It's a fantastic tank, just about makes up for the weeks I lost grinding it. It's quite agile and the armour is *very* effective (I'd have to dispute his 6.5/10 for survivability, it's more like 7.5 or even 8/10 in brawling and absolutely 10/10 hull-down; as in, you can almost just sit on a hilltop and snipe without reversing. I have yet to be killed from the front, despite many hits), and the gun is a one-stop pop for most tanks you'll meet. Somehow Gaijin actually let a British tank that accurately reflects their real-life survivability slip through the otherwise steeply Russki-slanted algorithm.
no its not, its shaped like a challenger... thats about it, its just a faster chieftan shir has no thermals like a chieftan shir has the same round the chieftan mk10 9.0 has shir has armour on par with the chieftan mk10 shir has an engine like the challenger 1 wow so much like a challenger!
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 I think you forgot that the turret and hull design are almost identical, and the Shir 2 also has the same rounds as the challenger, the reload is much more challenger like. And the FV4030/3 is the Shir 2 and the challenger 1 is the FV4030/4 Wow totally not a challenger
@@Douwe02 the same round that the chieftan also has, and the same gun, the challenger 1 was still very close to a chieftan, also its 2 whole brs higher then the chieftan, its not as good as a challenger 1 which has thermals and better armour the shir 2 has several weaknesses that neither the chieftan nor the challenger has aswell
If they decompressed BR I'd say something else about its position but as it is I think it's actually decently placed. T-64B, AMX-40, Type 16, Vextra, Centauro R are all at 9.7 too for context.
The Challenger mk2 is already 10.3 and personally unless they give it L23A1 I don't really believe 10.0 is warranted. Having a 9.0 dart and no thermals .3 below the Mk2 wouldn't make any sense.
@@Starwalker-dm4mg Been here for a long time, if I remember the Object 292 took only 35k points or was that the TOG (The Tog II atleast is premium) Keypoint being, with the required points being 45K higher than before, I am scared the snail will raise it up to 50K and then 60K until eventually the players will riot forcing them to revert back to a smaller point requirement.
Few problems: At 9.7, there are no other tanks in British tech tree at 9.7. It jumps from 9.3 to 10.0, which means you will be playing up to 11.0. Down to 9.0. So if they changed it to 10.0, nothing will change. Secondly, those you fought shouldn’t be shooting you in the turret. Competent players will shoot your hull and you are done for. Why ever they were shooting at your turret confuses me. They must have been trying to take your gun out rather than going for the easy kill. As a Brit main, I know all too well. Shoot your hull and you are done.
Hey Tankenstein, have you thought about making a video about the Wardle? Its kinda like a wordle game, but with a War Thunder twist. I would love to see you playing it!
Thermals should be removed from the game. It’s 100% more fun without them. At the most they should be a night-battles-only thing. It would also help to balance many vehicles immensely
You don't get the vehicle with warbonds. You may have sold the coupon that allows you to sell the vehicle once you actually have it unlocked by completing 8 out of the 9 tasks.
the Shir 2 is absolutely goated, not regretting grinding the event at all!
They better not move it up the br
It's a fantastic tank, just about makes up for the weeks I lost grinding it. It's quite agile and the armour is *very* effective (I'd have to dispute his 6.5/10 for survivability, it's more like 7.5 or even 8/10 in brawling and absolutely 10/10 hull-down; as in, you can almost just sit on a hilltop and snipe without reversing. I have yet to be killed from the front, despite many hits), and the gun is a one-stop pop for most tanks you'll meet. Somehow Gaijin actually let a British tank that accurately reflects their real-life survivability slip through the otherwise steeply Russki-slanted algorithm.
Fr, but i never played britain so i cant really enjoy it too much. Thinking about just getting the OES or DS next sale, the Shir gives me a nice time.
@ The OES is a fun tank, and more 'unique' from the stock tanks than the DS; also cheaper than the DS I think, although a higher BR.
This is more of a Challenger 0,9 than a Chieftain 2
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All these war thunder military experts, I tell ya. 😂
Your not even a real person, your an ai in a simulation
no its not, its shaped like a challenger... thats about it, its just a faster chieftan
shir has no thermals like a chieftan
shir has the same round the chieftan mk10 9.0 has
shir has armour on par with the chieftan mk10
shir has an engine like the challenger 1
wow so much like a challenger!
@@datcheesecakeboi6745 I think you forgot that the turret and hull design are almost identical, and the Shir 2 also has the same rounds as the challenger, the reload is much more challenger like. And the FV4030/3 is the Shir 2 and the challenger 1 is the FV4030/4
Wow totally not a challenger
@@Douwe02 the same round that the chieftan also has, and the same gun, the challenger 1 was still very close to a chieftan, also its 2 whole brs higher then the chieftan, its not as good as a challenger 1 which has thermals and better armour
the shir 2 has several weaknesses that neither the chieftan nor the challenger has aswell
If they decompressed BR I'd say something else about its position but as it is I think it's actually decently placed. T-64B, AMX-40, Type 16, Vextra, Centauro R are all at 9.7 too for context.
I do think the Sabra might be the strongest of the 9.7 mbts. At least based on it's raw punch
I’ve already seen it in game and it performs well
It's worth getting while you still have time, this is likely to be a classic unless they move it up in BR.
@@turlstreetEven if they did, i think it will still perform well.
I've been having good games with it, it even destroys without the upgrades. The games have been good out of the gates.
Cool & interesting content as usual chap! 👏👍👌🤘✌🖖🤙🍻
I see this thing being moved to 10.0-10.3 because Russians/Leos can't mindlessly pen it.
You’re wrong i destroyed many of them in one shot with my T55family and t62
The Challenger mk2 is already 10.3 and personally unless they give it L23A1 I don't really believe 10.0 is warranted. Having a 9.0 dart and no thermals .3 below the Mk2 wouldn't make any sense.
@b.c.2281 I agree but gaijin doesn't balance in sense. They balance on feelings of those that pay.
When I get home from a 12 hour shift , I am going to grind last of the 45 K and get it .
for how much points this took, was expecting this to be premium or have better sl rp multiplier than the normal tech tree
you must be new around here...
@@Starwalker-dm4mg Been here for a long time, if I remember the Object 292 took only 35k points or was that the TOG (The Tog II atleast is premium)
Keypoint being, with the required points being 45K higher than before, I am scared the snail will raise it up to 50K and then 60K until eventually the players will riot forcing them to revert back to a smaller point requirement.
Few problems: At 9.7, there are no other tanks in British tech tree at 9.7. It jumps from 9.3 to 10.0, which means you will be playing up to 11.0. Down to 9.0. So if they changed it to 10.0, nothing will change. Secondly, those you fought shouldn’t be shooting you in the turret. Competent players will shoot your hull and you are done for. Why ever they were shooting at your turret confuses me. They must have been trying to take your gun out rather than going for the easy kill. As a Brit main, I know all too well. Shoot your hull and you are done.
This thing is still very good
I wish they added the shir 1 over all better
t 72m2 with thermals
The Khalid is a slightly modified Shir 1
Hey Tankenstein, have you thought about making a video about the Wardle? Its kinda like a wordle game, but with a War Thunder twist. I would love to see you playing it!
That sounds like autism simulator
As long as you have good magnification on your gunner sight, thermals aren't strictly necessary - Object 292 still dominates at 10.7 without them
Very good news, I’m hopeful it’ll be with more than 30 Gaijin Coin. BMD-4M here I come!
how much do u suppose this will be on the market?
Who knows ,
My first event vehicle I always ignored them or it would be the stupid crafting events 😭
No way this tank is not going up in BR
yeah mostly because it's british
It will ruin it if it does you might as well bring the mk 2 then and it's armor is already meh anyway why would it go up
Ppl killing t72 with this tank
Thermals should be removed from the game. It’s 100% more fun without them. At the most they should be a night-battles-only thing. It would also help to balance many vehicles immensely
i activated the fv4030/3 coupon with 1,600 warbonds, and no tank was rewarded. Is anyone else having this problem? is there a step I missed??
You don't get the vehicle with warbonds. You may have sold the coupon that allows you to sell the vehicle once you actually have it unlocked by completing 8 out of the 9 tasks.