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  • Episode 30 - Hades The Gray Waste, and the Bleak Eternity of Gehenna
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 135

  • @annie_xo
    @annie_xo 4 роки тому +71

    “Everything is grey here” sounds like my hometown, Gothenburg Sweden, in the winter. Constant grey skies, fog and rain.

    • @genghiskhan6809
      @genghiskhan6809 Рік тому +4

      Sounds about right for a town name “Gothenburg”.

  • @MrRoanRocks
    @MrRoanRocks 7 років тому +160

    Haphdes And Gehephnna - The PHs are silent!

  • @michaelblair6365
    @michaelblair6365 3 роки тому +11

    An earlier discussion of the Yugoloth towers actually had three towers being worked on, theoretically to give the Yugoloths greater power in the Lower Planes. Hades' and Gehenna's towers were completed. The trouble they had was that the Demodands would constantly attack the one planned in Carceri, such that the full plan was endlessly delayed.

  • @jonathanwells223
    @jonathanwells223 7 років тому +53

    You know a little dark, a little gloomy and hey... Full of dead people, what are you gonna do?

  • @lastchancesurvival
    @lastchancesurvival 4 роки тому +10

    Im running a homebrew that is carrying out a mission for the devils in the bloodwar. And this has helped me really flesh out how bleak the world is around them. Thanks for doing what u do!

  • @samgardner8456
    @samgardner8456 7 років тому +81

    I really do enjoy how much clarification you've brought to the planes. Now I wish you could somehow break down the map of Faerun. Because that's just as crowded and convoluted as all the planes together.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому +25

      My next Forgotten Realms videos (after the outer planes finishes) will be on the region of Amn, hopefully I can break apart Faerun to make it a bit more understandable :)

    • @catnipslip
      @catnipslip 2 роки тому

      Ml m

  • @LordZeromaru
    @LordZeromaru 7 років тому +44

    Just a minor correction here: The Blood War wasn't ended in 4e edition. Just got staled by a 100 years (it re-started in the final books of 4e).

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому +9

      good to know thanks!

  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 7 років тому +9

    I've been waiting all this time for Mechanus! Can't wait!
    You've been doing an excellent job covering the details, good sir. Thanks!

  • @drewschultz6587
    @drewschultz6587 7 років тому +7

    Thank you for your great videos; I've enjoyed them all since you began. Gehenna is one of my favorite places to take my players. If ever you make another video about it, make sure to include Nimicri, the mimic-moon-city.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому +1

      Will do! Thanks!

    • @trinisantana
      @trinisantana 7 років тому +2

      Drew Schultz and forgot to speak about the general of Gehenna and the tower thats made from a dead gods spine plus the fact that he creates disease with his throne pretty cool fact.

    • @LordMortanius
      @LordMortanius 4 роки тому +1

      @@trinisantana That's the Oinoloth. The General of Gehenna has nothing to do with Khin-Oin and the Siege Malicious.

  • @ks_brittain
    @ks_brittain 7 років тому +4

    As a budding DM these videos have been an incredible inspiration. Thank you so much! I recommend your channel to any D&D nerd I find :)

  • @onelittleorange6648
    @onelittleorange6648 7 років тому +18

    Loving these planes videos so much. Great job with them

  • @misterjoshua5720
    @misterjoshua5720 3 роки тому +2

    Another reason for the Yuggoloth to migrate to Ghenna is to ensure that they cannot be truly destroyed if killed in their holdfasts and sanctuaries there. They will reform in Hades, migrate back to Ghenna, and bolster their defences, or simply rebuild.

  • @nomadstan123
    @nomadstan123 7 років тому +6

    Ive been running a kind of homebrewed planescape campaign and your videos have helped tremendoulsy! Thanks Jorphdan (the ph is silent)!

  • @EthanGeye
    @EthanGeye 5 років тому +50

    3:46 no Matt Mercer I am out

  • @ShinM.
    @ShinM. Рік тому

    Wow. It's cazy how much this channel has grown, yet the content and presentation is roughly the same. I'm glad that you stuck with it and hope you know all that you have accomplished in the 5 years or so since you produced this.
    I don't think I have to say it, but keep it up, you're doing amazing.

  • @JosephHelbing
    @JosephHelbing 7 років тому +1

    Every one of these explanation videos have been wonderful. You really have a knack for this.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому

      Thanks! It's been fun, and I'm learning so much making them =D

  • @gninamah5
    @gninamah5 7 років тому +10

    Any chance we could get 1 or 2 more "Races of DnD" videos. Would love to know more about Tritons, Tabaxi, Aarokocra, Goliaths, Warforged, and the other Volo's and Ebberon Races

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому

      Good idea! I'll add it to my list of topics :D

  • @vaetortanner
    @vaetortanner 4 роки тому +1

    It says in the Monster Manual on Yugoloths that they were created in Gehenna by a sisterhood of night hags believed to be commissioned by Asmodeus, the Lord of the Nine Hells. Pg. 311 under "Spawn of Gehenna"

  • @DeyaViews
    @DeyaViews 7 років тому +10

    Good vid, but at 3:48 you say Gehenna is inhabited by Yugoloths, yet show a picture of Demodands, inhabitants of Carceri..

  • @Alexrider02
    @Alexrider02 7 років тому +6

    This is such a fantastic series. So many great ideas for high-level games. :D

  • @yergeoff
    @yergeoff 6 років тому

    great videos. concise and clear. no filler. very useful.

  • @rachdarastrix5251
    @rachdarastrix5251 3 роки тому +1

    For those of you asking. YES. This IS where warped forests and crimson forests are found.
    Demonic trident pitchforks have to be shafted with something.

  • @sumanadasawijayapala5372
    @sumanadasawijayapala5372 Рік тому

    I like how Hades resembles Elysium in that if you fail saving throws then you're stuck there.

  • @brygelupin9774
    @brygelupin9774 6 років тому

    These are great, very helpful. I am going to have to watch through them all a few times to prep for my upcoming games

  • @amosericson
    @amosericson 7 років тому +1

    Thank you Jorphdan!

  • @Hollerman
    @Hollerman 7 років тому +1

    thank you fore the next video i have been waiting all week fore it.

  • @Sekhubara
    @Sekhubara 6 років тому +22

    A bit of knowledge: The name Gehenna comes from the Arabic word Jahaanam, meaning Hell.

    • @WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile
      @WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile 6 років тому

      Sekhubara are there any more connections to Arabic folklore ?

    • @deviousmile669
      @deviousmile669 5 років тому +5

      I think all of them comes from a iteration of hell in different folklore, hades from greek, hell from giudeochristianity, carceri from the italian word for prison, abyss from...well basically every religion ever, pandemonium from greek or latin for chaos, limbo from dante's comedy etc...

    • @skaetur1
      @skaetur1 3 роки тому

      Arabic is derivative.

    • @Sekhubara
      @Sekhubara 3 роки тому

      @@WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile Genies.

    • @Sekhubara
      @Sekhubara 2 роки тому

      @@chargedfanboy Ah, so it is.

  • @arcian2006
    @arcian2006 7 років тому +1

    as always great stuff !

  • @Babidi111
    @Babidi111 6 років тому +2

    so awesome, great job sir!

  • @overse7938
    @overse7938 3 роки тому

    Both planes explained
    Hades-everything wants to kill you
    Gehhena-everything wants to kill you're bank acount

  • @gohantanaka
    @gohantanaka 3 роки тому

    It’s Jorfdan! I’m looking up lore for the mini campaign I’m running.

  • @reubenfromow4854
    @reubenfromow4854 7 років тому +34

    What do Larva grow into? I mean, they ARE Larva, right?

    • @theusfilipe
      @theusfilipe 7 років тому +3

      I may be wrong, but either demons or devils, I think it depends on what plane you are on.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому +23

      Not sure if they grow up. I couldn't find anything (doesn't mean it's not out there) but I think the larva are a reflection of the overwhelming despair of Hades. These sad helpless worm like creatures wiggling in the Gray Waste....

    • @theusfilipe
      @theusfilipe 7 років тому +2

      Yeah I may be wrong, I remember it very faintly from a 4e book back when I was a teen, it may be the person that eats a bunch of larva becomes a demon/devil.

    • @trinisantana
      @trinisantana 7 років тому +3

      Reuben Fromow they become either demon , devil or yogoluth based on the npc or pcs alignments

    • @Bfdidc
      @Bfdidc 6 років тому +8

      They can become lower devils or demons, or they are stuck as larva. Larva are used as spell components or eaten as food by more powerful creatures. Night Hags are particularly known to trade in larva.

  • @Bliss467
    @Bliss467 6 років тому +4

    How does a town exist in hades? Wouldn't it be entirely populated by larvae?

  • @lionbryce10101
    @lionbryce10101 6 років тому +1

    2:18 nice rhyme

  • @JascDark
    @JascDark 6 років тому +2

    Wow, Hades is just like 9 months a year in Seattle....

  • @SparrowhawkTheKind
    @SparrowhawkTheKind 7 років тому +2

    Great Video!
    Can anyone explain the role/position of Barghests in Gehenna?

  • @j-fallard5351
    @j-fallard5351 7 років тому +1

    Yay a new video!

  • @ItMeansSun
    @ItMeansSun 5 років тому

    Hey Jorphdan (the ph is silent), been loving your lore videos - it's really been great for things I hadn't previously consider for my campaign so I thank you!
    I'd love it if you also added the names of new places / monsters on screen as you introduce them - would really make searching for them a lot easier! Just a thought :)

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  5 років тому

      I add subtitles so feel free to watch with those on and you can find out how stuff is spelled. Buy yes good point I'll try to do that more in the future. 😁

    • @ItMeansSun
      @ItMeansSun 5 років тому

      @@Jorphdan you legend! I just assumed the subs were going to be the usual auto generated ones - thanks for meeting me know!

  • @evanlarson4565
    @evanlarson4565 4 роки тому +1

    I like the creativity they put into Hades, but I think Hades pulled directly from Greek myth gets a bad wrap. Greek Hades was not only where bad people went but, also where heroes went.

  • @rachdarastrix5251
    @rachdarastrix5251 3 роки тому +1

    Wait, so those larva were human beings once?
    Thank you. I was just about to eat one.

  • @davidragan9233
    @davidragan9233 5 років тому +1

    Hmm...Which realm is the home of the Succubus race? Originally though it was one of these two.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  5 років тому

      Succubus were originally thought to be demons from the Abyss. But later thinking (i.e. 5th edition) says they are devils from the Nine Hells. In short they are fiends and apparently found all across the lower planes.

  • @mrraisbeck
    @mrraisbeck 3 роки тому +1

    Hades and The Shadowfel seem very similar.

  • @kachiechan
    @kachiechan 7 років тому

    I thought for sure when you said "Mercy" that you were about to say "Matt Mercer" LOL

  • @erikandersson906
    @erikandersson906 7 років тому +3

    I tried to look up the tower arcane but I didn't find any thing about it on forgottenrealms wiki.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому

      The 3.5 book Manual of the Planes (page 114) has a brief description of the Tower Arcane.
      www.drivethrurpg.com/product/25109/Manual-of-the-Planes-3e?term=manual+of+the+planes&test_epoch=0&it=1&affiliate_id=728035

  • @argisus1279
    @argisus1279 5 років тому +1

    Kinda reminds me of Shadowfell but there it's more of color gets muted. (Hades I mean)

  • @rightwingersexposed8800
    @rightwingersexposed8800 7 років тому +2

    I am worried with the forgotten realms lore, I don't think it can survive on adventures alone.
    The books brought character to it, with adventures it feels like dry facts.

  • @kingdomofhope3371
    @kingdomofhope3371 4 роки тому +1

    Imagine what the real Hades is like.

  • @soldierofelyon6830
    @soldierofelyon6830 6 років тому +2

    Mythologically, Hades was very different... simply the afterlife, with a good area, bad area, and blah area for the mediocre. It was the only infinite and eternal plane, and Hades was a god of grim justice, punishing the wicked and rewarding the righteous (a Hoar like character). He was the introverted wanderer and watcher, not evil, but noted for being fair if hard.

    • @LordMortanius
      @LordMortanius 4 роки тому +1

      The god Hades exists in D&D. He lives in Pluton, the third gloom, and is otherwise true to his mythological self. The catch is that Charon isn't Hades's servant but an altraloth and the Boatman of the Styx.

    • @ps5056
      @ps5056 4 роки тому

      Yeah... Nobody knew that thanks...

  • @Exisist5151
    @Exisist5151 5 років тому +1

    How is the death of innocence not full of larvae?

  • @whitecreamymilk8436
    @whitecreamymilk8436 7 років тому +1

    the only video with 0 dislikes ever

  • @tigert2092
    @tigert2092 5 років тому +1

    Isn’t the Blood War still ongoing as revealed in Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes?

  • @jaredking5737
    @jaredking5737 3 роки тому

    this dude did not just say “matt mercy”

  • @archam777
    @archam777 2 роки тому

    How did "Asmodeus hurl the Abyss into the elemental chaos" if the planes exist via the "tree cosmology". All the upper plains are reached by the astral and all the lower plains are in the elemental chaos already?? So how does the Abyss get "hurled" to somewhere it already is.......??????
    I can picture it with the great wheel cosmology, but am having trouble visualizing it when thinking about the "tree" cosmology.

  • @PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp
    @PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp 8 місяців тому +1

    I am confused. How or WHY would mortals LIVE in Hades!?!?
    edit : Subscribed

  • @LeKain08
    @LeKain08 2 роки тому

    In Hades "everything is black, white or any shade of gray. The plane is devoid of color".
    Lol, so basically Gray Waste is Soviet Eastern Europe.

  • @WarrenLaFrance
    @WarrenLaFrance 7 років тому

    Well done

  • @cernunnos_lives
    @cernunnos_lives Рік тому

    Hey Larvae can taste good (it's all in the sauces).

  • @AGrayPhantom
    @AGrayPhantom 5 років тому +1

    Geez, I feel really depressed now. These places suck.

  • @ransaktehelder4260
    @ransaktehelder4260 7 років тому +1

    great videos! can you add "uploads" section to front? makes it easier to see new videos if they not showing up on my feed! cheers!

  • @EyalDegabli
    @EyalDegabli 7 років тому +1

    Great video! Hey what about the Outlands?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому

      Yep I have an Outlands and Sigil video in the works!

    • @totinoboy2319
      @totinoboy2319 7 років тому

      Jorphdan You should do a video on the Far Realms

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  7 років тому

      Next weeks video will touch on the Far Realm briefly. Perhaps a more in depth video in the future. :)

  • @andrefairbanks
    @andrefairbanks 4 роки тому

    0:57 Neflheim From FF7 ~ German word for Fog 🌫 Town / Fog 🌫 Dwelling - Ooohhh Cool 😯 ~ THANKS 🙏 FOR ALL OF YOUR CONTENT 😃💖💖💖💖❤️❤️❤️

  • @paryanindoeur
    @paryanindoeur 2 роки тому

    Hades sounds a lot like Portland, Oregon

  • @TerrorBlades
    @TerrorBlades 7 років тому

    Id say the moved to avoid the demins and devils while silently controlling the conflict. But that might be old lore now :S

  • @jprp999
    @jprp999 2 роки тому

    How does Asmodeus "hurl" the Abyss into the Elemental chaos? That's where it was formed in the first place...and a lot of his power is from a shard of the Abyss so it seems unlikely that he can use that against the Abyss itself, seems like D&D is suffering from the same decline in talent as Warhammer.

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  2 роки тому

      sorry he hurled the shard of pure evil into the elemental chaos, and that tore and dug down, creating the abyss.

    • @jprp999
      @jprp999 2 роки тому

      @@Jorphdan That was Tharizdun as far as i understand it (not up on 5th ed re-writes).

  • @lsb2623
    @lsb2623 5 років тому +1

    HELL YEAH!!! AAAAAAARGHH!!!

  • @rickifake02
    @rickifake02 5 років тому +1

    Is this meant for older editions? Because it doesn't match with the nine levels of hell present in 5e

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  5 років тому +2

      Hades and Gehenna aren't the Nine Hells. Baator is the Nine Hells.

    • @rickifake02
      @rickifake02 5 років тому

      @@Jorphdan but doesn't the blood war take place on Avernus? The next storyline is all about it

    • @LordMortanius
      @LordMortanius 4 роки тому +2

      @@rickifake02 The Blood War rages throughout the Lower Planes. Avernus is just one of the many battlegrounds.

  • @r.r815
    @r.r815 6 років тому

    Great video but how can you be neutral evil?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  6 років тому +1

      Instead of Lawful evil or Chaotic evil you're in the middle, you're neutral evil.

  • @theAnalogManifesto
    @theAnalogManifesto 4 роки тому

    Most planes seem repetitive to be honest.

  • @MethosJK9
    @MethosJK9 2 роки тому

    The description of Hades as a gray waste without sun or night devoid of color sounds like Ohio in February.

  • @brotherdylan758
    @brotherdylan758 5 років тому

    So How are these 2 places different from the nine hells?

    • @Jorphdan
      @Jorphdan  5 років тому +1

      They are part of the lower planes. The Nine Hells is a separate plane in the Great Wheel Cosmology. Gehenna, Hades, Carceri all separate the Nine Hells from the Abyss and are the locations the blood war is most active.

    • @brotherdylan758
      @brotherdylan758 5 років тому +1

      @@JorphdanI know that they are different planes but like is there really anything different between those 3 and the 9 layers of hell? Are they just like "knock offs" of hell per say

  • @nukerwolf7788
    @nukerwolf7788 4 роки тому

    The thumbnail is miss spelled it says ghenna instead of gehenna

  • @stephenmartinez8772
    @stephenmartinez8772 4 роки тому

    What is a doobly doo

  • @johatsu553
    @johatsu553 3 роки тому

    What is DnD

    • @emjakos3548
      @emjakos3548 24 дні тому

      Dungeons and Dragons, a tabletop roleplaying game.
      Imagine an author telling a story, but each of the main characters has different person making their decisions.

  • @sneeringimperialist6667
    @sneeringimperialist6667 5 років тому

    They used a picture of the seal of Danzelfar from season 7 of Buffy for a gate...

  • @casualclinton9553
    @casualclinton9553 3 роки тому

    How do I even play on these planes 😭 I don’t have maps of them and I don’t know where anything is. Like Gehenna do they just teleport in and then fall down a slope and die I just don’t know

    • @emjakos3548
      @emjakos3548 24 дні тому

      The astral sea has portals, called "color pools" to each outer plane. Each outer plane also has portals to "neighboring" outer planes.
      That being said, the lower, evil outer planes tend not to be very hospitable.