I think you could argue it's absolutely body horror. The thought of losing control of your body and others violating it in ways you don't consent (they were sexualizing each other's bodies every time they swapped)...that is horrific.
You can totally argue that, for sure, but that's ignoring how the term is commonly understood when discussing sci-fi/horror. "Body horror" is almost exclusively short hand for the horror trope of grotesque transformations. The movie absolutely gets under the skin, literally, though. lol. Love these convos! Thanks for watching.
Shelby is completely misunderstood and I don't know how...She is what happens when social media fucks with your mental health. She was already taking meds for social anxiety and her cowardly boyfriend had been lying and gaslighting her for nearly a decade. Then he actually cheats on her. There's also a racial component here because the actress who plays Shelby is biracial (the director was deliberate in casting her bc of that) - she was overlooked and undesired by her white boyfriend who desired the quintessential white woman. And all of her insecurities were affirmed by her boyfriend's actions, and she had developed a warped sense of validation being fixated on Nikki's social media clout. Also, I feel like the ending is the epitome of play stupid games win stupid prizes. Does Cyrus deserve to be in jail for a crime he didn't commit? Nope, but like, that was the consequence of Dennis's pettiness. Shelby just gave him a dose of his own medicine. Nikki definitely didn't deserve her body to be completely hijacked in the end, but like, oops, oh well. That's what happened. It doesn't matter if it's fair or not, everyone suffers consequences because of other people's actions.
I hear this. I think I said on the show that it all tracks on paper, but for me the movie took so much careful time setting it up and sitting in it, then to have the escalation feel like a light switch flip. I really liked the movie, but the third act felt rushed to the point where I found myself empathizing with a character I shouldn't be. These are nitpicks on my part, though, for a really solid flick that I think everyone should check out.
@@noelbartocci3500 Oh, I don't think that's a nitpick, it's a valid and interesting point. I also presume Greg Jardin would appreciate this kind of discourse coming out of the movie. I can't quite pinpoint the what and how from my reading of the film, but I do think the script probably could've used one more pass at a draft.
@@jasmineevaristo3752 I love these kind of conversations, personally. Taking apart the pieces to better understand what it does and/or doesn't work. It's all subjective, but very in bounds as long as it's done with as much respect as one can muster. This movie is so fun to watch, too, that even the issues don't outweigh how imaginative and original it still is.
I think you could argue it's absolutely body horror. The thought of losing control of your body and others violating it in ways you don't consent (they were sexualizing each other's bodies every time they swapped)...that is horrific.
excellent point, I didn't even think of it that way! - JD
You can totally argue that, for sure, but that's ignoring how the term is commonly understood when discussing sci-fi/horror. "Body horror" is almost exclusively short hand for the horror trope of grotesque transformations. The movie absolutely gets under the skin, literally, though. lol. Love these convos! Thanks for watching.
Shelby is completely misunderstood and I don't know how...She is what happens when social media fucks with your mental health. She was already taking meds for social anxiety and her cowardly boyfriend had been lying and gaslighting her for nearly a decade. Then he actually cheats on her. There's also a racial component here because the actress who plays Shelby is biracial (the director was deliberate in casting her bc of that) - she was overlooked and undesired by her white boyfriend who desired the quintessential white woman. And all of her insecurities were affirmed by her boyfriend's actions, and she had developed a warped sense of validation being fixated on Nikki's social media clout. Also, I feel like the ending is the epitome of play stupid games win stupid prizes. Does Cyrus deserve to be in jail for a crime he didn't commit? Nope, but like, that was the consequence of Dennis's pettiness. Shelby just gave him a dose of his own medicine. Nikki definitely didn't deserve her body to be completely hijacked in the end, but like, oops, oh well. That's what happened. It doesn't matter if it's fair or not, everyone suffers consequences because of other people's actions.
I hear this. I think I said on the show that it all tracks on paper, but for me the movie took so much careful time setting it up and sitting in it, then to have the escalation feel like a light switch flip. I really liked the movie, but the third act felt rushed to the point where I found myself empathizing with a character I shouldn't be. These are nitpicks on my part, though, for a really solid flick that I think everyone should check out.
@@noelbartocci3500 Oh, I don't think that's a nitpick, it's a valid and interesting point. I also presume Greg Jardin would appreciate this kind of discourse coming out of the movie. I can't quite pinpoint the what and how from my reading of the film, but I do think the script probably could've used one more pass at a draft.
@@jasmineevaristo3752 I love these kind of conversations, personally. Taking apart the pieces to better understand what it does and/or doesn't work. It's all subjective, but very in bounds as long as it's done with as much respect as one can muster. This movie is so fun to watch, too, that even the issues don't outweigh how imaginative and original it still is.