lose the flexibility to ult outside of her turn which can be detrimental in some scenarios.
It seems Sparkle would be better for Acheron than Sunday. Sunday is better for units that can utilize his energy regen and his damage buff for summons. Sparkle, however, gives more crit damage and atk% buffs - plus she doesn't even need her Sig and DDD is better for her anyway - while Sunday needs his to be SP positive. Only issue for Sparkle is building 165+ speed 200+ and crit damage at the same time could be quite the pain.
Is there a point for me to even grab Sunday if I have an E6 Acheron with an E2S1 Sparkles @ 161 spd? Espically with I run Acheron with atk boots and not speed boots?
@@armihnfruity4788 but are the “servants” which remembrance is centered around similar to summons cause they are they’re own character and not just like numby and lightning lord.
buff duration, his buff lasts two turns instead of one turn (bronya) or until the target's next turn (sparkle). This means even if you do Acheron with -1 Speed set-up, all her attacks get the buff unlike Bronya where you'd only get half duration, and Sparkle can't do the -1 Speed set-up at all
In the newer video, he switched up CR piece with CD piece That's quite the only change while other teammates stay the same That actually got him manage to 0 cycle Svarog
I see the end of the vids, Is this e0 acheron? Would sunday worth it for e0 acheron+JQ instead of using other nihility units? sunday energy regen would be waste on acheron but sunday S1 extra skill point should help jq+ache using skill almost everyturn(maybe)
Yeah when i used Robin she never felt great when there is only one harmony that could be used in hypercarry. When she has the support or Sparkle/Tingyun tho, she is stellar. But I would rather ise my e1s1 Bronya for Acheron. Now that Sunday is here I can finally switch.
Hi Cornflake! So for both E2S1 or E0S1, is it Robin still or Sunday now? considering a switch to speed boots +1 spd over Sunday as a factor vs attk boots on Robin
This isn't related to the main purpose of the video, i just want to inform you that your Aventurine did 280k while keeping everyone alive as he should. 💪😎 Nice
After I got my Acheron to e2 and s1, I don't have pulls for Sunday sadge. But I'm satisfied with just using my Sparkle/e1 FuXuan/JQ on her team even if it's like 20% less efficient in Ult stacking.
There's always reruns if you want Sunday eventually. But as it stands, your current Acheron team is still very good to help clear content. So I wouldn't worry too much currently, even if it's technically "worse" now.
@@TheGeekyRedMage my priority now is fugue for my rappa,(and Acheron maybe 🤔) for new I think that is okay to skip him since I am not interested in the new soummon path mechanics , how about you?
Genuine question, I don't really know about Sunday's numbers. How is he better than E0S1 Sparkle? Is it because Acheron can do faster ults with speed boots?
You can do better than that with bronya , my e2 s1 Acheron hits around 600-900 per ult ( my crit is 78 with e1 buff 🙃) just make her speed 135 and -1 bronya and the stakes goes crazy
@Aha-is-elation I actually have an E1S1 Lingsha that I can pair with Fugue. That way, Lingsha can apply debuffs for Acheron every time she attacks, including her bunnies.
I feel it to much OP, and you can easily focus more on crit dmg and attack since Sunday provides 20% critRate and Acheron artefact can easily provide her +20% critRate
pela + fox boy better. Same numbers, cheaper. just imagine losing 70% acheron dmg bonus from passive bc 1 nihility in team to get +65% dmg bonus from sunday. prob 20 critrate and 60cdmg can be good but pela`s def shred give same dmg.
@@badgerEnjoyerno you’re wrong, when Acheron have only one nihility character in team, it would only lose 45% dmg boost. Sunday give 75% dmg boost, 60% crit Dmg and 20% crit Rate which is huge. Also Robin+Jiaoqiu already be better than 2 nihility comps. So that’s it mean Robin/Sunday+Jiaoqiu is better than 1 nihility+Jiaoqiu
@@Mimic_656 yessir, pela not provide def shred for acheron and faster stacks than sunday. Pela+fox with e0s1 acheron deals 500k-700k from first ult in vulnerability and can easily do 1 mil in 5 target lol. Sunday overrated for acheron.
Also Can you do a comparison between Jing yuan and acheron with sunday as their Buffer in this MoC?Because So far Youre the most reliable Showcaser in my eyes
Honestly I’m more impressed with Aventurine’s shield being able to keep up with all the 100% AA, If only he’d rerun after Sunday I would’ve gotten that busted e1.
@@sladeTek does this mean I'm not an average Acheron main? (I pulled for Aventurine eidolons instead of hers and kept her at e0 because Aven is my GOAT, am I even considered an "Acheron main" anymore😭)
Most other dps are only doing at best 1 cycle as well though and they are single target or blast focused. Most 0 cycles usually are sustainless, S5 DDD or Robin nowadays with unrealistic stats and perfect rng I think 1 cycle is absolutely fine right now considering this is the most hp first half has ever had.
Still an odd fit for Sunday. We sacrifice the entirety of his ult Recharge functions for the pairing. Sunday may be better, but I'd rather use Sunday for a different team he can boost more and keep Sparkle with Acheron until we get a tailor-made support for Acheron.
@@sladeTekshe literally only has 1 premium teammate while still being near the top of the meta and everybody else has entire teams that support them to the fullest. she needs more nihilty units that actually support her
@@princekili1027everyone else’s teams also have more dedicated carries. FuA core supports both Ratio and Fei at minimum (there are other niche options like maindps M7). Lingsha, Fugue, RM slot into all break teams especially now that Fugue can give Lingsha colorless break, so they can support Rappa, Boothill, and Firefly with the ENTIRETY of their kit. Meanwhile the only unit that can use JQ’s entire kit is Acheron. Let’s face the facts Acheron isn’t an archetype like break or FuA up and it literally makes no sense for the devs to create an entire premium team for just one unit. If debuff stacking ever does become an actual archetype with multiple carries then she’ll get more kinda tailor made support. Until then it’s just cope, she gets a full premium team when Jingliu gets hers.
@@princekili1027 by everybody else did you mean only feixiao FUA? Cuz DoT doesn't have support yet, break FF/rappa(not as much) is still stuck with HMC and boothill is still using bronya/Sunday who's crit buff is useless, hp drain doesn't have a dedicated support yet, BA doesn't even have a 4pc set. Ult still uses tingyun who's a 4*. My point is an archetype will at most have only one dedicated support and one universal support. Acheron team is already complete, it cannot get any more specific than jiaoqiu.
Reason why Sunday outclasses Sparkle: 135(DPS), 134(Advancer) > 160(Advancer), 101(DPS) 135, 134: 12 turns in 4 cycles 160, 101: 7 turns in 4 cycles More turns = more damage More turns = more stacks Sparkle still surpasses Sunday in terms of overall buff so if she also had a 100% AA, it wouldn't even be a question of who's better. Sparkle 50% AA is what's fucking her up, she always goes before the DPS making the extra turn Skill buff useless (only in cases where you gain Acheron's ult midway).
I think with enough rng on skill points, E1 bronya with sundays weapon would do better here. But who has the patience to do a lot of runs with bronya lol, Sunday is king
@@Mimic_656Jing Yuan is already performing on par and even better than Acheron just with Sunday at e0s1, this isn’t even with the new buffs and supports we will get with summons in 3.x. If Uglaea is gonna powercreep Jing yuan at least he’ll still get indirect buffs from the summon meta meanwhile Acheron would be falling off so you better be careful what you’re wishing for 🤣🤣
@@sladeTek blud forgot that fugue is A better HMC and she is Fire element so she is the perfect support for FF , and who did even mention FF are you that triggered because she is stronger than acheron or what?
@@FireFly_best_girlbetter HMC? Lmfao half the buffs Fugue provide don’t even benefit FF and her superbreak multipliers are way lower than HMC. Fugue has omnibreak and would enable any break unit to do toughness not just fire. There is not a single TCer saying Fugue is better than HMC for FF at e0 so keep being delusional. Also I don’t have Acheron so try again but unfortunately for you FF will experience a harder fall than Acheron because 80% of FF’s damage is tied to HMC ijbol
@@sladeTekI agree. People say Fugue is just an acceptable replacement, they never said she's a good replacement for HMC lmfao. Fugue deals pitiful damage, cannot offer rare buffs unless E1 and her E2 is not even as good as S3 DDD HMC. She is a feigned toughness stuck with mediocre support capabilities. Unless your Firefly is E2, you will see a significant damage loss when facing especially imaginary enemies since HMC can deal an absurd of damage, a decent sub dps and good DDD.
Idk, see no real strength. With Sparkle she clears the first wave with the same speed, but Jiaoqiu has more energy. And why don't you use QPQ Gallagher with Robin? It's literally the only way to have close to 100% Robin's ultimate uptime
Do you have a video of her clearing with sparkle at the same speed? Are you sure you're not talking about an E2 Acheron? You don't need gallagher QpQ here because you get free energy from AoE attacks, one in wave 1, two in wave 2. Giving you a total of guaranteed 60 energy just from three attacks.
@@cornflakebutsilly it's beta, of course personally I don't have that video, I just talk about my experience. Standard rotation with Sparkle looks like: Jiaoqiu E and ult, Sparkle advance, Acheron E and ult. Then few enemies and sustain turns and repeat the first 3 heroes actions. As a result you came to a second wave with 1/3 (or more) Jiaoqiu energy and same 0-1 Acheron ult stacks (depends of enemies and sustain). What about Robin, you can't say she'll always be attacked by enemies and be able to get enough energy. For example in the current MoC she easily can get 0 attacks during the first cycle, so using Gallagher causes not only enough energy for Robin no matter what enemies will be, but more debuffs for Acheron compared with Aventurine (and lower lim cost, of course)
@cornflakebutsilly each harmony will be used in its niche and thats healthy. Sunday should be used with remembrance to be at his full potential and sparkle here. Maximize each harmony, unless sparkle is used for summoners too witch is logical ofc, we ll see! But no one is powercreeping anyone.
He’s definitely good but this can’t serve as proof of anything without and actual comparison to other supports. Opting for meme clips instead of an actual run for Robin feels intentionally disinformational and disingenuous.
I didn't show Robin's run because her team couldn't 0 cycle wave 1, you can see it here in 5:02. Robin runs were simply not good enough/clean enough to be used in a comparison. If you wanna know the reason, you can view my discord server, a couple scrolls and you'll see my messages about her performance.
Guys, hear me out.
Penacony released in 2.0. Sunday said he grants Dignity on the 7th day. This means we had to wait 7 patches = 7 days, for him to release 2.7. It was all planned
Uhh
2.0 - 1
2.1 - 2
2.2 - 3
2.3 - 4
2.4 - 5
2.5 - 6
2.6 - 7
2.7 - 8
Im sure we waited 8 patches since his official release
MY MIND IS BLOWN🤯
but there are 8 patches between 2.0 and 2.7... nonetheless, good idea
@@glitchesInTheRainbowdo you know maths
@@glitchesInTheRainbowbecause we first met the Penacony characters in 2.0 it doesn’t count so we started waiting for playable Sunday in 2.1 so 7 patches b4 2.7
Honestly Sunday’s ult animation really grew on me. Imo the best support ult animation. Love the sound effects too and the little angels floating around him.
Robin's can't be beat
@@MrSquishy0 WELCOME TO MY~~~ WO OH OH OHWRLD!!!!
@@HerrscherOfKugisakiit does get a little stale quick though because of how often it becomes main battle music
@@popdog165 Nuh uh
@@MrSquishy0she just walks up stairs then starts singing were talking bout animations not songs that get boring and repetitive
finally st buffer outperformed teamwide buffer in hypercarry setup
Summon & Energy buffer who outperforms teamwide buffer who outperforms ST buffer in a hypercarry null energy setup
@@planetbefall4744 saying it that way makes it very funny but also wow
If we are talking about Robin as the team wide buffer, I don’t think she was ever that great to use when you could only have one harmony in the team. She needed another harmony be it Sparkle Bronya or Tingyun to get her full power in hypercarry teams.
@@qinsmingyueThis is wrong. Robin has the highest buff volume in the game. Way higher than Sparkle's. If you could only pick one Robin beats Sparkle 10 out of 10 times.
@@td984 I agree she has the highest buffs more than Sparkle but I’m more talking about the comfort of use and how much work it takes to get her ult with constant uptime in a hypercarry team set up like E2 Acheron. You could definitely still make it work but most people would just use Sparkle and call it a day. Robin is for high level 0 cycle player (or those who are willing to restart battles so Robin can get better hit rng for more energy) in those cases.
With Sparkle or Tingyun tho, you are less worried about those things and can unleash Robin’s full power.
all the babygirls buffing daddy acheron 💪
Sunday took sparkle's insult a bit too personally
Sparkle so irrelevant she doesn't even get bloopers 😔
Don't say that or they gonna powercreep her more. Oh shi- they gonna do it their releasing another quantum harmony -
Thats what she gets for calling him chicken wings boy🤭👅
@@armihnfruity4788 just saying, do you really think a harmony character's element means anything
@@armihnfruity4788well it’s quantum so you know their gonna be mid
@@armihnfruity4788 you do realize that a harmony's element has absolutely zero relation to the kit, right?
I hope the idiots parroting around about how Sunday needs Robin see this. She needs Sunday just as much as he needs her to pull off these rotations otherwise her ult just won't be up again for another 10 years. I love Robin enough to get E1 but man people downplay Sunday and glaze her without thinking for a bit. The Robin+Sunday *DUO* is strong and taking either of them out will drop the team's performance significantly
Why would you even push Robin to hypercarry set ups with her brother when Feixiao teams exist where she truly belongs..
You’d think people would be smart enough to piece together the information that while Robin is good especially at her niche she’s not that busted as people are claiming her to be at e0s1. I have her e0s1 and people even on SundayMains are overstating how good she is and how she’s required. Sunday and Robin have insane synergy which is what makes Robin more impressive than she already is but they’re also forgetting that Sunday with his sp positivity and 100%AA is eliminating all the downsides of running Robin in hypercarry setups.
Sunday+JQ actually seems just as good in practice as long as your carry does ultimate damage.
I got downvoted on Sundaymains for saying that Sunday + Robin is the one making 1.x hypercarries great, not Robin alone. Lmao. Its as if they want to make Sunday bad on purpose
Sunday is nuts on his own and here he isn’t even used in the niche he is supposed to be BiS for which is summons, yet he performed extremely well, that even acheron who was starting to show some age is able to 1 cycle this (tbf its lightning weak and decent MoC for AoE but still).
Yeah he is definitely really strong, and it’s NOT Robin doing the heavy lifting, Robin is amazing on her own though.
With sunday i can finally run crit damage instead of crit rate ❤❤❤❤
with 50% cirRate on Acheron and Sunday you can easily reach 90%💀
Time for 300% cdmg acheron
ik people compare robin vs sunday and stuff but like
look at sunday
he plays so simply and so braindeadedly that i love it because as a filthy casual, im not a big fan of robin-focused teams where i have to use my brain when to press robin ult
sunday is just advance forward go brrr *angel choir noises*
ill still get robin on rerun tho
sunday vs robin? nah
sunday + robin? hell yeah
@@chokeolattefr why would you choose when you can play both 😂
Energy regen, sp regen, action forward, summon forward, dmg amplification... All he needs is break effect amplification and debuff, and he'll literally end every single support character 😭
Sunday is broken
@@Vitaismylove here before someone says he's average or something 🤣
@@nickn_myae he will be best harmony in 3.x
@@Vitaismylove Can those versions come faster because I'm tired of people underestimating him ong
@@nickn_myae Watch them whine about him being too strong when 3.0 is here
@@HarmoniusChoir these Reddit doomposters Incels(derogatory) will never be happy istg
Bruh he’s doing so so GOOD in a team where he’s buffing a NON summon dps who doesn’t even use energy 🙀🙀
my goat Peakflake is back FeelsStrongMan
Ppl debating about if he is better than robin or sparkle etc. while I’m just enjoying more harmony units, I have every single one of them and they are all good 😃
Sparkle is better here. Sunday will be optimal for others teams and rememberance is coming ( who are summoners ) he is wasted here. Unless sparkle is also viable for summons which is logical
@@dimitristakis6396Sunday has 100% av advance though
@@dimitristakis6396 No, she's not better here
Isn't aventurine a bad sustain for -1 Sunday? Because shield expires twice as fast with -1 spd. Im torn between Aventurine/Fu Xuan because of this.
i am curious about the performance of e2 bronya with sunday lc here
I wish someone would make that comparison because I can’t imagine him outperforming E2 bronya if the SP economy allows it 😭
e0 sunday giving 20 crit rate and 30 crit damage already powercreeps sparkle 😂
You know youre fked when a harmony with servant niche outperform you in YOUR OWN ROLE FLOPKLE COULD NEVER 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
Whose flopkle?
@@judielgabrielmanalo5031 Something something *mask* something something *firework* something something *went MIA after Sunday Beta*
@@judielgabrielmanalo5031I'm guessing Sparkle
i guess she's retiring from hsr meta to journey on to hi3 meta lol, cant be meta on both games can she
@@LolLol-dp8kbcurious to see how she performs in hi3 powercreep environment ngl, she's gonna support the new 8.0 character so hoping she's bis for the new astral ring. Seems she's the better quantum unit over sleepy teri so thats a good sign
So we can run Acheron with Speed boots then?
for this set up yes
@@Michael-vr9us YOOOOOOO lore accurate speedy acheron
Its the -1 spd setup, Sunday with one less speed than the carry. Has always been decent since bronya but some teams would need E1 bronya and decent rng to pull it off, with sunday its comfier (especially with S1).
Im always use speed boots since the RNG to get Attack boots is so small i got 4 speed boots and 1 attack boots 😂 the speed boots also have godly crit substat
Wouldnt aventurine be a bad sustain for the -1 setup? Because shield expires x2 fast with -1 spd acheron acting twice
omg finally dudeee i been waiting for this for 3 weeks while everyone's posting their 50th robin x sunday showcase with jy
Hi, question. Does “Fugue” skill applied to dr ratio, when he attacks is the debuff applied before his attack hits? Or after. Basically will the skill applied to ratio increase his follow up percentage.
ngl im unsure of getting Sunday (character) over his LC for e2 bronya since my setup let's me run -1 with atk boots
Bronya e2s1 and sunday e0s0, who will better in acheron team?
Bronya will give you higher numbers on Acheron's ultimate, but you will lose the flexibility to ult outside of her turn which can be detrimental in some scenarios.
If I got Sunday E6, he can replace the condition that require 2 nihility of Acheron or not (Acheron E0)
He is better than 2 Nihility even if he's E0 so yes
My E2 Acheron eating so good
good thing im annoyed by sparkle storywise i didnt pull for her 😂
Future team 🙏
It seems Sparkle would be better for Acheron than Sunday.
Sunday is better for units that can utilize his energy regen and his damage buff for summons.
Sparkle, however, gives more crit damage and atk% buffs - plus she doesn't even need her Sig and DDD is better for her anyway - while Sunday needs his to be SP positive.
Only issue for Sparkle is building 165+ speed 200+ and crit damage at the same time could be quite the pain.
Is there a point for me to even grab Sunday if I have an E6 Acheron with an E2S1 Sparkles @ 161 spd? Espically with I run Acheron with atk boots and not speed boots?
Can someone tell me what Sunday does that is so different from bronya/sparkle except the extra buffs for summon characters
energy regeneration! he have everything that bronya and sparkle have + the energy regen and the summons AA
His a bronya+sparkle,tingyun and yukong at one. Pretty busted since 3.0 characters were summon meta he is a must ig.
@@armihnfruity4788 but are the “servants” which remembrance is centered around similar to summons cause they are they’re own character and not just like numby and lightning lord.
@@VigilanteSwiftie13 yes they are different but they are still considered summons and they will NEED sunday
buff duration, his buff lasts two turns instead of one turn (bronya) or until the target's next turn (sparkle). This means even if you do Acheron with -1 Speed set-up, all her attacks get the buff unlike Bronya where you'd only get half duration, and Sparkle can't do the -1 Speed set-up at all
Will E2 Acheron be able to 0 cycle this side with the same setup?
definitely not. would need either unreqchable stats, support eidolons or a triple support setup.
You can if you run sustainless with robin💪🏻
In the newer video, he switched up CR piece with CD piece
That's quite the only change while other teammates stay the same
That actually got him manage to 0 cycle Svarog
my fav support boys Jiao and Sunday
I feel like I wasted my jades on Sparkle😭 Even tho I have e0s1 dhil, he's totally useless now(
IL works well with Sunday bro
@Super-7327 Thanks bro♥️ I'm pulling for Sunday
How much difference would only E0 Sunday but with Bronya Sig LC make?
Would this work if sunday is 160 spd with atk boots archeron?
It'd work yes, but it will be significantly worse.
@melopilled I will let go if I have the choice lol, but my spd boots archeron doesn't have crit on it :
@@cornflakebutsilly hmm I see, it's time to use all my self modeling resin to get many no crit spd boot :D
Sparkle would be better at that point
@@Yoru... *lingsha ideal animation closing her nose from stingky smell*
I see the end of the vids, Is this e0 acheron? Would sunday worth it for e0 acheron+JQ instead of using other nihility units?
sunday energy regen would be waste on acheron but sunday S1 extra skill point should help jq+ache using skill almost everyturn(maybe)
Yeah when i used Robin she never felt great when there is only one harmony that could be used in hypercarry. When she has the support or Sparkle/Tingyun tho, she is stellar. But I would rather ise my e1s1 Bronya for Acheron. Now that Sunday is here I can finally switch.
you can also use sunday lc on bronya if you want
Hi Cornflake! So for both E2S1 or E0S1, is it Robin still or Sunday now? considering a switch to speed boots +1 spd over Sunday as a factor vs attk boots on Robin
Robin is slightly better if you play her perfectly and you get the energy rngs right, but Sunday is far more consistent.
@ ty ty, appreciate you!!
Do you need his LC if you already have bronya's?
黄泉2凸餅 サンデー無凸餅でやってくれませんか？ 花火との比較が気になります
This isn't related to the main purpose of the video, i just want to inform you that your Aventurine did 280k while keeping everyone alive as he should.
💪😎 Nice
So I guess 0 cycles for lower eidolon characters is a thing of the past huh?
Indeed the hp of the bosses are insane
HP inflation of bosses go wild
@@Sharkfang3 someone at Hoyo has a serious inflation fetish🙄
Still very much possible
@@ed.2pi 0 cycle is possible
Low cost 0 cycle ? I doubt it
After I got my Acheron to e2 and s1, I don't have pulls for Sunday sadge. But I'm satisfied with just using my Sparkle/e1 FuXuan/JQ on her team even if it's like 20% less efficient in Ult stacking.
I use her with -1 bronya and she hit around 600-900 per ult ( seele moments 😂)
Bruh, isn't that like a busted premium team already?
Cope u want Sunday we all do for our acherons 😢
There's always reruns if you want Sunday eventually. But as it stands, your current Acheron team is still very good to help clear content. So I wouldn't worry too much currently, even if it's technically "worse" now.
@@TheGeekyRedMage my priority now is fugue for my rappa,(and Acheron maybe 🤔) for new I think that is okay to skip him since I am not interested in the new soummon path mechanics , how about you?
Sunday T0🗣️🕊️🔥
Please tell this is e0 acheron?
it is. 5:08
if you watch until the end, you'll see that everyone is e0s1.
@@_JoeVer thx
@@charleslewy6186 thx
Why is there no e0 s0 showcase
You dont need wait to get to 3 extra stacks to ult bro.
peakday indeed
Genuine question, I don't really know about Sunday's numbers. How is he better than E0S1 Sparkle? Is it because Acheron can do faster ults with speed boots?
Sparkle 50% aa just sucks
This team would work well with my E2S1 Acheron because I don't have Sparkle.
You can do better than that with bronya , my e2 s1 Acheron hits around 600-900 per ult ( my crit is 78 with e1 buff 🙃) just make her speed 135 and -1 bronya and the stakes goes crazy
@ don’t skip fugue! She secretly a good unit for Acheron despite being a break buffer
@Aha-is-elation I actually have an E1S1 Lingsha that I can pair with Fugue. That way, Lingsha can apply debuffs for Acheron every time she attacks, including her bunnies.
I feel it to much OP, and you can easily focus more on crit dmg and attack since Sunday provides 20% critRate and Acheron artefact can easily provide her +20% critRate
is sunday lightcone can be used on sparkle?
Nope she can't proc it Sunday ult is st while her's is team wide she can't use it. it's useless to her you rather use her sig or DDD/past and future.
@@genjutsukonoha-py8nf it can ye
every 2 sparkle skill you get 1 extra sp
idk why you would want that much sp tho, QQ rng screwing you over? 😂
@@armihnfruity4788she can use it just fine. she doesn't need, nor is it bis for her, but she can certainly use it - at least as well as bronya does.
only for E2 acheron right? or better than two nihility?
better than 2 nihility
pela + fox boy better. Same numbers, cheaper.
just imagine losing 70% acheron dmg bonus from passive bc 1 nihility in team to get +65% dmg bonus from sunday.
prob 20 critrate and 60cdmg can be good but pela`s def shred give same dmg.
@@badgerEnjoyerno you’re wrong, when Acheron have only one nihility character in team, it would only lose 45% dmg boost. Sunday give 75% dmg boost, 60% crit Dmg and 20% crit Rate which is huge. Also Robin+Jiaoqiu already be better than 2 nihility comps. So that’s it mean Robin/Sunday+Jiaoqiu is better than 1 nihility+Jiaoqiu
@@badgerEnjoyeralso idk what do you talking about
@@Mimic_656 yessir, pela not provide def shred for acheron and faster stacks than sunday. Pela+fox with e0s1 acheron deals 500k-700k from first ult in vulnerability and can easily do 1 mil in 5 target lol.
Sunday overrated for acheron.
Also Can you do a comparison between Jing yuan and acheron with sunday as their Buffer in this MoC?Because So far Youre the most reliable Showcaser in my eyes
Can u try pela ?
Honestly I’m more impressed with Aventurine’s shield being able to keep up with all the 100% AA, If only he’d rerun after Sunday I would’ve gotten that busted e1.
Also good team but you’d be coping if you think your average Acheron main is gonna use a team with 3 men in it
@@sladeTek does this mean I'm not an average Acheron main? (I pulled for Aventurine eidolons instead of hers and kept her at e0 because Aven is my GOAT, am I even considered an "Acheron main" anymore😭)
@@nickn_myaewell considering you pulled aventurine’s eidolons over hers, probably not.
@@sladeTek you right I'm an Aventurine main and Acheron is his support, put in the same team as him to apply debuffs for my boy
@ honestly a good move, aventurine has more longevity than her and at higher eidolons just turns into an actual sub dps.
8-cost to 1-cycle this by the skin of her teeth is absolutely diabolical... basically a PF bot at this point.
Most other dps are only doing at best 1 cycle as well though and they are single target or blast focused. Most 0 cycles usually are sustainless, S5 DDD or Robin nowadays with unrealistic stats and perfect rng I think 1 cycle is absolutely fine right now considering this is the most hp first half has ever had.
dem he is uploading again xD
i'll pull sunday then :3
Is this E2 acheron?
@@ragna6410 builds at the end, E0S1
Please, Acheron + Sparkle + Sunday + Jiaoqiu
CORNFAKE UPLOADE
He isn't even meant for hcarrry
is this team better than Pela JQ Acheron?
well duh
Bronya pro max looking good
Still an odd fit for Sunday. We sacrifice the entirety of his ult Recharge functions for the pairing. Sunday may be better, but I'd rather use Sunday for a different team he can boost more and keep Sparkle with Acheron until we get a tailor-made support for Acheron.
Jiaoqiu is literally the definition of tailor made support for Acheron what else could she possibly want
@@sladeTekshe literally only has 1 premium teammate while still being near the top of the meta and everybody else has entire teams that support them to the fullest. she needs more nihilty units that actually support her
i think it's less of pulling Sunday *for* Acheron, but pulling Sunday to invest in future meta but still making use of him with other DPS
@@princekili1027everyone else’s teams also have more dedicated carries. FuA core supports both Ratio and Fei at minimum (there are other niche options like maindps M7). Lingsha, Fugue, RM slot into all break teams especially now that Fugue can give Lingsha colorless break, so they can support Rappa, Boothill, and Firefly with the ENTIRETY of their kit.
Meanwhile the only unit that can use JQ’s entire kit is Acheron. Let’s face the facts Acheron isn’t an archetype like break or FuA up and it literally makes no sense for the devs to create an entire premium team for just one unit.
If debuff stacking ever does become an actual archetype with multiple carries then she’ll get more kinda tailor made support. Until then it’s just cope, she gets a full premium team when Jingliu gets hers.
@@princekili1027 by everybody else did you mean only feixiao FUA? Cuz DoT doesn't have support yet, break FF/rappa(not as much) is still stuck with HMC and boothill is still using bronya/Sunday who's crit buff is useless, hp drain doesn't have a dedicated support yet, BA doesn't even have a 4pc set. Ult still uses tingyun who's a 4*. My point is an archetype will at most have only one dedicated support and one universal support. Acheron team is already complete, it cannot get any more specific than jiaoqiu.
awesome!
E6 skill e bronya = skill e sunday e0
Reason why Sunday outclasses Sparkle:
135(DPS), 134(Advancer) > 160(Advancer), 101(DPS)
135, 134:
12 turns in 4 cycles
160, 101:
7 turns in 4 cycles
More turns = more damage
More turns = more stacks
Sparkle still surpasses Sunday in terms of overall buff so if she also had a 100% AA, it wouldn't even be a question of who's better. Sparkle 50% AA is what's fucking her up, she always goes before the DPS making the extra turn Skill buff useless (only in cases where you gain Acheron's ult midway).
Am I honest with you? It doesn't seem like a big deal to me. You gave me more reasons to skip
Brother what that team? All having their sigs lol and insane builds like wtf
I need him
I think with enough rng on skill points, E1 bronya with sundays weapon would do better here.
But who has the patience to do a lot of runs with bronya lol, Sunday is king
How in the World Sunday is best Harmony for Midcheron 😅😅😅???
You need to use Gallagher with Robin.
Jing Yuan better than Midacheron 100%
And then our King Yuan would be get powercreep by Aglaea lmao😂
@@Mimic_656 still better than Midacheron😂😂😂
@@nfu2174 Now complain to E2S1 Acheron and E2S1 KING Yuan, who win?
@@Mimic_656 lmao how many invest ment for midacheron to compete lmao😂😂😂
@@Mimic_656Jing Yuan is already performing on par and even better than Acheron just with Sunday at e0s1, this isn’t even with the new buffs and supports we will get with summons in 3.x. If Uglaea is gonna powercreep Jing yuan at least he’ll still get indirect buffs from the summon meta meanwhile Acheron would be falling off so you better be careful what you’re wishing for 🤣🤣
godly jiaoqiu carry bc eagle 160 spd
sparkle still better
insane cope, sparkle already got pushed into the sewer by robin
@@planetbefall4744 with robin e1*
@@planetbefall4744 also why are you talking about robin when i said: "sparkle better than sunday in acheron team"
atleast i tried to say this
@@badgerEnjoyer because Sunday is better than robin here you dufus
@@badgerEnjoyerhow are u that slow…
Hes still essentially Bronya 0.3. Hoyo needs to be more creative with harmony units on god
And they said Acheron wasn't meta anymore e
Congrats, now she hits as hard as JingYuan 😂😂😂
I literally cannot believe how much they hate Sparkle
Everyone does
@@Super-7327i don't
@@bribriibribriiwdc about u
I prefer robin over Sunday for acheron
And shitfly is getting left in the dust once RMC is out so now what
@@sladeTek pull for fugue
@@sladeTek blud forgot that fugue is A better HMC and she is Fire element so she is the perfect support for FF , and who did even mention FF are you that triggered because she is stronger than acheron or what?
@@FireFly_best_girlbetter HMC? Lmfao half the buffs Fugue provide don’t even benefit FF and her superbreak multipliers are way lower than HMC. Fugue has omnibreak and would enable any break unit to do toughness not just fire. There is not a single TCer saying Fugue is better than HMC for FF at e0 so keep being delusional. Also I don’t have Acheron so try again but unfortunately for you FF will experience a harder fall than Acheron because 80% of FF’s damage is tied to HMC ijbol
@@sladeTekI agree. People say Fugue is just an acceptable replacement, they never said she's a good replacement for HMC lmfao. Fugue deals pitiful damage, cannot offer rare buffs unless E1 and her E2 is not even as good as S3 DDD HMC. She is a feigned toughness stuck with mediocre support capabilities. Unless your Firefly is E2, you will see a significant damage loss when facing especially imaginary enemies since HMC can deal an absurd of damage, a decent sub dps and good DDD.
Idk, see no real strength. With Sparkle she clears the first wave with the same speed, but Jiaoqiu has more energy.
And why don't you use QPQ Gallagher with Robin? It's literally the only way to have close to 100% Robin's ultimate uptime
Do you have a video of her clearing with sparkle at the same speed? Are you sure you're not talking about an E2 Acheron?
You don't need gallagher QpQ here because you get free energy from AoE attacks, one in wave 1, two in wave 2. Giving you a total of guaranteed 60 energy just from three attacks.
Sparkle copium
@@cornflakebutsilly it's beta, of course personally I don't have that video, I just talk about my experience.
Standard rotation with Sparkle looks like:
Jiaoqiu E and ult, Sparkle advance, Acheron E and ult. Then few enemies and sustain turns and repeat the first 3 heroes actions. As a result you came to a second wave with 1/3 (or more) Jiaoqiu energy and same 0-1 Acheron ult stacks (depends of enemies and sustain).
What about Robin, you can't say she'll always be attacked by enemies and be able to get enough energy. For example in the current MoC she easily can get 0 attacks during the first cycle, so using Gallagher causes not only enough energy for Robin no matter what enemies will be, but more debuffs for Acheron compared with Aventurine (and lower lim cost, of course)
Just put the fries in the bag bro
8 cost and in matching element lmao, bro fell off hard
Just wait until 3.X comes. All 2.X dps are cooked & it’s not even funny. The hp inflation is just insane lol.
Nerf Sunday
Lmaoooo cope
Sparkle is better for e2s1 acheron. No questions asked. Sunday will be used for summons. The end. Acheron Sparkle Jiaqio and Fu xuan/Aven is bis.
@@dimitristakis6396 True, but no longer true after 2.2 and 2.7
@cornflakebutsilly each harmony will be used in its niche and thats healthy. Sunday should be used with remembrance to be at his full potential and sparkle here. Maximize each harmony, unless sparkle is used for summoners too witch is logical ofc, we ll see! But no one is powercreeping anyone.
He’s definitely good but this can’t serve as proof of anything without and actual comparison to other supports.
Opting for meme clips instead of an actual run for Robin feels intentionally disinformational and disingenuous.
I didn't show Robin's run because her team couldn't 0 cycle wave 1, you can see it here in 5:02.
Robin runs were simply not good enough/clean enough to be used in a comparison.
If you wanna know the reason, you can view my discord server, a couple scrolls and you'll see my messages about her performance.