Time-Stamps: 1:15 - How important is training frequency in the grand scheme of things? 4:20 - Mike's opener on training frequency 11:02 - Eric's opener on training frequency 23:24 - Mike elaborates on the potential downsides on too high of a training frequency 34:30 - Eric's response to Mike's critique of very high frequency training 49:50 - Overuse injuries with high frequency training and minimum volume per session 58:55 - Mike's rebuttal to Eric's points on this 1:07:44 - Clarifying how it's practical to structure high frequency training 1:12:42 - Muscle soreness as a proxy for muscle growth? 1:23:07 - Eric's response to Mike's take (long back-and-forth) 1:40:28 - Why do some people never get sore while others are sore all the time? 1:53:37 - Training volume and training age - does it really go up by THAT much? 2:08:30 - Where you can find Mike and Eric
Excited to dive into this one! Just wanted to say a good job on putting this together Abel, and of course a thank you to Eric and Mike who took the time. gg! -Mario
This video has so many outlooks on what you should do in terms of lifting. I like how you talk about finding what works for you in terms of what your body can handle. This video showed some other ways that you could be working out whether it be SPLIT training, full body workouts, or two a day. Personally, I am a fan of using fully body workouts recently. I like the feeling of working your whole body to the max 5 days a week. From this video I can take away some key points of trying new ways to workout. Changing up the plan to see what works for me.
I also wonder about the the relationship with doms and actual hypertrophy especially when considering.... I can get a bad case of doms from a great overloaded eccentric movement but if volume isnt there I believe growth would not be seen. Second is that if the damage caused by the eccentric loading is causing severe doms then it could potentially lead to lower training volumes later in the cycle. If volume is the main driver of hypertrophy but doms is interfering mainly because of eccentric loading I question its effectiveness for a way to gage hypertrophy?
Awesome podcast! I just want to take sides with Dr. Mike and tell you that you have a really aesthetic physique Abel. Big chest, wide shoulders and lats, small waist. Great Job! Cheers.
Do whatever you find most enjoyable. If it's hammering a body part once a week or 5 micro sessions. It doesn't matter. What matters is what keeps you consistently coming back hungry. Screw "optimal."
My question is can you get sore without damage? Say if i do sets of 100 reps with the bar on bench, i will definitely be sore. But is that sufficient load to create damage?
What about the individual who can only train four days per week and is limited by systemic fatigue before they get anywhere near their individual body parts MRV’s due to there being so much volume in one session
vein only have auto generated which doesn’t look to be correct. Caption says longevity but I think he is saying gym environment or something like that.
@@johnhowarth8367 man, it's hard for me too but I after listening to it 20 times I think it's "PEOPLE IN WRONG GYM ENVIRONMENT" that don't push themselves close to failure
People that are just maybe in the wrong gym environment [and something which I can't hear, but likely unimportant] - Mike got a bit hyper-intellectual at times and went ultra-whispery :D
Can you guys discuss which body parts specifically will benefit (evidenced based) from higher frequency? eg I train abs everyday or pretty close and this seems like the best approach for me; It’s only 5-8 minutes and pretty high intensity.
Mikes thoughts are on RP for every body part, so you can have his stance right there renaissanceperiodization.com/hypertrophy-training-guide-central-hub/
Leg Extensions hurts your knees??? Maybe if your machine is Defective. If you can't do Leg Ext on a good leg ext machine, that means you CAN'T barbell squat. Ask any of this "Doctors" to find me ONE single study in which Barbell Squats are more effective for your Quadrisept muscle then a Leg Extension Machine. Bodybuilding has been around for 200 years and it's still on it's infancy.
Just to put it out there, Dr. Mike needs a better mic. Pretty confident he makes a boatload more cash than Eric, and certainly more than Abel, so how do the both of them sound 10x better than he does. I love the guy, but Jesus man, come on.
Time-Stamps:
1:15 - How important is training frequency in the grand scheme of things?
4:20 - Mike's opener on training frequency
11:02 - Eric's opener on training frequency
23:24 - Mike elaborates on the potential downsides on too high of a training frequency
34:30 - Eric's response to Mike's critique of very high frequency training
49:50 - Overuse injuries with high frequency training and minimum volume per session
58:55 - Mike's rebuttal to Eric's points on this
1:07:44 - Clarifying how it's practical to structure high frequency training
1:12:42 - Muscle soreness as a proxy for muscle growth?
1:23:07 - Eric's response to Mike's take (long back-and-forth)
1:40:28 - Why do some people never get sore while others are sore all the time?
1:53:37 - Training volume and training age - does it really go up by THAT much?
2:08:30 - Where you can find Mike and Eric
Excited to dive into this one! Just wanted to say a good job on putting this together Abel, and of course a thank you to Eric and Mike who took the time. gg! -Mario
thanks for tuning into it Sir!
Incredible podcast... a treasure of information
You're freaking hilarious Abel. Also loved this podcast, and them talking about some very small things that I've been thinking about for a long time.
Cheers Brotha!
why would anyone give this a thumbs down?
Im thinking the same sometimes :D
Probably Greg D for having Mike on.....
2 freaking goddamn hours! now you outdid yourself man 👏👏👏
Dr. Mike had THE best analogies lol
Fenomenal discussion! Per usual!
What a content drop! Going to listen to this over the next days.
This video has so many outlooks on what you should do in terms of lifting. I like how you talk about finding what works for you in terms of what your body can handle. This video showed some other ways that you could be working out whether it be SPLIT training, full body workouts, or two a day. Personally, I am a fan of using fully body workouts recently. I like the feeling of working your whole body to the max 5 days a week. From this video I can take away some key points of trying new ways to workout. Changing up the plan to see what works for me.
Damn, Eric really sold me on trying that method of programming for concurrent strength and hypertrophy goals.
Awesome content , this video answered so many questions that I think about on a weekly basis
glad to hear!
SQUAAAAAD 🔥
Holy shit! My wet geeky dream! A roundtable with Eric AND Mike?! 😍 AWESOME! Thanks Abel! 🙌
I also wonder about the the relationship with doms and actual hypertrophy especially when considering.... I can get a bad case of doms from a great overloaded eccentric movement but if volume isnt there I believe growth would not be seen. Second is that if the damage caused by the eccentric loading is causing severe doms then it could potentially lead to lower training volumes later in the cycle. If volume is the main driver of hypertrophy but doms is interfering mainly because of eccentric loading I question its effectiveness for a way to gage hypertrophy?
I applaud you for this great contribution :) One of my favorites
cheers!
Very informative podcast Abel. Thank you!
Thank u!
Amazing episode thanks Abel!
Thank you!
Goldust thank you so much
That was absolutely awesome 😎
Thank u!
great content abel 👍
cheers!
thank you for entertaining my cardio sessions, love the long podcasts lol
isnt that what podcasts are for!
Awesome podcast! I just want to take sides with Dr. Mike and tell you that you have a really aesthetic physique Abel. Big chest, wide shoulders and lats, small waist. Great Job! Cheers.
aa thanks so much!!:)
When will this be posted on Spotify ?
soon
open.spotify.com/show/2iKhNBtU3JHVEOkjGOmV1Z
25:53 You just described a wedding.
Do whatever you find most enjoyable. If it's hammering a body part once a week or 5 micro sessions. It doesn't matter. What matters is what keeps you consistently coming back hungry. Screw "optimal."
Cant disagree.
My question is can you get sore without damage? Say if i do sets of 100 reps with the bar on bench, i will definitely be sore. But is that sufficient load to create damage?
What about the individual who can only train four days per week and is limited by systemic fatigue before they get anywhere near their individual body parts MRV’s due to there being so much volume in one session
Thanks guys 👊🏼👌🏼
Thank u!
Anyone know what mike is saying around 1:42:35 - 1:42:40 I can’t make out that part.
refresh the page to have the subtitles option
vein only have auto generated which doesn’t look to be correct. Caption says longevity but I think he is saying gym environment or something like that.
@@johnhowarth8367 man, it's hard for me too but I after listening to it 20 times I think it's "PEOPLE IN WRONG GYM ENVIRONMENT" that don't push themselves close to failure
People that are just maybe in the wrong gym environment [and something which I can't hear, but likely unimportant] - Mike got a bit hyper-intellectual at times and went ultra-whispery :D
can literally see mikes facial expressions in my head as he speaks XD
Can you guys discuss which body parts specifically will benefit (evidenced based) from higher frequency? eg I train abs everyday or pretty close and this seems like the best approach for me; It’s only 5-8 minutes and pretty high intensity.
Mikes thoughts are on RP for every body part, so you can have his stance right there renaissanceperiodization.com/hypertrophy-training-guide-central-hub/
Why not in podcast??
At least check before you ask 😫
@@ssdabel just refreshed , sorry my bad
You need subtitles Abel
oh man, I need that plus a whole bunch of things in life, you don't wanna know..
You should've make it video format instead of just their voices
Leg Extensions hurts your knees??? Maybe if your machine is Defective. If you can't do Leg Ext on a good leg ext machine, that means you CAN'T barbell squat. Ask any of this "Doctors" to find me ONE single study in which Barbell Squats are more effective for your Quadrisept muscle then a Leg Extension Machine. Bodybuilding has been around for 200 years and it's still on it's infancy.
Enhanced train every day, Natural 2 to 3 days a week.
Just to put it out there, Dr. Mike needs a better mic. Pretty confident he makes a boatload more cash than Eric, and certainly more than Abel, so how do the both of them sound 10x better than he does. I love the guy, but Jesus man, come on.
hahah. I might as well send one to him, i interview him so frequently anyway.
More is better apply only in economics, not in Bodybuilding!
Well said
QUANTUM HYPERTROPHY
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mohamed galal does he have a take on this subject?
Senpai Mike notice me!!!
Eric's voice makes me sleepy