no fr and like its esp sad cause a lot of dsmp fans ive met are also neurodivergent, imagine hearing a creator youve loved for years target your community so suddenly when you thought it was a safe space
Stop it pisses me off how teenage girls can’t like anything without being made fun of! Like that’s where the misogyny comes from and it isn’t Jack’s fault for these be comments
upon further inspection of the meme what i find crazy is that the slur doesnt even flow nicely with the sentence its just hammered in there because he or whoever made that meme was just really excited to say it 💀
it ruins the flow of the sentenced the whole thing stops when you read it just to continue again . "becoming a tommyinnit fan" works so much better bc you can guess from it being on the dark side that he means it as an insult. if you wanted to put an insult in the words to make it even clearer and ruin your flow without saying a slur though theres so many other words to choose from 😭😭😭😭😭
look if you’re using the slur as. a slur and in a derogatory way to derogatorily belittle a group of people then you definitely can’t be the one to Reclaim a slur
One thing that I really admire about Jack is that he isn't afraid to tell people that they f'ed up. It takes guts to do that in general, let alone on the internet! Good on ya!
2020 really IS back. This is crazy. Also had no idea what was the actual like reason behind the cancellation thing that happened, I just knew of Jack's apology and being like okay lol I don't think Jack's a misogynist, moving on. Never thought of it again. But it was THAT? Just cause he agreed/didn't clock Mizkif making a jab at George about having a fan base of teenage girls... Like I'm so glad I don't have Twitter cause huh
Yup. It really makes you wish you had whatever problem free life those people have, that they think THAT comment is a super misogynistic thing worth spending so much energy over. Not like there's a Manosphere wave of actual, genuine hatred of women sweeping the globe or anything.
The thing that annoys me, and probably all of us, is the fact that he used that word to hurt and insult people. I get what Jack is trying to say. Yes, you may be autistic or neurodivergent, but you wanted to make fun and belittle a group a people. (Many of which are neurodivergent and have been called that in a hateful way) It’s a case of “no one asked” and spiteful behavior.
If you use a slur in a way to belittle or derogatorily refer to a group of people, including in the way it was originally used, and especially if it's to others than yourself, then you aren't reclaiming anything. You're just saying a slur.
I absolutely appreciate jack manifold so much. He is willing to hear everyone’s perspectives, he is extremely loyal and stands up for his closest friends and he is completely honest in everything. He can also openly say he doesn’t like people which I respect fully. You don’t have to like everyone, not even as an influencer.
If you think not saying it to his face, not even to his face over a call is a "chad move" god help this generation. Sorry to tell you that is not and Tommy and Jack wont have the guts to say that to Mizkif face.
@@BananaabeeeI mean it’s actually better if you view a certain party or person as negative, it’s really healthy to just not interact with them, simple as that 🤷♂️
If he can’t understand why certain things he has said and done are wrong and inappropriate, there needs to be someone there to rain check everything he does publicly. The fact that he doesn’t have a social media manager, or publicity team blows my mind.
Fr. People have been saying for nearly HALF A DECADE he needs publicity managers, because he loves stirring shit up and genuinely thinks he's always in the right. 90% of his controversies wouldn't have happened if he paid someone to be like "bro this is not a good idea". but alas, all he has left are yesmen
i cant believe how relevant he wants to be its so funny you handled this well man im glad to see people finally standing up to his bs and calling him out on it
12:44 what I find funny is that, yeah you lot have been cringe, been a bit silly even, but XQCs glazing stream with orange fella was so weirdly corrupt (convicted felon*) that I was able to write a 1500 word academic essay on the moral and philosophical repercussions of the stream. If your feck up is that bad, I think you win the "more cringe" title. gawd they're insufferable.
i honestly LOVE how much backbone both jack and tommy have. they have never compromised their morals (from what i’ve heard), they apologise for stuff now that has been long forgotten and cut off people that aren’t compatible with their views, which honestly is so refreshing to see.
This kinda reminds me of why I continue to watch creators like Jack after the DSMP. Always been so real, honest and actually respectful of his audience. I feel bad for not being here from the start, but genuinely Jack has to be one of my favourite creators on the platform atm. Thank you for speaking out 🙌❤️
Yup! One of the reasons i still watch jack occasionally despite not really being into other ex dsmpyt is bc i remember one time he said on a stream that he wants to be the kind of cis straight ally who can argue with queerphobes so that queer victims don’t have to. In a space where a lot of queer/disabled/poc/gender/etc minority issues are often at best ignored and at worst aggravated, its nice for someone to have said they’re committed to being a friendly face. Especially when on a lot of other people’s pages we are quite literally the butt of the joke.
Jack i can tell how angry u are after your voice shook when you yelled. This is all a load of shit; just know millions are gonna stand with you in this
I got ADHD and I was always raised to not say the R word. And it’s been that way my entire life because I don’t got it as bad as some others do. Like people that are fully mentally disabled. Like he is fully capable of doing many things others can’t. It’s honestly sickening. - a 20 yo nurse.
Hot take but to reclaim a slur u gotta remove it from negative use😭 like i call my brother slurs as a greeting, its reclemation bc im not insulting him. If i call someone a slur as an insult then thats just using the slur as a slur
Maybe because he made a clip just bashing someone for existing and it went viral, making creators react to it? Like I don’t get your point. If something is popular, people are bound to see it and react to it
@@Aqlmniii I'm not sure if you payed attention but Tom wasn't really the one bashing the other creator for existing, the other creator did. And at the moment he did give hints that he didn't wanna talk to ,Mizkit, I think his name is. I dunno man, believe what you wanna believe but the drama surrounding them is quite silly and unnecessary
@@_ani__ are you ok in the head? He went on a podcast and talked about mizkif and said he hated him for his existence, and he hated on his every word and mannerisms, bashing him in front of every one of his viewers. And now you’re wondering why other creators are “suddenly” ganging on him. And then you have the audacity to say they are weird for calling out your idol on his shit behavior
@Aqlmniii lmao youre taking this way too seriously, I doubt grown ass men can't take a joke and if it wasn't that's one hell of a reaction lol. If anything, you're the one defending YOUR idol here lmao it's not like mizkit is a saint either
@Aqlmniii and like I said believe what you wanna believe. It's a petty misunderstanding after all. I doubt your Lord and savior mizkit could handle himself
26:00 there is no way on earth that this guy, less than a year after battering another certain creator for a shit apology, can post something this disingenuous. I mean he never said sorry ONCE or even implied any regret, and ended with "hopefully I can be forgiven" what goes through this man's head
I’m also autistic and personally I have a dark sense of humor so I use it self deprecatingly but I’d never use it for someone else cuz it really is disrespectful
@@Jnight2339 regardless of your personal feelings society deems it a slur, so do with that information what you will. Say it, don’t say, just know people have the right to be offended and the right to defend themselves if used that way even if it’s a joke. That’s why I only use it in self depreciation, there’s no victim and it remains funny
legit what was he thinking, hes a grown man with a huge following using a majorly looked down upon slur towards a massive group of people.. "we were okay with people calling me it" like a handful of people with hardly any following.. hes insane
it's so fuckin weird, he's a fully grown man that has to have some critical thinking, yet he does things and excuses himself because "well . other people did it so umm idk why r u attackinh me" my brother in christ use your brain maybe ?????? you're old enough to understand why things are bad on their own
it's so bloody weird that he's a fully grown ass man that HAS to have some critical thinking yet excuses his actions like that "well uummm people did it so i can also do it" my brother in christ maybe use your brain?? you're old enough to understand what is right and what is wrong on your own oml
16:33 I have a language receptive disorder. Back in 2013, I had a teacher call me the r slur because I was struggling in his class. Even if he was neurodivergent, it was still hurtful to me back then and I still remember that experience. I don't really understand why people are bringing back the r slur like it's okay now. I often keep hearing people saying it. I'm afraid to call out on it because I don't want people to see nor treat me like I'm a winey overly sensitive baby. The word has always been used in a negative context against neurodivergent people therefore I don't see how it can possibly be reclaimed. I get that some people may misunderstand and think that being neurodivergent gives them a pass to use that word. They may think it's comparable to how black people can use the n word however there's a major difference people are forgetting. A black person saying the n word is often used in a positive light as a way of saying "brother/sister" amongst their fellow black friends, family, and neighbors. They turned what was used as a nasty word against them into something positive amongst their community. Whether you're neurodivergent or not, saying the r word will still come out offensive. Who says the r word doesn't change that fact. It's still a hurtful word. I don't see a world where neurodivergent people will say "Hello my "r slur" to each other in a friendly manner. If this was to happen in the future, That would be one interesting twist of reality.
Any person calling you whiny is looking for an excuse not to address the fact that they are being disrespectful and oppressive. Call these things out, and even if it was a mistake on your part(I don't think it is the case with r-word, no one should call anyone that), you can always look back on your behaviour and correct it. As any person should. But, as Jack says, if a person has trouble understanding where they went the wrong way, they need to have people that explain it in a way they can understand. That is the responsible thing to do
heads up for anyone who wants to start listening to the podcast, they do this segment where they say their worst moment of the week, it can be a little confusing if not explained beforehand
When people discuss who can and cant use the r slur they forget that autism is a spectrum and everyones experiences can be vastly different. A person who is low support needs autistic could have never been called the r slur and once they get diagnosed they could be like "well im autistic i can use it" and use it as a slur. Another person who is more obviously autistic and has been called the r slur a lot throughout their life could find it really offensive and derogatory. Just because someone is of the group the slur is used against doesnt mean they suddenly cant say the slur in a derogatory way. Reclaiming is different from simply using the word. Autistic people who dont think the r slur is bad tend to fall into the circle of "aspie supremacy". All and all, from what ive heard from the autistic community over the years is to never use the r slur as an insult or in a derogatory way. I'm not autistic (afaik) so if any autistic and/or mentally disabled people have anything to add on or to correct me about, let me know.
Just adding to this, the r-slur does not refer to autism, it refers to intellectual disabilities. Autism is not an intellectual disability. People without intellectual disabilities should not be reclaiming the r-slur, even if they are autistic. To do that is insensitive and speaking over people who do have intellectual disabilities and face very specific forms of ableism because of it.
@@nathanthetailor Yeah, Intellectual disabilities can go with Autism sometimes, but Autism is a developmental disorder, not an intellectual one, right?
that word literally serves as a way for me and my friends to do bits where we pretend to be ableist against eachother 😭 we are ALL autistic and it’s all in jest, we would never use that word as a derogatory word for anyone else. it’s literally just an inside joke between us. like come on
@@notyourdaughter666i do the exact same thing you do (also w/ the f-slur as people in the LGBTQ+ community). Also, you sometimes need a stronger word than stupid.
I’m autistic and the use of the r slur in this context is NOT reclaiming it. Reclaiming a slur means not using it as a slur! If you are using hateful language and intending to to hurt someone then you are not reclaiming it! You are just saying a slur!!
@@V1DE0-STARZit's like when people use the word queer. It used to be a derogatory way to call someone gay but know people use it to describe themselves. Their not insulting themselves, they're taking away the negative connotation
I woke up from a nice nap to see 500+ messages in my group chat talking about this, liveblogging everyone who was going live and talking about this. What a wild ride to have
Oh my god i just caught on to the legit mysogyny in what Mizkif said. Bro what's wrong with having teenage girls in your audience. crazy how everytime people use it as an insult or bring it up derogatoraly they can never explain why it's *actually* wrong outside of saying mysogynistic things (or maybe trying to insinuate the creator's *into* them, but uh. that's not the teenagers's faults that's the creator needing to be put in jail)
“I can reclaim the word” which means using the slur exactly how weirdos would use it, great work mate 💀 What on earth was he thinking? That was never going down well LOL
16:33 HAHAHAHA OMG BRO WHAT DREAMS ACTING LIKE HE DIDNT START THE SMP smp lead to Tommy and others really blowing up, so, that’s just funny to me he’s acting like he doesn’t have the same in his fan base
Yeah reclaiming a slur doesn't mean "getting to use it as an insult without consequence". To me it means you can call yourself that slur, without meaning it as self-hating. And if you have friends who also identify with the slur, y'all can probably use it in your friend group. You can NOT go and call just anyone that slur. Let's take the word "queer" as an example. Some LGBT+ people don't identify as queer, even though it is a very widely used term, used neutrally even outside of the LGBT+ group. So it's not anyone's place to then call people by that term, because to some it is still the slur. And even then, there's a big difference in saying "the queer community" as a blanket statement VS. calling a group YOU'RE NOT A PART OF AND OPENLY DISLIKE "a bunch of queers" or something.
Currently twisting and squiming in the fashion of the common earthworm (not bloodworms, shut up im talking reference) and avoiding the pursuit of the jaw of the early bird but i cannot stop that jack manifold grind
@@anitaremenarova6662 no he didn't learn to do research. You don't even know the story so stop spreading misinformation on people like a garbage human. I'm sure you hate when people do it to Jack.
4:31 minutes in and I’m already having a heart attack WDYM YOURE STREAMING WITH CAR SEAT HEADREST OMG I’m feeling sick how old is this vod I’m not on twitch much HAS IT ALREADY PASSED and if so UDBAKWOEUE this is insane Will Toledo my saviour meeting the almighty jack manifold like WTF this is the crossover of lifetimes
Sameee i was literally listening to the CSH song last night at work on loop. My friend (the one that got me into CSH) was over yesterday and we’re talking about lot about CSH. I’m freaking out lol
As a far as I'm aware only people with specifically intellectual disabilities can reclaim the R slur. Austims doesn't inherently fall into this category. For example I'm austisc, but also have a college degree and would consider myself quite smart, even though theword has been used against me I still can't reclaim it. Regardless you can't reclaim a slur by using it in the common offensive way to insult a huge group.
Imagine showing this to a dsmp fan in 2020-2021
i would have combusted
They'd have a fit
You would’ve been doxxed
I would’ve cried a lot
@@lemon_eater03same💀
The fact that he didn't only insult disabled people, but he went after his FAN BASE??? He called HIS fans the r slur 😭
It’s a lil funny
It’s the cherry on top and I definitely know he KNOWS that he royally fucked up because imagine insulting YOUR own stans
OH???
no fr and like its esp sad cause a lot of dsmp fans ive met are also neurodivergent, imagine hearing a creator youve loved for years target your community so suddenly when you thought it was a safe space
it's kinda funny though ngl
guys i think the shut up im talking patreon is 7 dollars
no i think it’s 7 dollars
I think its actually 7 dollars
sorry but I'm pretty sure it's 7 dollars
im pretty sure its 7 dollars but i might be wrong
I don’t know about that, I thought it was 7 dollars
"Only 15 year olds watch you!" what's wrong with fifteen year old girls....? WHY CAN'T THEY ENJOY ANYTHING????
Stop it pisses me off how teenage girls can’t like anything without being made fun of! Like that’s where the misogyny comes from and it isn’t Jack’s fault for these be comments
Yeah let’s never start a sentence with “what’s wrong with 15 year old girls” I get you but please never say that again
@@redwiltshire1816 Perhaps you need to disconnect from the internet a bit.
@@redwiltshire1816have you considered that they might be a 15 year old girl
@@redwiltshire1816 that one friend that's too woke
37:11 THE WAY JACK DISCONNECTED THE CALL AND THEN SAID "i dont like that guy" KILLED ME😭
(says an ableist slur) "i had no intention of being ableist"
Not even that, says it IN A DEROGATORY MANNER. Like bro that is the definition of ableism 😭
Call a 15mil fan base a slur "I don't want to be hateful"
“i’m reclaiming it by using it in the exact same way it was used initially”
He’s not ableist he just hates everyone equally
He didnt study reddit to understand the meaning of the word
21:30 “That’s like being shot and saying you’re reclaiming guns.”
Literally almost choked on my pizza
upon further inspection of the meme what i find crazy is that the slur doesnt even flow nicely with the sentence its just hammered in there because he or whoever made that meme was just really excited to say it 💀
this
He could’ve so easily have said stupid or something 😭
Ngl it fits perfectly, the word is super aggressive 💀
it ruins the flow of the sentenced the whole thing stops when you read it just to continue again . "becoming a tommyinnit fan" works so much better bc you can guess from it being on the dark side that he means it as an insult. if you wanted to put an insult in the words to make it even clearer and ruin your flow without saying a slur though theres so many other words to choose from 😭😭😭😭😭
hes just using it as an insult its not that deep
look if you’re using the slur as. a slur and in a derogatory way to derogatorily belittle a group of people then you definitely can’t be the one to Reclaim a slur
you’re simply Saying A Slur
@@jamhopseySAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACKKKK
PREACH
Yes!! Reclaiming is different from just saying it
THATS WHAT IIIM SAYIN
Just got called the r slur by a grown ass man but can't stop the jack manifold grind \0/
Oh my god same
Dream's Reddit post came up as I looked to my other monitor with Minecraft open, and the splash text says "Rule #1: it's never my fault" lmao
THAT'S CRAAAZY LMAOSNJSJS
He could have just said a tommyinnit fan HE COULD HAVE JUST SAID A TOMMYINNIT FAN
No actually 😭😂
Like it was a lot easier not to say the word, it was not necessary at all
here before the thumbnail change 💀
Lmao
same lol
What was it
Oh
Feel like it was directed at Tommy idkkkkkkkk……
Gotta say for how frustrated Jack and Tom are they’ve both handled this really well, even their trolling is graceful 💀💀
Currently falling out of a plane and plummeting towards the earth but I can't stop that Jack Manifold grind
fr, I've been in a wormhole for 3 years but can't stop that Jack Manifold grind
waterbucket clutch
thanks tyler creator
ive got some falling to do
Bro's Sonic
One thing that I really admire about Jack is that he isn't afraid to tell people that they f'ed up.
It takes guts to do that in general, let alone on the internet!
Good on ya!
2020 really IS back. This is crazy. Also had no idea what was the actual like reason behind the cancellation thing that happened, I just knew of Jack's apology and being like okay lol I don't think Jack's a misogynist, moving on. Never thought of it again. But it was THAT? Just cause he agreed/didn't clock Mizkif making a jab at George about having a fan base of teenage girls... Like I'm so glad I don't have Twitter cause huh
Honestly it may be because Orange Man Bad is back and people like him feel comfortable saying what they think again. It was a peaceful 4 years
@@TrioArtsOfficialit was a shit four year what r you on about.
@@FREAKYNCRRanger Better then the years under the convicted felon
@@FREAKYNCRRanger we had peace from trump and people like him
Yup. It really makes you wish you had whatever problem free life those people have, that they think THAT comment is a super misogynistic thing worth spending so much energy over. Not like there's a Manosphere wave of actual, genuine hatred of women sweeping the globe or anything.
The thing that annoys me, and probably all of us, is the fact that he used that word to hurt and insult people. I get what Jack is trying to say. Yes, you may be autistic or neurodivergent, but you wanted to make fun and belittle a group a people. (Many of which are neurodivergent and have been called that in a hateful way)
It’s a case of “no one asked” and spiteful behavior.
If you use a slur in a way to belittle or derogatorily refer to a group of people, including in the way it was originally used, and especially if it's to others than yourself, then you aren't reclaiming anything. You're just saying a slur.
@ perfectly said, thank you 🙏🏻
the r slur isnt even reclaimable for all autistic people. it can only be reclaimed by people with interlectual disabilities
I absolutely appreciate jack manifold so much. He is willing to hear everyone’s perspectives,
he is extremely loyal and stands up for his closest friends and he is completely honest in everything. He can also openly say he doesn’t like people which I respect fully. You don’t have to like everyone, not even as an influencer.
Mizkif calling in and him hanging up and saying "I don't like that guy" is such a chad move
If you think not saying it to his face, not even to his face over a call is a "chad move" god help this generation. Sorry to tell you that is not and Tommy and Jack wont have the guts to say that to Mizkif face.
@@Bananaabeee it was a joke calm down
@@Bananaabeee ur taking that way too seriously lmao
@@Bananaabeee why are u malding over this lmaolo
@@BananaabeeeI mean it’s actually better if you view a certain party or person as negative, it’s really healthy to just not interact with them, simple as that 🤷♂️
If he can’t understand why certain things he has said and done are wrong and inappropriate, there needs to be someone there to rain check everything he does publicly. The fact that he doesn’t have a social media manager, or publicity team blows my mind.
Fr. People have been saying for nearly HALF A DECADE he needs publicity managers, because he loves stirring shit up and genuinely thinks he's always in the right. 90% of his controversies wouldn't have happened if he paid someone to be like "bro this is not a good idea". but alas, all he has left are yesmen
i cant believe how relevant he wants to be its so funny
you handled this well man im glad to see people finally standing up to his bs and calling him out on it
12:44 what I find funny is that, yeah you lot have been cringe, been a bit silly even, but XQCs glazing stream with orange fella was so weirdly corrupt (convicted felon*) that I was able to write a 1500 word academic essay on the moral and philosophical repercussions of the stream. If your feck up is that bad, I think you win the "more cringe" title. gawd they're insufferable.
I wanna see this essay now it sounds interesting
link it
Only 1500 that’s not much? What did you write?
i honestly LOVE how much backbone both jack and tommy have. they have never compromised their morals (from what i’ve heard), they apologise for stuff now that has been long forgotten and cut off people that aren’t compatible with their views, which honestly is so refreshing to see.
This kinda reminds me of why I continue to watch creators like Jack after the DSMP. Always been so real, honest and actually respectful of his audience. I feel bad for not being here from the start, but genuinely Jack has to be one of my favourite creators on the platform atm. Thank you for speaking out 🙌❤️
Yup! One of the reasons i still watch jack occasionally despite not really being into other ex dsmpyt is bc i remember one time he said on a stream that he wants to be the kind of cis straight ally who can argue with queerphobes so that queer victims don’t have to. In a space where a lot of queer/disabled/poc/gender/etc minority issues are often at best ignored and at worst aggravated, its nice for someone to have said they’re committed to being a friendly face. Especially when on a lot of other people’s pages we are quite literally the butt of the joke.
it is diabolical to be 35 and beefing with a 20 year old 💀
FR LIKE MOST OF THE TIME THEY KNEW EACHOTHER TOMMY WAS A TEENAGER 😭😭😭😭he’s literally beefing with someone he knew as a child 😭
Jack i can tell how angry u are after your voice shook when you yelled. This is all a load of shit; just know millions are gonna stand with you in this
i’ve never been into drama but this whole thing is insane. felt pretty uncalled for on dream’s part 😐
I got ADHD and I was always raised to not say the R word. And it’s been that way my entire life because I don’t got it as bad as some others do. Like people that are fully mentally disabled. Like he is fully capable of doing many things others can’t. It’s honestly sickening. - a 20 yo nurse.
THIS STREAM WAS INSANE
was it today
@ yup
I fucking hate how people weaponise the 15 year old girl audience thing, as if Miskifs audience of 15 year old boys is inherently superior
Hot take but to reclaim a slur u gotta remove it from negative use😭 like i call my brother slurs as a greeting, its reclemation bc im not insulting him. If i call someone a slur as an insult then thats just using the slur as a slur
What, so do you just say “whats up re tard?” 😂
You’re so valid and real for this omg
@@St1ck_buggsEXACTLY
the “welp, back to coding 🤓👆” was the most le reddit moment elon musk x the everything app shit i’ve ever heard in my life
Still dont get why all those creators suddenly started ganging up on Tom. Mans was just doing his own thing, people are so weird
Maybe because he made a clip just bashing someone for existing and it went viral, making creators react to it? Like I don’t get your point. If something is popular, people are bound to see it and react to it
@@Aqlmniii I'm not sure if you payed attention but Tom wasn't really the one bashing the other creator for existing, the other creator did. And at the moment he did give hints that he didn't wanna talk to ,Mizkit, I think his name is. I dunno man, believe what you wanna believe but the drama surrounding them is quite silly and unnecessary
@@_ani__ are you ok in the head? He went on a podcast and talked about mizkif and said he hated him for his existence, and he hated on his every word and mannerisms, bashing him in front of every one of his viewers.
And now you’re wondering why other creators are “suddenly” ganging on him. And then you have the audacity to say they are weird for calling out your idol on his shit behavior
@Aqlmniii lmao youre taking this way too seriously, I doubt grown ass men can't take a joke and if it wasn't that's one hell of a reaction lol. If anything, you're the one defending YOUR idol here lmao it's not like mizkit is a saint either
@Aqlmniii and like I said believe what you wanna believe. It's a petty misunderstanding after all. I doubt your Lord and savior mizkit could handle himself
It is CRAZY how manipulative that apology is. Like, holy shit, dude.
Timestamp?
AND the fact that it's not even an actual apology
It's not rlly manipulative, just dismissive, and not an actual apology
OKAY BUT WHY DID HE HAVE TO ATTACK TOMMY LIKE HUH?
probably cuz his ego got hurt after tommy talked about him in shut up im talking
I think bro went on his villain arc
Ig to just get attention and people would just talk abt him??? But i don't think dropping slurs will grant you a good kind of attention..
Fr like what did Tommy ever do to you??
tbh tommy hates him and still believes hes a gr00mer
sorry but i saw a live chater saying "who's xqc" i busted
Deserved honestly x doesn’t even do anything anymore I just use his channel as a vent
@@redwiltshire1816 (i never liked him personnaly)
I don't really know who the person is
@@lcurrin9724 well i dont really think you need to...
@sleepyunao got it. Will stay away
26:00 there is no way on earth that this guy, less than a year after battering another certain creator for a shit apology, can post something this disingenuous. I mean he never said sorry ONCE or even implied any regret, and ended with "hopefully I can be forgiven" what goes through this man's head
i’m autistic and not even i like using that word💀 it’s just disrespectful
I’m also autistic and personally I have a dark sense of humor so I use it self deprecatingly but I’d never use it for someone else cuz it really is disrespectful
I'm autistic and i don't find it to be a slur tbh
I’m not autistic so I don’t say it.
@@Jnight2339 Well it is, so
@@Jnight2339 regardless of your personal feelings society deems it a slur, so do with that information what you will. Say it, don’t say, just know people have the right to be offended and the right to defend themselves if used that way even if it’s a joke. That’s why I only use it in self depreciation, there’s no victim and it remains funny
legit what was he thinking, hes a grown man with a huge following using a majorly looked down upon slur towards a massive group of people.. "we were okay with people calling me it" like a handful of people with hardly any following.. hes insane
it's so fuckin weird, he's a fully grown man that has to have some critical thinking, yet he does things and excuses himself because "well . other people did it so umm idk why r u attackinh me" my brother in christ use your brain maybe ?????? you're old enough to understand why things are bad on their own
it's so bloody weird that he's a fully grown ass man that HAS to have some critical thinking yet excuses his actions like that "well uummm people did it so i can also do it" my brother in christ maybe use your brain?? you're old enough to understand what is right and what is wrong on your own oml
This is like me, as a gay person, came out and called a group of people F slurs. Thats not reclaiming it, thats literaly just using the slur AS A SLUR
Ye like, I'll call my CLOSEST friends that lovingly. But literally no one else will hear that word leave my lips
16:33 I have a language receptive disorder. Back in 2013, I had a teacher call me the r slur because I was struggling in his class. Even if he was neurodivergent, it was still hurtful to me back then and I still remember that experience. I don't really understand why people are bringing back the r slur like it's okay now. I often keep hearing people saying it. I'm afraid to call out on it because I don't want people to see nor treat me like I'm a winey overly sensitive baby. The word has always been used in a negative context against neurodivergent people therefore I don't see how it can possibly be reclaimed. I get that some people may misunderstand and think that being neurodivergent gives them a pass to use that word. They may think it's comparable to how black people can use the n word however there's a major difference people are forgetting. A black person saying the n word is often used in a positive light as a way of saying "brother/sister" amongst their fellow black friends, family, and neighbors. They turned what was used as a nasty word against them into something positive amongst their community. Whether you're neurodivergent or not, saying the r word will still come out offensive. Who says the r word doesn't change that fact. It's still a hurtful word. I don't see a world where neurodivergent people will say "Hello my "r slur" to each other in a friendly manner. If this was to happen in the future, That would be one interesting twist of reality.
Any person calling you whiny is looking for an excuse not to address the fact that they are being disrespectful and oppressive. Call these things out, and even if it was a mistake on your part(I don't think it is the case with r-word, no one should call anyone that), you can always look back on your behaviour and correct it. As any person should.
But, as Jack says, if a person has trouble understanding where they went the wrong way, they need to have people that explain it in a way they can understand. That is the responsible thing to do
Poor Tom the moment he’s finally honest everyone hates him for it- it’s a shame he doesn’t give an honest shit 😂
currently choosing which path out of two i should take but cant stop that jack manifold grind
You can't reclaim the word if you're literally using it in the same oppressive way
Is it just me or is the Shut Up I’m Talking patreon 7 dollars?
nah man i think it's 7 dollars idk though
No no I'm pretty sure it's 7 dollars
heads up for anyone who wants to start listening to the podcast, they do this segment where they say their worst moment of the week, it can be a little confusing if not explained beforehand
Idk I’m like. Certain it’s seven dollars
This is genuinely insane I didn’t even know that this was happening before this vod wtf 😭
Same I don’t even know what’s going on I just saw the thumbnail and got very confused
New dsmp drama in the big year of 2025? 2020 IS SO BACK BABY
This new Dsmp lore goes crazy.
Frrrrr
literallyyy
When people discuss who can and cant use the r slur they forget that autism is a spectrum and everyones experiences can be vastly different. A person who is low support needs autistic could have never been called the r slur and once they get diagnosed they could be like "well im autistic i can use it" and use it as a slur. Another person who is more obviously autistic and has been called the r slur a lot throughout their life could find it really offensive and derogatory.
Just because someone is of the group the slur is used against doesnt mean they suddenly cant say the slur in a derogatory way. Reclaiming is different from simply using the word.
Autistic people who dont think the r slur is bad tend to fall into the circle of "aspie supremacy". All and all, from what ive heard from the autistic community over the years is to never use the r slur as an insult or in a derogatory way.
I'm not autistic (afaik) so if any autistic and/or mentally disabled people have anything to add on or to correct me about, let me know.
General rule is that you shouldn't call people you aren't close friends with slurs even as a joke.
@@anitaremenarova6662depends on the culture in wales we call everyone slurs we have no chill or care
Just adding to this, the r-slur does not refer to autism, it refers to intellectual disabilities. Autism is not an intellectual disability. People without intellectual disabilities should not be reclaiming the r-slur, even if they are autistic. To do that is insensitive and speaking over people who do have intellectual disabilities and face very specific forms of ableism because of it.
It’s just a useless word. There’s barely any way to use it well that isn’t just blatant ableism
@@nathanthetailor Yeah, Intellectual disabilities can go with Autism sometimes, but Autism is a developmental disorder, not an intellectual one, right?
This is actually crazy I feel like I'm witnessing history rn
Okay that thumbnail DID catch me off guard
“i’m autistic i can reclaim it” girl what do u MEANNNN.
as an autist, i’m pretty sure there isnt a lot of ppl who wanna bother w that word in general
that word literally serves as a way for me and my friends to do bits where we pretend to be ableist against eachother 😭 we are ALL autistic and it’s all in jest, we would never use that word as a derogatory word for anyone else. it’s literally just an inside joke between us. like come on
@@notyourdaughter666i do the exact same thing you do (also w/ the f-slur as people in the LGBTQ+ community). Also, you sometimes need a stronger word than stupid.
Like you can’t use it like a normal slur and say ur reclaiming it
Tommy has too much aura. Each beef he comes out even stronger.
I’m autistic and the use of the r slur in this context is NOT reclaiming it. Reclaiming a slur means not using it as a slur! If you are using hateful language and intending to to hurt someone then you are not reclaiming it! You are just saying a slur!!
I don't think you can not use a slur as a slur if it's literally a slur
@@V1DE0-STARZit's like when people use the word queer. It used to be a derogatory way to call someone gay but know people use it to describe themselves. Their not insulting themselves, they're taking away the negative connotation
jack finding that tweet was basically the scene with hank from breaking bad finding the book while taking a shit
I woke up from a nice nap to see 500+ messages in my group chat talking about this, liveblogging everyone who was going live and talking about this. What a wild ride to have
stream starts at 3:34
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Thanks
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Jack saw Harry pass him in subs and knew he had to do something
Oh my god i just caught on to the legit mysogyny in what Mizkif said. Bro what's wrong with having teenage girls in your audience. crazy how everytime people use it as an insult or bring it up derogatoraly they can never explain why it's *actually* wrong outside of saying mysogynistic things (or maybe trying to insinuate the creator's *into* them, but uh. that's not the teenagers's faults that's the creator needing to be put in jail)
“I can reclaim the word” which means using the slur exactly how weirdos would use it, great work mate 💀
What on earth was he thinking? That was never going down well LOL
16:33
HAHAHAHA OMG BRO WHAT DREAMS ACTING LIKE HE DIDNT START THE SMP
smp lead to Tommy and others really blowing up, so, that’s just funny to me he’s acting like he doesn’t have the same in his fan base
Yeah reclaiming a slur doesn't mean "getting to use it as an insult without consequence". To me it means you can call yourself that slur, without meaning it as self-hating. And if you have friends who also identify with the slur, y'all can probably use it in your friend group. You can NOT go and call just anyone that slur.
Let's take the word "queer" as an example. Some LGBT+ people don't identify as queer, even though it is a very widely used term, used neutrally even outside of the LGBT+ group. So it's not anyone's place to then call people by that term, because to some it is still the slur. And even then, there's a big difference in saying "the queer community" as a blanket statement VS. calling a group YOU'RE NOT A PART OF AND OPENLY DISLIKE "a bunch of queers" or something.
You fucking nailed it right on the first sentence.
Much respect to Tom and Jack for sticking with morals and learning through all the time I've watched them
You can tell how baffled jack is tho cos bro had literally 0 reason to drop that
Using a slur, in a negative way isn't reclaiming it. It just enforces the negative connotations
30:23 why does he sound like hes about to start sobbing 😭😭
This was a wild stream to be my first 😭
welcome to the grind🔥
Welcome bud, it only gets worse! (But also better. It’s a weird phenomenon lol)
Welcome to the jack manifold grind 👌🏼
Can’t stop that jack manifold grind
oh man you’re in for a treat then. welcome to the grind mate
There are two options for creators that survived the 2020's: maturing and realizing how unhealthy that was, or multilpying it by ten
Currently twisting and squiming in the fashion of the common earthworm (not bloodworms, shut up im talking reference) and avoiding the pursuit of the jaw of the early bird but i cannot stop that jack manifold grind
The Exile Arc Irl looks good
dsmp beef in the year of our lord 2025. what is happening 😭
this whole situation is so insane omg
me when i stand like a prik 🧍
watched the stream this was so insane
Mizkif is so ridiculous lmao grown ass man
Don't forget he covered for a predator
@@anitaremenarova6662 no he didn't learn to do research. You don't even know the story so stop spreading misinformation on people like a garbage human. I'm sure you hate when people do it to Jack.
CANT STOP THE JACKMANIFOLD GRIND
Am I the only one who thought the "apology" sounded like he was only apologising to dsmp fans who are also his fans, not the tommy fans...
That's exactly what he said too
@V1DE0-STARZ Oh lmao 😭 I haven't finished watching this vod yet
JACK IS DOING A STREAM WITH CARSEAT HEADREST???
the fact that xqc has the audacity to say anything with his way of making content is wild to me. 😭
im sobbing why is the thumbnail so funny
jack laughing at mizkif's apology when he admitted he's 35 and getting too old for youtube drama 😭😭
Currently in squid games but can’t stop that jack manifold grind ‼️‼️‼️
Jack's honesty is so refreshing
CAR SEAT HEADREST. OH MY GOD??
IM SO SHOCKED WTF
I THOUGHT MY MIND HAD ALUCINATED THAT PART OF THE STREAM CUZ WTF
@@Liibers29 LITERALLY MY HEART SKIPPED A BEAT 😭😭
@@Oliver-lovee SAME LMAO
I dont remember the price of the shut up im talking patreon, it is like 6 dollars?
7🤓☝️ anyway gtg back to coding
new meme
its so funny how he thought everyone would be on his side bro.. this is insanely broke of him....
Right like there's no way rent is this high, sell gnf before resorting to tweeting slurs please 😭
how much was the shut up im talking patreon again?
I think it was about 7 dollars ... Tho im not sureee..
its free gng...
I think 7 dollars? Maybe
Its possible that its more than $6 but in this economy I don't think it would be more than $8.... not sure tho
5 dolar
0:37 real to the person who said they paused their pjsk pulls
21:45 bro was so baffled he just stopped and sat there
4:31 minutes in and I’m already having a heart attack WDYM YOURE STREAMING WITH CAR SEAT HEADREST OMG I’m feeling sick how old is this vod I’m not on twitch much HAS IT ALREADY PASSED and if so UDBAKWOEUE this is insane Will Toledo my saviour meeting the almighty jack manifold like WTF this is the crossover of lifetimes
Also I’m not on Twitter so I’m really glad Jack is giving
Us hottest tea :D
its tomorrow :3!!
Sameee i was literally listening to the CSH song last night at work on loop. My friend (the one that got me into CSH) was over yesterday and we’re talking about lot about CSH. I’m freaking out lol
2021 is back...
Wtf is going on I feel like I've left for a bit and rejoined to absolute chaos
CAR SEAT HEAD REST CAR SEAT HEAD REST
the "fork in the road" joke from mizkif was SO fucking funny oh my god
This is like watching a wwe match and every time I think another metal chair can’t be thrown in the ring it is 😭✋🏻
I love the lack of capitalisation of dreams name in the title
I can’t believe there’s DSMP drama in 2025 man 😭
watching this in the bath was an experience
As a far as I'm aware only people with specifically intellectual disabilities can reclaim the R slur. Austims doesn't inherently fall into this category. For example I'm austisc, but also have a college degree and would consider myself quite smart, even though theword has been used against me I still can't reclaim it.
Regardless you can't reclaim a slur by using it in the common offensive way to insult a huge group.
Bro did no one in the chat recognize ranboo
Do you have the time stamps