This is around circa 2000-2002, and Brian Olson may have been the host of the Dish Answer Channel on channel 100 during that timeframe, before early 2002 when the Answer Channel moved to channel 101 and became the Remote Control Help channel.
"If you can see this channel, and see me, you need to know that you are breaking the law" Damn, am I really not allowed to see this man? Guess I'm going to prison for watching this video.
WELL I MEAN THIS IS ONE OF THE BETTER ONES. i got in jail for 6 months after buying a pirated movie. I didn’t get a chance to turn it back. Automatic legal action was taken
I remember this jerk off and the empty threat of going after people. Shortly after this is when Dish and Direct started driving around and looking for dishes and then comparing it to their customer lists to figure out if someone was a pirate.
DirecTV's satellites were more secure and harder to encrypt than Dish Network's satellites. Because of this, DirecTV didn't even have a channel like this.
DirecTV has always had a different approach, they just ECM any pirate smart cards they find and keep on top of their security a lot better. Meanwhile, Dish has to do this shit because the Nagravision encryption they use is notoriously weak, so they just send out lots of legal threats and use scare tactics to make up for it.
@@brianbenfield3270 haha me too, honestly I was vaguely familiar with the concept of the pirate Satellite business but didn't know anything beyond it existing.
I heard if you watch this and don't call the number it kicks into the Dish Anti-Piracy Self Reporter. Your Dish equipment turns into a phone line somehow and has you call 911 on yourself. Oh well, probably just hearsay.
What I heard is that your set-top box secretly has a nuclear warhead inside just in case you decide to try anything funny. You either call the number or kiss your ass goodbye because it's about to be vaporized.
Not possible. Satellite descramblers are recieve only. They don't phone home even if you are a subscriber is the satellite broadcasts your satellite card ID for the channels you are authorized for. If the ID is not in the broadcast your box wont descramble the channels. These anti piracy channels were only visible to those with hacked descramblers, because they would descramble everything they could find but these channels were invisible to legitimate customerrs
I remember what this was on the program guide "Stop stealing! Illegal device." The first time you encounter this, All the 'tester provider' had to do was explain this to the user that they can not in fact trace them without the phone line. This would a very different situation for the sellers if dish offered literally anything else to the user other than "Give us money or go to federal PMITA prison" I mean, I know people so cheap, they would have flipped for a 20$ gift card of 3 months of free legal service.
they likely did, they had full control over the firmware on their own boxes and from what I hear blacklisted the channel this video aired on for legitimate subscribers (i think it might have been card shenanigans? i'm not sure)
@@VibbyABibby i know they were able to blacklist the channel for active subscribers, they were able to get this to only go to stolen boxes, but they could not individually determine which boxes were using illegitimate cards. Fuck em.
I wonder how this worked? Maybe legitimate setups lock out the channel so you never see it, as a regular customer. But someone pirating it would get "all" the channels, including the warning presented here?
@@Phoenix_Films You wouldn't. Under this (very) hypothetical scenario that would be an edge case. I'd wager someone just in it for a single channel knows full well their actions are considered illegal and the secret shame channel would be a useless scarecrow even if they did hit upon it. ;)
Basically, it happened because pirate equipment indiscriminately decrypts everything it picks up, meanwhile legitimate subscribers wouldn't see it because it wasn't in any of the subscription packages. Technically speaking, legit equipment could pick it up, but since that also gets more specific channel data for the guide listings, they probably also didn't include it in said data so that it wouldn't appear on a normal box. But hey, that's just a theory...a DISH theory.
The idea behind this is really simple. Dish Network hosts this channel, encrypted using Nagravision 1. They don't "allow" anyone to watch this channel, but the Nagravision bypass decrypts all of the channels, even if not all of them can be accessed by a legitimate Dish customer. That's why Pirate TV was available only for pirates (and of course internally for Dish Network employees)
I worked for dish in 2009 they were still broadcasting a variation of this video. We were never trained on it until I was promoted a couple years later. I seen this on a legit set top box I brought into the customers home from the van and it was running wide open with all channels. I called our tech line and gave them the R00/S00 numbers and their equipment verification team took over the call, called my FSM and everyone only to find out a prototype somehow got slipped into the refurb process and never got cleared out properly. Customer almost canceled because they saw this and were hella offended and thought I was a pirate installer or some shit.
Yeah, and this wasn't as effective as one might think since the people selling the pirate boxes/cards could very easily explain that literally the only way they could actually find you is if you called the number, but from everything I've heard they weren't bullshitting about not pressing charges if the people calling became customers. But you could also avoid having to do that at all by just not calling and in fact continuing to use the box until they change the encryption because it's a mostly empty threat. Now, if you were using various online piracy methods, on the other hand, that's pretty traceable and a lot of people have gotten legal threats from Nagrastar (basically the company Dish tells to metaphorically break your legs if you get caught pirating) due to that.
Gonna prank my boomer parents by casting this to TV tonight
😂😂😂😂😂
If you have Boomer parents, aren't you a lil old to be living at home?
How did it go?
1:21 'You'll recieve a honest value, in a honest way'
By honest, he means paying up $100/month for channels you don't watch. Not an honest way.
Lol literally telling you to buy something or they will call the cops on you
Well, this is a rhetorical question, but what will you choose? Customer or criminal?
You've put yourself in that situation by getting to this point
To be a jailbird or not to be a jailbird.
@@brianbenfield3270criminal lmfao. no one wants to pay 100 dollars a month just for channels they don’t watch
This is around circa 2000-2002, and Brian Olson may have been the host of the Dish Answer Channel on channel 100 during that timeframe, before early 2002 when the Answer Channel moved to channel 101 and became the Remote Control Help channel.
This is actually surprising to me, I didn’t know there were actually any anti piracy screens for tv stations
More like satellite equipment.
Imagine seeing this as a kid.
I did constantly
@@w.e.s. That must’ve sucked lol
I did when I was 5 I fucking shit myself and my mum had to get me a new box
Imagine:
- Bro what are u doing in jail?
+ I kill 100 people, and you?
- I hacked my Dish satellite
+ …
LET ME OUT, THIS GUY’S A MANIAC!
This guy is actually quite threatening, and would actually scare somebody calling to them a felon and so on, than the later stuff.
"If you can see this channel, and see me, you need to know that you are breaking the law"
Damn, am I really not allowed to see this man? Guess I'm going to prison for watching this video.
So THAT’S where John Cena got it from…
WELL I MEAN THIS IS ONE OF THE BETTER ONES. i got in jail for 6 months after buying a pirated movie. I didn’t get a chance to turn it back. Automatic legal action was taken
Imagine being threatened with legal action just because some goof ass jinxed you out of a cable box.
You likely wouldn't face any consequences if you just took it to a Dish Network retailer
I remember this jerk off and the empty threat of going after people. Shortly after this is when Dish and Direct started driving around and looking for dishes and then comparing it to their customer lists to figure out if someone was a pirate.
Except it wasn't an empty threat
You wouldn't download a satellite.
I laughed so hard. You made my day!
I read this and immediately No Man Army by Prodigy popped in my head
The number in this video is not in use by dish anymore.
That begs the question, who is using it now?
Dish Network has been in legal talks with many of our local news stations. There is nothing on their lineup.
I wonder what the DirecTV version of this is like, if it exists.
DirecTV's satellites were more secure and harder to encrypt than Dish Network's satellites. Because of this, DirecTV didn't even have a channel like this.
DirecTV has always had a different approach, they just ECM any pirate smart cards they find and keep on top of their security a lot better. Meanwhile, Dish has to do this shit because the Nagravision encryption they use is notoriously weak, so they just send out lots of legal threats and use scare tactics to make up for it.
Directv was hit with piracy from the mid 90s to 2002. They were able to shut it down entirely. Everyone then moved on to dish network.
Failed to mention that the dish is receive only unless you had the phone line plugged in so there's no way they would know who is watching.
This was filmed between 1998 and 2003 when Brian was with Dish. He left in 2003 to pursue a career in management prior to his retirement.
I wonder what happened to this guy? He sounds like the dude who called me yesterday to tell me my car warranty expired.
Apparently Brian Olson left Dish Network in 2003 and has since retired in Georgia just a few years ago.
@@westrivervideotapes I wonder if it was related to dish network telling everyone they were a pirate and sending nasty videos to subscribe.
@@pxp751 The video was only seen by those who have tampered equipment
where do i get one?
Can't do this anymore.
So this is dishes way to scare people into buying their subscription service?
I'm well aware about illegally tampered movies, but never in my life was I aware of tampered TV network systems.
Are you young? It was a big thing in the early 2000s
@@tylerd1297 No, I grew up in the 2000s. I just never came across this stuff.
@@brianbenfield3270 haha me too, honestly I was vaguely familiar with the concept of the pirate Satellite business but didn't know anything beyond it existing.
Stealing cable has always been a thing
I heard if you watch this and don't call the number it kicks into the Dish Anti-Piracy Self Reporter. Your Dish equipment turns into a phone line somehow and has you call 911 on yourself. Oh well, probably just hearsay.
heard that the hopper kangaroo gets squished by a satellite before this happens.
Yeah, "probably".
What I heard is that your set-top box secretly has a nuclear warhead inside just in case you decide to try anything funny. You either call the number or kiss your ass goodbye because it's about to be vaporized.
hahahahahah those set-top boxes couldn't send any data (that's why it was impossible to prevent duplicating the cards)
Not possible. Satellite descramblers are recieve only.
They don't phone home even if you are a subscriber is the satellite broadcasts your satellite card ID for the channels you are authorized for. If the ID is not in the broadcast your box wont descramble the channels.
These anti piracy channels were only visible to those with hacked descramblers, because they would descramble everything they could find but these channels were invisible to legitimate customerrs
My god... they're actually real.
Is this not blackmail?
No, as you have already committed a crime and therefore have no moral or ethical reason to refuse the offer. It's a plea bargain if nothing else
Did this dude just blackmail me?
I remember what this was on the program guide "Stop stealing! Illegal device." The first time you encounter this, All the 'tester provider' had to do was explain this to the user that they can not in fact trace them without the phone line. This would a very different situation for the sellers if dish offered literally anything else to the user other than "Give us money or go to federal PMITA prison" I mean, I know people so cheap, they would have flipped for a 20$ gift card of 3 months of free legal service.
Most people at the time would just be using a descrambler, which would just give you the channels with no guide, so this had no channel name
@@Bort_Simpson Im specifically talking about what the dish network program guide displayed using hakd dish IRD.
This is unsettling
Oh boy just wait till the online streaming services come showing up around the corner.
this changes from N1 to N2 system
They had NO IDEA who was using illegal hardware. This was all a scare tactic. But I’m sure it worked for some of the technologically impaired.
they likely did, they had full control over the firmware on their own boxes and from what I hear blacklisted the channel this video aired on for legitimate subscribers (i think it might have been card shenanigans? i'm not sure)
@@VibbyABibby i know they were able to blacklist the channel for active subscribers, they were able to get this to only go to stolen boxes, but they could not individually determine which boxes were using illegitimate cards. Fuck em.
DirecTV's agreement took me here.
Well why did you use Nagra?????
They'll still get you arrested!
I wonder how this worked? Maybe legitimate setups lock out the channel so you never see it, as a regular customer. But someone pirating it would get "all" the channels, including the warning presented here?
And what if you're just after, say, the Disney Channel and never surf. How would you even see this?
@@Phoenix_Films You wouldn't. Under this (very) hypothetical scenario that would be an edge case. I'd wager someone just in it for a single channel knows full well their actions are considered illegal and the secret shame channel would be a useless scarecrow even if they did hit upon it. ;)
Basically, it happened because pirate equipment indiscriminately decrypts everything it picks up, meanwhile legitimate subscribers wouldn't see it because it wasn't in any of the subscription packages. Technically speaking, legit equipment could pick it up, but since that also gets more specific channel data for the guide listings, they probably also didn't include it in said data so that it wouldn't appear on a normal box. But hey, that's just a theory...a DISH theory.
The idea behind this is really simple. Dish Network hosts this channel, encrypted using Nagravision 1. They don't "allow" anyone to watch this channel, but the Nagravision bypass decrypts all of the channels, even if not all of them can be accessed by a legitimate Dish customer. That's why Pirate TV was available only for pirates (and of course internally for Dish Network employees)
I worked for dish in 2009 they were still broadcasting a variation of this video. We were never trained on it until I was promoted a couple years later. I seen this on a legit set top box I brought into the customers home from the van and it was running wide open with all channels. I called our tech line and gave them the R00/S00 numbers and their equipment verification team took over the call, called my FSM and everyone only to find out a prototype somehow got slipped into the refurb process and never got cleared out properly. Customer almost canceled because they saw this and were hella offended and thought I was a pirate installer or some shit.
This seems a little heavy handed
What was supposed to be on this tape?
It was likely an empty tape
Looks like an anti-piracy screen to me
Year 1999
This.
I like this.
Damn a federal felon? Like me?
Lmao fuck dish network "sign up as a customer and you wo t go to prison!"
He fails to mention that there is no way for Dish to actually find the pirate box or the person watching.
unless the person was stupid enough to connect their hacked box to a phone line.
Yeah, and this wasn't as effective as one might think since the people selling the pirate boxes/cards could very easily explain that literally the only way they could actually find you is if you called the number, but from everything I've heard they weren't bullshitting about not pressing charges if the people calling became customers. But you could also avoid having to do that at all by just not calling and in fact continuing to use the box until they change the encryption because it's a mostly empty threat. Now, if you were using various online piracy methods, on the other hand, that's pretty traceable and a lot of people have gotten legal threats from Nagrastar (basically the company Dish tells to metaphorically break your legs if you get caught pirating) due to that.
OH NO !!! 😮🤣😅🤣
I wish I could be so rich I can make my own laws to make anyone who touches stuff I sold them, into felons
This could actually be real!
Anyone actually try calling the number?
The number is most likely deactivated.
As a former satellite pirate, I can confirm that this is real, and that Bell ExpressVu had the same thing.
I do not go to jail! Ever!
lol yeah right they will call the cops on yo ass. lol i wish I knew how to do this but oh well im stuck in a contract for 2 years anyways
Google iptv, you're welcome.
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