Deleted the previous video because Jing Yuan was E1 and was overcapping on crit rate by 10% Note: Svarog here is the pre nerf version, the nerfed version has 500k less hp (1.8M)
Actually glad that a beta dps is capable of keeping up with a 2.X dps. I am all for powercreep slowing tf down and older units getting love (Blade next Prayge). With that said, king yuan enjoyers, how we feeling?
I play jing yuan, or atleast tey to but i only use him on the moc 11 and second hardest stages of every other endgame. His investment is crazy to do damage rhats nowhere near as close to my rappa who just has some leftover relics thzt i got
Mid Yuan promoted to King Yuan. Always believed in you king. Realistically I only see prydwen raising him half a tier or one Tier, if not just hit us with the “we still want to see how JY performs in future content” knowing damn well if it was one of their favorites (without mentioning names) they would have sent them straight to T0.5 at least lmao.
@@handy1002 i mean this is hsr , do we have to talk about powercreep 🛌 , especially the fact that its 3.x a new region a new complete path and meta , most characters are cooked also look at the moc its so fkn hard and will be harder in 2.7 and 3.0 , what do u think this means ? It simply means 3.x+ characters are stronger
@cornflakebutsilly Man that's pretty crazy. Didn't expect him to be anywhere close to Robin in that reguard. I have an accidental e1 though, so I might be overestimating Robin in this situation. Either way, Sunday is shaping up to be a fantastic character. Especially with the incoming summon meta. He really does offer something no-one else can.
technically kingyuan wins because his team's cost is lower by 1 (qpq huohuo vs s1 aventurine) xD but yeah great showcase, and thanks for reuploading with e0 kingyuan, because that e1 from before was a little strange to me. now this is perfect, good stuff👍
Deep down we all know it’s going to be postponed until 3.0 last reset Then dropped back to T1 after the new set of stronger dps come in💀 like clockwork. But what matters is JY mains are finding him better on their accounts💪
Hmm so I was able to get a 1 cycle clear using Acheron, Robin, Aventurine and Pela. Without Jiaoqiu the Acheron x Sunday team might not work efficiently
I dont think shell ever get a harmony since her kit works specifically around other nihility teammates. And getting a sustain thats fits her better then aventurine would also be quite hard since he can aply debuffs quite easy.
if u use jiaoqiu ult before the big robot does it aoe for energy and not chargin acheron up to fast so she can be buff by sunday, would it be better? its interesting that lushaka wants the dps to be at the 1st place in the team but no where else so not much flexbility in team placement for energy but not the worse ig
@@Douglasferreira-h4z the only buff acheron get was jiaoqiu and she's still ss dps midyuan can't kill a fly without 6665676 buff + Sunday And aglaea is taking that last one from him soon 😂
160 speed generalistic but in this teamcomp you want a -1 speed sunday since you mainly want jy and lightning lord to take as many turns as possible back to back for max stacks
@@meliho27-1 speed Sunday is always better for any comps (Acheron, IL, Jl,etc). That 16x speed playstyle is only for sparkle due to her bad AA. You will just waste Sunday 100% AA and make him become a sparkle V2
Depends on who you're enabling with fugue, fugue is only good for acheron with gallagher lingsha or aventurine really. Any sustainless comp and she's worthless
@@Alvinmarriedtonickiminaj i would say thats a pretty good team to use with her until you get jiaoqiu to replace pela. It will probably be one of her best teams without jiaoqiu. So long as the sustain is gallagher or aventurine with S1 then its pretty good.
Considering one if is using the two best supports in the game that cant be more perfecty made for him even if they wanted to while the other is using a support that she can utilize only like...half the buffs of. Its a pretty cool showcase. Happy that jingyuan mains will be able to use him when they can
It makes me irrationally angry that Jing Yuan of all character is not only matching Acheron in DPS performance with a full E0S1 team, but in all likelyhood he probably beats her once the Sigs are removed.
Wouldn't worry about that, people who like the characters pull for signatures, and 100% acheron will get a hertha or future event lc that will work for her, as all the light cones they released for nihility were before they thought about this whole thing about making nihility unit a crit dps. Let's also not forget that this is a boss that's good for both, put them against a boss that's not good for lightning and jy will fall way more than acheron without her lc, there's also the fact that acheron is using a support that she can utilize like...only half the buffs he provides while jingyuan is using the two supports that can't buff him more perfectly than this even if they wanted to and they're the two best supports in the game
firefly singlehandedly made all destruction characters jobless while feixiao made all hunt units a laughing stock (except boothill & ratio) but no one bat an eye.
@@e02_v41 they can't even disguise their anger when they see a 1.0 character do the same as a 2.0 character and even more so when they have equal investments.
His skill always recovers the skill point he uses per his trace passive. The only time it doesnt is on the first usage of it or if the skill target is someone other than the one he ulted. His signature makes him generate a skill point every other skill or ult, making him effectively skill point positive.
At E0S0, he recovers skill points when he uses his Skill on a Beatified target (basically a refund). His signature recovers skill points on every two instance of skill or ult.
LMAO to make Acheron shine .. they nerfed Savarog HP ... cause people finding out Acheron is totally craptastic. without her team. so all you Acheron simps better have E2S1 cause Acheron is terrible character. one of the easiest overhyped meta. well lesson for Hoyo to never bring out such a craptastic character again that at E0 did nothing. even Welt was better then Her at E0 with not min max relics. here see Sunday, I can do more with Bronya. then Sunday ever brings.
now imagine if Acheron would actually make use of her trace which increases her dmg by alot when having 2 nihility units in the team. Still hoping for a nihility unit that is similar to bronya/sparkle/Sunday. Would make E2 Acheron better too. Jing Yuan had 9123941204124 buffs and he finally becomes usable. Kinda happy since i always loved his design. The Sibling duo is truly dominating the game.
What are u talking about ?? Acheron's best team is in pair with sudnay robin even at e0 it was proven to be better than 2 nihility It's like removing furina from hutao's team bcs of the little dmg she gets from her low hp
@@YinseireiYou are totally missing the point of his comment. He knows Sunday)robin are better than pela etc, he's saying that imagine if Acheron could use a character like them and still take advantage of her trace buff when there's dual nihility
@unendingvoid i got it that's why i gave that exemple but it seems i misspoke My point is getting a nihility buffer that can buff stats or advance is against the nihility path itself her premium team would never be better than this except if we will get suddenly a 5s pela that can do miracles
@@Yinseirei Yes i know her teams dont worry^^ my issue is Harmony units have 0 problem applying def/res shred so why should nihility supports be locked behind debuffs. i mean yeh it makes sense for the path but in terms of gameplay it just makes nihility supports useless. harmony is always better and not even Acheron who gets dmg increases from nihility actually wants them. Either they make nihility supports have stronger debuffs that dont get removed instantly by a 240 speed enemy boss or they make them a mix like harmony. Well i hope they do... And i have no idea about the genshin example because i quit genshin in sumeru xD.
The same way that i'm happy for Jing Yuan being another 1.X DPS rising to 2.X damage level i' sad because i can't see much more improvement for his teams compared to others 1.X DPS. He's using 100% of his supports and Acheron only have Jiaoqiu as permanent slot.
@@МаркВедровwhile its true that robin isnt Tailored to JY (shes more tailored to dual dps fua teams) shes still a very permanent spot in his team and doesnt feel like shes gonna be replaced anytime soon unlike sparkle for him where everyone was just waiting for the next best (sunday) to come. LL is considered a follow up attack so he benefits from all of robin's buff and also, shes robin lol 😭 acheron's set back is that theres no support that simultaneously triggers her nihility trace And also provides the same dmg increase as a harmony besides JQ
@МаркВедров Robin's niche is FuA and Jing Yuan's kit is all about getting stacks for his Summon LL's FuA. You only misses 25% crit damage in the ultimate and skill damage so that's why i can't see much improvement besides Huohuo
acheron didnt fall off, considering she tied at e0 with only sunday and no robin and jin yuan slightly got the 1 cycle due to robin advancing forward the whole team
Deleted the previous video because Jing Yuan was E1 and was overcapping on crit rate by 10%
Note: Svarog here is the pre nerf version, the nerfed version has 500k less hp (1.8M)
sunday is the best lightning dps on the thumbnail
save us Aglaea
@crysts4429 stop stalking me christian...
@@abokix I see you...
Bro is not even Lightning
The strongest lightning dps of today VS The strongest lightning dps of today
Stand proud jing yuan are battle was legendary
*lightning
@@TheoDimitry how i missed it two times? 💀
@@lucassa5083 it do be like that sometimes, have a good day
midyuan
Aglaea in January "hold my beer".
the beer of beauty
Yes ma'am
i want her puppets 🤤
The strongest lightning DPS of today vs the strongest lightning DPS of today vs the strongest lightning DPS of tomorrow
Actually glad that a beta dps is capable of keeping up with a 2.X dps. I am all for powercreep slowing tf down and older units getting love (Blade next Prayge).
With that said, king yuan enjoyers, how we feeling?
Hp scaling is up next so blade might actually be good (the other hp dps characters are still gonna be better tho same with aglea)
I play jing yuan, or atleast tey to but i only use him on the moc 11 and second hardest stages of every other endgame. His investment is crazy to do damage rhats nowhere near as close to my rappa who just has some leftover relics thzt i got
I just cleared MoC 12 with him, can't wait to get sunday for my JY
blade would need a kit overhaul and multiplier buffs to go from bad to mid
@@luizlopes6574 Leaks
There may be a HP scaling support for blade in tribbie
sunday's cr boost is so helpful with acheron's set that's a free 32 crate he really is jesus
44% crit rare with fu xuan it's broken asf
OMG, Jingyuan is now competitive! Happy to see this video!
When the DPS that get every single advantage from the support is on par with the DPS that doesn't really benefit from it :
T0.5 Jing Yuan incoming 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️❗❗❗❗❗
Mid Yuan promoted to King Yuan. Always believed in you king.
Realistically I only see prydwen raising him half a tier or one Tier, if not just hit us with the “we still want to see how JY performs in future content” knowing damn well if it was one of their favorites (without mentioning names) they would have sent them straight to T0.5 at least lmao.
T1 at best since aglaea will throw both down
@@khaledbou7770Aglaea's official kits arent even revealed yet duh
@@handy1002 i mean this is hsr , do we have to talk about powercreep 🛌 , especially the fact that its 3.x a new region a new complete path and meta , most characters are cooked also look at the moc its so fkn hard and will be harder in 2.7 and 3.0 , what do u think this means ? It simply means 3.x+ characters are stronger
even with power creep that doesnt mean old characters are bad. if jing yuan is 0.5 then if aglaea power creeps him aglaea will just be in tier 0
Happy for both kingyuan and acheron
Been looking for a hypercarry ratio showcase with Sunday I think that could be decent.
200 pull ready for My Lord Sundayy🧎🧎
So are Sunday and Robin pretty much neck and neck when it comes to being a support in an E0 Acheron team?
Yes, Sunday is more consistent and Robin can give you slightly more dmg if conditions are met.
@cornflakebutsilly Man that's pretty crazy. Didn't expect him to be anywhere close to Robin in that reguard. I have an accidental e1 though, so I might be overestimating Robin in this situation. Either way, Sunday is shaping up to be a fantastic character. Especially with the incoming summon meta. He really does offer something no-one else can.
You forgot to add Arlan
Wrong comparison... Acheron really wants at least two Nihility prior to E2...
it has been proven that sunday and/or robin gives acheron more damage than a 2nd nihility teammate (assuming jiaoqiu is there)
technically kingyuan wins because his team's cost is lower by 1 (qpq huohuo vs s1 aventurine) xD
but yeah great showcase, and thanks for reuploading with e0 kingyuan, because that e1 from before was a little strange to me. now this is perfect, good stuff👍
Waiting for aglaea 🗣️
Nice
Yay my goat :3
Surely Prydwen will put JY in tier 0.5, surely
Deep down we all know it’s going to be postponed until 3.0 last reset
Then dropped back to T1 after the new set of stronger dps come in💀 like clockwork.
But what matters is JY mains are finding him better on their accounts💪
He hates male characters, so unlikely
@@HazZzel-Ratio is T0.5 tho
@@Lupper0205 He had to put him high or there would be a riot
@@sev559only in patch
Could you do Dan heng IL e0s0 with Sunday e0s0 and sparkle e0s0? That’s going to be my hyper carry teaming and I haven’t seen anyone do it yet 😅
YEAAAAAAAAAAAH, thanks
Hmm so I was able to get a 1 cycle clear using Acheron, Robin, Aventurine and Pela. Without Jiaoqiu the Acheron x Sunday team might not work efficiently
@@KiraYoshikage-22 depends on your build and eidolons
Robin and sunday are both equally good for acheron
Robin showcase 🥱
600k acheron dmg and it barely scratches svarog hp and the additional mob. Im cooked 💀
when she gets her own harmony and sustain itll be okidoki
I dont think shell ever get a harmony since her kit works specifically around other nihility teammates. And getting a sustain thats fits her better then aventurine would also be quite hard since he can aply debuffs quite easy.
Maybe a harmony that buffs having characters of the same path on a team? It'd be good for Acheron and also Herta/Himeko
@@redsky397Only with S1 and depending on the context
@@redsky397 could just make a harmony unit and then label them nihility
Finallyy midyuan will be used after getting Sunday, robin end midget are already prepared for team 😂
can you please do a superbreak xueyi video with e1 fugue hmc and lingsha and have xueyi on firefly lc
my team in acheron, aventurine, bronya e2, and kafka/gallagher (all is e0), who should I pull? or just skip it?
if u use jiaoqiu ult before the big robot does it aoe for energy and not chargin acheron up to fast so she can be buff by sunday, would it be better? its interesting that lushaka wants the dps to be at the 1st place in the team but no where else so not much flexbility in team placement for energy but not the worse ig
damn not even getting the 160% final multiplier
ratio sunday jiaoqiu and aven next pls
In a E0 Acheron team with Acheron,Pela,Avent would robin or guinaifen be the better 4th?
me
Girl be serious, i also wanna know the answer😂@DaRealSk.
@@Alvinmarriedtonickiminaj 🤣🤣 atp if you lot don’t have JQ in ur acheron team ur just cooked
robin 100%, her buffs outweigh the need for a second nihility. guinaifen is not worth it
Robin
If only acheron is e0s1 and the rest(JQ,Aven,Sunday) are e0s0 will this team still be better than running e6 pella in place of sunday?
Yes
1.0 unit btw
Yea and like 2 buffs every update and he still midyuan 😂
@@itsalex1364 wow, so you're saying the same thing to acheron, is it MIDcheron?🤔🤣
@@Douglasferreira-h4z the only buff acheron get was jiaoqiu and she's still ss dps midyuan can't kill a fly without 6665676 buff + Sunday
And aglaea is taking that last one from him soon 😂
This is more like Sunday fixing JY's main problem of backloaded DMG. Without Sunday, JY still sucks tbh.
Wait Acheron is E0 and dosen't need 2 Nihilitis.
2 nihility is worse than robin or Sunday even at E0
Pela is good but she is 1.0 4 star
@@tiredandlazyonly Robin can replace a second nihility in a E0 acheron team
@@Luuk45798 they perform basically the same
@@Luuk45798 robin and sunday are equally as strong in acheron teams
Is it me or did they nerf acheron? Cus i remember when she first came out i was able to crit atleast 20k but now every crit she only did around 1k
so? Sunday is worth to put for him and put it with archeron? I don't know if i need change bronya to him
If your Acheron is e2 robin is better,if not a second nihility like pela or sw are close. Sunday is going to buff summoners better than non summoners
Sunday with 160 speed would be better then -1 speed sunday or should I just aim for 134 speed and as much crit dmg as it is possible ?
-1 Sunday is astronomically better
160 speed generalistic but in this teamcomp you want a -1 speed sunday since you mainly want jy and lightning lord to take as many turns as possible back to back for max stacks
@@meliho27 no, -1 sunday is always better, regardless of the team - because he's essentially an sp-positive bronya (with signature)
@@_JoeVer okey
@@meliho27-1 speed Sunday is always better for any comps (Acheron, IL, Jl,etc). That 16x speed playstyle is only for sparkle due to her bad AA. You will just waste Sunday 100% AA and make him become a sparkle V2
The jingyuan better than acheron agendas are bout to get so nasty when sunday releases 😭
How good is fugue as only nihility for my e2 acheron team
fugue isnt that good for acheron tbh, jiaoqui is the person you want for your acheron
Depends on who you're enabling with fugue, fugue is only good for acheron with gallagher lingsha or aventurine really. Any sustainless comp and she's worthless
@Cammando what if you don't have fugue? I'm planning on running an
e1 s1 archeon,
e0s0 or 1 sunday (not sure),
E6 pela
Sustain
How does it sound?
@@Alvinmarriedtonickiminaj i would say thats a pretty good team to use with her until you get jiaoqiu to replace pela. It will probably be one of her best teams without jiaoqiu. So long as the sustain is gallagher or aventurine with S1 then its pretty good.
@@Alvinmarriedtonickiminaj that works perfectly fine, then when you get jiaoqui just replace pela, fugue is nihility but not for acheron
Considering one if is using the two best supports in the game that cant be more perfecty made for him even if they wanted to while the other is using a support that she can utilize only like...half the buffs of. Its a pretty cool showcase. Happy that jingyuan mains will be able to use him when they can
Why your Acheron team doesnt use 2 nihilities when she is e0?
I don't think it's that compulsory
Sunday is better than 2x nihility
because acheron using 2 nihility does fewer cycles, even less than jing yuan, as he is already doing the same cycle as her.
@@cornflakebutsilly sustainless acheron jiaoqiu pela sunday?
It makes me irrationally angry that Jing Yuan of all character is not only matching Acheron in DPS performance with a full E0S1 team, but in all likelyhood he probably beats her once the Sigs are removed.
To be fair acheron relics are pretty mid and jings arent
Wouldn't worry about that, people who like the characters pull for signatures, and 100% acheron will get a hertha or future event lc that will work for her, as all the light cones they released for nihility were before they thought about this whole thing about making nihility unit a crit dps. Let's also not forget that this is a boss that's good for both, put them against a boss that's not good for lightning and jy will fall way more than acheron without her lc, there's also the fact that acheron is using a support that she can utilize like...only half the buffs he provides while jingyuan is using the two supports that can't buff him more perfectly than this even if they wanted to and they're the two best supports in the game
Whats wrong with JY being as strong as Acheron?
firefly singlehandedly made all destruction characters jobless while feixiao made all hunt units a laughing stock (except boothill & ratio) but no one bat an eye.
@@e02_v41 they can't even disguise their anger when they see a 1.0 character do the same as a 2.0 character and even more so when they have equal investments.
Does Sunday ALWAYS recover a skill point or is that in his signature?????
He recovers sp everytime IF you use his skill on the character that has his ultimate buff active.
its in his kit 😭
His skill always recovers the skill point he uses per his trace passive. The only time it doesnt is on the first usage of it or if the skill target is someone other than the one he ulted. His signature makes him generate a skill point every other skill or ult, making him effectively skill point positive.
At E0S0, he recovers skill points when he uses his Skill on a Beatified target (basically a refund).
His signature recovers skill points on every two instance of skill or ult.
Both. His skill have a passive that makes he recover 1 SP and his sig gives one SP every 2 skills/ults that buffs one ally.
LMAO to make Acheron shine .. they nerfed Savarog HP ... cause people finding out Acheron is totally craptastic. without her team.
so all you Acheron simps better have E2S1 cause Acheron is terrible character. one of the easiest overhyped meta. well lesson for Hoyo to never bring out such a craptastic character again that at E0 did nothing. even Welt was better then Her at E0 with not min max relics. here see Sunday, I can do more with Bronya. then Sunday ever brings.
now imagine if Acheron would actually make use of her trace which increases her dmg by alot when having 2 nihility units in the team.
Still hoping for a nihility unit that is similar to bronya/sparkle/Sunday. Would make E2 Acheron better too.
Jing Yuan had 9123941204124 buffs and he finally becomes usable. Kinda happy since i always loved his design.
The Sibling duo is truly dominating the game.
What are u talking about ?? Acheron's best team is in pair with sudnay robin even at e0 it was proven to be better than 2 nihility
It's like removing furina from hutao's team bcs of the little dmg she gets from her low hp
@@YinseireiYou are totally missing the point of his comment. He knows Sunday)robin are better than pela etc, he's saying that imagine if Acheron could use a character like them and still take advantage of her trace buff when there's dual nihility
@unendingvoid i got it that's why i gave that exemple but it seems i misspoke
My point is getting a nihility buffer that can buff stats or advance is against the nihility path itself her premium team would never be better than this except if we will get suddenly a 5s pela that can do miracles
@@unendingvoid idk if they were hoping for that or just speaking 😭 so i might really got their cmnt wrong
@@Yinseirei Yes i know her teams dont worry^^
my issue is Harmony units have 0 problem applying def/res shred so why should nihility supports be locked behind debuffs. i mean yeh it makes sense for the path but in terms of gameplay it just makes nihility supports useless. harmony is always better and not even Acheron who gets dmg increases from nihility actually wants them.
Either they make nihility supports have stronger debuffs that dont get removed instantly by a 240 speed enemy boss or they make them a mix like harmony.
Well i hope they do...
And i have no idea about the genshin example because i quit genshin in sumeru xD.
The same way that i'm happy for Jing Yuan being another 1.X DPS rising to 2.X damage level i' sad because i can't see much more improvement for his teams compared to others 1.X DPS. He's using 100% of his supports and Acheron only have Jiaoqiu as permanent slot.
Well Robin for JY isn’t tailored support so it’s equal for acheron+jq and Sunday+jy
@@МаркВедровwhile its true that robin isnt Tailored to JY (shes more tailored to dual dps fua teams) shes still a very permanent spot in his team and doesnt feel like shes gonna be replaced anytime soon unlike sparkle for him where everyone was just waiting for the next best (sunday) to come. LL is considered a follow up attack so he benefits from all of robin's buff and also, shes robin lol 😭
acheron's set back is that theres no support that simultaneously triggers her nihility trace And also provides the same dmg increase as a harmony besides JQ
@МаркВедров Robin's niche is FuA and Jing Yuan's kit is all about getting stacks for his Summon LL's FuA. You only misses 25% crit damage in the ultimate and skill damage so that's why i can't see much improvement besides Huohuo
sunday+jq is better than 2nih though for acheron even at e0s1
@@yaoiirlyou don’t think we’ll get a summons support? Sunday is pretty much like a ruan mei we still don’t have a hmc/fugue
Watch Aglaea dumpster both of them
Watch Castorice power creeping Aglaea after 2 patches
Acheron getting a taste of her own medicine
@@squakkkkkMore like Seele fans trying to win against reality
@@squakkkkk ikr, getting Uglya is such an obvious and stupid mistake when we all know that castorice will bench her literally 2 patches later lol
Aglea doesn't look like she's going to be that strong, people are saying she's Tier B
God dayum, Acheron has really fallen off…
Only being able to tie with Jim Kimble is diabolical.
Don't view it as Acheron falling off ... View it as the rise of king yuan
acheron didnt fall off, considering she tied at e0 with only sunday and no robin and jin yuan slightly got the 1 cycle due to robin advancing forward the whole team
Acheron fallen off? Nah JY got better.
Also I think she still holds the advantage in sustainless runs(this is where she has always popped off tbh)
no one fell off, kingyuan just peaked.
Star rail is so ass, the way they "buff" characters is by introducing other characters 😂😂😂😂
It's called being creative + getting more money, I'll admit its a cash grab , but it's creative
thats how gacha games work lol
better than the devs completely botching the game's balance every version with balance patches🤣
@@_JoeVer its literally this game
That’s the way it works in gacha 99% of the time
Please im begging cut the sustains from theres showcases you dont need them
99% of players use sustains
@sev559 when showcasing the potential of characters it's important to have multiple points of comparison