He did the interview after the final, stepped up in the last minute to keep England in the competition also got a few goals and assists throughout the comp but somehow the same people would rave and prefer to see Foden captain the bloke who didn't want to take a penalty instead of Bellingham.
Bellingham is fantastic and he has balls. He is young and a little immature. He will learn and be one of the best players in the history, of English football.
Bellingham kicked the drinks cooler then kissed, cuddled and shook hands with his teammates and the media went wild wanting him as future England captain. 🤦♂️
Souness in particular seems to have missed two things. Firstly, changing rooms are now multicultural and more so the higher the division. Some cultures accept being shouted at by the manager. Other cultures do not. Some cultures see the leadership model as one person dictating orders. Other cultures see a more collaborative approach. Secondly ... the leader is now the coach. Souness often talks about the lack of coaching he received at Liverpool. He was just expected to go out and play to his best ability. It helped that all British teams played 4-4-2. Nowadays the leader is the coach who micro-manages every player's game. Each player is effectively his or her own leader. With the larger squads any player who fails to follow the coach's instructions is out. That was not the case when Liverpool won the league with a squad of 14 players. Any assessment of England's performances must be made with an understanding of what the players experience at club level, for most of them a level above international football. If the English manager fails to prepare a team to the standards experienced at club level, this will show in the England players' performances.
Imagine how toxic this guy's ego will be after getting the armband. No way the senior members of the england squad are having a 20 y/o Mr.Who Else captaining them
I agree with Graeme. Young people inc footballers today u just cant captain/manage same as are different now . Was so much better football in the 70s .
No, it wasn't the technical ability. The speed, the athleticism, was awful players now lead in a different manner you don't have to be brash and a hard man now
Pretty much everything in life has been softened, weakened, traduced, cowed. Football is same. Sorry but HK (Captain) and GS (Manager) is the epitome of this now.
Jude acts like a spoilt brat n that would piss off any player plus couldn’t back it up in knockstages rather see Stones or Guehi captain n Kobbie for the future 👌
Can someone please upload the full array of concessions of possession by foden and Bellingham in the euros, invariably brought about by their publicized infamous lack of football basics?
@ClarenceBoddicker87 Yeah. Kicked a drinks cooler then gave his teammates a kiss, cuddle and handshake and the media went wild wanting him as captain. 🤦♂️
How can this modern world survive without real men ... men of character .... men of substance ... men of resilience like Sour Ness .... bless the ignorant old boomer generation that live in the past whilst they still to this day believe that they are the best thing since sliced bread ... the ignorant old farts
@@hammertic ... better in what ways ... better in living in the past ... better at not having a clue about the modern world because they are scared as things have moved on ... better at talking complete & utter rubbish ... agreed ... the freeloading boomers are a complete waste of space ... and they shouldn't be allowed to vote
Skippering is a huge factor. It's mostly about good luck karma. Jude is like Bobby Moore & Zidane, he just won't lie down to die. 27 seconds from a humiliating R16 defeat & he scored that bicycle wonder goal. Kane is lovely like Jimmy Greaves but not a skipper like Mooro. With Jude as skipper we will win Euro28 at Wembley.
You can say a lot of things about Bruno Fernandes but saying he “threw the towel in” is just complete rubbish! Graeme’s just jealous that Bruno’s got more talent/ability in his little toe than Souness had in his whole body! He did the same with Pogba🤦♂️🤦♂️
Having a lot of the best players playing in England doesn’t mean England should win a tournament. A lot of the best players are not English like de Bruyne, Haaland, Rodri and Salah so that’s a nonsense statement.
“Players nowadays are less reluctant to stand up and be counted”🤦♂️🤦♂️that means the exact opposite to what you wanted it to mean Graeme you old fool!
Clough got physco to his office said i heard u been called up to the england squad? Do you think ur good enough? Physco said yeah clough replied i dont now fuck off😂
Man city had 1 first choice player in the starting lineup,plus Grealish and 1 on the bench.The rest were young players with the vast majority having zero 1st team experience.Your comment is embarrassing, Scotlands no 1 team beat a predominantly City youth team 😂
@@tevildo45 It’s Fact. Players could tackle then, can’t now, Chuck themselves over after zero contact these days the pussies. Look at the pitches too, much worse in the 80’s & 90’s yet very few complained. These days they moan and cheat.
Being a captain/leader on a football pitch is pretty straight forward. You lead by example. How you train, play and behave. It’s not like cricket or rugby, where there are difficult and continuous tactical decisions to be made. Being given the armband is honorific. If we’re talking about England, we all know where the problems began and ended elsewhere.
'It’s not like cricket or rugby, where there are difficult and continuous tactical decisions to be made.' There are, they just aren't made by captains anymore. Used to be you'd have an onfield general. Imagine if Rice, Kane, Stones took it upon themselves to go 'we're playing at too low a tempo with no width', and were able to communicate that. All I ever saw was frustration with no onfield leadership. But, I put that largely down to complete, inexplicable acquiescence to Southgates supreme leadership, and the resulting demoralisation. Mentally weak, and not willing to risk offending the higher ups by making their own decisions.
You will get a manager in the future who has the Fergie level of control, but firstly the power has to be taken back from the players and agents, right now even owners can be forced out, only players cant be sacked and that must change, only in football and such sports do we have employees that can't be sacked when they consistently underperform, with that degree of power imbalance football is worse than ever for fans, as Graeme said too many teams have players who could not care less if the team wins or loses.
Remain unconvinced , he’s like Roy of the rovers in that he has to try and do everything. See how he fares at Madrid this season as he’s not going to get the freedom he had last year. Leadership skills, not sure, he’s quite arrogant and doesn’t take criticism very well.
Souness made the dressing room at rangers and he was right about the players he had..there isn’t one player there now you could describe as a leader or a fighter for the jersey
Bellingham was the problem on and off the pitch for England at the Euros coz it's all gone to his head and he's not the player the media make out, he's a Mctominay type
Bellingham is a very good player but is selfish, arrogant and petulant at times, probably one of the last players on that squad I'd put as a leader. Declan Rice is the standout leadership candidate on the current squad but I'm not sure he's good enough to consistently keep his spot.
But guys facts are the most famous teamin UK is Scotland 's Glasgow Celtic fc They being the very first from uk shores to win the big cup . And every footballer from within a 30 mile radius of Celtic park, Glasgow this inc manager Jock Stein and this won't ever be done by any club side ever again in uk or Europe as a whole .
Deschamps = Former Juve Manager and UCL finalist in 2004 with Monaco. Won everything as a player..everything. Please stop comparing him with Southgate who won nothing as a player (bang average) and will never win anything as a manager....... Can't coach
What?? C'mon you can't seriously say Southgate wasn't a world class player?? He was class and one of the best defenders/sweepers of all time! Everytime he got the ball you knew he would create and what he has done for England with average weak players is a miracle! SOUTHGOAT
This is why we've won nothing since 1966. In that team they were all captains. They looked and behaved like men. Just like Liverpool and Leeds in the 70's.
They didn't say everything was better,they say things were different.And if it's boring one click on your phone,computer means you don't have to listen
Waiting for souness to slag off mainoo for not winning the olympics on his own. He doesn’t know his position. Surely there’s another black player he can start digging into
Roy Keane was NOT a leader, he was a violent bully, NO leader would deliberate injure and ending a fellow footballers career.. Keane, should, just like Cantona have had a very long suspension AND gone to jail for violent conduct!
Shut up players used to give it to him all the time yet every single ex player that played in wining teams with Keane called him a leader and hence why he’s still really close to them same ex team mates you clown football was like that back then
I'm no lover of Keane,but what is it with clowns like you that persist with the "Ended Haaland's career"He played the rest of that game and 4 days later.He himself said he'd been having trouble with his left knee (Which led to his retirement) and Keane caught his right thigh.Try and digest the real truth and facts
@@Philoyouknow Well your´re just another deluted United fan that probably thinks that United will win the title next season. United will finish 8th yet again with their FRAUD manager and crap players. NO star player will sign for United!
Bellingham is a nothing player, who plays for real madrid, the biggest cheats in europe Any cabbage can win at real madrid You people way over state what bellingham is as a player, like so many times with english players Look at the players around him at real madrid, and thats why real won, not because of him, but the other players. I think its laughable that you lot think bellingham is a captain Bellingham is englands neymar, just benefits from what his team mates do, and he does really nothing.
Feel like every episode they say the same stuff it's either about England Southgate same old bs or man U bored of this now Senior players ,characters , criticism yawn change the record
Souness is bang on. The modern day player hates being criticised and can't take it and then make excuses etc
The modern day person cannot take criticism its the snowflake societies in the World we sadly now live in!
Sounness makes millions commentating said modern day player.
Bellingham didn’t step up when the criticism was intense though. He does do the interviews when they win
He was interviewed when they lost the final like what more do you people want
He did the interview after the final, stepped up in the last minute to keep England in the competition also got a few goals and assists throughout the comp but somehow the same people would rave and prefer to see Foden captain the bloke who didn't want to take a penalty instead of Bellingham.
Bellingham is fantastic and he has balls. He is young and a little immature. He will learn and be one of the best players in the history, of English football.
This is Gold on many levels with these 3, Troy deeney is legit old skool throwback style but modern aswell, sick format
Bellingham kicked the drinks cooler then kissed, cuddled and shook hands with his teammates and the media went wild wanting him as future England captain. 🤦♂️
He stormed off and sat on the bench and left the players to stew on the pitch.
at least he showed something, we cant have kane has captain anymore, we need someone to lead kane after the game blamed tiredness... poor excuses
The gambler tony should be captain with his no look penalties
Souness in particular seems to have missed two things. Firstly, changing rooms are now multicultural and more so the higher the division. Some cultures accept being shouted at by the manager. Other cultures do not. Some cultures see the leadership model as one person dictating orders. Other cultures see a more collaborative approach.
Secondly ... the leader is now the coach. Souness often talks about the lack of coaching he received at Liverpool. He was just expected to go out and play to his best ability. It helped that all British teams played 4-4-2. Nowadays the leader is the coach who micro-manages every player's game. Each player is effectively his or her own leader. With the larger squads any player who fails to follow the coach's instructions is out. That was not the case when Liverpool won the league with a squad of 14 players.
Any assessment of England's performances must be made with an understanding of what the players experience at club level, for most of them a level above international football. If the English manager fails to prepare a team to the standards experienced at club level, this will show in the England players' performances.
Your point about cultural empathy is extremely important. This applies as well within a national culture based on your city and family dynamic.
A very good summary!
@thesampsoninstitute I said within a culture. We are alighned, your read on my comment is wrong.
This was such a good discussion.
Great work fellas 👏🏽
Up front is the best podcast out there right now
Overlap says hold my beer
Good chemistry between Souness and Jordan helps
Why not 4 up front? Owner, manager, player and fan?
Great conversation as usual. Simon Jordan is the only reason I listen to Selco fm.
I like how Simon thinks. Very nuanced and articulate.
Leadership is where one finds the unwilling deciding to follow.
Imagine how toxic this guy's ego will be after getting the armband. No way the senior members of the england squad are having a 20 y/o Mr.Who Else captaining them
Absolutely mate Who Else … that is precisely the opposite of leadership!!!
I agree with Graeme. Young people inc footballers today u just cant captain/manage same as are different now .
Was so much better football in the 70s .
No, it wasn't the technical ability. The speed, the athleticism, was awful players now lead in a different manner you don't have to be brash and a hard man now
Classic case of old man thinking everything was better in his day. Bet the rain wasn’t cold when Souness was young either
Nostalgia. It wasn’t better in the 70s
Pretty much everything in life has been softened, weakened, traduced, cowed. Football is same. Sorry but HK (Captain) and GS (Manager) is the epitome of this now.
That’s just England which was always soft
I think Sean Dyche has the personality they're looking for in an England manager but does he have the Managerial chops?
“Well, you’re close to the owners of these football clubs, aren’t you?”😂😂😂😂
Did Levy tell you that? looool. How dare he diss his record scorer! 🤣🤣🤣
Brilliant as always
“Again, I come back to it” - if I had a quid for every time Graeme came out with this statement…
I think the first thought we have when we hear souness is "what a massive growler"
IT’S COMING HOME !
this show is spot on
That intro goes hard 😂pure facts
Jude acts like a spoilt brat n that would piss off any player plus couldn’t back it up in knockstages rather see Stones or Guehi captain n Kobbie for the future 👌
So he acts like a lot of other great plays did at 20 then.
Can someone please upload the full array of concessions of possession by foden and Bellingham in the euros, invariably brought about by their publicized infamous lack of football basics?
Are you telling me Kane, Rice and Bellingham coddling Southgate’s balls in public isn’t leadership?!
@ClarenceBoddicker87 Yeah. Kicked a drinks cooler then gave his teammates a kiss, cuddle and handshake and the media went wild wanting him as captain. 🤦♂️
They were never coddling South Balls Bag B. They had it😢 in their mouth. /pause
All Graeme Souness talks about is how good things were in the 80s
He's right, football was way better then
It wasn’t it was terrible. Just nostalgia porn
How can this modern world survive without real men ... men of character .... men of substance ... men of resilience like Sour Ness .... bless the ignorant old boomer generation that live in the past whilst they still to this day believe that they are the best thing since sliced bread ... the ignorant old farts
Only because they are ! Mind you it doesn't take much to be better than the current lot.
@@hammertic ... better in what ways ... better in living in the past ... better at not having a clue about the modern world because they are scared as things have moved on ... better at talking complete & utter rubbish ... agreed ... the freeloading boomers are a complete waste of space ... and they shouldn't be allowed to vote
Can’t believe no one mentioned Steven Gerrard as a captain and leader
Skippering is a huge factor. It's mostly about good luck karma. Jude is like Bobby Moore & Zidane, he just won't lie down to die.
27 seconds from a humiliating R16 defeat & he scored that bicycle wonder goal.
Kane is lovely like Jimmy Greaves but not a skipper like Mooro.
With Jude as skipper we will win Euro28 at Wembley.
Present premier league captains that are strong leaders please??
Can we ensure that we ask questions Troy Deeney can answer. Asked about leadership and then says he’s not a winner. GGs
Troy still on the marching powder then
You need to get Roy on here and get his view on leadership
You can say a lot of things about Bruno Fernandes but saying he “threw the towel in” is just complete rubbish! Graeme’s just jealous that Bruno’s got more talent/ability in his little toe than Souness had in his whole body! He did the same with Pogba🤦♂️🤦♂️
Having a lot of the best players playing in England doesn’t mean England should win a tournament. A lot of the best players are not English like de Bruyne, Haaland, Rodri and Salah so that’s a nonsense statement.
What he said about Fernándes and Mainoo is absolutely ridiculous
Simon missing the fact that we may have the best league but it’s full of FOREIGN players!
“Players nowadays are less reluctant to stand up and be counted”🤦♂️🤦♂️that means the exact opposite to what you wanted it to mean Graeme you old fool!
Great show gents
Clough got physco to his office said i heard u been called up to the england squad? Do you think ur good enough? Physco said yeah clough replied i dont now fuck off😂
Agree with Simon re Brian Clough
Always sais he should have been England's manager way back
@Simon, Scotland 's no 1 team Celtic win v englands no 1 team Man c in Colorado Usa 👍🏴
Man city had a few players out on this game due to Euros thats why Celtic won
Man city had 1 first choice player in the starting lineup,plus Grealish and 1 on the bench.The rest were young players with the vast majority having zero 1st team experience.Your comment is embarrassing, Scotlands no 1 team beat a predominantly City youth team 😂
Football is a pussy sport these days. None of the players now would survive 90mins in the 1970’s or 1980’s
That’s low rent thinking. People in the 50s that the lads in the 80s were soft
@@tevildo45 It’s Fact. Players could tackle then, can’t now, Chuck themselves over after zero contact these days the pussies. Look at the pitches too, much worse in the 80’s & 90’s yet very few complained. These days they moan and cheat.
@@tevildo45 Sir Stanley Matthews called Vinnie Jones soft did he?🤣🤣
Being a captain/leader on a football pitch is pretty straight forward. You lead by example. How you train, play and behave.
It’s not like cricket or rugby, where there are difficult and continuous tactical decisions to be made.
Being given the armband is honorific. If we’re talking about England, we all know where the problems began and ended elsewhere.
'It’s not like cricket or rugby, where there are difficult and continuous tactical decisions to be made.' There are, they just aren't made by captains anymore. Used to be you'd have an onfield general. Imagine if Rice, Kane, Stones took it upon themselves to go 'we're playing at too low a tempo with no width', and were able to communicate that. All I ever saw was frustration with no onfield leadership. But, I put that largely down to complete, inexplicable acquiescence to Southgates supreme leadership, and the resulting demoralisation. Mentally weak, and not willing to risk offending the higher ups by making their own decisions.
You will get a manager in the future who has the Fergie level of control, but firstly the power has to be taken back from the players and agents, right now even owners can be forced out, only players cant be sacked and that must change, only in football and such sports do we have employees that can't be sacked when they consistently underperform, with that degree of power imbalance football is worse than ever for fans, as Graeme said too many teams have players who could not care less if the team wins or loses.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bellingham isn't even in the first team in 2026
A ridiculous thing to say
I don't know much about this, but judging from the pictures & videos online, Jude should be the captain
Remain unconvinced , he’s like Roy of the rovers in that he has to try and do everything.
See how he fares at Madrid this season as he’s not going to get the freedom he had last year.
Leadership skills, not sure, he’s quite arrogant and doesn’t take criticism very well.
Souness made the dressing room at rangers and he was right about the players he had..there isn’t one player there now you could describe as a leader or a fighter for the jersey
No leaders.....no players either judging by Euros and World cup
Does Deeny have a permanent cold 😂
Bellingham was the problem on and off the pitch for England at the Euros coz it's all gone to his head and he's not the player the media make out, he's a Mctominay type
Nonsense he was the best player.
I hope not. Bellingham is arrogant and thinks he's better than he actually is.
They all think there better than they are lol
Absolute Horseshit. I think he’s a great guy!
Why is Deeney on here? He offers nothing to the conversation.
Why do you think? They can't get Micah or Wright but I'm surprised they haven't got a woman there! Disgusting really sexiest pigs
Graeme 'And I come back to it' Souness....ZZZZZZ
Sir Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Leadership for Leadership sake is bollocks! Who wants to be led back to the 80's
How was Beckham at the age of 20?Give Bellingham to grow up.
Old school was act like you scored before, and if you need a captain to get you going your shit
sadly you could revert the majority of this conversation from managers and footballers to teachers and students today
🔥🔥🔥
Souness trying to take credit for all of Guardiola’s success at City🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
Simon’s got SUCH a high opinion of himself🤣🤦♂️
Great show yet again 👍👍
Players are way too pampered these days and can’t handle any form of criticism.
Bellingham is a very good player but is selfish, arrogant and petulant at times, probably one of the last players on that squad I'd put as a leader. Declan Rice is the standout leadership candidate on the current squad but I'm not sure he's good enough to consistently keep his spot.
But guys facts are the most famous teamin UK is Scotland 's Glasgow Celtic fc
They being the very first from uk shores to win the big cup .
And every footballer from within a 30 mile radius of Celtic park, Glasgow this inc manager Jock Stein and this won't ever be done by any club side ever again in uk or Europe as a whole .
Ok and the relevance to the subject of this podcast is ?
They shouldn't even be allowed to have a team after what they did to all them kids
Sorry give Bellingham some time....
Troy is not required
The English just tore that young lad apart and now he’s captain! No doubt he bringing it home as well… yawn!
Souness isn't English
Who said Souness is English
Deschamps = Former Juve Manager and UCL finalist in 2004 with Monaco. Won everything as a player..everything. Please stop comparing him with Southgate who won nothing as a player (bang average) and will never win anything as a manager....... Can't coach
What?? C'mon you can't seriously say Southgate wasn't a world class player?? He was class and one of the best defenders/sweepers of all time! Everytime he got the ball you knew he would create and what he has done for England with average weak players is a miracle! SOUTHGOAT
Is this just three people trying to say smart things but end up saying nothing at all
Bellingham is overrated
Troy Denney annoys the life out of me. He thinks he is some quality player..he was bang average at best
Who do you play for ?
But still one of the best in the world. Becoming a prem player is one of the hardest jobs in the world to get
@@dondamon4669 one of the best in the world!? Please tell me your joking?
Get rid of Troy Deeney
Leaders are overrated in football nowadays, good players and good coaching is more important, souness comes across as a dinosaur 😂
I really don't see anything to agree with there. He lacks ability as a player let alone captain. Come on, let's get real..
This is why we've won nothing since 1966. In that team they were all captains. They looked and behaved like men. Just like Liverpool and Leeds in the 70's.
Deeney is a third wheel who adds nothing. Probably just a DEI hire.
Used to be a good watch and listen but it's been box ticked#woketalksport
Stop lying to yourself, the best players in La liga
Bellingham is a bottler. The most overrated modern footballer by a mile.
Real Madrid will sell him soon unless they keep him for commercial reasons
@@dondamon4669this got a good chuckle out of me like are you being serious 😂😂
This is boring everything better in their day, absolute rubbish - players don’t get criticism, really!!! Don’t think there have heard of social media
That’s there point players cry about it which means they can’t handle it
They didn't say everything was better,they say things were different.And if it's boring one click on your phone,computer means you don't have to listen
They don't get criticism like they used to apart from Maguire,Kane and Rashford
@@leepatrick9432 err not sure you have listened
Waiting for souness to slag off mainoo for not winning the olympics on his own.
He doesn’t know his position.
Surely there’s another black player he can start digging into
what does racist Souness think about Enzo Fernandez and Argentina, for this episode bang on these players don't listen nowadays
How is he racist? 😂
believe me he is, not on this episode though
@@iyanobig everyone in sports a racist nowadays ...its getting boring now
@@forumknight ngl i'm a lil racist too deep inside
@@iyanobig what was the racist bit that Argentina said?... that Africans were fast?
Roy Keane was NOT a leader, he was a violent bully, NO leader would deliberate injure and ending a fellow footballers career.. Keane, should, just like Cantona have had a very long suspension AND gone to jail for violent conduct!
Shut up players used to give it to him all the time yet every single ex player that played in wining teams with Keane called him a leader and hence why he’s still really close to them same ex team mates you clown football was like that back then
I'm no lover of Keane,but what is it with clowns like you that persist with the "Ended Haaland's career"He played the rest of that game and 4 days later.He himself said he'd been having trouble with his left knee (Which led to his retirement) and Keane caught his right thigh.Try and digest the real truth and facts
Your saucer of milk is in the corner......
Cry more, your crayons are here.
@@Philoyouknow Well your´re just another deluted United fan that probably thinks that United will win the title next season. United will finish 8th yet again with their FRAUD manager and crap players. NO star player will sign for United!
He got all they rangers players and bankrupted the club...rangers fc died on 14 Feb 2012😅
Bellingham is a nothing player, who plays for real madrid, the biggest cheats in europe
Any cabbage can win at real madrid
You people way over state what bellingham is as a player, like so many times with english players
Look at the players around him at real madrid, and thats why real won, not because of him, but the other players.
I think its laughable that you lot think bellingham is a captain
Bellingham is englands neymar, just benefits from what his team mates do, and he does really nothing.
He's not even as good As Dele Ali was when he came through, to me he's no better than mctominay but better PR
Feel like every episode they say the same stuff it's either about England Southgate same old bs or man U bored of this now
Senior players ,characters , criticism yawn change the record