Really great vids. From my world view it's impossible to escape the forms. For example, if you think I'm wrong, you now have just instantiated the form of disagreement.
so maybe my understanding is off... but trying to understand the substance/essence sitation and apply it to people: would it stand to reason somebody with, say late stage alzhiemers or dementia could lose their essence depite retaining thier substance? or, alternatively, somebody in a coma?
Plato says your mind vagely remembers the world of forms because your soul saw it before you were born! Its not something your mind can just access easily. Its just the opposite: once in this world the direct access the world of the forms takes a huge effort (leaving the cave).
@Christopher Mayer this is what I thought. Also, would you say the author of this video is accurate in saying that Christianity's idea of heaven is based on Plato's theory of forms? If so, who Incorporated Plato's theories into Christianity?
@@adamhands2537 I think it's the other way around, Aristotle's work didn't start to get influential untill the late medieval period when it inspired the nominalists.
Early Christians used Neoplatonism as a framework for their philosophy, this doesn’t mean that Christians copied but that they both criticised and embraced Neoplatonic ideas based on the Christian Scripture. Famous neoplatonistic Christians are Augustine, Boëthius, Pseudo-Dionysius, etc. A renewed interest in Plato grew in the Renaissance with the influx of Greek refugees after the Fall of Constantinople. Aristotle came around in West Europe some time after the 10th century, and a large interest for him grew. Many Latin Catholics criticised Aristotle’s works & incorporated his ideas, eventually making a Christian synthesis between Plato and Aristotle. Here, the most famous Aristotelian Christians are Thomas Aquinas and Albertus Magnus. Aristotelian metaphysics is therefore very important in Western Christian, and especially Roman Catholic, theology. The two most influential Western Christian philosophers/theologians, aside from Paul the Apostle, are Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.
@@hokalos Raphael's 'School of Athens' and 'Disputata' stand opposite each other on the walls of the Vatican library. The dispute between Plato and Aristotle on one side, is reflected in Augustine and Aquinas's dispute on the other. Even Ibn-Rushd (aka. Averroes: the Islamic philosopher from whom Aquinas learned so much, and whence Salman Rushdie gets his name) is depicted there. The Greeks and Romans had formed a synthesis of the two philosophies in the pre-Christian era and St Paul's notion of the Body of Christ draws upon the Greek notion of the body politic. eg. Compare: “Those that think all virtue is to be found in their own party principles push matters to extremes; they do not consider that disproportion destroys a state. A nose which varies from the ideal ... ceases to be a nose at all on account of some excess in one direction or defect in the other; and this is true of every other part of the human body.” [Aristotle - Politics] "For the body does not consist of one member but of many... If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? “ [1Cor12v14-17] Today's body politic is understood as left and right, following the notion that the skilled (adroit/dexterous) hand should lead in affairs of state requiring nuance. Things go wrong when the left (gauche/sinister) or right tells the other "I don't need you".
Great refresher thanks for not wasting time
wow well done, you can explain complicated things easily in short videos. keep going.
Really great vids. From my world view it's impossible to escape the forms. For example, if you think I'm wrong, you now have just instantiated the form of disagreement.
This series really helped me out with a paper I'm writing for my university philosophy class! Thank you!
great stuff, helped me out a lot with my high school paper
so maybe my understanding is off... but trying to understand the substance/essence sitation and apply it to people:
would it stand to reason somebody with, say late stage alzhiemers or dementia could lose their essence depite retaining thier substance? or, alternatively, somebody in a coma?
Plato says your mind vagely remembers the world of forms because your soul saw it before you were born! Its not something your mind can just access easily. Its just the opposite: once in this world the direct access the world of the forms takes a huge effort (leaving the cave).
Does Aristotle metaphysics also have a connection to Christianity?
Acordiing to St Augustine Plato does though
@Christopher Mayer this is what I thought. Also, would you say the author of this video is accurate in saying that Christianity's idea of heaven is based on Plato's theory of forms? If so, who Incorporated Plato's theories into Christianity?
@@adamhands2537 I think it's the other way around, Aristotle's work didn't start to get influential untill the late medieval period when it inspired the nominalists.
Early Christians used Neoplatonism as a framework for their philosophy, this doesn’t mean that Christians copied but that they both criticised and embraced Neoplatonic ideas based on the Christian Scripture. Famous neoplatonistic Christians are Augustine, Boëthius, Pseudo-Dionysius, etc. A renewed interest in Plato grew in the Renaissance with the influx of Greek refugees after the Fall of Constantinople.
Aristotle came around in West Europe some time after the 10th century, and a large interest for him grew. Many Latin Catholics criticised Aristotle’s works & incorporated his ideas, eventually making a Christian synthesis between Plato and Aristotle. Here, the most famous Aristotelian Christians are Thomas Aquinas and Albertus Magnus. Aristotelian metaphysics is therefore very important in Western Christian, and especially Roman Catholic, theology.
The two most influential Western Christian philosophers/theologians, aside from Paul the Apostle, are Augustine and Thomas Aquinas.
@@hokalos Raphael's 'School of Athens' and 'Disputata' stand opposite each other on the walls of the Vatican library. The dispute between Plato and Aristotle on one side, is reflected in Augustine and Aquinas's dispute on the other. Even Ibn-Rushd (aka. Averroes: the Islamic philosopher from whom Aquinas learned so much, and whence Salman Rushdie gets his name) is depicted there.
The Greeks and Romans had formed a synthesis of the two philosophies in the pre-Christian era and St Paul's notion of the Body of Christ draws upon the Greek notion of the body politic. eg.
Compare:
“Those that think all virtue is to be found in their own party principles push matters to extremes; they do not consider that disproportion destroys a state. A nose which varies from the ideal ... ceases to be a nose at all on account of some excess in one direction or defect in the other; and this is true of every other part of the human body.”
[Aristotle - Politics]
"For the body does not consist of one member but of many... If the whole body were an eye, where would be the hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell? “ [1Cor12v14-17]
Today's body politic is understood as left and right, following the notion that the skilled (adroit/dexterous) hand should lead in affairs of state requiring nuance. Things go wrong when the left (gauche/sinister) or right tells the other "I don't need you".
This is a bad lecture because it does not explore other ideas or examples concerning the concepts. The horse thing gets exhausted!
Try a different video for learning