Battle of Midway: Early Hours
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- A scene from the 2011 film Isoroku Yamamoto: C-in-C of the Combined Fleet, depicting the early hours of the fateful Battle of Midway on the 4th of June 1942.
Rengo Kantai Shirei Chokan: Yamamoto Isoroku is a Toei Company film. All rights reserved.
"The Military is a complicated business"....great line...
+Your Fabulous Happy Mann Better than 2the weather's awfully nice today, isn't it?" Small talk is always awkward, I think...
Small talk is tricky and hard to do well...
Your Fabulous Happy Mann
Yeah, that's why I'd find it so hilarious if somebody you'd really expect to be serious and professional suddenly talked about the most shocking stuff just as situational comedy.
- Silence on the bridge, everybody is grim or anxious. The admiral: "...So, would you happen to know this really fat hooker from Osaka?".... -
If someone did that in real life, I'd actually * rofl *, (even in battle^^), that would be genius.
+boycot gugle The Japanese wanted to look and sound calm however harsh the business was.
Sverre Årnes
Yes, of course. That's a main pillar of good leadership, I'm aware of that. It just seemed somewhat strange as they were traveling in the second line and still far away from the battle. That's different from a lieutenant, whose company is pinned down by murderous crossfire, forcing himself to crack a joke, or sit down and calmly eat an apple, or whatever you sometimes read in wartime diaries, that soldiers really keep in mind as the most inspiring things they've witnessed.
One of the Japanese officers, it may have been Minoru Genda, said later that, among other things, the Japanese suffered from what he called "The victory disease".
They were over-confident and paid the price for it.
Just like Hitler at Stalingrad. And Lee at Gettysburg. And. . .too many to list.
It was not over-confidence that ruined them. It was a great strategic blunder to declare war on the USA in the first place, and then the conduct of the war was based on an incredibly risky strategy, which would lead to either great victory or great defeat. It was more just simple stupidity, rather than hubris. Just being wrong about everything, not looking at it in the correct way. Ignorance, more than over-confidence.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 If they had declared war before they attacked, they might have been able to negotiate. The sneak attack sealed their fate. Once the USA was fully provoked, they had no chance.
@@NSResponderThe thing is, they did send a declaration to the US hours before bombing Pearl Harbour. But it was received later than expected iirc from what I read.
@@aheroictaxidriver3180I believe it was due to the risk of the US declaring war on their nation first when they were attacking Western colonies. (British-held Malaya, Dutch-held Indonesia and most importantly, American-held Philippines.)
They tried taking the initiative of destroying US Fleets first to cripple their naval capabilities on launching a counter-attack towards SEA. But as we know, USN carriers are intact and the rest is history.
Μια πραγματικα αξιολογη πολεμικη ταινια Ιαπωνικης παραγωης 2011,με θεμα την ζωη και το εργο του διασημου Ιαπωνα ναυαρχου Ισοροκου Γιαμαμοτο.Το λεω επειδη την εχω παρακολουθησει.Επισημη προβολη στις Ιαπωνικες κινηματογραφικες αιθουσες:23 Δεκεμβριου 2011.Καθως επεισης προβληθηκε στις Διεθνεις Κινηματογραφικες εκδηλωσεις του Μοντρεαλ,στις 25 Αυγουστου 2012.Μια ταινια που επικεντρωνεται στον χαρακτηρα του ναυαρχου Γιαμαμοτο,και κρατα μια ουδετερη σταση σε οτι αφορα αυτο το θεμα,αλλα και στο θεαμα,το οποιο ειναι ρεαλιστικο,και υπαρχει ιστορικη ακριβεια στα γεγονοντα,.Το ιδιο θεμα,ειχε ξαναγινει ταινια το 1968,με τον Τοσιρο Μιφουνε,μονο που ειναι καπως..."προπαγανδιστικη"αλλα τελος παντων.Κριμα που αυτη του 2011,δυστυχως δεν βρηκε ποτε διανομη στην Ελλαδα.Μια ταινια που αξιζει τον κοπο να την παρακολουθησετε.Και τα ψηφιακα εφφε της,ειναι σαφως πολυ πιο ρεαλιστικα,απο εκεινα των ταινιων του Χολλιγουντ,και με μικροτερο κοστος παραγωγης...
"I can smell 'em.... there are carriers."
Some say that this battle would go quite different if Yamaguchi (Hiryu and Soryu squadron commander) was at the general command over Kido Butai instead Nagumo which should be sacked from command right after Pearl Harbor...
@@asheer9114 I agree Nagumo only earn his rank by seniority not combat experience but he has experience in torpedo warfare
硫黄の匂いがする。温泉があるぞ！ ua-cam.com/video/Ko8N-ogNyNE/v-deo.htmlsi=yd1wyObFIbnXf0yf
@@jishaku38 ^^
In movies depicting the Japanese navy the Admiral is always surrounded by ranks of junior officers doing absolutely nothing except standing stock still.
Because that's what the Japanese military was like. Very pomp, little to no room for insubordination. Junior officers were there to take and relay orders, that's all.
That is pretty much the way Japanese junior officers reported it being in their memoirs written in the early 1960's.
Unlike the American Navy who encouraged a certain level of innovation and initiative the Japanese navy pretty much reserved that only
for the highest ranks where Japanese junior officers only acted as mouth pieces for their superiors and were not expected to
speak up or offer suggestions to officers above them.
@@iannordin5250 i highly doubt the army is like this, i see them as very barbaric
@@joycekoch5746 Bruh you confuse the IJA with the IJN. IJA was rather rigid and disciplinarian. IJN, however, was more egalitarian. Junior officers like Genda played a key role.
We don't need torpedoes...bombs are we need to capture Midway. How fateful!
A bit of mythmaking. Yammamoto had planned for long range recon planes to scout Pearl for US carriers but a US submarine positioned at the refueling spot (French Frigate Shoals, roughly halfway between Midway & Hawaii) prevented the planned refueling resulting in the operation being cancelled. THIS was what Nagumo wasn't told.
Good point. But the historian Jonathan Parshall argues in "Shattered Sword" that the evidence is that even if the reconnaissance showed the carriers were gone that the attack on Midway would still have been undertaken. Yamamoto was determined to destroy those carriers. The Japanese were so extremely confident of their superiority that they ignored all kinds of warnings.
@@SteveMG500 True however with that he would likely issue far more efficient search operation and have some patrol to in air to intercept us scouts.
and well - the attack that crippled 3 carriers came in essence after few waves of US pilots gave their lives for nothing but depleting Japanese combat air patrol to point of utter exhaustion of fuel and ammo.
if the attack force from all 3 carriers attacked at once like it was planned likely japanese defences would be more efficient.
saulpaulus hahah poo bum lies you are all wrong the earth is flat
@@Paerigos The Japanese recovered, re-fueled and re-armed their CAP during attacks; as is proven by the Japanese flight logs. The pilots would have been physically and mentally tired, but it was only the attack of VT-3 and VF-3 that drained their ammo and pulled them away from their carriers and clearing the path for VB-6 & VS-6. Also, there was the shock of the first use of the Beam Defense (aka, the Thach Weave).
@@mcmneverreadsreplys7318 The managed to do it with some of them... but the constant action made the patrol less and less efficient - for instance it was general problem of assemble wing groups as combat degenerated into an all out meele for japanese. some aircraft for one group were replenished while others werent.
ミッドウェーの戦いはおそらく…暗号を傍受されたのと…発艦準備の時に陸用爆弾から、魚雷に転送したのもあって空母たちがやられたんだよな…
最大の敗因は索敵の不徹底ですね珊瑚海海戦での戦訓があるのに二段索敵をやらなかった、海戦後利根四号機の報告不十分が原因のように源田や淵田は言ってますがこれも嘘チャートと照らし合わせれば報告位置と予定飛行経路がズレていることにすぐ気がつくはずです、利根四号機より先に筑摩一号機が米艦隊の上を飛んでるんですが雲の上を飛んだ為に発見できなかった機長の都間信大尉のミスです
それ以前に、本来ならば後方にて航空支援をするのが常な
機動艦隊を最前線に配し、
主力艦隊を後方に置いたのは
山本五十六の愚配。
空母を敵艦艇(特に重巡以上)の
主砲射程範囲内に入らせ、
此方の主力艦艇の射程を
短くさせるのまずあり得ない。
曹操が文醜との戦いで行った様な
相手が総合的に数段格下で、
長距離戦が存在しない時代ならば
それでも良い。
相手をナメていたのが全てでしょうね！ あと､潜水艦の起用法が中途半端...
@@hiroturbo7311 慢心 「今回も楽勝楽勝」
「アメさんに弱いのー、わが海軍は世界一だ」
「早く終わらせて酒のみてーな」
水兵までかんな感じでたるんでたらしいね
山口多聞殿の空母だけが攻撃機を発艦さたよね多分？！
Midway is arguably the poster child for the degree to which dumb luck can have catastrophic consequences in war.
Even WITH the USN having the advantage of knowing the IJN plans to a significant degree, almost everything that could have gone wrong for the IJN DID go wrong. Change a few things and it's just as possible for the USN to have lost all THEIR carriers and the IJN perhaps one or two or with some luck have some damaged and none sunk, or any result between those extremes.
Really remarkable sequence of coincidences.
Yes. I've always thought that the Yorktown and Dick Best were classic examples of people having serious movie like plot armor and main character syndrome. Reverse that, for example, let's say the Japanese were a tiny bit more lucky and sank the Yorktown in Coral Sea and Dick Best didn't sink the Akagi with his lucky shot, the results of Midway could've been vastly different.
There were a lot more mistakes on the Americans too and their lack of experience shows. But their moxie and ingenuity also became invaluable. It takes the Americans at that time a lot of time to get their planes off unlike the Japanese who could launch everything in 1/2 hour (like the captain says). And so when the USN carriers launch their planes, their attacks were random and uncoordinated. The Japanese were confused as wave after wave would come from different directions. The fighters protecting the carriers would scramble and start to chase all over the place. Even their approach angles got confused as shown in the Midway movie, but Dick Best sunk 2 Japanese carriers. The Japanese didn't anticipate any USN carriers there... oh boy were they wrong. They also had wooden decks and lousy fire control systems. Yorktown survived the Coral Sea battle, and got hit again by the Japanese counter attack, but didn't sink and the Japanese attacked it again thinking it was the Enterprise. And the last Japanese carrier had to save face and attacked and then got sunk, sinking their top 4 carriers. So much luck but also things you do to help create the luck and then things you do to let the other side have the luck. I do believe in God and I often think that all he has to do to affect the outcomes of anything is just all these little things, that no one would ever notice, or often too he makes the ego of men to become completely stupid. Literally just whispers in the wind.
@@SavageDragon999why everyone with those what if scenario i dont like them qnd i hate them too, be f glad US won and turn Japan on a better country
@@lkiing
Your god also let his chosen people get gassed to death. It took a bunch of godless commies to finally deliver the death blow to the Nazis. Dwell on that for a moment.
@@SavageDragon999What if Hornet hadn't been a complete shit show? It's very likely that all 4 Japanese carriers are sunk in the first attack.
What if Yorktown had launched VS-5 and their 17 SBDs immediately. The Japanese probably lose all 4 carriers before they can strike.
What if Saratoga had made it to Pearl Harbor a week earlier?
What if Wasp was transferred to the Pacific a month earlier?
Still better than our Hollywood style "Historical" films. Thanks for posting!
Hollywood always dramatized alot and bullshit many scenes.
@@CrimsonAlchemist and alot of romance which is no need in historical movies
Not to mention Michael “Explosion” Bay’s complete lack of story writing and biased mess.
When people look at past battles they often blame the commanders for wrong decisions. The American civil war general said it best when after the war he lectured students on the war. One student told him he should of not moved his troops a certain way because of how the enemy was positioned. He said " As stupid as he was if he had known then what he knew now he would not have made those mistakes". In other words you can only judge them with the information they had at the time.
Yes. Correct. Decisions at the time of battle can't be second guessed after you have more information...however...from a "planning" strategy standpoint the biggest mistake the IJN made was sending a force to the Aleutian Islands. This wasn't a "small" force. That fleet consisted of 2 other aircraft carriers Ryujo and Junyo along with 40 fighers, 21 torpedo bombers, 21 dive bombers, and 4 reconnaisance aircraft, 3 cruisers, and 5 destroyers. That's an extra 82 planes the IJN could have had.
In reality, the IJN was outnumbered for Midway. The US had 127 land based air craft plus an additional 233 carrier based planes. That's 360 total vs the IJN only having 238.
Had the IJN used the Aleutian Force plus two smaller carriers in the actual battle then this would have added in 127 total planes to their 238 total. The number of planes would have been nearly identical.
Now if the IJN then used more its battleships to shell Midway's two islands then there would not have been a need for too many land bombers.
One last note, there is no reason as to why the IJN would have put 4 main carriers so close to each other had they made use of the other 4 smaller carriers available.
@@f430ferrari5 I think the reason why the 4 Carriers were so Close during the battle was for Communication and Coordination , as they were forbidden by Strategy to send Cables and they were communicating through Morse code
@@infamousarsonist949 you’re ignoring a portion about what I wrote.
Also what you are doing is simply trying to explain away a matter as to the illogical approach that was taken.
The 4 carriers didn’t need to be in front for communication and coordination. How does “communication” factor in again for the IJN when you just said they were on radio silence anyhow?
Back to the part that you ignored. Had the IJN approached with surface ships and used battleships to shell Midway then what does the US do.
@@f430ferrari5 the Reason Why They Used Carriers as Frontline ships its because they simply failed To recognize the power of Fleet carriers , The Carriers werent the Pride of the IJN , its their Battleships , They Simply want To use the Battleships to make the Finishing blow , Only Yamamoto Recognized the Power of Naval Aircraft Carriers.
@@f430ferrari5 they Communicate Through Morse code , Signal Lights that were on the Bridge , you donut , thats why they are close to each other and Thats how they Communicated and Coordinated , as they still assume that the Americans dont know their positions thus they didnt used Cables
ミッドウェーでの索敵不十分の教訓を活かしてマリアナ沖海戦では十分に索敵を行い、米艦隊の場所は判明するも、乙事件で作戦資料が米国にわたっており全てが後手に回ってしまった
空母発見にはそれほど差ありませんでした。ですが、南雲の魚雷、陸上爆弾の転換判断ミスと元を言えば南雲があの作戦のトップに任命された事自体がミスであった。
山口多聞のような専任が作戦指示出せたらあの戦いの行方は変わっていたでしょう。
既に人事や組織の問題が戦争の勝敗を決めていたという事になります。
After the battle. The Japanese Navel High Command should have realized that the US carriers had no reason to be anywhere near Midway and by being there the US had broken their code.
Well they have advanced the cypher even before the Midway battle - but that was it they changed cypher not the system.
in essence few days before battle US cryptographers were again blind for few months.
but that was the brilliance of Fletchers plan- in essence US fleet was deployed in such possition that it could charge in any direction - relieve Aleutions, protect Pearl Harbour and was in superb possition if japanese made for East coast of US.
Midway was just conveniently close to that. Also dash to any of those but Aleutians would require passing trough Midway scout planes...
In an ironic point - having fleet deployed around Hawaii was reasonable strategy closer to Midway might have been criffin bad luck.
The cypher was actually changed so the US Navy was back to square 1 shortly after they managed to crack the codes. Thankfully, before that happened, the US managed discover the Japanese plans for Midway and prepared accordingly.
@@Mrthebest7890 Well but the US broke the changed Japanese codes fairly quickly because they knew the way JN-25 worked.
I like seeing the Yamato in it's proper dress, with the 6" guns on the sides.
この映画を見る限り、
色んな参謀が言う土壇場の意見が、
みんな負けにまっしぐらに向かう真逆な意見ばっかりだな。
私の曽祖父が飛龍の第二航空戦隊参謀でした。
I really wish this movie in it's entirety were available in here.
+Bret Nielsen watch32.is/movie/XvjW92xe-isoroku-yamamoto-the-commander-in-chief-of-the-combined-fleet.html
@@zoiloespinosaiii7735 bro it didnt work ...help plzz
@@aboyheigrujam2375 it's on the pirate Bay. Currently seeding it
@@runninggames771 okay
They failed to take into account Murphy's Law, " Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong!"
Murphy didn't speak Japanese, thus they could not understand his warning.
多聞は、本当に天才
Letters from Iwo Jima was a well done movie as well.
Midway. A perfect text book example of the power and value of military intelligence. The Americans knew where the Japanese were going, what forces they had, and where to intercept them.
And any plan that relies on the enemy's full cooperation isn't a plan, it's a pipe dream.
And air search radar that the Americans had but the Japanese did not.
When the situation changes, US adapts
Midway showed us that information is everything
何が一番恐ろしいって各部隊の判断や決断の微細なずれが最終的に大きな代償となって返ってくること。
誰が悪かったということではなくて、誰かがその判断をしなければならなくなる状況が作られる。これが戦場で指揮する人間の判断を揺さぶる落とし穴みたいなものなんだな。
昔の将軍や武将が戦とかで風とか流れが変わった。ってよく言うけど、この動画の暗闇の中でひしひしと伝わる脳をチクチクするような空気がそうなのかもしれない。
Ever watch a basketball game where all the loose balls seem to go to one team? That’s kind of what happened at Midway. Every stroke of luck needed to win that battle went the US way. It was a Miracle McCluskey found the Japanese Navy And within five minutes World War II was over for the Japanese.
Rochefort.
1:40 "The enemy carrier position is 170 sea miles north-north-west of Midway." ABORT THE MISSION!
Yamato should absolutely BREAK the radio silence... which they irrationally kept even after transport invasion fleet was spotted and attacked by B17's from Midway which was an obvious sign that Americans KNOW that they coming... and warn Nagumo not only about intercepted signal but about an attack on transports as well, so the Japanese carriers wouldn't be caught up with "pantsu" down between returning planes from Midway attack and prepared to launch the second wave.
@@asheer9114 No, because that way American codebreakers could learn of the Japanese plans, so breaking Radio silence would not be an option.
The excellent Japanese navy guessed and guessed wrong. Enough said.
Such is the business of warfare.
無言
Better you guess honestly and are wrong than to know an attack is immanent and let it happen (pearl harbor).
And what do 20 knot standerd battleships in slip are supposed to do to a fast carrier task force above 27 knots at the minimum?
@@elykeom1 ... and the subs trying to catch up. yaah~~~
山口多聞さんが指揮をとってたら戦況は変わってた。
目視による偵察だろうに、偵察機6機は少なくない？
この時期はまだ航空戦のノウハウが蓄積されてない手探りの時期だから、この後第二次ソロモン開戦以降は索敵機を増やすんだけどそれを学ぶために高い代償払ったわけだね。
I feel sorry for admiral Nagumo.
Do you have this full movie with english subtitles? I want to see it I am here in the USA can you assist?
man youtube has subtitle system
How can I get a Region 1 version of this great movie (with English subtitles, of course)?
As a Blu-Ray? This film is also titled "Admiral" and is available from Amazon. Make sure it is the one starring Kôji Yakusho.
One hell of a battle.
You know after doing some thinking last night about the Battle of Midway, I can understand fully how the Japanese plan started going down in flames. Sure the creaking of the Japanese code was a big part but here is where the most damaging result happened. 1. A Japanese Destroyer ended up getting seperated from the carrier group while it was trying to find and destroy the USS Nautilus, the only sub at the time to fire torpedoes toward the carrier task group. Which resulted in it having to hurry back to the task group which continued to sail away.
2. Lieutenant Commander McClusky and his bombing/scouting group were about to turn back to the Enterprise when they spotted the trailing destroyer which lead them straight for the carrier group. At the time the Japanese CAP and fighters were neither in position or in shape (fuel and ammo) that would've probably been fixed if the bombing group hadn't arrived when it did. So I must say we have to thank the Arashi, the destroyer, for adding to the US victory. Now before you say that I am wrong you might want to go and look at some of the documentaries and read the books about the accounts of the battle because I know high school doesn't teach classes this that its up to the students to catch it.
+falcon3268 only one way to know which is access to the military files at that time. then again youre ignorant because you think your hypo-theoretical thinking is 100 percent correct.
+Vinh Tran no jerk, that type of thinking was with Japan at the time when they thought they couldn't lose at war.
You might enjoy reading what has become one of, and arguably the leading, history of the Battle of Midway,' Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway' by Jonathon Parshall. You can also find his presentations at the U.S. Naval War College and WW2 Museum online. Jonathon identifies a series of critical events / actions that had a major impact on the outcome of the battle, which includes, but is not limited to (and in no particular order) 1.Flawed Japanese scouting, 2.Attacks of VT-8 & VT-6 (not for the reason most people believe), 3.The 1020AM attack, particularly Wade McClusky and Richard Best.
I know of the book, I read and watched enough of the battle. The main thing that seemed to stand out was the fact that the Japanese Military leadership only thought of victory not outside the box like a military leader should've.
True a good amount of luck also contributed to the American Victory
排煙がすごい真っ黒…
IJNのモールスコード （または飛行機・船のコマンド・ワード hard a-starboard, brace yourself, prepare for ditching など）を教えて出来ますか？ 日本語をよく話せません。ごめんね
otomodachifan
I know "starboard" in Japanese.
It's "Omokaji" (面舵)
Japanese sailor say's "Omookaaji"
"hard a-starboard" is "Omokaji ippai (面舵いっぱい)
I'm sorry. I can't speak English.
brace yourself:覚悟しろ
prepare for ditching:不時着の準備？
hard starboard:面舵いっぱい
0:08 YAMATO :D
It's a Musashi, you can tell by the lack of AA secondary mounts and those triple turret secondaries.
@@1nicevids Musashi got commissioned in 1943.
No, the Musashi was commisioned in 1942. But no that's the Yamato. Yamato and the Musashi had the same layout prior 1944
@@1nicevids It's the Yamato, she was built in this configuration and didn't get the extra 127mm mounts till later.
@@1nicevids at the time of midway Musashi was still being fitted out and on sea trials the scene there is Yamato
事後をまるで全てを知ってるかのようにコメする奴多すぎｗ
Seems to me that Yamamoto's career is a little long to fit in a movie, and events like Midway are getting short shrift for this reason. Maybe it deserves a TV series?
無能な上司だと部下が苦労する良い例。
南雲は、無能の代表格。
南雲司令は根っからの水雷屋です。
無能ではなく、気が弱かったんです
山本五十六は幹部となってからは対米戦まで実戦経験もなく、司令長官任されたのも、指揮能力ではなく暗殺を恐れての避難人事だったから...他の提督でも戦略レベルで物事考えられる幹部がいたのかは不明だけど、変人気取りの黒島参謀を山本ほど重用しなきゃここまで負けなかったかも...
How can I get a Region 1 version of this great movie (with English subtitles, of course)?
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Movie link PLEASE?
Stormy weather on the way to a battle and out of nowhere - "Dude, you're getting some money next month."
That came across to me as the Admiral (I believe Nagumo?) making small talk to calm the nerves of his officers. Maybe himself, too?
逆にミッドウェイ海域が晴天になってくれれば、敵機を発見しやすくなるので哨戒にとって良かったかもしれない。
1：00敵空母など来ませんっ
じゃねーよ来ないことを前提にするなよ戦の真っ最中だろ
寝台急行総武 わかってねーな
寝台急行総武 終わってからならいくらでも言えるよ
南雲機動部隊は「空母のアンテナは貧弱だから、どんな情報でも伝えてほしい」と、GF(連合艦隊)司令部にお願いしていた。
潜水艦からの「敵空母発見」の情報を、立派なアンテナを持つ戦艦大和の中で傍受したGF司令部が、南雲機動部隊に伝えなかったのは、あまりに無能。
何が「我々の位置が敵にバレる」だ。
お前ら大和は、南雲機動部隊の後方、数百海里の安全地帯にいるくせに。
敗因の多くは山本以下連合艦隊司令部の責任ですけどね...
奇襲を掛ける必要もないのに無理に奇襲に拘ったり、作戦を複雑にしたり相互援護が不可能な遠距離に部隊を配置したりとこれだけの大艦隊の動員に対して、実際に米海軍と戦ってるのは駆逐艦合わせて21隻の第一航空艦隊のみって状態でしたから、敵空母がいる前提だろうと勝利は厳しい状況でした。
ちなみにこの時本土にいた第五航空戦隊やアリューシャンへ同時侵攻した第二機動部隊と山本の本隊に付いてた空母を除くと日本空母は248機、米空母は233機で殆ど差がない上に基地航空隊126機も付いてます。
I CAN NOT for the life of me find this movie online.
Search 'Admiral Yamamoto DVD 2011' in Google shopping and you'll find it
Order and discipline...
Do you have the Amazon link to buy the DVD? There's a zillion Midway related items in there, but want the Japanese film with subtitles. Thanks
Me too man.. I can't find it
can you guys give me a link for this movie?
Www.gobuyityourselfyoupoorpirater.com
+Dennis Blokhuis
Link isnt working :,(
just support the people who worked on that movie to pay their bills and buy the dvd on amazon, it isnt that much money
Yeah, here is the link www.quitbeingacheapskateandbuythemovielikeeveyoneelse.com
イケメンが多すぎて現実味がない
いや昔の方がイケメンは多かったよ。
@@user-vn3tm1kv3b 白黒写真は影が出来やすく彫りが深く見えてイケメンに見える傾向がある。
それもこれも連戦連勝の驕りだよな…索敵の不徹底、認識の甘さで負けたのよ…
I need to see this film.....
Hindsight is 20/20 but Nagumo did not face an impossible choice.
Merely, he did not remain with his most important objective: destroy the enemy carriers.
They knew Midway base itself would play no significant role in the battle so they should have kept the torpedoes on their planes and keep searching for the enemy carriers. Whatever attack was launched from Midway could be easily intercepted and destroyed by Nagumo's own fighters.
これナレーション玉木宏だよね？
大和が出撃したのって、ミッドウェー、レイテ、最後の鹿児島沖での玉砕ぐらいだよな。
しかもどれも大敗してるしw
普段は大和ホテルの名に相応しく本土とトラック諸島を行き来してたみたいです笑
いや、魚雷と爆撃用半々でだかせとけば良かったんだよ、敵空母は出てこないって言い切るなよ、海戦なんだから(かもしれない)でいるべきだったと思う
飛行甲板に穴開けるだけでいいんだから陸上用でもよかったんだよね
一方そのころ、山本ははるか後方の大和で将棋やっていたんだよね
大和もはるか手前を子分連れて将棋打ってる暇あんなら前線で空母の護衛するべきだったでしょ、
本来の作戦ではミッドウェーを第一次攻撃隊で爆撃、第二次攻撃隊でミッドウェー防衛のために現れると予測された空母艦隊を撃滅 制海権、制空権を奪い大和率いる艦隊でミッドウェーを艦砲射撃 後方に控える陸軍一木支隊を筆頭にミッドウェー制圧 って感じだったはず よく大和は、山本長官はなにやってたんだって批判する人いるけど戦後で沢山の資料があるからこそ言える
@@user-zk1ro4fi6w 大艦巨砲主義当時ですら、
戦艦を空母の後ろに配するのは
戦法として論外とされる。
空母は本来、艦隊の後方に配置され、艦隊の航空支援や護衛にあたるもの。
戦艦が後ろでは、敵を主砲の射程内に収める事は難しく、
艦単体での攻撃力が弱い空母が
激戦に晒される。
こんな事が判らないのは
あり得ない。
レーダーは無い、索敵機はいいかげんな仕事しかしてないし、暗号は解読されてる…戦う前からまけてるやん…
索敵機は飛ばしてる数が少ないんじゃないの？
索敵機は一所懸命仕事をしたと、思うぞむしろ１段索敵しかせず相手をなめきった指令部が一番悪いと思うぞ
@@user-km8hv1ml6d いや、そもそも、索敵機側も敵空母がいるわけがないと勝手に思い込んでいたじゃん？それだから本来索敵するときは雲の下を通るはずなのに雲の上とか通って雲の下にいた敵空母発見できずという事態が発生してるんだよ
日本は引き分けに持ち込めた戦いだったね。あくまで、この戦いにおいては。
We broke your code about the attack
partial break
The 1970 midway was way better, it showed the 6 recon planes plus the malfunctioning on the last one.
The irony of that malfunctioned plane from IJN Tone was that if it takes off on scheduled time it would fly DIRECTLY over Enterprise's fleet when hour later Grey Ghost and Hornet already left the sector leaving the empty sea behind them.
Anyone know where I can find the entire film and/or its soundtrack?
Actually is was an American destroyer at the recon sight. Nagumo was not informed because of a communications black out
This scene is wrong - Nagumo received the same information that Yamamoto did back in the Main Body. Why Nagumo didn't act on the data is unknown, but he wasn't somehow betrayed or sabotaged because Yamamoto didn't forward a scouting message to his subordinate who in fact received it as a matter of course.
Ranillon 2:34 Nagumo may have rather wanted to confirm carriers first due to visual sighting from his scout planes rather than rely on intercepted messages.
Ranillon
No such intelligence was ever received. What actually happened was that the Japanese were to fly 2 long range scout planes from Kwajalein to French Frigate Shoals, refuel by tanker submarine, fly them on to pearl harbor, make sure the U.S. carriers were in port, then return to Kwajalein with another refuel stop along the way.
It never happened. This precautionary operation was cancelled because a U.S. destroyer was patrolling off of French Frigate Shoals, too near the rendezvous point. This cancellation was radioed to Yamamoto but not received by Nagumo, whose task force was in unfavorable weather for radio.
I know that was the case, but the scene is still applying the wrong information to a well-known myth propagated after the war meant to rationalize the Japanese Navy's loss at Midway (and try to make the Imperial Navy look better by blaming a handful of scapegoats) - that the information on the lack of confirmation as to the whereabouts of the US carriers wasn't passed to Nagumo, thus setting him up for defeat. Likewise, more recently research shows that the naval leaders had already decided that even if they had flown the mission and seen that the carriers were gone the Midway operation would have continued as planned (they would have just assumed the carriers were down south or wherever - but certainly not waiting to ambush the IJN). Thus, even if we assume some minor conspiracy to not warn Nagumo it ultimately changed nothing.
Ranillon
My apologies, but that wasn't the point I was discussing. Never was it intended to even imply that Nagumo was conspired against in any fashion. I merely pointed out that the notion that Japanese high command knew anything about the U.S. carriers was entirely a falsehood, a construct of the movie producers.
多門さんの意見具申を聞いていれば全滅は逃れたのに。
空母は飛行甲板を潰せば終わり。
その後は、巡洋艦に任せればよかっただけ・・・
まぁっ今更ですが!
Had they listened to Yamamoto in the first place they never would have started a war they couldn't possibly win. From Midway to the end they were on the defensive. After American industrial power kicked in, as Yamamoto predicted, it was game over.
The US started the war by issuing the shoot on sight order.
@@OneLastHitB4IGo If Imperial Japan had listened to Yamamoto, US would have never entered and obliterated IJ.
You are wrong they knew that since the beginning. That's why they wanted the USA to surrender like Russia did. How? By doing the same they did. Win a decisive battle. And that was midway. They wanted to lure them. There wasn't a plan B
The infamous Fog of War at play. The presence of the American submarine near French Frigate Shoals disrupted Japanese plans to use the island for a reconnaissance mission for American carriers.
how does a scout plane refuel in the ocean though? just curious..
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex The scout planes involved in "Operation K" where large H8K flying boats, the largest and most heavily armed flying boats in the pacific. They had extremely large fuel reserves as well as 4 engines and could therefore fly great distances. The plan was to have a fueller meet up with the flying boats, have them land on the water, refuel and repair, and then make the second leg of the trip over hawaii, double back, make another fuel stop, and then continue back to base.
@@thenumbah1birdman ohh 😊 thanks , much appreciated
@@MarcDufresneosorusrex Matter of fact, H8Ks had already proven they could reach Hawaii and back using that very route-earlier in 1942 a pair had made a botched bombing run over Pearl Harbor (heavy weather made them miss their target).
@@thenumbah1birdman kay will try to read up on it
1:37,2:57からの 大和機関音が好き(偽物でも)
Instead of having his main force hundreds of miles behind the carriers, Yamamoto should have his navy advance on Midway en masse and also not bother with the Aleutians diversion.
BBs were too slow to keep up with the faster carriers
Did they skip the USN Torpedo plane attack that came before the Dive bombers? And the sequence of events happened super fast here in this movie? It took longer? And are we to believe the Hiryu got not orders??? Hmmm?
They also skip ....fast over the death and destruction on those three carriers dont they?
ミッドウェー海戦の敗戦がなくても日本は結局負けていただろう。
ただし、ミッドウェーで日本が勝利していたら、終戦までに米英海軍はもっと膨大な損害と打撃を強要されただろうけど・・・。
i agree
Funk Yuns
何言ったのかわかったのかよ？
この戦いで勝って、ｱﾒﾘｶに講和を申し入れて戦争を終わらせていたらな…と思います😢
布団が吹っ飛んだ。
OSEAN
嫌多分ミッドウェーで勝てば、講和に持ち込んで、勝てたと思いますが、講和にならなくても、空母を保持出来るのは大きいかと、まぁ歴史にifはないですね。
We broke their code and new their plan. The Japanese invaded islands in Alaska hoping the American carriers would attack their instead of Midway but when we broke their code and learned 4 Japanese carriers were attacking Midway Admiral Nimitz new he wouldn't pass up the opportunity to surprise the Japanese carriers and then sink all 4 for the price of only 1 American carrier
IJN was a weird bunch. thinking that every battle was going to be like Tsushima.
Commander is right but the ship is wrong
Yamato never had those secondaries at rear,that is Musashi and Yamato had more AA than triple-barreled auxillary guns
根本的な計算と打算の為に第1線の人材を失って結局何もかも失って悲しい作戦
確かに
Of the 200 warships, only a task force including four aircraft carriers is fighting. If the two aircraft carriers that conducted diversionary operations against the Aleutian Islands had been used to escort the fleet, they would not have been destroyed by air strikes. The foolishness of dispersing forces.
What is the name of this movie? I’d like to see the full movie.
Why Japanese Navy lost the battle? It was because Nagumo used that 'officer' on his right side. That guy kept providing wrong info and suggestion.....
Same ADM Nagumo who failed to launch the 3rd wave of aircraft to hit tragets of opportunity at Pearl Harbor showed the same weak spine incompetence here at Midway. ADM Nagumo underestimated US industrial might and tenacity.
Nagumo may have been concerned about the US carriers which should have been at Pearl but weren't.
@@majorlagg9321 he was and rightfully concerned, but ADM Nagumo's being over cautious cause The IJN to miss obtaining the true cripping attack sought at Pear Harbor and the attacks on the other bases. Heavy acton was fought over the Koolau Mountains at (that time a seaplane base) NAS Kaneohe.
After two attack waves the location of the task force could have been more easily pinpointed by American subs and ships at seas. Nagumo's explicit orders from the high command were "Bring the fleet back intact. Don't let a single ship sink."
@@whiteknightcat That is very true. The whole objective of the hostilities was to force the USA to capitulate and not bring the USA into WW2. This was to be achieved (as envisioned by ADM Yamamoto) by a devastating crippling one strike blow to the US 7th Fleet removing the U.S. ability to engage in warfare. Yes return the Combined Fleet intact; but not at the cost of NOT fulfilling the plans main objective: Remove the U.S. from any fight. The 3rd strike would most likely secured this objective of The Japanese Imperial Combine Fleet Command. ADM Nagumo failed. Your point is very much Valid!!! Thank you Sir.
@@whiteknightcat Thank you for your reply and note worthy input.
The Japanese relied a lot on land based intel - big mistake.
Awesome movie.
Yamaguchi Knows that the Americans are up to something too bad Nagumo are too oblivious to the fact that the US carrier are nearby
In reality, Yamaguchi knew no such thing. He was as clueless as his superior, Nagumo. Until the scout reported sighting a US surface fleet.
この大戦、真珠湾から作戦失敗😞
特に、このミッドウェーでの大敗、レイテでの作戦ミスなど、指揮官の判断ミスが、全てですね...
山本元帥も、辛かったと思います😥
Ray零 ミッドウェー攻略作戦前に機動部隊側から潜水艦での索敵をお願いしますと頼んだのに返事をうやむやにしてあしらった山本長官率いる連合艦隊首脳にも問題があると思いますがね
Anyone know how I can get this movie?
Because of this, now the entire nation is converted into worshiping girly anime
KanColle?
1:50 このとき何で赤城は受信してなかったんだろう。
1:25 俺も空母いると思う
よく爆弾で甲板に穴とか言ってる意見をよく聞くが、艦攻での動く標的の水平爆撃はあまりにも確率が低く廃止されていた。爆撃は急降下爆撃機の専門。 原因は索敵のミス
あるみかんの上にあるみかん。
What is the title of the movie?
Nagumo and his scrunched up face
In the clip it says battleship Yamato, but I think the modeler was drunk what are the two side triple gun turrets flanking the main guns... the Yamato didn't have those...
No, the Yamato did have those triple 15.5cm guns when she was first launched. It wasn't until later near the end of the war when they removed those in favor of the anti-aircraft guns.
@@ZaChief but the battle ship in the movie is Musashi
@@kaito1213 No, before Yamato got that massive upgrade to remove those secondaries and replace them with AA guns, those secondaries were there, so it is still Yamato, just her configuration from 1941-1943.
ミッドウェーでは大和を先行させて囮にすれば良かった。
「南雲（この場合の中原丈雄）が山口（この場合の阿部寛）に敵空母の撃破をお願いする方が良かったのかなぁ」と思う。
大和でミッドウエ～島を艦砲射撃していればよかったという意見もありますな。ま、だいたい、最初から無理なんですよ。最初から負けが決まってたんですよ。兵隊さんが可哀そうなんですよ。日本の暗号が筒抜けになっていたんだから。日本はアメリカが日本の攻撃がワカラナイ前提で動いているんだから。それに対して、アメリカの方は日本の攻撃を知っていたんだから。だから、ミッドウエ～島の飛行機を攻撃しに行っても、アメリカは飛行機を避難させていたのでいなかったんだよ。
空母があると予想さえしていれば裏を取る行動が出来たのに
負け戦は見てて辛い。
o kap mein kap 教養がにじみ出る立派なコメントでございますね。
貴殿のご両親も誇りに思っておられる事でしょう。
Movie name
空母鳳翔も健在だけど戦場から離れているし、九六式艦戦でもデバステーターぐらい撃墜できるはず、わざと負けたに等しい
What movie is this?
what movie is this
The Japanese navies are powerful just that they had bad communication skills and poor anti air gun skills
What movie?
OLD JAPANESE CULTURE IS SO AWESOME
Its ironic, the Japanese Navy and Yamamoto were influenced by American naval strategist Mayhan, who believed in large and decisive fleet actions.
Well, the Japanese got what they were looking for, but they sacrificed surprise and mass to get it.
So, they lost...
no, they didn't lose. they Fucked Up
@@okapmeinkap7311 They lost plain and simple.
せめて当時の日本軍首脳陣が武田家滅亡の歴史を学び、教訓としていればこんな悲劇は起こらなかったのでは。旧日本軍が武田、アメリカ軍が織田、ソ連が上杉と考えれば歴史は繰り返すものだと思えてくる。