Charon: Pluto's Eerie Twin
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I'd rather not, ta.
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@@Not_a_Lizard_ It is the Russian way.
Pluto and Charon are not drunk dancers! They are sober contra dancers executing a balance and swing.
By the time the Persephone mission gets to Pluto and Charon, Simon *might* have decided he has enough UA-cam channels 🤣
Never!
About once a month for the last few years I've found a new Simon channel. How many more are out there? or maybe I shouldn't ask how the sausage is made
@@twonumber22 there's a lot. I got caught in an algorithm trap a few weeks back where all my video suggestions were all his channels.
Why do they keep sending the gods wives to check up on them?
At this point I think he's merely being paid by people else to host them. He has an ability to speak to the camera and keep you engrossed most people don't have.
"A plan to give Uranus a Hard probing" Simon emphasised the word Hard, he knew what he was doing 😉
I plan to give Uranus a hard probing tonight. Cocktails and telescopes are a fun mix.
The Uranus jokes on these videos are relentless.
@@RegrettablyLongwinded Uranus is never-ending.
Don't threaten me with a good time
Who’s Simon
I refuse to believe that Charon isnt hiding a Mass Relay.
I was looking for this comment. Thank you
I got a bad feeling about it
*Angry Reaper noises intensify*
Thank you
Cerberus here, it will be ok.
Astronomer who discovered Pluto’s moon wanted to name it after wife. Naming council said, “No. That’s crass.” Astronomer: “Ok Ok. I’ll name it Charon from Greek mythology. In theme with Pluto, he carries the souls of those who have been given funeral rites across the rivers Acheron and Styx, which separate the worlds of the living and the dead.” Council: “Whew. Thanks, that’s better. By the way, what is your wife’s name anyway?” Astronomer: “It’s Sharon.” Maybe true story. I heard this from my 8th grade science teacher.
🤣😂
According to infallible Wikipedia her name was Charlene but she went by "Char" and 'Charon' was his attempt to render her name in a science-y fashion; to his later delight discovered the mythological aspect to the name which he thought he had made up.
@@autarchex You are The Wind Beneath My Wings. I was afraid to look it up and find l was full of it.
Always had my doubts on that story tbh, given that the ancient greek pronounication of the mythological "Charon" would apparently be closer sounding to "KAR-ron" or "HAR-ron", which to my ear doesn't really rhyme well with Sharon IMO... 🤔
Unfortunately, he was less successful in getting the 2nd moon named, "Osbourne".
Love Pluto and Charon. Sadly Pluto got demoted on my birthday, but though it might have been a loss for planets it was a huge win for dwarf planets, which people never thought much about before. Love the videos!
Ohana means Family. And Family means Nobody is left behind.
People have to stop using the word "demoted" - even Simon. Pluto got RE-CLASSIFIED.
Little people planets.
Wasn't a real demotion, just a re categorization. Our understanding of 'planet' has changed a bunch since 1930. If pluto is a major planet, then we have 26 and more to come, if it's a dwarf planet, then we have 8 major and 22 dwarfs with more to come.
There currently is a very, very likely change on the horizon to change pluto to a 'binary planet' as Simon mentioned in the video.
@@InvestmentJoy There was no sudden change in our "understanding". It was just a reclassification. And no one yet has justified with a scientific argument why the number of planets in our solar system is an issue.
The major argument is that it's too much for school children to memorize. The same school children who have no problem memorizing all the state's and their capitals, all the Countries and the multiplication tables? That's the age when you are supposed to memorize lots of things
Charon in Greek mythology was the ferryman for the dead, ferrying them across the river Styx into the Underworld.
Nyx is the Goddess of the night and Charons mother. Kerberos or Cerberus the three headed dog and guard of the Underworld. And last but not least Hydra lived in the lake of Lerna which was an entrance to the Underworld. Love that scientists named them in the order you would see them if you went to the Underworld.
Don't pay the ferryman.
Don't even fix a price.
Don't pay the ferryman
Until he gets you to the other side.
@@urikorsikov843
The Ferryman: You're not getting in my boat till I get my 2 pennies.
Every time Simon said Charon, all I heard was Ozzy yelling "Sharron!!".
These subsurface oceans (though still technically speculative) are endlessly fascinating. Would love to see missions to here, Enceladus, Titan and several other moons. I think it's rapidly getting easier and cheaper.
As much as I'd love to see a mission to Enceladus, I think it is probably a sterile place(and it really pains me to say this).
@@alanwright7498 I dunno about _sterile_ but I will say that more attention and hopes for possible life, all backed by the science and factual data (as we understand it) currently available to us, is given to Europa, Titan, Mars, Venus. Enceladus may be more viable for life than all our possibilities, but you're correct in implying a lot of scientists merely push it to the wayside, _especially_ after Europa. This particular Jovian satellite simply takes the cake when it comes to talks of life out there within our very own [solar] system.
Sure. If you can wait ten years or more. 😂
It probably won't happen in any of our lifetimes but I'd like to see a future with drovers on every terrestrial moon.
The scale of such a mission would be insane though.
@@raidkoast might just happen in our lifetime, space agencies, both public and private, are growing quickly in quantity and quality
Man, the outer solar system is peak awesome. These distant worlds speak to the imagination in ways that few other things can. The Kuiper belt being so distant is a curse however, it takes a decade to get there.
I have high hopes for the Persephone mission. New Horizons was something that I spend a good chunk of my developing years anxiously waiting for. I bored so many people to tears gushing about how cool that mission was. Let's hope that we make some good progress at getting things to the outer solar system faster, way faster. I'd like to see these worlds get studied before I end up back in diapers.
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Literally reads as Ultrakill level names...
Amazing
@@higueraft571 "middle of the roll advertisements"
I love this pair, possibly my favorite two objects in our star system. They seem like such an odd couple, we can only imagine how cool they would be up close.
They're a planetary system in minature!
It's a lot like Joker and Harley Quinn
His wife thought he was being sweet. His thoughts tho, 'oh I big ball of ice and methane? Sounds like my wife!' 🤣
I love how Simon works a probing Uranus joke in most of these astrographics videos. My inner child is entertained.
We need to evolve past these jokes and properly rename it to Urectum
@@cjpolett2055 badumpa! 🥁
@@cjpolett2055 Let's just cut to the chase, and name it "Space Butt". Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Space Butt, Neptune.
@@cjpolett2055 Urectum? You damn near killed 'im!
My inner child perused the comments JUST to see who else remarked on the Uranus joke!
First journey into the Whistlerverse today! Epic. Cheers from Tennessee
I was binge watching all of the planet videos and suddenly realised that this is very recent, nice
“Moonlets” To damn cure
To be fair, Pluto is pretty eerie, as well.
Have it on good authority that Charon is a mass effect relay encased in ice.
I'm 100% sure there is a mass relay in the center of Charon for humanity to use for instance space travel.
With the way things are going I'm not holding put much hope that civilization will still be around to enjoy these discoveries.
The Charon mass relay…
Love anything about our old 9th planet.
Note: Comparing the Bible to space exploration is not an Apples to Apples thing.
Agreed, the Pluto-Charon system is one of the most intriguing places we've ever discovered.
Its still the 9th planet to me, damn it!
Lol
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 It should have been marked #10/11. Ceres should still be # 5. It got demoted for no good reason. My rule, if it's round and orbiting the sun (as opposed to orbiting another body orbiting the sun), it's a planet. Pluto-Charon are a double planet by most any metric.Their barycenter is outside Pluto by a wide margin. On that note, the Earth and Moon could be argued to be a double, but for now their barycenter is still inside Earth.
@@baahcusegamer4530 by for now you mean in the future their barycenter might fall outside of Earth?
@@cariyaputta I read that it's possible that the barycenter could eventually fall outside of Earth in the distant future. Expect to see the definition(s) of planets to continue to change as astronomers continue discovering strange new worlds beyond our solar system that challenge our preconceptions. My personal take is we'd do well to accept the inevitable: that we have a hellavua lot of planets in our own system with multiple ways of classifying them: inner/outer/kuiper, rocky/gas/icy, etc. If we want to keep it simple: if it's round and its barycenter with an satellites falls within its solid surface (or point where atmospheric is equal to earth at sea level) just call it a planet and be done with it.
Look, however the relationship between Pluto and Charon stands, I just hope it's Plutonic.
Big reason the new mission will take so long isn't that it MUST go slower by definition but that its budget has been seriously underfunded to where it can't be launched on a rocket large enough to carry the fuel and engines needed to go faster.
Economics, not fundamental physics, determine the speed at which it will fly.
It's like your employer saying you'll get funding to lease an e-bike for your 50km commute because they won't give you the budget for a car.
Let's get Charon to be the second most viewed astronomy Geographics video. It is only right that it is next to Pluto in views.
Queue "Sails of Charon" a certified rocker and banger
Scorpions rule!!!
Everybody knows that Charon is not a celestial body but a Mass Relay...
Pluto and Charon aren't facing each other. They're back to back because they've been together too long.
I think it happened sometime between their engagement and their marriage
I can just imagine Pluto shouting at Charon like it was ozzy osborne... :P
Hooch filled hobos: that’s a perfect turn of phrase.
I couldn't help thinking of Ozzy Osbourne when you kept saying Cheron. Cheron ! where's my bleeping remote !.
I see no reason to delay or remove the Pluto/Cheron mission. The Mars mission is only valuable if we explore. Same with the Pluto system. We are missing a vital opportunity. Perhaps another Space Assosiation will take up the mantle and spread its wings out there and on to the Kyper belt.
It's difficult enough getting as far as Mars or Venus, Pluto is even moreso. Let's just take our time in getting there.
Yes. Do it now so we don't have to wait. Send it speedy with a brake.
9:44 Percival Lowell was not only the founder of the observatory but more to the point the man who wanted a powerful telescope to prove definitely he existence of Schiaparelli's Martian "canali" (erroneously translated to "canals" when in Italian it just means "channels", hence without any artificial construction implication and alien civilization subtext).
🤣Uranus ... hard probing. That one almost got by me. On a serious note. I LOVE your videos!
Modern humans: Have to be "a bit baked" to notice a heart shaped object.
Great video! So much we DON'T know about this moon and yet it's still astounding just what we DO know!
Any chance, while you and the team are delving about in the dark corners of the solar system, that we might hear about some of the other "weird moons" out there, such as Mimas or Miranda?
Everyone always forgets about Charon what a rough deal.
I don't think Charon particularly cares. If there was intelligent life there, it would know less about us than we know about Charon.
I think that charon might still have an underwater ocean due to the close tidal locked orbit it has with pluto pulling on each other,
I don't think so, tidal heating is caused by the planet pulling the moon in different parts; the tides on Earth move around the world as the Earth gets pulled by the moon at different points. Since Pluto and Charon are tidallt locked, they don't really pull around each other anymore. Think like a match and a sandpaper, if you hold them against each other, nothing happens. It is only when you scrape the match against it that the match begind to burn.
I think Pluto is the most beautiful planet (I guess dwarf planet). It's so amazing that we have these pictures of it.
Sad ending. If the new project had been on this decade's priority list, it would be getting to the Pluto/Charon binary dwarf planet system in 2058. It was not on that list. Maybe it'll happen a decade later, or maybe not. Either way, I don't expect to see the results. You got my hopes up, Simon, only to crush them.
My expectations are low, I know I'll be deader than a door nail by then. Heck I'll be lucky to reach retirement in 2059 without something happening to me beforehand.
Pluto's creepy twin? Do they walk around a haunted hotel asking Danny to come play with them?
"...give Uranus a hard probing..." Thank you, good sir, for leaning into the phonetic accident that most astronomy presenters go out of their way to avoid (ex.: Urinus). Normally I feel like I'm laughing AT someone for flinching. About damn time that I feel like I'm laughing WITH someone about it.
Remember to mark down your calendars for 2149 when humanity discovers that Charon is in fact a frozen Mass Relay that will allow the Systems Alliance and humanity as a whole to join galactic society and find a place on the Citadel.
Thank you , Simon for your kind words regarding 'much-loved' Pluto. The other problem that I heard regarding the next probe is that Pluto is approaching its longer part of its eliptical orbit which will put it even further afield. I shall not be around to see those pictures, unfortunately. Perhaps in the next life.
AstroGraphics my favourite sub group on this channel!
Astrographics is so much better then Spaceographics 😆 which was my attempt at it. Love it 👍🏻
Me too! AstroGraphics, good name! 👍
I think AstroGraphics is the unofficial name space fans have given this series.
I wonder why Pluto's heart shaped area was not named:
The Valentine?
Due to tidal locking and even with current technology materials, a "tower" can be built connecting Pluto and Charon.
Wheels of various diameters can then be built along the length of the tower, with different rotation speeds and so different gravities.
The dark region below it is named Chthulu.
Star Trek (TOS) “Let that be your last battlefield.” Trekkers will know what I’m talking about.
I want to start a campaign to change the name of "Pluto" to "Ozzy".
He named a planet after his wife… now if that isn’t real love. Then I don’t know what is.
A moon.
Charon is a gigantic frozen beer? Screw colonizing Mars!
The best part is when they discover that Charon is actually a dormant mass relay that serves as a gateway to allow humanity to begin exploring beyond our solar system.
yeah, there was talk in the 1960s when Pluto's size kept being revised downward, that this world might be denser than even Mercury. Back then they still thought it was nudging Neptune's orbit.
An alien structure would get the job done.
I figured someone had to have made this comment. Surprised I've only seen the one, honestly.
3:21 get yourself a men who looks at you the way Charon looks at Pluto lol
Sitting here nodding sagely as he says "...just 100 million years ago" like I can actually imagine that span of time.
Pluto: "Dwarf" planet is offensive and hurts my feelz! ... I'm a "Dimensionally Challenged" planet! 😜
I'm your moon. You're my moon. We go round and round.
From out here, it's the rest of the world that looks so small.
Promise me you will always remember who you are.
Who you were, long before they said you were no more.
Pluto wasn't demoted, it's status as a dwarf planet was recognized : )
He's just a little moon like Triton that had to go off on his own!
Once you play the snail. You can’t ever escape the snail
I love how every video has the same comment saying " start a astrographics channel " and to see you quote that here is just *chef's kiss*
Seeing the price tags mentioned here, I can only imagine how much we could get done if humans didn't squander resources on dumb shit like wars or buying Twitter for a 420 meme price of $54.20 per share.
Honestly the craziest thing I learned is Texas is big enough to be considered a dwarf planet
Pluto wasn't demoted. It was reclassified.
Legend has it, Simon sleeps only once per plutonian year. His UA-cam presence is obviously proof
You say, "...like hooch-filled hobos..." like it's a bad thing
Simon's love of space and science has really been shining in recent videos, and I am so happy for him.
1:49 Saying “Charon dominates in Pluto’s moon family” is like saying “Jeff Bezos has more money than the average person”. It’s a massive understatement
We need to get further out in the Kuiper belt because they're actually rocky planets again after that so could be interesting
Love these Geographics on the planets and moons. would love to see one on Mrianda(moon of Uranus).
Miranda is one of my favorite moons too.
It's cool that Christy was able to see what Charon looked like.
Charon? Don't you mean Kharon?
After all, you know what they say...
"Charon IS Kharon"
Can't imagine how Pluto can exist for billions of years with a karen orbiting around it.
That's why he immediately gave her the cold shoulder.
In the Star Wars mythos, there is a planet called Onderon, with a satellite called Dxun. Each had an atmosphere, which periodically comes into contact with each other, not only exchanging gases, but also allow fauna to cross.
Top 10 Retirement Holmes’s 😂😂 love it Simon
Dammit, Fact Boy, now Im depressed! I just got my appetite up for more knowledge about Pluto and Charon, and then u end up telling me, I'll probably have to live to be 100 for that to happen 😢
I love this pair, possibly my favorite two objects in our star system.
What's wrong with Siriusr, Betelgeuse and Rigel? At least you can SEE them.
@@diogeneslantern18, nothing wrong with them, I just particularly love the weird thing Pluto and Charon have going on.
The Greek mythology guy , the Boat Man , that brings you across the River Styx to the Underworld , bring change
Haha~ the Persephone mission will be more important than the Bible. Funny.
Neptune doesn’t get enough love, it’s my favorite planet.
Pff Neptune…
Actually I like Neptune. I’m just not a fan of the gas giants.
I dig these videos. I dig all you-all's productions. Please keep them us. Enjoy the holidays all
A freezing bottle of beer doesn't splinter the bottle the cap pops off due to it being the weakest link expansion always takes the path of least resistance
Learning that Pluto is a bonded pair with a big heart facing towards Charon makes me love it so much more
There's one reason the Kuiper object known as Pluto is so popular: American chauvinism. It was the only solar system planet discovered by an American until it was declared "not a planet".
The irony of the "shot joke" alcohol is an organic molecule LOL
space travel always trips me out… this isn’t the same as going to the edge of our solar system by any means, but reminds me of the scenario where a ship full of people in cryo sleep is sent to a vastly distant planet only to find a human colony already set up upon arrival. This being because after a few hundred years technology had advanced far enough to get a ship there exponentially quicker than the one sent generations prior. 😂
Earth hell we’ve got the Grand Canyon Charon hold my beer
Thank you for the pause for the subsurface ocean conversation
Sharon? We say CHaron with a ch as in lochness, As in the boatsman, "Who pays the ferryman?".
The moon is named after the discovers wife, Charlene so both of yours are wrong.
Technically, all 1-moon planets circle together around a single point. Multi-moon planets also circle around a kind of set of points mumble mumble three-body-problem.
(if you don't know what the 3-body problem refers to, it's the difficulty of solving multiple-body problems regarding gravity.)
Even the sun does this dance with Jupiter.
I keep visualizing Ozzy Osbourne calling for "Charon!"
If it did get there in 2058... well, I won't be around, I'd be 105! And right now 80 is looking like a hard bar to cross.
Pluto named after Goofy’s dog.
I walk back into the room just in time to hear, "...give Uranus a hard probing" bravo Simon.
I wonder. . .How big would pluto and Charon have to before their gravitational tug of war would be enough to heat eachother up enough to be habital?
You are talking tides, so they could be almost arbitrarily big for their size to matter.
I suppose you could look into Roche Worlds...
Actually Pluto does have a warm core and a suspected liquid ocean. It's not known if thus is from tidal forces with Charon alone or if there is radioactive material inside Pluto giving it it's warmth. Something similar may be happening on our own Moon as it has an onternal temperature within the high 50's low 60's (°F) going down about 50 feet or so (about 15 meters).
If Pluto does have liquid water, that underground zone may be habital, having a temperature and pressure much more hospitable than the surface.
And if this is true for Pluto, there may be other large objects with similar habitability in interstellar space that could serve as weigh stations between star systems.
Damn you Simon! Pluto is a planet!
That Satellite ratio looks pretty closely matched by Orcus and Vanth from the graphic at about 20 minutes...
-Shawn
The barycenter is Outside Pluto.
So Yeah, Charon is Definitely
Not a Moon of Pluto. 😊
Way back in the early 80s when there was talk about the possibility of 'planet X', it was given the provisional name of Persephone, I wonder why that never panned out...
If you count the dwarfs, including Ceres, Pluto would be Planet X.
Eris was named..., uh, Eris, which is Persephone.
You're welcome Simon. I've watched the Pluto episode like 10 times already.
Weird that people can be obsessed with something you can only see with the largest telescopes. I had no problem with Pluto's reclassification in 2006.
I declare that in my household, Pluto remains the 9th Planet.