1972 Chevrolet Chevelle drag racing 1963 Studebaker Lark FACTORY STOCK DRAG RACE
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2021
- 1972 Chevy Chevelle Heavy Chevy drag racing 1963 Studebaker Lark R2 F.A.S.T. FACTORY STOCK drag race
First car is a 1972 Chevrolet Chevelle Heavy Chevy. The other is a 1963 Studebaker Lark R2. The Chevelle has a 402 V8, while the Studebaker has a 289 V8 with a factory Paxton SN60 supercharger. The Chevelle Heavy Chevy 402 was rated 240 net horsepower (300 gross), and the Studebaker R2 was rated 289 horsepower (gross). The Lark features a Borg Warner T10 4-speed manual transmission, and the Chevelle houses a TH400 3-speed automatic. The Super Lark R2 is light; with driver only 3436 pounds. The Chevelle was slightly heavier at 3864 pounds. Rear gearing in the Chevelle is 4.56, and the Lark has a similar 4.55. They only made 53 Super Lark R2 cars in 1963. There were 9503 Heavy Chevy Chevelles produced in 1972.
Remember, both cars participate in Factory Stock class through F.A.S.T drag racing. Make sure you visit their website. www.fastdrags.com
Here are the Factory Stock rules:
Rules
For 1955 to 1979 muscle cars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Drivetrain:
Automatic Transmissions: The transmission and torque converter must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Shift improver kits are allowed. After-market shifters are not allowed. No manual valve bodies. No lightweight internal components allowed.
Manual Transmissions: The transmission must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. 3-speeds may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
Rear Axles:
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed. Driveshaft safety loops are mandatory on all cars 13.99 and faster!
Engine:
Must be factory correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Dealer installed engines and dealer performed engine modifications are not allowed. Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Modifications are prohibited. Blocks do not have to be "numbers-matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only. NO strokers! Random P&G checks are possible. Compression may be increased to the greater of NHRA allowable stock blue print or 1.5 over advertised compression. NHRA
Electrical System:
The battery must be retained in the original location and securely fastened down with the original style hold down. The charging system must be fully operational at all times.
Fuel System and Carburetor:
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Valve Train:
The complete valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Rocker arm ratio must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed. Roller tip rockers allowed as long as correct ratio is used.
Camshaft:
The camshaft must be correct for the model, year, and horsepower claimed for duration, lift, and type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). No roller cams allowed.
Exhaust:
Cast iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. NO internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. The exhaust system may be upgraded to a maximum of 2.5-inch head and tail pipes.
Ignition System:
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
Suspension:
Front Suspension: Stock springs and shocks must be retained. Drag springs and shocks that allow excessive lift during launches are NOT allowed.
Rear Suspension: Traction devices are limited to hop-stop bars for the upper control arms on coil-spring cars. Pinion snubbers and clamping of springs are allowed on leaf-spring cars.
Tires & Wheels:
Reproduction tires or radial tires only. No soft compound tires of any kind allowed. Retread tires are not allowed. Use of traction compounds or rubber-softening chemicals on tires are strictly prohibited.
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Leave your guesses on who you think will win this one! VERY interesting match-up!
Assuming a 402 in the Heavy Chevy, and a supercharged 289 in the Studebaker, this could be tight. Just for fun, I’ll pick the Stude.
You already know......STUDE TOMATO IS GO!
Them old Studebakers are an awesome sleeper so I'm gonna go with the Stude.
Glad to see Ted is still alive and well. My uncle was a friend of Ted's.
He took me over to Ted's house once in the '80s. Ted's red Studebaker flatbed truck in the background carried my uncle to his final resting place. R.I.P. Uncle Luke
Those Stude 289’s were never much for hole shots but they had a long stroke which allowed their top end to be vicious! Loved my 57 hawk.
The Supercharged Larks were definely no joke! One of the quickest cars of the musclecar era. Chevelle got the massive holeshot with all that torque, but the Stude reeled him in..great race!
That Chevy LS3 402 bb has a lot of top end left.
That old guy can drive. He didn’t even need to cut a good light. Had he gotten a better reaction time he would have put bus lengths on ole “Thunder Thighs”.
He’s put down some crazy ETs over the years. And he never seems to lose unless he breaks out.
@@CarsAndZebras Do you happen to know what his best E.T. Is? I’m wondering if he’s ever gotten into the 11’s?
@@lilredexptsc 12.64 is the quickest it has ever gone, and 116.01 is the best mph it's gone. All at that race.
"That old guy" is not the shoe in the Stude'. The driver is a much younger fellow wearing a blue tee shirt that can be seen in Stude' introduction starting a generator. Look at the size of the left arm driving on strip. That is not Ted's arm. But he is not holding back rowing and stomping on that Stude'.
I worked at an AMC dealer that used to be a Studebaker dealer and people that had bought their Studebakers there years earlier, kept bringing them to that same dealer for work. The owner was the same, the dealership just changed from Studebaker to AMC.
Great to see this 80+ year old man still racing and kicking ass in this 4 speed Stud
Heavy Chevy better than I expected - and rips off the line, but holy cow that Lark was booking on the top end. Looks like a bracket racing finish with the Stude blowing by.
The gear he is running utilizes the great low end torque that the Chevy LS3 402 bb puts out.With a 3:37 gear a tiny bit slower in the 1/4 but the Chevelle will leave the Studebaker behind.Even though it was a little detuned that big block was underrated.Hp was rated at lower rpm's.
.....meant top end not close that gear.
Two great cars turning in some darn good times. That Chevelle driver cuts a mean hole shot! And that Stude, sir, a tip of my hat to your car and driving skills! Thank you for these, as always. 🌮 🌮
Big block LS3 402 is a torque beast!
Amazing times from that old Studebaker and 80+ driver!! He makes me feel like a kid at 69!😂 I guess I'll have to get back to the track and relive my youth!
Ted is a superman, he totalled his legendary chickenhawk car and kept racing.
still going 😎
It's really amazing to me how Studebaker went under. I have met people that live and die by the S. They only want Studebakers.
Great drags, great cars! Lark was used by police forces in Melbourne Australia. As a car detailer got to drive one. Plenty of power! What a Lark! Cheers 😃
The stude tomato 🍅 is no joke!!!!!
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I remember my dad talking about a Lark that used to race at US30 dragstrip in 64 and early 65. When that guy bolted on a set of slicks, no one would race him, so he would just practice clicking off low 12s when he launched right. Mean lil cars!
Ted has found the fountain of youth! Bottle it up!
But, that is not Ted rowing and stomping on the Stude' here. Observe the size of the arm while blasting down the strip and look back at introduction. A bigger, younger fella in a blue tee is blasting the quarter mile today...
But still a hot shoe!
Keep kicking butt Ted. 👍🏽
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Yeah that Studebaker is making some awesome power!
I’m sure thankful I never came across one of those Study’s back in the day! I had a really sharp looking 1970 Mach 1 and I would have been devastated to lose to one of these fugly things. And I definitely would have lost. That thing hails ass.
YES DAN ..... THAT THING IS FUGLY AS HELL AND WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY EMBARRASSED TO GET BEATEN BY ONE OF THOSE FUGLY ROCKET SLEDS
I used to laugh at my Dad talking about the Studes. My Gym teacher had a Studebaker Lark, IDK what was in it but he said it was as fast AF. Anyway. There it is.
I wasn’t expecting 12s out of the studdie 👍 13s for the heavy Chevy is pretty impressive too
Your videos are the best! Thanks for making me laugh out loud in the shitter at work!
that’s exactly the situation we aim for
If the Studies were not overpriced , they would still be in business . Sharp looking machine .... I like the higher interior on that Lark !
That Stude is the best!
In the early 60"s my granddad had a 63 Lark convertible my mom would take us to school in. Again, another great video.
thanks for watching 👍
omg,that lark is fantastic,and driver,man,age is just a number,i wish i got same drive at his age,ty for this video:)
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Ok my dad bought a 64. Lark. I was only eight…good thing I was unaware of this option ..
When I was about 12 years old in 1965 there was a guy that had a white and red Super Stu and me and my cousin got to have a ride in it. It scared the shit out of both of us but man I couldn't belive what the car did when he shifted into 4th gear. It's almost like igniting a rocket booster. He went from 60 mph to way over 120 in just seconds and planted us into the seats. I sure am glad to see that old boy still enjoying his car, that was awesome seeing what the old Studi did to come back from behind to beat that de-tuned 396 big block.
Man o man can that Stude reel em in, like a large mouth bass gobbling down a fisherman’s….fly…..
He’s had plenty of practice!
@@CarsAndZebras He chased that guy down like he was some punk kid on his lawn.
I remember seeing the Studebaker drivers Chicken Hawk race car at Muncie Dragway years ago. That car made this studebaker look slow. If I remember correctly, he rolled the car due to a mechanical failure.
WELL THAT'S WHAT A PAXTON SUPER CHARGER WILL DO FOR YOU . MAKE A MIGHTY MOUSE OUT OF JUST ABOUT ANYTHING . KICK XSS AS ALWAYS . 👍👍👍👍👍
It’s a very interesting engine! They were built to hand a compression ratio of up to 15:1!
My mom had a 1972 307ci Malibu--same color, too. Great car. Now, if it had been the size of a 60's Mustang or Camaro...
Don't know if this was already mentioned, but Studebaker was the sponsor of the early '60s television show "Mister Ed."
Buddy is driving the shit out of that damn Chevelle. But that Studebaker is one running SOB
With that MPH, that Lark should be in the 11.70's.
Tough with those tires!
Stude doesn’t have much low end torque. They usually fall behind at the start, catch up on the top end.
@@CarsAndZebras, I've personally seen that car run at Martin. Ted Harbit is a legend! Definitely traction limited.
@@turdferguson4124, MPH through the traps is still a good indicator of potential ET... if traction weren't limited. You can see from the launch, the car isn't sluggish, whatsoever. In a different class and with slicks, that car would definitely dip into the 11s.
@@turdferguson4124 Not Ted Harbit level Studes, but I have had a lot of Studes, and for their displacement, they have killer torque. A helluva lot better torque than a 289 Ford or 283 Chivvie, in my experience.
My '57 Golden Hawk (factory supercharged like the later R2s) had the ancient Flashomatic and 3.31 gears, but you could make driving in 1st gear a smoke show any time you wanted. VERY puny ports and valves. Great for torque down low, but with a blower they will really run harder than they have a right to. In 1962-63, a production R3 Avanti ran just over 170MPH at Bonneville, as Studebaker, under Andy Granatelli's supervision, set something like 338 production speed records there, and more in '64.
Ted had worse than his normal R/T, and the Tomato was spinning off the line like crazy.
The launches of that Chevy were impressive but that little lark just starts flying about mid track.
That might be allowable tires. 75 aspect-ratio in ‘63 but by ‘72 the 60s were common.
Let's Studebaker is very impressive I sure would love to own that car
Oh the humanity! 4 lengths back? and still got him!
The "Original" and "First" Ponycar and the quickest for years.
Old guy that fixed golf carts when I worked at Milicron: "Stoodiebekker"
Great editing and voice-over!
You do an excellent job with this Cars and Zebras
Hi CARS AND ZEBRAS you probably wont see this but great videos and keep up the good work!:)
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Studebaker......scotty I need warp drive !......Now! Aye aye Capt. Here she comes !..............CHEVY LOOKIN VERY HEAVY.....lol
Go Ted! Live long and happy man 👍🏻
Good race that stude is impressive .
The Studebaker Lark's South African history was chequered to the n'th degree. They were assembled in the Eastern Cape and served admirably as awesome South African Police 'chase cars' that could simply not be beaten. They were replaced by Australian built Chevrolets at the end of their extremely distinguished careers, which were extremely well built, dependable, with a myriad of great features, but lacked the 'brute' acceleration and power of the Studebaker. The only vehicles that can lay claim to the title of 'chase car' today are the top of the range BMW's and Golf's in present service. But that's exactly 60 years of motor engineering later!. To all intents and purposes the LEGEND lives on.
Another top notch video Z.
thanks Bill!
I am so looking forward to running my 64 Daytona, it jas a 400hp sbc, 700 trans and 373 geats for now, think im going to put 456 in it , ots just a fun cruiser
Clearly there's a winner here.
Maybe…
LOVE THE STUDEBAKER I BET THE GAS MILEAGE IS GOOD TO
What people don't seem to realize is this. The Chev with it's huge cubes makes gobs of torque. That grants a given off the line advantage. But wait there's more.... By 2/3 the travel down the strip the Chev is all pooped out. No longer accelerating - doing steady state movement.
The R2 without that initial bang boom torque is accelerating all the way. Stude produced the true early version of a
" Grand National" coming
25 years later in vogue as small block forced induction. Stude the leader anywhere from (1953-1957) forward and ahead of the big 3 by 30 plus years. And the 53-4 coupes decades ahead in styling, and the Avanti also decades ahead of the big 3. Studebaker literally DRAGGED the big three into the modern era of performance, styling , braking and much more. Studebaker by itself ended the era of the big 3 barges bathtubs and refridges.
Nice! At the end, you want the Stude win!
I’m in lov wit u cars and zebras
Bomb diggity Boss! 7 of 11! Damn
Very talented drag racer!
Another cool video... The Studebaker was making some crazy top end power! Chevelle was pretty quick, but It seemed to fall on it's face last half - maybe a fuel supply issue? And as usual, really glad your commentary is back...
It's that crazy gear he's running.Also a high volume electric fuel pump is the way to go.
Way too low gears 4.56. Motor is all done at 5000 rpm.
.....a set of 3:37 or 3:39's is how I would run it .
The sack of groceries was over the top...womp womp womp...
Seriously though, made me lol
It’s possible that even by F.A.ST. rules tires used by the Lark would have to be a 75 aspect ratio as “wide oval” was years away.
I’m sure both took advantage of whatever upgrades are permitted but theLark might not be able to handle more compression -- unless higher octane is allowed. Period-correct pump gas ⛽️ in ‘63 was higher than ‘72.
Cool amazing car
Awesome
The 1972 LS3 402 NEVER HAD A AIR CLEANER STICKER!
Studebaker
You’ll have to watch and find out!
Heavy Chevy!
Pretty cool car 👍
I have a 1971 Pontiac GT-37 pretty much the samething as a Chevy!
I wish I knew what these guys did to these "stock" engines to get them to run than fast. I put a 360 in a duster with 3.55 gears,cam,hedders etc and the best it ran was 14.77.
Racing with these guys heads up race after race you learn to get quicker or get left for dead.
Ya shoulda put a 340 in it!(& some 4.10 gears).....not a damn 360!(& 3.55's)🙄
I think the Chevelle would be better if he would dump the 4.56 gears and go with 3.73's. You could hear he was topping out way before the finish.
It did have 3.73 in it previously. It was much slower with that set.
the Chevelle (actually idk i just like the chevelle)
The Chevelle is pretty cool 😎
NICE
that chevelle has NO topend. it's almost like letting go
402 is an SS motor and drive package for a heavy chevy,but heavy chevy was the next up scale model going towards SS!! It could drive as good as an SS it's just a different model!!...In my eyes that Chevelle's always the car for me if it's a 72!!
Next model up was the Malibu 400.My father ordered his in October 1971.Big block LS3 402.He had ordered it with some special goodies from the dealer.Different heads which upted the compression a bit and a slight bigger cam.....Also had bucket seats horseshoe shifter with console and sweep dash....turbo 400 trans with torque converter.....12 bolt posi/w 3:33 gear.Flat good and stock hubcaps
...The ultimate sleeper!.I learned how to drive (and race...lol) in that car......beat everything anybody had on my high school.....miss that car!
Bet that in 63 the ol guy would run 106 airplane fuel with Nathalene moth balls and that Lark was running 11 on the 1/4 .. he had better reflexes 2
What fell out of the bottom of the Chevelle in the last race?
Hey, aren’t you a UA-cam influencer?? Gobble gobble!
I can swallow a hot dog better than the rest
That's what I tell everyone what my 87 Monte SS is.... A Studebaker 😉. They're like....😐.....
Looked as though something red blew out from under the chevelle just before mid track...(?) In the third race.
Something sure did...
That Stude was very impressive. But the driver with his skills and vintage...mic drop
Never heard of a 455 gear..ive seemn 456 gears.
No way in hell that Chevelle was stock. That's 454 times, not a 396 smog motor.
Right that is LS6 times not 300hp .
A 4:56 rear gear in a 72 Chevelle of any kind wasn't a stock rear gear either!! 4:10 i think was the best a 72 could offer stock!!
You can see that the smog crap has been removed.That helps a bit.Also re curving the timing and proper tuning of the big quadrajet carb can make a difference.
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Please tell me there will be commentary.
Watch and find out!
Oh yeah baby! Good thing I’m on the toilet as I’m watching. I’d have soiled myself.
You mean the juvenile clown act 🤡
And I'll guarentee that chevelle aint stock.
Underneath the Chevelle @ 1:05??
SEEMS LIKE THE STUDEBAKER WAS REALLY SLOW GETTING STARTED OR REACTION TIME IS SLOW BUT THAT UGLY THING WILL REALLY FLY ..... CHEVELLE WITH CAST CRANK AND CRAP GUTS RUNNING FASTER THAN SOME L78 CHEVELLES WE'VE SEEN ON THE ZEBRA .... WTF !!!
I hear the nodular iron 3.76" crank are good to 600 horses, much better than the plain iron crank. Early oval port heads (I think they are open chamber in 1972) work much better than large rectangular port heads in these RPM ranges which explains the quicker times than the L-78 engines which are closed chamber, btw. That is the reason I don't put my 074 Winters heads onto my 396/402. It's all about the combination of parts.
@@PatrickjazzguitarBro COME TO THINK OF IT ...
YOUR RIGHT.... THE L78
WASN'T AN OPEN CHAMBER HEAD ... AND
YES OVAL PORT HEADS FLOW BETTER THAN RECTANGULAR HEADS ...
I ALSO THINK THE OVAL HEADS PRODUCED MORE TORQUE ... YES IT DOES ALL BOIL DOWN TO THE RIGHT COMBINATION OF PARTS ....
Any R2/R3 Studebaker...don't mess with them. A 12 second 1/4 mile in the early 60s..from some way overpriced and ugly car. Perfection. There is no better sleeper. If you put drag tires on it..they do wheelies and hit high 11 seconds. 335 hp my ass
Andy Granatelli built the r3 engines, and said he wouldn't let them out of the shop if they didn't make 400 hp on the Dyno. George Krem has Brown Paper Wrapper, which is an r3 Challenger. I believe it made about 460 hp on the Dyno. As I understand it, Ted runs Stude Tomato in a Class that strictly limits how much modification can be done to the car. I believe everything they use had to be available when the car was built. But you better believe that Ted has that r2 engine tuned to perfection.
Chevys are highly overrated.
1970-1972 big block Chevelle is the quintessential muscle car!(ever driven/raced one?)
In 1964 I just bought a 1959 Impala that had the 348 with factory 335 horse and factory 4 speed. Won a lot of street races with that 348 engine. Never seen a real Avanti before and raced one only once. 1st gear shifts at 6,000, I don't see the Avanti, second gear shift and the dam Stude is right next to me. Nothing but respect as I swallowed my pride, still loved that 348 though.