Thanks for the post,see I was not dreaming I wasn't sure about Gary Semics years of racing as a factory pro Honda but I remembered this race,mainly because if u want to win a race to show your the best u do it here or at UNADILLA....thanks I forgot he got the holeshot,and good one,getting back to the holeshot,it my favorite time of the race,and the big secret I have is the holeshot is getting thru the turn and down the next straight faster than anyone just get to the turn first is not as important as getting control of the middle of the turn and being the fastest one out,so the trick consistency and speed out,useally if I'm in the top five getting in the corner I'm keep telling myself give me a lane,give me a lane piece thanks...what's awsum about this video is how cool it is look at the track hardly any banners its just clean ole racing they got ribbon lining the track no clutter....old school.
Huh? the production KX's in the 70,s were the heaviest, worst handling. They always got last in the MXA Jap bike shootouts. 79 might may have been a "turn around" year for them though.
@@EarthSurferUSA 79 absolutely was and even better than most 80 production models. I read those tests then too- that said I find the Kx wildly successful in vintage Mx racing now. I Put no faith in legend hype and etc
Late seventies early eighties were the golden years with all the Americans in the De Nation and the bikes technology improvements, definitely a transitional time
Yea, but "free market" transition. Not EPA government dictatorship force like the 4-stroke engine. Big difference. The bikes getting better every year from about 73-85---was a race itself. We all won. :) I feel so sorry for kids today who can't afford their own bike. Hurts the sport quite a bit,---and we don't even talk about the opportunity lost, not just ion racing, but any part of the industry to work in or start a business. I have been making a living porting gas 30cc 2-stroke engines for RC cars for the last 16 years. That business got me out of poverty that 2 engineering degrees and decades of great experience in manufacturing did not. Compared to the golden days of more free enterprise of the sport in the USA, all kids can do now is look at the pretty colors. The funny think about generational decline in the USA is, you don't see it until you try to take care of yourself, and then you live through it for 40 more years,---and the kids have no idea what you are talking about. My Quote: "We are all born into the USA of today, not having a clue how great we made her yesterday."
Jumps are overrated. Like this one pro rider said, jumps allow the rider to catch his breath. And like I say, the suspension system gets a breather as well. I saw a lot of back ends swappin around goin back and forth in this video.
That makes sense. Personally I prefer whooped out, high gear, full throttle straights. Which reminds me, I came across some videos in what is for me a new off road two wheeled sport. It's a long drag race pitting two MX'ers against each other as they go down a long whooped out straightaway. I haven't seen those vids lately. And I don't remember the name of the sport or the appropriate keywords. Anyone know the name so I can get back to them?
PogoMoto sucks. 10 guys on the same second is a fast parade. Rhythm sections are evil because they keep everybody the same speed so it puts mediocrity on the box where greatness is suppose to be. The FIM is evil.
I had the 1979 YZ125. That was back with a kid making $1.00/hr at a part time job at the age of 12 could afford to buy a brand new MX bike every 2 years, (until the 1986 production rule, which tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years). It was a left over, 9but new) as the 1980's just hit the showroom floors, but that bike only cost me $850, the highest price I paid so far for my 3rd dirt bike, (1978 YZ100 was $800 retail. 76 Kawasaki KD125 was $750). We can call your bike a "dinosaur", but that was the best era of MX in the USA by far, (all the developments with little cost hike till the 1986 rule), and we both know,---you still have just as much fun if not more, not on a $10,000 bike, but that easy to work on dinosaur. :)
They banned "works bikes" in 1985 I thnk. That is when the factories were allowed to do anything to the bikes. Imagine a 180 pound 125cc two stroke with 70hp. Well, they almost made it until the ban. Carbon fibre everything...that is why you dont see crazy bikes that only the pros can ride...
Too bad. You missed some great racing not to be seen anymore on our new "tracks of equality" that keep everybody the same speed as much as possible. How come you kids never complain about cell phone audio and connection quality? It is terrible. You never had a land line phone, (or its privacy). Hannah, the dominant guy of 76-79, (Before he broke his leg in a water skiing accident,---with Tripes driving the boat, long rope I hear, in a unknown river they never skied in), was never able to win Daytona. That was weird.
I like motocross, but after hanging around the sport I know that old saying that mx is the second most demanding sport in the world is total BS. Plenty of pro riders have no muscle strength, benching 135lbs one time would be impossible for many.
@@gilly3380 - I'm not oblivious to the fact that a lot of little girls down through out MX history rode at the semi-pro expert level. I enjoy watching outdoor races and two strokes, but facts a fact, lot of little girls rode close to pro level speed (at the local level). I think Sue Fish started doing it back in the 70's. Then there's that one little blonde deaf girl from a couple years back, I forget her name, she rode Honda's - I think she quit or is MIA for some reason.
You obviously never raced motocross. Imagine maintaining a heart rate of 185-200 for 45 minutes straight! Then there is the mental aspect. I've raced cars and motocross. While racing cars, I can literally think about other things (like what's for dinner later) while I'm racing. While motocrossing however, it requires three times the concentration. It's like doing push-ups, squats and pull ups the entire race.
Pure Gold! Being able to see Bob Hannah race when he was at his absolute peak is getting a glimpse of true brilliance. So many great riders, my childhood hero’s.
Now this era through to the late 80s was when motocross/supercross was awesome, anyone of the top 10 were contenders. Semics, Dangerous Darrel Shultz,Tripes, & Hannah all took turns on the lead & then the Jammer won it!
@@EarthSurferUSA Eli Tomac of Monster Energy Star Racing Yamaha won the 2022 Daytona Supercross for the sixth time, breaking Ricky Carmichael's record of five Daytona Supercross wins. Tomac's victory at Round 9 in March 2022 gave him 18 points and stretched his points lead
Actually, I would have liked to see the 1979 advertisements too. I like to see people make money in the free market. I hate that other cave man mentality.
Back in the day, when it all started for me. I remember them, including David Baily and his wreak that put him in the chair. I was a long time David Baily fan.. Weird to see this now... still cool though!
They say people remembered exactly what they were doing when they heard the news that JFK was shot dead. I would not know, because i was born the day after he was buried, (which was a big turning point for our nation toward communism, but I did not realize that for a few more decades.). When I heard the news that David bailey was paralyzed, I was taking my break from my cooking job at the bar to watch Motoworld when Larry Meyers (sp), published the news on the show. I was eating a cheeseburger deluxe on that Wednesday evening, with onions and olives, fries and a Mt. Dew,----------36 years ago.
@@Tew730 oh MAN! lol, yt never listed your reply. Just the other guy. No I didn't, but it was on the news. It showed him going over the handle bars, I think he was going down a hill when it happen, it was long time ago. It put him in a wheel chair. Even had a article spot in Dirtbike and Motocross magazine(I subscribed to Dirtbike). He was a big deal rider like how Pastrana is. But he had His own learning school that traveled around you could sign up for. Even had a announcement spot in said magazines that gave times and dates and where they be held at. He was very well known back in the day.
12:15 That was Bob Hannah, being honest but not as brutal as saying, "I am racing against a bunch of lazy guys." I notice the next interview With Jimmy Weinert at min 13:05: "I am very healthy, and working a lot harder this year. Going after Bob Hannah." :)
That's funny I raced a 125 red model they sounded like bumble bees I also had the silver 250 model which I flat tracked remember compression releases? Everything is relevant because in 3 years these present bikes will be obsolete.
I hate rhythm sections. They may look cool, but they are designed to keep everybody the same speed instead of separate the talent so we can see who has the most. It also wrecks havoc on the minds of the most talented. To me, is shows the evil of the FIM.
Now they all ride with their elbows down, because they raise the bars as high as they can get them, (actually, the freestyle set up, but they can't figure that out.), and the levers don't point down anymore so they can't re-grip the throttle when getting on the gas. It is like the younger generation was taught that their parents, (elders), are old fashioned, and even stupid,--so they are starting from scratch. Tall bikes, ape hanger bars, and I see a ton of amateurs who can't turn a bike with out a berm. They are lucky the tracks are smooth today.
Yeah that's a fact most people don't know top pros get a one year contract to show there stuff or they get a gold watch and a ride to the next teams shops.Its performance oriented investment that's all...
@@donrutter6765 The kids don't get it. Laughing at the early days of the sport that started a great industry, is like laughing at their own Grand Mother for starting their own family.
Bob Hanna. Just damn. The early '80s were amazing. Brock and RJ. Wow!!
Thanks for the post,see I was not dreaming I wasn't sure about Gary Semics years of racing as a factory pro Honda but I remembered this race,mainly because if u want to win a race to show your the best u do it here or at UNADILLA....thanks I forgot he got the holeshot,and good one,getting back to the holeshot,it my favorite time of the race,and the big secret I have is the holeshot is getting thru the turn and down the next straight faster than anyone just get to the turn first is not as important as getting control of the middle of the turn and being the fastest one out,so the trick consistency and speed out,useally if I'm in the top five getting in the corner I'm keep telling myself give me a lane,give me a lane piece thanks...what's awsum about this video is how cool it is look at the track hardly any banners its just clean ole racing they got ribbon lining the track no clutter....old school.
The good old days when I was a kid.
Killer video and race..Glory days..
Jammer on the SR250
Getting it done !!! Best strategy and execution and best bike , production 250s same story in 79 , Kx was so light and quick .
I Fell in Love with Kawasaki during this era!
Huh? the production KX's in the 70,s were the heaviest, worst handling. They always got last in the MXA Jap bike shootouts. 79 might may have been a "turn around" year for them though.
@@EarthSurferUSA 79 absolutely was and even better than most 80 production models. I read those tests then too- that said I find the Kx wildly successful in vintage Mx racing now. I Put no faith in legend hype and etc
These old videos are fun to watch thank you
lol. turns the left wheel in celebration. for celebration nowadays they turn the bike upside down. so cool to see how much supercross has changed.
haha he said waggle that wheel. the lingo was pretty silly too :)
Late seventies early eighties were the golden years with all the Americans in the De Nation and the bikes technology improvements, definitely a transitional time
Yea, but "free market" transition. Not EPA government dictatorship force like the 4-stroke engine. Big difference.
The bikes getting better every year from about 73-85---was a race itself. We all won. :)
I feel so sorry for kids today who can't afford their own bike. Hurts the sport quite a bit,---and we don't even talk about the opportunity lost, not just ion racing, but any part of the industry to work in or start a business. I have been making a living porting gas 30cc 2-stroke engines for RC cars for the last 16 years. That business got me out of poverty that 2 engineering degrees and decades of great experience in manufacturing did not. Compared to the golden days of more free enterprise of the sport in the USA, all kids can do now is look at the pretty colors. The funny think about generational decline in the USA is, you don't see it until you try to take care of yourself, and then you live through it for 40 more years,---and the kids have no idea what you are talking about.
My Quote: "We are all born into the USA of today, not having a clue how great we made her yesterday."
great upload thanks 12 laps whoa
There will never be another
HURRICANE HANNAH !!
Man that old skool track looks like a flat track compared to today's supercross dirt tracks.
yeah and you wont see 40 racers line up for any supercross nowdays
Jumps are overrated. Like this one pro rider said, jumps allow the rider to catch his breath. And like I say, the suspension system gets a breather as well. I saw a lot of back ends swappin around goin back and forth in this video.
That makes sense. Personally I prefer whooped out, high gear, full throttle straights. Which reminds me, I came across some videos in what is for me a new off road two wheeled sport. It's a long drag race pitting two MX'ers against each other as they go down a long whooped out straightaway. I haven't seen those vids lately. And I don't remember the name of the sport or the appropriate keywords. Anyone know the name so I can get back to them?
PogoMoto sucks. 10 guys on the same second is a fast parade. Rhythm sections are evil because they keep everybody the same speed so it puts mediocrity on the box where greatness is suppose to be. The FIM is evil.
And when SX tracks keep everybody the same speed, the pogo action may excite some,---but the lap time differences could come from flat track.
R.I.P. ..Ken Squire
every little bump like a whoop
How this is true motorcross racing people!! These guys took a shit kicking!! These guy wore kidny belts just to holed there guts in place!
Yea, 60 years old, and I can't find a good kidney belt anymore. :)
awesome Weinert stopped Hannah redused him to nothing # 21
I have a 79 YZ250 it's a dinosaur but it's my dinosaur
I had the 1979 YZ125. That was back with a kid making $1.00/hr at a part time job at the age of 12 could afford to buy a brand new MX bike every 2 years, (until the 1986 production rule, which tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years). It was a left over, 9but new) as the 1980's just hit the showroom floors, but that bike only cost me $850, the highest price I paid so far for my 3rd dirt bike, (1978 YZ100 was $800 retail. 76 Kawasaki KD125 was $750).
We can call your bike a "dinosaur", but that was the best era of MX in the USA by far, (all the developments with little cost hike till the 1986 rule), and we both know,---you still have just as much fun if not more, not on a $10,000 bike, but that easy to work on dinosaur. :)
My 79 YZ was my dream bike in high school by the time I got one I was probably 40 years old I also have a 1981 it 465
"Kawasaki Let The Good Times Roll"
They banned "works bikes" in 1985 I thnk. That is when the factories were allowed to do anything to the bikes. Imagine a 180 pound 125cc two stroke with 70hp. Well, they almost made it until the ban. Carbon fibre everything...that is why you dont see crazy bikes that only the pros can ride...
I don't care how many pounds it weighed they are slow compaered to now
They did not make them.
70HP 125? Lay off the liquor bro.
50+ hp. Suspension wasnt up to todays par, but the motors were.
You also need to lay off the liquor.
I can’t watch this out of focus fuzzy crap.
Too bad. You missed some great racing not to be seen anymore on our new "tracks of equality" that keep everybody the same speed as much as possible.
How come you kids never complain about cell phone audio and connection quality? It is terrible. You never had a land line phone, (or its privacy).
Hannah, the dominant guy of 76-79, (Before he broke his leg in a water skiing accident,---with Tripes driving the boat, long rope I hear, in a unknown river they never skied in), was never able to win Daytona. That was weird.
I like motocross, but after hanging around the sport I know that old saying that mx is the second most demanding sport in the world is total BS. Plenty of pro riders have no muscle strength, benching 135lbs one time would be impossible for many.
It's indurance, GP motocross 45 minute moto s, try it
Lol. You're obviously oblivious.
@@gilly3380 - I'm not oblivious to the fact that a lot of little girls down through out MX history rode at the semi-pro expert level. I enjoy watching outdoor races and two strokes, but facts a fact, lot of little girls rode close to pro level speed (at the local level). I think Sue Fish started doing it back in the 70's. Then there's that one little blonde deaf girl from a couple years back, I forget her name, she rode Honda's - I think she quit or is MIA for some reason.
fitness and endurance are different attributes compared to outright muscle strength. I don't think many weight lifters would be goood at MX....
You obviously never raced motocross. Imagine maintaining a heart rate of 185-200 for 45 minutes straight! Then there is the mental aspect. I've raced cars and motocross. While racing cars, I can literally think about other things (like what's for dinner later) while I'm racing. While motocrossing however, it requires three times the concentration. It's like doing push-ups, squats and pull ups the entire race.
Pure Gold! Being able to see Bob Hannah race when he was at his absolute peak is getting a glimpse of true brilliance. So many great riders, my childhood hero’s.
Weinert was in top condition - really impressive
Jimmy Weinert was amazing on a bike, The corner speed was very impressive even for these days
Now this era through to the late 80s was when motocross/supercross was awesome, anyone of the top 10 were contenders. Semics, Dangerous Darrel Shultz,Tripes, & Hannah all took turns on the lead & then the Jammer won it!
This was the first supercross I ever went to i I have not missed a Daytona supercross since. Was a great race this year 2022.
What was so great about the 2022 race?
@@EarthSurferUSA Eli Tomac of Monster Energy Star Racing Yamaha won the 2022 Daytona Supercross for the sixth time, breaking Ricky Carmichael's record of five Daytona Supercross wins. Tomac's victory at Round 9 in March 2022 gave him 18 points and stretched his points lead
Jammin' Jimmy showed the Hurricane how it's done.
Actually, I would have liked to see the 1979 advertisements too. I like to see people make money in the free market. I hate that other cave man mentality.
Watched all these guys through the 70s. Magoo was the most off the hook if the bunch.
Remembering reading in Cycle News that The Jammer won and beat Bob. Was amazed! Always liked Jimmy. Old guard put it on em all that day.
Hannah was my second fav rider behind Magoo ;)
Back in the day, when it all started for me. I remember them, including David Baily and his wreak that put him in the chair. I was a long time David Baily fan.. Weird to see this now... still cool though!
you saw the wreck/crash?
They say people remembered exactly what they were doing when they heard the news that JFK was shot dead. I would not know, because i was born the day after he was buried, (which was a big turning point for our nation toward communism, but I did not realize that for a few more decades.).
When I heard the news that David bailey was paralyzed, I was taking my break from my cooking job at the bar to watch Motoworld when Larry Meyers (sp), published the news on the show. I was eating a cheeseburger deluxe on that Wednesday evening, with onions and olives, fries and a Mt. Dew,----------36 years ago.
@@Tew730 oh MAN! lol, yt never listed your reply. Just the other guy.
No I didn't, but it was on the news. It showed him going over the handle bars, I think he was going down a hill when it happen, it was long time ago. It put him in a wheel chair. Even had a article spot in Dirtbike and Motocross magazine(I subscribed to Dirtbike). He was a big deal rider like how Pastrana is. But he had His own learning school that traveled around you could sign up for. Even had a announcement spot in said magazines that gave times and dates and where they be held at. He was very well known back in the day.
Like watching 3D without the glasses.
🏁Team Green 🏁
Come out ahead on a KX 250
KAWASAKI !
I became a fan of Team Green in '79. Wardy is my all time fav rider ;)
Jim The Jammer Weinert
what a race!!
12:15 That was Bob Hannah, being honest but not as brutal as saying, "I am racing against a bunch of lazy guys."
I notice the next interview With Jimmy Weinert at min 13:05: "I am very healthy, and working a lot harder this year. Going after Bob Hannah."
:)
That's funny I raced a 125 red model they sounded like bumble bees I also had the silver 250 model which I flat tracked remember compression releases? Everything is relevant because in 3 years these present bikes will be obsolete.
you got your fix junkie hehehe...junkie I hate that word-it reminds me of all these pukes that run around stealing from everyone and causing problems
your tired of living punk I think you need to reconsider your reply
where are the dragon backs and rhythm sections?
Ha they weren't invented in "79! Daytona's always more of a national than a supercross.
I hate rhythm sections. They may look cool, but they are designed to keep everybody the same speed instead of separate the talent so we can see who has the most. It also wrecks havoc on the minds of the most talented. To me, is shows the evil of the FIM.
Where's the 1979, 1980, race's this is the only one filmed hard to fucking believe where's the racing film
When I was a kid one of my favorite posters was of Gary Semics on a Kawi it's wierd seeing him on a Honda.What a race so much competition.
Why did the announcer keep saying it was the Daytona Moto rather than Super (cross) !
What month was this race? Like Feb.?
Isn't it during Dayton speed week ? From what I remember
Always in March
HANNAH WAS NASTY!! Great upload bud!!!
I was there.
I-----am jealous. :)
I LOL at the auto-racing announcers doing MX!
What is weegee? Just a failed actor actually. He was hire to push propaganda, since the government tells us what to do now.
Weinert had an odd 'elbows down' riding style. It worked!
You know what can work? You getting some bitches
Now they all ride with their elbows down, because they raise the bars as high as they can get them, (actually, the freestyle set up, but they can't figure that out.), and the levers don't point down anymore so they can't re-grip the throttle when getting on the gas. It is like the younger generation was taught that their parents, (elders), are old fashioned, and even stupid,--so they are starting from scratch. Tall bikes, ape hanger bars, and I see a ton of amateurs who can't turn a bike with out a berm. They are lucky the tracks are smooth today.
Yeah that's a fact most people don't know top pros get a one year contract to show there stuff or they get a gold watch and a ride to the next teams shops.Its performance oriented investment that's all...
The football shoulder pads have always cracked me up. Smart. I think it was the next must have after the helmet and crazy leather boots.
why don't the pros wear chest protection doesn't make sense
The pads were for rocks that get roosted up. And they worked great. Leather boots were tough as nails back then.
@@donrutter6765 The kids don't get it. Laughing at the early days of the sport that started a great industry, is like laughing at their own Grand Mother for starting their own family.
Like Anderson and tomac
And 10 other guys all going the same speed today on these "tracks of equality".