Palpatine Explains Why the Empire FAILED - Star Wars Explained
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The Emperor failed to realize that RULING is HARDER than taking over and the Sith are flawed by its very nature so they were always destined to fail in the end.
In fact, in Rurouni Kenshin the last of the three great imperialists Okubo said that it's harder to raise a new era than to break an old one.
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Siths are dumbass. They exists only because they hated the jedi but once the jedi are gone they don't know what to do with themselves.😅
I disagree. We see this as a movie and therefore focus on the fact that Palpatine died in the end... He ruled for 13 years as chancellor and 22 as emperor. 35 in total. That is a success story, not a failure. Sidious basically became the nr 1 political ruler in the galaxy as soon as he became the sith master and killed Plagueis... But more than all the time he spent ruling, his biggest achievement was the complete eradication of the jedi order.
Imagine if Thrawn didn't have to worry about officers' disobedience.
He wouldve destroyed the rebellion mostly on his own while Vader dealt with remnant jedi. Wouldve been a clean sweep
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA for sure. Honestly, even without Vader, I think Thrawn would have won out in the end. Maybe not by killing all the Jedi (which I think he could have done if the Force allowed) but putting them at such a disadvantage that they accede or flee. Thrawn was unmatched on the battlefield, and I think he's more politically prudent than he lets on
@@RAWDEAL064 imagine the reverse, what if Thrawn was ostracized
There was another fatal flaw: Dart Vader. Anakin did not become a Sith because he wanted power and glory, the usual motivations of a Sith. He didn't care about glory. He want power to protect those he loved, not to control others. That is why, in the end, he turned against Palpatine and saved Luke. That was his motivation all along.
That is very true. Anakin was not the first sith to love, but by the time of palpatine most sith only knew hate. Palpatine simply couldn’t understand anakin’s betrayal until after it happened.
I don't think it was his motivation all along, Once Padme died, he thought he had no one, and allowed his anger to be his motivation. Once he found out his children were alive, I think it rekindled the good in him.
@@zumis1011But his children are, through his eyes, a manifestation of Padme and that is why it kindled the remain light in him. If those children were from another woman, he would have slained both of them without hesitation.
@@WolfaydragoonWhich sith lord had a love one except Vader? Malgus did but he killed her coldly because it was slowing his rise to power down… who else ? Genuine question, I really wonder
Well he did want power. It was just present in Revenge of the Sith novelization. Palpatine was slowly chipping away that Jedi's restraint from possession by promising gifts and promises that Anakin always wanted, not just saving Padme. By the end of the book Vader realized that lust for power killed Padme, and so never really cared for it after that point only until he learned Luke was his son.
"I dont believe it."
"That is why you fail."
I hope Thrawn gets to stay on top for a while. I know the show is called Ahsoka but I NEED Thrawn's Empire
I need that evil! There is no good without evil team better be a power house
There's only one faction that is suited for a stable rule -- the Mandalorians. Their values would form a safer, more united and fairer galaxy... If they had the right leadership. I was quite pleased when I found out that Sabine was being trained.
this opinion was formed mid last year with Swtor. Shae and her followers showed me what they could be... and Heta attempted to steal my own plans... plans now in even more jeoperty. Sae's actions have caused a shit storm of epic proportionsd... the remerfercations of her actions cannot be overstated nearly enough.
When I first read the Thrawn trilogy I was surprised he died at the end. Fans always talk about how great Thrawn is so I thought he plagued the heroes for multiple years. In hindsight Thrawn should’ve been the over arching villain for the entire Bantam era run.
Arrogance was Palpatine’s worst enemy as well as the empire’s in my opinion he was so powerful but couldn’t stop his apprentice from throwing him down a shaft because he was drunk on the darkside
Drunk on dark side drank 😂
even in weapon's design was arrogant, all the fire power to destroy a planet just imagine if jin erso's father hadn't had his revenge in its design just displayed how arrogant he was all that power only to be taken out by a small x wing
Easy at the end of the day sith aren’t really built to rule. They way the live will tear everything apart eventually.
That’s why there can only be 2. The old empires every time near victory in the old republic end up destroying themselves internally hence the republic and Jedi always win.
More than 2 fails each time
@@timothygibney159 True but with two people always at the ready to back stab you kinda get the same problem. Like every 10 years or so you have a new ruler because they keep killing each other lol or the possibility they might take each other out?
It has very little to do with the Sith way. The Galactic Empire failed for the same reason most dictatorships fail. The government is structured to maintain the power of the dictator at the expense of the state as a whole. The various components of government are pitted against each other to keep them from uniting against the dictator.
Thrawn preferred investing in a larger fleet to subjugate the galaxy instead of death stars but EP probably figured he had to continually increase fear or appearance of. More authority would cause logistical problems and risk of dissidents. A Death Star was supposed to be the ultimate weapon of destruction and power.
No dictator, no matter how powerful and ruthless, rules with impunity. That's the real reason why Palpatine's rule failed.
*Dictator sutupids
The pax roman for one ditactor
@@fsdf4311c I'm not sure what your point is.
@@DrayseSchneiderIf a nation has a wise leader and wants the best for his nation it becomes a superpower, but if the leader is selfish and idiotic a superpower becomes weak with an example being the Roman Empire or China
@@fsdf4311c Sounds like liberal "Great Person of History" nonsense. Further, any leader that is "great," and by that I mean wise and good, will not seek to make their nation a superpower but strong and self-reliant.
So Palpatine essentially recreated the culture of self sabotage that the Rule of 2 was specifically designed to put an end to.
It’s ironic
@@wonderquestorhe could save himself from death, but not his empire
The rule of 2 didn’t put an end to it, it just weaponized it. Which is why as soon as the rule of 2 led to power, Palpatine applied it to all levels of leadership. He was continuing this common theme; the rule of 2 couldn’t actually rule, only perpetuate itself
He did not know better. Empires are built on loyalty, and this was something completely alien to psychopath like him.
Plagueis, having been a banker himself, taught Sidious public relations and how to be a good politician, but it wasn’t enough
The Sith Empire formula on how to rule the galaxy was never worked upon as the Banite Sith Order spent over 900 years incognito
His rise to power was so sudden, so as his fall (to the death star reactor shaft)
I agree if the Empire was not so full of greed Palpatine would be able to rule over the entire galaxy for the next video could you do one on what world happen if Valkoroion return during the Empire
Empires are built on loyalty. Palpatine's was anti-empire in its core.
Valkorion during this era would be great ❤
I think Palpatine encourge this behavior is because of Darth Bane's headmaster Qordis he enjoy not just pesure but also power in people notice his prize crap. So I think a similar thing but encouraging this backstabbing among the ranks either in Galatic Empire or any of Sith Empires somehow the infighting some how feed the Dark Lord’s power in dark side if only subtle amounts.
Sith ways should only between Sidious and Vader or the even a limited amount the handful Dark Jedi serving the Empire but letting infest the normal people was dumb move.
@@thomasparque7834 Concept of loyalty was completely alien to Palpatine. He consider it as a weakness. Sith in their essence are parasites, not builders.
good point you made, id say actually its not about the backstabbing and power garnered without merit, but the backstabbing was fully internal, as any and all sneakyness and cunning was only useful to play on the inside, not against an ouside threat, overspecialization leads to stagnation
Since it took the rule of two to triumph they were doomed to rule over an empire, they could not even handle between themselves much less care about regular people. Selfdestruction is not a matter of if but when, surprisingly fast in this case.
Would think if he should regret anything about what he an the literal last Millennia of his predecessors built...
The HUGE fatal flaw was built something ASSUMING HE would last forever or at LEAST the Sith in Control would somehow...
INSTEAD OF building up something that COULD or WOULD last effectively, with or without him...
Besides the absurd level of infighting an corruption in the Empire WHEN Palpatine died it was a case of the rest of it going too an a showing of the ancient concept of cutting off the head of a powerful, intergalactic snake, an then the body died too. That was it, they basically won the war an it was just a matter of time at that point since ALL those comparable was all either MIA or ALSO already dead by then too ..
This ensured that the Empire would forever be weak and fragmented.
So did Palpatine actually regret making the imperial leadership act like Sith? I watched the whole video and I didn't hear you talk about Palpatine's feelings regarding this post-Endor.
Well, Palpatine did not survive Endor, unless you count in Disney crap where everything is possible 🤣😁
I AM THE FAILURE
If you replace Sidious with someone else (Revan, Traia, etc.) would the Empire had lasted longer?
Don't know both are very conflicted individuals. Maybe Ex'ar Kun?
Ofc Raven would be a great ruler he's a great strategist and understands a lot about politics while kinda harsh he greatly cared about the Republic transformed into the empire his rule would have last even longer if his student didn't betray him
Darth Vectivus would've been a way more reasonable ruler.
Revan would be a GREAT Emperor. His Sith Empire was far better organized.
Kreia/Traya... I love the old hag, but frankly, Kreia is a little to esoteric to rule the Galactic Empire directly. She would more likely place a puppet king, give some directions as to how she wants things to go and then focus on Force-aligned goals (i.e. converting Jedi, predicting the future, destroying the Force, etc.). Compare Kreia to the Bene Gesserit of Dune.
Darth Plagueis is a mixed bag. On one hand, he's clearly a very good banker, scientist and administrator. On the other, like Kreia he's way too focused on unlocking the mysteries of the Force.
Exar Kun... Let's be real, the guy was a major egomaniacal asshole. His Galactic Empire would be akin to the Chaos Cults of Warhammer 40k, a mix of Thousand Sons and Word Bearers, especially since he was trying to replicate the Old Sith Empire, which was a feudalist theocracy.
Conquering the world on horseback is easy; it is dismounting and governing that is hard - genghis khan
A house divided cannot stand.
Despite much of Star Wars universe was being inspired by Eastern philosophy, particularly the Jedi, the relevance of biblical knowledge to the Star Wars saga is profound and effective as ever.
I suppose this goes hand in hand with the "biggest flaw" with the rule of two, there was a plan to a certain point, a start, middle and end goal, but what comes after that goal is achieved is up to whoever sees the plan thru.
That's the best explanation I've heard for why Vader was choking out so many officers.
Marka Ragnos might have succeeded or had a longer reign than Sidious. Only thing that might have been overwhelming is the sheer size of the Empire vs his own
This is a fatal flaw in the writing. Any one person smart enough to seize control of the galaxy, with all of the fore knowledge of past failures would have long realized this.
The issue is that Palpatine was focused on his goal and made a lot of assumptions based on a Force Sensitive Enpire that wouldn't work with a Force Blind Empire. It created Unfiltered Chaos instead of Ordered Chaos. He SHOULD have worked with Thraen to create netter METHODS to keep his goal, but instead was a fool who kept making the same mistakes
Interesting insight that escaped me altogether.
Job well done.
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I think Leia summed it up pretty well when she observed that "The more you tighten your grip...the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
Human beings and, presumably, aliens, don't respond well blatant, obvious captivity. To be a successful Human (and alien) farmer the livestock can't know it's captive. Reorganizing the Republic, that wasn't free either, into an obvious top down authoritarian empire was never going to work long term. Eventually they always fail. Might be a 100 years or 1000 but they always do.
These comic book illustrators do too much. They make Palpatine look absolutely ridiculous any time they draw him with that insane detail
An empire toppled by its enemies can rise again, but one which crumbles from within-that's dead forever
What was one of the 7 lightsaber forms did General Grievous use Mostly and which ones did he use less?
Palpatine: "I was just too easy on everybody."
I wonder if the final order was any different
The "apprentice kills master" is incredibly stupid. You could easily have a situation where both Sith mortally wound each other or one accidentally kills both of them. It's also a horrible incentive system because the master has no reason to teach his pupil everything, lest he become too powerful. Also, an impatient apprentice could kill the master before he learned everything. It's also very hard to work with someone who might kill you at any time. It's much simpler to work together and create a larger group. The Sith are nothing but cartoon characters.
And, thus, the Sith fell time after time.
Ironically in theory it's a good system, in practice is shit, Masters don't always teach everything and Apprentices don't learn everything because both think they will be the hot shot
Well the Baneite Sith certainly were. Bane was a fool and yet he is worshipped in the fandom. Well the proper fandom. That business with Disney doesn't. . . doesn't count.
@@sypherthe297th2 to be fair bane barely appeared in Disney
@@Eric6761 The fewer legacy characters that appear in Disney's fanfic projects the better.
This is why the show Andor is so significant to the Star Wars cannon. It exposed the weakness of the empire’s core philosophy and thus its power. It also highlighted that in the face of fascism, the ability to pull back the veil is the greater strength of the powerless. The empire ate itself in its hubris. This is the true story of Star Wars and one that George Lucas tried to demonstrate.
The events of Rogue One as the team that committed to the suicide mission made sure the death star plans were handed to the rebel alliance.
The beginning of Palpatines End began during Rogue One.
So much like corporate America, too many Incompetents in high places.
That karma bites u in the butts 😅😅😅 what goes around surely comes around
"Your overconfidence is your weakness."
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I agree with the video and I also think that’s why the USA is falling apart because we have petty , envious politicians who will sabotage each other and run this country into the ground if they’re not elected as president themselves.
The rule of 2 was about conquest after that they needed to abandon it and shift. They needed a new sith order. But they never embraced this fact.
Really highlight’s how important loyalty is for any faction. Doesn’t matter how powerful or even brilliant your subordinates are if they’re too busy trying to kill each other for more power to focus on fighting actual enemy factions.
However, only loyalty might be a downfall, loyalty at exchange for competence and skill is asking for downfall
@@Eric6761 Except that’s not what’s happening. The lack of loyalty and affinity for over throwing each other is why the strong and brilliant are being expunged. The actual talent within is being killed off or replaced by opportunistic scum that have no idea or don’t care how they do their jobs just as long as they can get better pay or more power in the chain of command. The way the Empire was built doesn’t favor the brilliant or powerful, it favors those who’ll do whatever it takes to get to the top, even backstabbing the actual contributors of the Empire.
The fatal flaw... if it could be called that... is that if the strongest ruler is killed WITHOUT a newer, stronger person ready to take the place.... there's a power vacuum that could lead to compete collapse.
Which is exactly what Palpatine planned. If he died without a strong Sith to replace him... the entire system collapses. Leaving anarchy and Chaos. He really wanted to discover the secret to immortality. So that the strongest, himself, would never die and the Empire would have lasted forever
Palpatine lust for power really was his downfall 😂😂😂😂😂
my opinion is that Palpatine should have reversed the rule of two raising as many fledgling sith as he could in the empire's early days and then force them to clime into positions pf power, and eventually blocking off the ladder so only the best held power like Thrawn or those who earned\ were worthy of those positions remained. or make the force and\or extreme talent a much harder cut off for those trying to clime than what he had implemented just because a seat is open dose not mean you are worthy to sit in it.
Wonderful.
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That's why I would argue that a Galactic Empire ruled mainly by pre-Mustafar or AU-Unburned Darth Vader could have thrived. Mainly because Anakin wouldn't care about political intrigue and sycophants, and DEFINITELY wouldn't accept corruption. Pure militaristic meritocracy, no buying your rank.
Any Force-User order created by Anakin would demand strength and ruthlessness, but not necessarily infighting. Anakin's Sith Order would be full of people like Ahsoka, Malgus, Marr: action-takers who care about enforcing order and getting results, not mindless butchery and power-grabbing. And they would keep the Moffs and planetary governors in line via lightsaber. In fact, Anakin would probably implement Palpatine's idea of replacing Moffs and Imperial Personnel with Force Users MUCH sooner, leaving only competent people like Tarkin and Thrawn.
Ruling through combat ability and backstabbing is kind of like picking a businessman for a leader. Sure they're accomplished, but within a skill set that's different from rulership requires.
Palpatine was a sweet old man.
I really was curious about this. The Empire really screwed themselves
Galactic Empire was HUGE failure! Corruption thrived,backstabbing,gossips,moronic generals and officers. Rebellion was EXACT opposite as you said. May the Force be with you too😊
You know what they say, unity we stand divide we fall. If Palpatine makes a speech about unity and how vital it is, then the empire wouldn’t have these problems.
The Sith philosophy makes it impossible to build anything that matters. Given the assumption of the setting, it appears to work fine for conquering, but ruling and maintaining an empire require faith. Trust. Loyalty. The Sith's teachings are entirely antithetical to that.
The first error of Bane was the idea that killing others somehow makes you stronger. Your strength depend not on what you do with others but on what you do with yourself.
The first error of every "Sith Emperor" was the idea that this "seat of ultimate power over the galaxy" has something to offer to a Sith Lord. What can an entire galaxy worth of commoners offer to the one who has the Force itself at his beck and call? Vanity is weakness. This is not the Way of the Sith.
Palpatine never considered Vader a partner like Plagueis did with him.
his problem was him trying to emulate the older Sith lords
"AH AH AH AH AH" - Sidious
Why does Admiral Thrawn look like Data from Star Trek: TNG?
I'm not sure Palpatine even cared about that. He's too busy trying to get rid of the other politicians.
Libertarianism rarely works as a system of government
Bain the sith keep backstabbing each other and that why their empires always fail.
Sidious but it was so cool though.
I don't understand why Vader didn't turn on Palpatine right away? He tells Anakin the 'Tragedy of Darth Plagieus the Wise' and how he had learned to cheat death and bring back the people he loved. He insinuated that he's been taught this power and already has it on LOCK-DOWN!!! Anakin fully just says "i will do anything you ask, just save Padme. I can't live without her" at which point PALPATINE CHANGES HIS DAMN STORY! He goes from "Only I can save her" and switches it up to "Cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but I know if WE work together, we can discover the secret!!"
This is the point where Anakin should have been like all "WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!! Lets just hold on here one gash-darn-second!!! Are you telling me you don't already know how to save her? Because a few minutes ago you were STRAIGHT UP TELLING ME YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAVE PADME!!!! Are you now saying you don't already have this ability!?!? ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME!?!?!!!! I BETRAYED THE JEDI ORDER STRICTLY BASED ON YOUR PROMISE THAT YOU KNEW HOW TO CHEAT DEATH!!! You 100% claimed you knew how to do this!!! WHAT IN THE EVER-LASTING F ARE YOU SAYING RIGHT NOW!? Because if you don't already know how to save her, if you killed your master BEFORE he taught you this Darkside ability YOU AND I HAVE A SERIOUS F-ING PROBLEM RIGHT NOW SHEEV!!! Did you straight up lie to me!!??!! (Anakin's light saber ignites with bright blue light.)
He lost the galaxy the moment instead of force pushing vader into the lava he had the selfishness to call the troopers to put lord vader in a medical capsule &think he was a disposable weapon,a tool,Frankenstein,what a conceited albino wrinkle****.......I always wonder if palps gave a****if anakin&obi-wan died during the clone war or not?
I fully believe Vader was too kind in dealing with insubordinates.
A house divided against itself is biblical scripture
I just don't think Sidious CARED enough to fix the flaws of his empire.... All he cared about was achieving the goal of Establishing the Empire in the first place, and his only other goal was to secure the most powerful apprentice he could to replace him... He always suspected Vader's motivations were not where he desired them to be, and he jumped at the chance of corrupting Luke because of this. In the end, Sidious couldn't be bothered to devote effort into making the Empire more efficient, as he was more focused on his goals as a Sith than as Emperor
So very true.
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I think Vader gets a bad wrap here. He was probably only killing offers who were continuously failing to meet their KPIs, and even then only after multiple coaching conversations and a performance improvement plan. I'm sure that when it got to that point Vader wanted to simply terminate employment & part ways. However, after confirming with HR & Legal, Sidious made it clear to Vader that terminating their lives significantly reduced the risk of officers violating their NDAs.
these dynamics you are describing sound exactly like the same ones that play out in the Dictatorship dump i ran away from.
Yeah. That was definitely his Achilles heel
Now I understand why Vader got so
pi$$y with his flag officers.
the empire fell cuz that is what lucas wanted to happen
ITS A MOVIE
Nothing or anyone is perfect, including Palpatine. Deep to his core he was Psychotic, 100% incapable of true trust or true unity with his peers or subordinates, he ruled by fear not merelyby choice, but because he was incapable of trust and sharing knowledge and power with his most worthy. (Even Vader got scraps). So it was inevitable he would fatally try to run his Empire under the same circumstances, and just like Dictatorships in the real World, doomed to fail from within.
I don t say that the food isn t the problem, but this entire ticket system is just a darth mess. Getting your lunch in the death star is a sith nightmare
“Upper management”
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Fell due to relying on his power in the force according to legends material.
If palpatine allowed vader to rule the empire as he pleases then maybe all of the imperial high ranking officers would've acted like thrawn
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Corruption, backstabbing, group thinking, fear, bigotry... What could possibly go wrong w/ a society/leadership based on those?...
Thrawn hated the dark side of the Force and was somewhat mindful of the whole, he would have done his best build a more dark gray force wielder army simalier to the knights of zakuul. The nightsister were more of dark gray Jedi cult rather then a full on Sith Order which one the reason why Jedi mostly left them alone while easier for him to work with and reason. In legends Joruus C’baoth was a Dark Jedi but Thrawn after first tried, but failed, to guild him a way from that level of evil by reason if he did get the chance to clone him he would have done pulled it off but he might only stick with one of them for he might be bad idea to clone too many of the same Force user at one time
Palpatine should have stayed with ruling from the shadows. Tarkin was too arrogant, blowing up the rich. Sends the message that everyone is ducked. What he should have done was place Leia and co on a very public trail. Been as legally fair as beyond reasonable possible. Then with the evidence which Leia would have been foolish enough to admit too. Because let's face it she was a hot head. Condemn her and Bail ect to death. In fighting doesn't help with long term ruling. It's stupid. You want competent paper pushers. Competent workers. Competent cops, Captains, everything else. Grand Admiral Thrawn was the only Admiral worth the name.
Look at 0:40 for Darth Sidious. It is funny lol.
I am the Senate!...
I feel like this is parallel to our real world politics today.
Yeah I agree 100% with this analysis. The fatal flaw goes all the way back 1000+ years of Sith rules Master and Apprentice. There was no unity and team work , just backstabbing and the strongest survives. Can you imagine if this was implemented in today’s politics? lol That wouldn’t last long. Anyways the logic of the Siths ideals is flawed. I think the ancient Ja’Dai had the best concept on how to deal with the force mastering in balancing between the dark and light. They didn’t shun emotions and attachments like the Jedi and didn’t let the dark side consume them similarly to Count Dooku. Basically they mastered not being consumed by either side of the force and did what the will of the force ask. Qui Gon would have excelled in their time period as well.
I said it before and I’ll say it again , had sheev waited a little longer for plagues to teach him the method of immortality he would have succeeded . Just like plagues pride and ego destroyed him , sidious was also destroyed by his pride and ego .
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Emporer's accomplishments:
1) Killed the Jedi
2) Built a death star
3) Built an improved second death star
Realistically if he kept plageous at least alive long enough to find out his secrets & what more knowledge he knew even if they ruled together & with darth vader i dont think they would of never went down
Anakin is a massive issue himself to be honest, in the real world people learn from their mistakes and gain experience and knowledge in how to deal with subsequent problems when they arise. By killing officers for mistakes as regularly as he does all he's doing is slowly diminishing their pool of talent as they have to keep promoting less and less experienced personnel.
Looks like robot chicken pic. 😂😅
Reminds me of the leaders of the USSR.